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who live well, for example, in your native donetsk , this attitude changed a lot, that is, at the beginning somewhere at the end of february, the beginning of march, and the whole of march, they were euphoric, they were euphoric because they shouted that now you will feel what it is like to live in donetsk, in makiivka although the donetsk makiivka, if you look at mariupol, it is not even comparable to mariupol - it is grozny, what did the russians do in grozny, where did they turn mariupol into the donetsk makiivka ? compare it with mariupol, and these people were satisfied with the fact that it all started. and now when their husbands, i mean the husbands of these women who stayed there for the most part, are either already killed or sitting in apartments, they can even go out to get food, their wives just go to the store because people are being removed from this mobilization, even from men's minibuses, of course they have changed their minds and they don't understand a little bit
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why this is actually happening, do i understand you correctly that you are on e ot in certain areas of donetsk and the men of the luhansk regions who can be mobilized are now trying to hide from this mobilization. and what options do they have besides hiding at home? well, to be honest, there are almost none , because even leaving there is definitely subject to the same mobilization. if you leave officially through these roadblocks across the so-called borders with the russian federation there, i mean, and then try to leave ukraine, you simply won’t make it, so remove yourself here or hide, because if you have already gotten really into the ranks of these formations is simply to surrender as much as possible stanislavovych, you have already imagined how and how this war or such a great war could end, but somehow this moment is approaching when we can
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say that ukraine has won in us, in fact, now is a unique chance to finally deal with what is called the russian empire, it doesn't matter what you call it . the russian empire that existed before the soviet union. the russian empire during the soviet union or now . the russian empire is all the same. the empire is at least the consciousness of people who think of themselves as an empire and the most important thing for us is that they think of ukraine as a part of this empire that does not exist as a state, but we have to deal with this and actually destroy the russian army to such an extent that they do not even think of encroaching on the territory of ukraine. it is very difficult to say with crimea, because if the occupied territories of the south and east of the country are not legally considered by russia to be theirs, at least for the time being , they consider the territory of crimea to be theirs, and if we even theoretically imagine that they have liberated kherson region. we are advancing on the crimea. i am afraid that real nuclear
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weapons will already be used here, and here the question is whether we can even restore our territorial integrity within the borders of the 1991 year, but what we can do is cause maximum damage to the russian state . as such, not only at the front, but social, economic , ideological, moral - this is indisputable. i think that we have a unique opportunity. well, do you imagine for yourself the moment that you return to donetsk? no, i do not imagine it. even if we let's free me, you understand that going back to donetsk is not an empty place, those people with whom i lived next to and who lived in the same makiivka, for example, where did all my family from my father's line come from, or fought for this so -called the republic, the republic, or supported russia , that is, these people have not disappeared, i can't imagine how i will walk the same streets, cross paths with them in a store, look into each other's eyes, what will we
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say to each other after i was tortured after i spent time in a concentration camp 2 , 5 years and i after that, including how they had someone die at the front, but from that side, donetsk is for me well, except for the excursion, you know, the congress, but still ukraine insists that it will buy these territories anyway, so what are the newly occupied territories and so on crimea and donetsk luhansk. can you imagine for yourself. maybe you even have some advice . how should the ukrainian state solve this issue? how will it be ? very very far away for us, and in fact there is such a technical nuance here, for example, mr. podolyak seems to me to say absolutely correct things when he says that we do not need minsk-3, we need our territories, we will liberate everything that is occupied in the east
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and mr. president recently said that the victory will be to go to the borders that were before february 24, that is, to stop, for example, at the same lines of demarcation and not to go further, not to release makiyivka from khartsyzk to her, here the question is how our state still correlates these statements of both in fact officials and regarding coexistence with those people well, in fact, i think that some of them will first leave for russia, that is 100% at least the families of those who will remain alive from the so-called corps of the first and second army corps, because they will understand that they come under attack and their husbands and even their families, most likely. and those who will remain, well, most likely, you just have to bet on the future generation of these people. they didn't say what it was propaganda is all the same, it is a conscious choice, so i think that only for the new generation, given the
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difficult experience you had now, when you look at russia and how it behaves, you have the feeling that this country is weaker now than it was in 14- in the 15th year and beyond, this is from the perspective of russia itself. how do you assess it, because the fate of ukraine probably largely depends on it ? federation of including the economic losses inflicted by the west, but from an ideological point of view, i am afraid that it is the opposite, because it is obvious to me that russian fascism is stronger now, and in the 14th, 15th and other years until the 22nd, there is such an intensity as it is now i did not observe, for example, that is, now it’s just like this, you know, germany in the years 35-37, only
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instead of the swastika, they have these soviet colors , red and pioneers and so on. to wait for all this to come together a more or less adequate framework, your experience of living in occupied donetsk was later translated into a book, a collection of your bloggers, your experience of captivity was translated into a book, the bright path, a-a are you currently working on something, maybe it’s a book, maybe some kind of project hmm no, but in the artistic sensei no now i am including a publicist and i write to journalists with er after the 24th mostly for western publications because well in ukraine first of all there is someone to write to and secondly everything is clear and in the west there are many nuances that they do not understand and i translate my texts
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german is printed in switzerland and germany and austria, that is, artistic things, well, not yet. i don't like it yet, but as far as i understand, you are planning to hunt the war criminals of this war. well, i wouldn't say what exactly i'm planning, i'm planning to create a fund that will have a certain functionality in order to extract people from the territory of the russian federation, because what the state is proposing is a classic way, that is, to collect data, to systematize them, to start good cases, to transfer these materials to international courts, and as a result to receive sentences in absentia for me, for example, this is absolutely not acceptable. and i propose that for these people we will identify and assign a financial reward, as the united states of america does for terrorists, that is, they are just included. by the way , for cybercriminals, just now you can see on their state websites a reward of 10 million dollars for those people whom the states suspect of cybercrime by the way, the russians in
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relation to the united states should also do the same in relation to key war criminals who will be suspected of rapes and murders, i.e. ukraine should offer money to someone who will hand over to ukraine those involved in torture and murder, hand over these people by any means, and anyone with us, this is not actually a question, should not bother or pass on information that will directly lead to doctor well, for example, the brigade that stood in bucha, as far as everyone knows now, it is disbanded in sections in the donetsk region, that is, people if an amount is assigned for a specific person and the people who serve next to it are the same russians. they low-moral people, as they turn out, they can simply pass on information that that person will be in the field tomorrow, conditionally speaking, for example, and we can work either as special operations forces of the main intelligence department, or simply the area is covered here, this is like one of the million options
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that can be. that is, you believe that this way will be more effective than what is currently doing the most effective, the first way will not be effective at all, we will only have absentee convictions, these people will not be answerable to the law, because they all will be in saratov, khabarovsk, moscow, and so on , and in order to extract them well, at least we should at least offer a tribunal for this, of course, you don’t believe its effectiveness. before the international tribunal for cancer crimes in afghanistan in syria in libya, where are these people, well, these are units for the entire history of such a complex topic , that is, the same will happen with the russian federation, now everyone is shouting butch and rape and murder in six months, no one will care about this. and what will happen to putin? what do you think, will he face retribution before the court or in some other form
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? this is a country where everything is possible, just like in ukraine, in that sense, in this sense, we are going down, that's why i hmm admits that he may have the same fate as mussolini once, but you yourself say that russia is now a fascist state like this people can change in some other way, fascism also contributed there, and in the end it hung somewhere on a lantern for years. history shows us when we believe in the victory of ukraine
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. dnieper and this is also the cradle of the cossack family of ukraine, which never knelt before anyone. zaporizhia cossacks for centuries defended ukrainian lands from invaders during the liberation war, the zaporizhian army fought independence for the whole country in the second world war, the city withstood the soviet undermining of the dnieper and the german occupation, and now zaporizhzhia is full of the cossack spirit, as always, stands steadfastly in defense of ukraine. zaporizhzhia is
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unconquered. warriors of the three elements who passed the hellish trial to win the proud right of the assault shore ready to serve to fight and win unbreakable marines to the latter were held in crimea during the seizure of the peninsula by russian troops, it was they who gave a powerful blow to the occupier in eastern ukraine in 2014 and continue to do so in 2022, together with the azov and border guards, the 36th separate brigade of marines named after rear admiral mykhailo bilinskyi more than 10 weeks of heroic defense of mariupol, they did not leave their positions. we have always remained faithful. the last word of the ukrainian marines in this war is yet to come. for the people of mozkov, the name k2 has become a nightmare, especially the commander scares them
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of the division kyrylo veres you believe in victory i know of the second option kyrylo has been at the front since the 14th year and during this time he has been awarded all possible state awards and honors after each one he will contribute a weighted flight we all succeeded glory to the heroes glory to ukraine watch the charity marathon - this in ukraine, on may 29 at 21:00, our national marathon continues on the public air, we talk about how ukrainians are going through a terrible war that has been going on for more than three months, three men from her family went to the front, her father, brother, her husband, a woman now she is raising her daughter in safety, she hopes that her relatives will soon return with victory, a story from
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the correspondents of the social media from the dnipro. i respect them very much. now there are three of them to worry about, it was my biggest nightmare, my war has begun, well, for me, i won’t say that in the 14th year in the 15th, probably because in the 14th i was still trying to understand and understand what was happening she was very, very small, she was just born. but in the 15th year, when my brother went to the army. well, he served as a shirt, but then he decided to sign a contract, somehow then the war began for me that i was the only one who wanted zelena from call to call from him because the connection was not very good, he was there sometimes for two days, he did not get in touch there for three days, and when finally a text message or a
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call from an unknown number comes and you just freeze and you look at this phone and don't know it, now it's just calling of or about someone's number they ring and all the minutes until you pick up seconds until you pick up the receiver and finally you hear his voice i don't know it seems like eternity was just rushing by i went to the local volunteers in our town and helped when she was little she also wove nets they gave all kinds of goodies to the boys at the front well actually i met a man there, but i knew that we were from the same city, but he is now in the ato and is fighting in one of russia. when i brought the pies, the volunteers were going to lead, he was sitting there and there was such a thing . and he can be like that. well, that’s all. then he came to my work once. he came in a uniform with flowers and everything. it was as if he captured my heart. he went to the marines. we
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agreed on one contract that i was waiting for him. and i was waiting for three contracts and that and in on the 18th, he quit if he got a job and worked as a technician. well, in principle, we had slightly different plans, but on february 24, everything changed. it took three days to get to lviv. it was very difficult, seven people in a car, a cat, then we arrived and settled a little longer, the husband stayed here if i'm sure everything we have a place to live that we will have something to live on and went to the military commissariat and we signed because we were planning a wedding for the month of august in general, but it didn't turn out as expected, we left with a fairly minimal amount of things, two backpacks, one, i have two, i have uh two daughters each have two backpacks, which , first of all, of course, is a laptop so that you can work there, some clothes are minimal, of course
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, in february, i did not think that something light should be taken there , in some kind of thin warm pants, to take with me, but at the last moment i stuffed these two embroidered this and we have one more, the main thing is that they all come back to me alive, whole and healthy. and where will they be there, i say that i am doing this, and they raise a kiss to me, send it to me, or when i kiss the phone , how do i kiss them? i think that we have already won, but they are still this they don't know russia, i'm watching this story. i understand that almost every ukrainian and every ukrainian woman can tell the same story, and these stories are worth telling the whole world about, so if you have anything else to tell us, tell us about it and contact the correspondents of the public we will definitely tell the whole world about what is happening in our country, the minimum plan for
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ukraine in this war is to restore sovereignty over all occupied territories, including crimea, this is the opinion of the head of the mechlis of the crimean tatar people, refat chubarov, in an interview with the public, he emphasized the crimeans who participate in this war is being fought on the side of ukraine in particular due to the deoccupation of the peninsula, are many crimean tatars currently fighting on the side of russia, and can the kremlin use nuclear weapons in response to ukraine's attempt to liberate crimea our colleague olena rymovska refataga asked about this and not only rifat chubarov. i congratulate you on the social media. thank you for your time. i also congratulate you on february 24, when the full-scale invasion of russia into ukraine began. you were surprised by what you saw. we corresponded since the evening, we had a group. i asked everyone to lie down to rest but before morning everyone woke up and watched what would happen with
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us, such a large group was created in the middle of the forest , that is, i asked people to rest from the evening and in the morning to wake up and were ready, but i do not believe that it will begin, that is, i gave some practical advice , but i myself did not believe that the bombing would begin for the third month already. took place already partially in the 14th year, now what are these emotions, what is happening where in february march 2014, it is essentially what is happening now. that is, it was russian troops. they invaded crimea, they occupied a key position, but this is completely different. excellent here immediately began with missile attacks and bombings
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throughout the territory of ukraine, i.e. immediately followed by actions aimed at the death of thousands of people, and here, unlike the events in crimea in 2017, the ukrainian armed forces or the armed forces of ukraine immediately began to fight back. this was a key difference from what happened in 2014 year in crimea, that is, you also feel pride, probably because ukraine is fighting back, you know, and because there is such a monolithic nature of ukrainian society, this is the case when i will tell the authorities and the authorities, and most importantly, they are ready professionally to their difficult, very difficult work to protect ukraine, the
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armed forces of ukraine. in order to bring some good for us, you say that you did not believe that there would be a full-scale invasion. and why, how did russia manage to surprise you after so many years of suffering and crimeans and crimean tatars, it seemed to me that there was some kind of border, and it was the crossing of what we used to call red lines, that is, i assumed that putin, thanks to his own salvation, would not go to cross these
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borders, but he carried away and he with this, he not only began to commit crimes against humanity, but he cut himself off from any hypothetical possibility to sit down at the negotiating table with someone, and you asked me what do i feel at the beginning of the program? that's when i hear what someone will say. let's go after all, we will sit down with putin in order to save their face. i don't have time for great indignation anymore. there is no need and it is not possible to sit down with anyone, because that is why he transgressed everything called humanity, he is an international criminal and a classic murderer, what do you say? that the instinct of self-preservation did not work in him if he does not care about what will happen to him next, how far can he go in your opinion, i think that this instinct does not sleep, but
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that he was sure that he would succeed in all this and the world to him forgive but again we return to of the armed forces of ukraine to the monolithic nature of ukrainian society, his plans have failed and now he no longer has any opportunities to retreat and from this he has certain despair and i understand that everyone should pay attention to his psychological state because this despair can be uh, the reason for using it and possibly nuclear weapons, they said that you had such a certain group of people, members of the mejlis. uh you probably have even less opportunities now than you had before february 24, yes. for example, what
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concerns the release of political prisoners. it seems to me that this process in general has now been put on a very long pause, because nothing has changed in the redeemed crimea after february 24, but repressions , persecutions, persecutions of crimean tatars, ethnic ukrainians. they continue even against the background of such a large -scale or full-format war. in april, iryna danylovych, a journalistic blogger, was arrested for about 11 days. no one knew where she was, although she was in the basement of the fsb
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. russian propaganda, since crimea is the territory from where large er russian army columns advanced and they went to kherson melitopol and now the bodies of beaten russian soldiers are being taken there , i.e. people who live in crimea. they may be more er aware because they see some results the consequences of this war and in order to control the crimean society there is very crazy such information propaganda and in general, according to your observations and according to your data, how do crimea perceive this great war eh or do they feel in danger because of russia or through ukraine eh what feelings and what are the expectations, well, different moods, because
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the crimean society is made up of very different components . let's remember that in crimea there was always some part who were not only supporters or sympathizers of russia, but they wanted crimea to be part of the russian federation, such people are not the majority well, but somewhere in 2014 there were about one third of them. and although these people have been in the occupation for 8 years, a large part of them were disappointed in what happened in crimea with the occupation, but at the same time, there are a lot of people in crimea who were resettled or they themselves settled in crimea during the years of occupation, according to various data, from 600,000 to one million, serious experts insist that 1 million colonists are in large part family members of representatives of punitive bodies of the fsb, the
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prosecutor's office, and so on and so forth here after 24 february, the more noticeable was the repulse of the armed forces of ukraine against the russian troops, and especially when the russian troops began to retreat from kyiv and other regions of ukraine, the tendency to leave crimea was very noticeable. expectations are noticeable, some believe that ukraine belongs to its sovereignty - these are the crimean tatars, of course, these are ethnic ukrainians, this is a significant part of those who lived there until 2014, you say that the bodies of the dead are brought to crimea of the russian military, but in my opinion, the tragedy of the crimeans is very great because after the 14th year, the crimeans were forced to serve in the ranks of the
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russian armed forces. we know that the crimeans are in the ranks of the russian armed forces fighting on the mainland of ukraine . tatars, literally from the first days of this full-scale war, every evening on the atr tv channel, we are calling on people, and not only except for satar, but everyone who lives in the crimea, to avoid conscription into the russian army under any conditions, if this is not possible, then for now crimea is a third of the country, it has also become very difficult and difficult, but people are leaving and they do not contact us later. perhaps we can not say that there are hundreds of them, but tens of people who have contacted us may be more and they do not contact us. we are helping them to contact ukrainian diplomatic missions abroad so that they receive
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ukrainian documents and the courts return to ukraine. but there are those who could not avoid the draft , including crimean tatars, and there are the question is about nationality, because this is a forced recruitment into the russian army of allegedly russian citizens, because they consider these young people and all those who live in crimea to be their citizens, they have russian passports, they have them because it was a forced passportization, and you know and your viewers know that if they did not receive russian passports , they would not have been able to keep them in crimea because they were displaced among the dead and the military who fought on the side of russia are crimean tatars, you already know about such cases about three burials that took place in crimea and with the participation of representatives of the russian army, and we believe that these are military personnel

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