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if now eh yes now everything can be eh putin can be there and launch rockets and so on and so on we believe that this is our front. tell me, madam, how did you learn? prime minister johnson is talking about a new international alliance and suggests that in this alliance would be great britain, ukraine, the baltic states, poland. do you believe in the prospect of such an alliance ? i don't know. do we need other alliances somehow? с красивать он языпать такие алянцы бытае алянцы пожелению как бы
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заказа алиансы от от гог. that's a decent man who has justified himself. the alliance in which you see, and even in finland and sweden, is joining, too, i could have thought, four months ago, no one would have believed that this could happen . eh he is alive and he is very needed yes how is the european union in the european union ? great britain, of course, in connection with the breakup, she is also looking for her place for now and it is good that she behaves like that and we are happy about it because they said that they are leaving alliance and the european union, but they are not leaving europe, and now is the time for them to
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show that they have not left europe, these are from the european continent. create some official new alliances instead of those that are now works with the crisis yes, not so probably there with disputes hey and so on, but no, it’s still necessary. i think it ’s necessary to strengthen the alliances that are now. of the nato parliamentary assembly and the ministry of defense of the republic of lithuania was with us and we are answering your questions, which we have, by the way, now we will see what we already have , you can make time for the thing if you are very willing
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to ask something, we have a great desire to answer something, so you can still have time. we still have at least half an hour to answer questions, if they arise, that's what we're here for . by the way, there's still no news, my dear, you know question this is so strange, i wonder all the time. well, maybe there is one thing, at least one thing to start the question . we already have a lot of questions. well, let's go well, let's start, how do you comment on orban's latest statements , some injera, please, when did you want? what did i want? i would like both the first and the second did not surprise me, orba did not surprise me because he always says so, and kissing has simply remained in the past, somewhere around 70 there is the second in the third year, he remained
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there and sat there until the 73rd year, when he received the nobel prize for the so-called vietnamese appeasement, but we know that now that vietnam remained a socialist country for many decades, it was the efforts of mr. kissinger well, in short, he is like that in general, he always advocated how is it how would he be here he is very similar to putin here how was yesterday for putin how was yesterday this is an example here was a big country the soviet union was nato we opposed we were the same size we were there some there we we could conquer the neighboring territories. everything is fine with us, we could enter into, by the way, into magyar, before magyar, it was easy to enter czechoslovakia, afghanistan, and so on in 1956. i am not talking about african angola, mozambique,
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and ethiopia, cubans were cubans but would uh but the chiefs were russian officers. and yes, the soviets could have been belarusian and maybe even lithuanian, i don’t connect that either. no, it wasn’t the people who were trusted with such things. well, that is, we trust the kremlin’s ukrainian belarusians , whether they were western or not, it doesn’t matter. let's not do it drowning the miner of the military party of western ukraine appeared in the 70s, only in the 20th century, before a certain one, it was to someone , it was not at all this topic of our work, and by the way, i want to say that there is already news from feofania, so tell us as our blessed metropolitan announced about the hierarchal council of the ukrainian orthodox church after this meeting, it will be held today, after the emergency meeting of the holy synod, the probable start of the council at 5 p.m., that is,
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there was a meeting, he was studying. there is no agenda. as i understand this decision, it is not written there that we will decide to separate from russia, but from the foreign newspaper that can decide in the city, the words are the same let's continue our work, let's finish it, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no engineer, nothing like that, i did n’t open my eyes, and no, orban didn’t open his eyes either. by the way , i can’t say anything, you know. i absolutely understand those moves in the americans who want to leave everything as it was such a variant of munich in the 1930s, which was transferred there in the 8th year to the variant i don’t know minsk 22 or half 14-15 years shorter, so it’s more of a mistake for which politicians there are some really outstanding
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politicians because they don’t believe that someone and thinks as rationally as they do casein, so if i were in putin's place, i would have already agreed on something. well, then we need to give putin the opportunity to agree on something to save face, but putin does not want to agree on anything, what is the problem? i hear all the time that someone wants come to an agreement with putin, who has already said that we need to save face, macron says, president zelensky says, if they leave our territories, we will start to negotiate with them, so this gives the impression that putin is sleeping and watching, but they can see what will happen to him. what to agree. everyone says it, let's think about how you will save or not save the material. now he also offers his own position. just talk to putin and realized that putin does not want to agree on anything, which means that putin was told harshly about problems with food, lift the sanctions. goodbye , that is, no no desire this must be understood and there will be no, i keep saying that let's not make mistakes, no peace, no agreements,
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i will not let go, they say he will exhaust himself, this one will start negotiating, he will exhaust himself, he will simply withdraw the troops and something will be told there, there will not be an agreement. right here in ukraine, why can you say, because for ukraine it does not exist, you cannot agree on what does not exist for putin, for putin, putin cannot agree on this, if he fought from poland, he would negotiate from finland, yes we are taking such territory from you to ensure our security, as it is stalin's top hat, pray for the children, you can continue to live there if you give in to us, but there is no such thing here, because this is putin's russia, from putin's point of view, we do not know where it ends for him, there it ended the russian language is there. well, we shouldn’t. and it’s possible on the polish border, just where the soviet union ended, and until you understand where he can go , he won’t do anything at all, when he understands, he’ll just stop, but but, vitaly. i also added the following for skeptics, listen to us we already
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agreed in the 14th year we already agreed the whole world came to negotiate and mrs. merkel negotiated in minsk and the ukrainian president negotiated and the chancellor and the french president negotiated everyone agreed everyone decided let's not eight years of fighting have passed and that you will once again agree to wait for a certain number of years and said that when a situation arises that there will be another invasion of ukraine no, well, that means it is also an absolutely real consideration, but you could argue with them if the russians wanted to negotiate, i told you well, no, i can, i have to. maybe i don’t have to. we’re going to go into the logic of the cyst. i’m already starting to argue with you, mykola. it’s still true to argue or agree, but still. well, that’s how they were in the dock. now they stayed in the agreed english the queen just marry her. well, she doesn’t know about it somewhere, well, that is, putin will not win any. well, understand it in the end, well, it’s time to understand it, and well, let’s take the next question, if the
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future is for russian-speaking poets, writers in ukraine, who are ukrainians, it’s up to russian-speaking i have such acquaintances, and i have always said in conversations with them well, you are unlucky, you just got to the moment when this maybe, but it is unlikely now, the next at least 10 years, or even more, it will be extremely difficult not only it will be difficult for russian-speaking poets in ukraine and everywhere for the russian language. that is, i would not say. i would say that it will be difficult. this is where i think that people who understand. i think that people who write in russian, let's say for the russian diaspora in germany or israel that's how they will write for their readers, because these people may not equate it with russia, but let's look at russia, the russian language in ukraine, will people speak it, of course, they
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won't immediately start speaking ukrainian or will they perceive the russian-speaking culture here? i doubt it, this is the problem that even these people who want to continue speaking russian are distancing themselves from the russian cultural world, and again, this is a question that we have not always had with russian-speaking authors here in ukraine, but i always say that i say it deliberately, i work in russian , yes, it’s obvious, but i never address people in ukraine, i say it, i have an audience in germany, there in israel, in kazakhstan, yes, in russia, it’s small. well, it doesn’t matter. well, it’s kind of well, there are people there, okay, fine, but i don’t appeal to her , speaking conventionally, when i write, i understand that i will hardly be understood there, but for me, the russian language is a tool for communication with these people , because we simply speak it with them we have a common language, and i think that we are a person who reads me in russian in israel, he most likely also reads her big press, a person who reads me is a kazakh from
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kazakhstan, he is a kazakh for all this, he reads kazakh-language publications, that is, i am just a part for him some picture of the world is different and i am it's just that i take a strong part in this, so to speak, as a publicist, but i don't pretend to be a russian publicist, what's the problem? i know that i ca n't be a part of this world because this world of russian culture is not mine and it is developing in russia. well i have russian-speaking foreigners there, canadians, dutchmen. and when they call me, i go to lviv and pick up the phone, and they, we have a common language, russian, they once studied at some universities there, with the aim of working with the soviet i am ashamed of the union. i tell them that listen , the moment will come and it will come quite quickly . please, even though you are passively learning the ukrainian language, i am with you in russian. i cannot speak to me
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in the middle of ukrainian-speaking lviv, knowing that commands are given somewhere in russian and bombs fall on command in russian to ukrainians maybe to russian-speakers maybe to ukrainian-speakers i 'm sick i'm sick i'm not i don't feel comfortable and that's why i don't know how to speak russian in these conditions i'll repeat myself again when orders are given in this language to shell kharkiv, donetsk, kyiv-lviv, odesa, and so on and the like, it is only about this that russian culture, that is, russian-speaking culture , can exist at all in the ukrainian cultural and at this stage, i do not really believe in this perspective. to be honest, but i never believe in them. i always thought that russian writers. he works for the russian audience on this dialogue. yes, it is different in the world. oh, well, look, but
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how many russian-speaking writers did the ukrainian land gave it but where did they go after that ? bulgakov came to moscow, he came to moscow, gogol, bulgur, in any case, but there is this audience. well, you can’t do anything about it, you can calm yourself even if you write russian poetics there in kyiv, we have a building there famous writers there leonid vyslavsky mykola ushakov but they were primarily poets who were read in russia, not in ukraine, not brought up, just lived in kyiv, well, a person can live in kyiv, brodsky lived in the united states, but his audience all the same in the russian-speaking territory of russian matches. well, she was in russia. russia is a country in russian, when i hear all the conversations, we will not give the russian language to the russians, well, this is something, this is madness, i will tell you honestly, and you cannot give a russian-speaker to the russians, it is their language, not yours. it is only yours. because they, they, the russians, tried to russify you, and the language is theirs, you can not take away from them what belongs to them, just
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like they cannot take away the ukrainian language from you, this cut-throat, you speak their language but it is theirs just as the irish cannot take away the english language from the english and the great irish writers are there, eh or joyce. they still mostly have their audience in the english-speaking world, just glam english is global well, it is global because it is outstanding and science in this language culture, education, the beatles, the nuclear bomb, and so on, and that's why they say this, by the way , it would be a good conversation. in a broader sense, how do colonial and metropolitan languages ​​develop after the metropolis? american writers, but they write uhu well, they write about the american world, as close as possible to americans, yes, yes, but ukrainians, that’s what we
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speak. designed for russians for ukrainians, it’s true, but when ukraine reads dead souls well, it’s from ukraine and from nothing. that is, this work is absolutely understood by russians of everyone who lives in russia or revizor well, if you live in in russia, you just live there all the time, you are on your own. you see the inspector every day, every day, he increased it. you live among them all the time. you are interested . but if you come to ukraine, this was not the case. well, what is the problem ? language. and i don't know the impossibility. well, since childhood, i've been unable to express in russian the inner atmosphere of our life here, even if a ukrainian-speaking person meets with non-ukrainian speakers. i'm sorry, she encounters this barrier with a problem not express this ukrainian life in this condition, and
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then she can express the community if she writes there yes yes we have people who write in hungarian greek there, well, they write it like the world of mariupol, the world of transcarpathia, jewish literature you will find brilliant at the classical level o- described this world of jewish towns, but nothing more than that, because that jewish literature is like non-people and the state, it has already begun to develop on the basis of the jewish people in israel, well, that’s normal, there is nothing like that. well, if you have i don’t have a head like putin’s, it’s definitely normal, but when the language of russia ends where the russian language is, that is, on brighton beach, where the jews speak mainly russian , there is less safe construction and which russian language they speak. although there are different people, that’s the question to the axes of kostyantyn bagnenka and by the way, not only from him. do you think humanitarian corridors for leaving kherson are possible? i am lying down
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sick with oncology. maybe one more question yuliya bagnenka, i am in kherson, i can’t leave, it’s probably my wife konstantina how do you think someone’s thinking russians put a ban on exit, well, i have an answer, i think that the russians, in principle, the russian leadership, they don’t think about you khersonites in the same way as and about the residents of novosibirsk , tomsk, omsk, and so on, this is not a factor of people 's lives for putin, but from above. then the signal goes through and who dies, who suffers from hunger. i asked this question that you ask us in the first weeks of the war, sitting here with various people, with vitaly and behind angelika, to the people who live in kherson or kharkiv, when there was a siege, what was
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the goal? i have never heard an answer, what is the purpose of making you feel bad, what is the purpose of such a purpose, so that all residents of ukraine feel that it is an irrational purpose, it is obvious that it is very easy to open the corridors from kherson and everywhere, but they do not open, moreover, the ukrainians say let's open, he says let's open red says let's open everyone says let's open it's easy for this you don't need anything but they didn't do it but they do that you exist for them as a factor of life but you have to insist on it very expensive you wrote about it what we said about it in e in media spaces, people from kherson write to me, by the way, they tell me how hard it is to live there. by the way, i can think that i will definitely read this comment in one of the broadcasts. i already read it once, uh, there are huge problems of people there, i understand no need to think that they live there safely, no, and our dear
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viewers, they are written as cry of the soul, and you can only cooperate with them, sympathize, but you mean, i am addressing everyone, this is expected of everyone who is under the occupation of russia, they will not create conditions for life, they easily create conditions for death, i'm sorry for saying that well, not every person can leave to see us, dear, i understand, but he has real problems with this, let's determine how well, we need to think about how we need to contact international organizations, the red cross, what have people like... dear mr. kostyantyn the opportunity to leave and it's all done in a second , that's right, he'll take what he brings, put it away, take it out, let 's move on."
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to transfer, for example, the east to donbass, not to congratulate you with something. no, it’s just that they were really unable to attack in different directions
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, that’s true, and they turned out to be able to focus on one direction, you saw. we started from this today to help you, anna because we started by checking whether there really is such a critical situation in the east, everyone assures us that it continues like this and yes, there are problems, but we are stable we are already hearing western weapons , one of our prime ministers said, "we need more weapons. my problems in donbas are that we need more weapons, and we can see that, but as always , a month will pass and we will be in tension, and then there will be a new one." part of the sinusoid and we will smile again and then again and then it will start again like this and the process is complicated and this must be understood and people take to asking, they are right to ask why don't they shoot down more missiles because there is no iron
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dome in ukraine and there won't be because it is too expensive to things at once, two questions about even more, why does hungary behave differently from the czech republic and slovakia, even though all these countries were occupied by the ussr , the hungarians have imperial ambitions, mr. kostiantyn asks, how quickly do you think hungarians can get rid of their enmity for a great hungary which is widely used by mr. orbán, uh, i think there was another question about hungary, you see , people are concerned about positions well, it’s clear why with a foot , because hungary really blocks uh, with oil velvet, it’s not just statements, it’s not statements, it’s actions well, you also have to be calm about this, we are me, i know. if she didn’t block me, i would be surprised that something has changed in hungary. they really do have a resident there. in 18 or 2016, they signed three announcements that we are a third of their territory . we cut off all sides, but not only ukraine, and they really want a bucket. and why do you
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say when it will change something, because our orba is being re-elected, but he was just re-elected a month and a half ago, so he is a popular person, his ideas are popular for hungarians and they give support i want to say an important thing to the people who radiate these ideas. i believe that the position of the body in relation to oil embargo and in general to relations with russia has nothing to do with resentment towards the great hungary because there have always been people in hungary who had resentment against the great hungary - it is great part of the hungarian political tradition of culture and that hungary is responsible for all hungarians in all countries, but this definitely does not necessarily include a good attitude towards the kremlin about admiral khortyts, too, the sentiment behind the great he didn't like hungary, he didn't like russia, he didn't like hungary, he didn't like ugu , the person doesn't get along, orban is a corrupt politician, a populist who doesn't want to really
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develop the economy, who wants to control the media, and he needs cheap russian gas , cheap russian gas, and a big hungary for this these are things of the same order, but in this matter, but even i now dare to use such very arbitrary words, but keep in mind that even you were not corrupt, just think about yourself, you come to the store. and this is also a part of corruption and all the stores sell sausage and the one next door and this one is twice as cheap and there is such a flattering uncle and he says buy a sausage for a fight, the uncle is called putin and he says buy my sausage think about yourself or please not through ukraine which sausage to buy like that, just about yourself right 94 -th year we will want gas. here's orban and everything here . nobody will be surprised by anything. that's why it's a completely natural phenomenon
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, and hungarian people are sitting and saying. and how much will i pay tomorrow to heat my home, and gas for this one light but for another for 5.10 twice as expensive. no, i don’t want to. i’m from a hunchback, but i also love putin, and putin is already a sadist. and i don’t like the fact that people die there, by the way, hungarians also go to the front, and we are in the eastern ukrainian front. there are people from e regions there e transcarpathia and they are fighting there and we even saw these people in our programs that's why our reader from zhovkva writes to us what is the main reason, the viewer, in your opinion , the closing of espresso tv channels, the fifth and direct in the t2 network, do you not think that with the help of nationwide the government is doing a news marathon in the country of zombies well, first of all, i think that after the war it will still not be possible to do it again, and secondly, i think that it is a serious mistake in general what happened with the disconnection of the channels, because as a result, we have such panicked questions from people
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because there are the idea that people should be talked to like small children. and this is a marathon, ivan, time is a marathon , and we talk all the time about us. our government understands what is happening. we are moving forward to victory. there are certainly moments of victory . must speak seriously to maintaining the mood and maintaining the support of the country's leadership in such a situation is not easy, it is also the task of the media to maintain the state. if you want stability. and if you try to replace the maintenance of state stability with propaganda, then as a result , you have serious problems. what will the result be? this is what i supported from the first week, well, mentally i did not discuss the marathon, maybe it was useful then, but what kind of day is this distrust of ukrainian journalism we we all have to line up at one
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i don't think so. i think that we are all adults. i don't think that it is possible to convince ukrainians of anything. they have always mistrusted the authorities, and have and will continue to mistrust information, so think that we are such that we can put on the clothes of the kremlin. really some kind of strange people who believe everything that is said on television. yes, i want to tell you. no, you did not have them in the fourth year, in the 14th year, they never happened . broadcasting during war, but it is obvious that this idea meant respect for all television broadcasters who wanted to participate in it. and i, too, it was very important that all channels were incorporated without exception, or rather with the exception of those that showed themselves beautifully in the last eight years, telling that the presenters are now sitting of the marathon too, masha, my colleagues talk about it, we don't focus on it, our colleagues talk about it
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and i say it completely logically, it's true, well, i laughed a lot when the policemen were given to all ukrainian journalists, i thought so, wow, how interesting, i'm honest i don't think it was a number of this award. what kind of people would i be able to receive this award with ? tens of lord yes aleksandrov and so on and so on, what a beautiful photographer he is now who died during hostilities. here he is definitely worthy of the police tsar's award because he is a talented person who gave his life for the honor of this profession, but among our ukrainian journalists there are the roofs are different, and that's why i think that somehow i will survive without this award. and now we're going to finish on radio svoboda. so we'll definitely
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answer all the other questions that will be. already next week, next friday, we want to thank you on behalf of september thank you mykola veresen thank portnikov thank portnikov on behalf of me thank you greetings thank you thank you and i thank everyone who asked us these questions especially my warm words to those who watch us in kherson on other territories, frankly speaking we perfectly understand how difficult it is for you to hold on everything will be fine everything will be fine congratulations this is freedom, my name is vlasta lazur, we speak mona, on the pages of radio svoboda on facebook and on youtube, as well as on the air of the espresso tv channel, previously 10 people died and another 35 were injured in dnipropetrovsk region, this happened as a result of a russian missile hitting kaza

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