let's talk further with us on the phone oleksandr zhuravlyov, the mayor of liman, my greetings to you. good evening, please explain. liman is currently occupied, there is no such information lined up, but some territories are occupied, the tricolor of war, the video was for this, you know , the territory is still controlled by the ukrainians the military , therefore, for this information, the press services of the military will give you better information. and where are you located ? you are not in the estuary, so you cannot be there. you can be correct in the territory. and how are the people there? there are already some civilians left

today. yes, there are about 7-7.5 thousand civilians left in the city. they are in warehouses. they find a place, go out and talk and what they say is happening in the city, they really go after that breadwinner to fight, they want to evacuate, but at the moment there is no such possibility, there is absolutely no way to leave properly and deliver humanitarian aid there aid can also be delivered there thanks to the national police to the shinaye services, when evacuating people, they entered the area in empty buses with

cargo assistance, and returned paid ones. well, what do you think, how can the situation develop further? there is hope that liman will be released , they will fight back, yes, everyone has this hope, but the devil. we hope that things will change from the city itself. from the estuary, yes. well, when they destroyed my house, then i left. and this was when it was. it was sometime at the end of april. they didn’t return to yuzhny. at first, it was successful and was involved in the evacuation of the population, the

delivery of humanitarian aid, food, which to wash. you said that the city remains close 7,000 people, you have an idea of ​​the conditions in which they are there, and you know when i was engaged in evacuation. i literally last left the city, well, since sunday, 5 days ago. i saw exactly what they were like. when not there is no light, there is no water, when you have food, they cook food on the stove, it is very difficult to look at it, but at the same time, you claim that there is no information, not the head of the police, not from the security service of ukraine, so i don’t understand, i know that unfortunately the territory is occupied, thank

you for your comment. in connection with the head of the city of liman in the united states of america there is a fear that ukraine may strike on russian territory using the latest weapons received from the allies, the reuters agency reports this with reference to the american military and diplomats because the united states and its allies are providing ukraine with advanced modern weapons. washington held talks with kyiv about the danger of escalation if kyiv strikes on russian territory, according to reuters, such discussions, journalists report, are behind the scenes and are not publicly advertised. at the same time, according to reuters, the united states has not yet they want to impose clear geographical restrictions on the use of their weapons by the ukrainian military well, meanwhile, cnn, with reference to its own sources, reports that in the administration of joe biden are planning to provide ukraine with a new batch of weapons, in particular, modern rocket launcher systems, that's

what mykhailo podolyak was talking about recently on our broadcast, and thanks to them, experts say that a turning point in the war may come, these systems are capable of launching missiles hundreds of kilometers further than any other analogues available in ukraine and they are needed in particular for the unblocking of the black sea, contact us taras zoftenko, an expert on national security issues, candidate of political sciences, we congratulate you. i will only add that douglas lud ex the us ambassador to nato and a retired lieutenant general of the army, he also noted that there is a risk of escalation and, he says, a risk of a political split within nato if ukraine strikes deep into russia with american weapons. comments are the key. so, the key to this situation is the key to understanding

where such er fears came from. that just a few weeks ago, both the minister of defense of great britain and the minister of foreign affairs of britain and registration spoke about the fact that military targets of the russian federation located on the territory of russia are absolutely legal targets in the border zone, so absolutely legal targets for strikes from the ukrainian side if this is done in order to reduce the combat capability and offensive potential of russian units located on the territory of ukraine, i.e. in principles, moments, that is, in this context, they have already been outlined, in fact, the only thing here is, well , obviously, on the part of washington, there are european allies, so in that context, to explain to

them, on the one hand, what is wrong with ukraine. well, so to speak , work is being done on that so that we have in mind only these legal goals for such strikes in order to actually make it easier for ourselves to liberate our territories and nothing else actually i think that these statements to washington are so much if the question is so as to limit the ukrainian side in some kind of rabbit hole, because you can be more than sure that, taking into account the international support that the united states provides us, we and washington are as synchronized as possible, both in military aspects and in political aspects, and more than anything, these statements are primarily addressed a european ally of the usa panado in order to uh well, let's say so, to keep the peace of europeans in the context that uh er, they already say directly that er this will happen with, let’s

say, maximum caution on the american side and with maximum attention to any risks of potential escalation, because well, we understand that the european allies from the championship are primarily afraid of this very army, but they are interested in the topic of ukraine is waiting for weapons, and what is happening now, in particular, in the donbass, they are also missing due to the lack of any weapons, which ukraine has not yet waited for, well , in fact, yes, we are now waiting for three main ones the items are from the list that we have added. let's put it this way, for the information of our western centurions, the first thing is the most important - these are rocket salvo systems, these are artillery systems. well, one of the types of artillery, yes, because there are two types of artillery in general - this is created by artillery, and in fact

, we have already received these samples of weapon systems, the well-known m-77 artillery systems, and they are now showing themselves very well in the fund in the fight against all the teams, but in fact we need more powerful e- e more long-range e-e reactive systems of volley fire and here we are talking about two key systems that we are asking the united states of america to provide us, this is the so-called mls smolteleonchuvakin system270 and has two rocket systems of a salvo in a full range of about 100 km standard range and they also have e-e packages with charges up to a range of up to 300 km. that is, it is actually e-e approaching the parameters e- e. radically change the situation at the front so because we will be able to destroy the russian troops

that do not approach the line of contact and the battle line of the collision and in fact in this way we will make it easier for ourselves to defend ourselves first, and i guess that we will make it easier for us to plan offensive operations the second thing we expect is the anti-ship missile system , and here after the departure, we have good news from denmark, which has agreed to provide us with harpoon missiles , and this will allow it to change the balance of power in the south of ukraine. -e must be countered by the ships of the black sea fleet of the russian federation, and the third point is no less important - this is the anti-aircraft system of the armor, the patriot air-launched missile complexes, which the united states also began to talk about seriously and loudly after the signing was signed here this additional budget is 40 billion dollars to support ukraine, well, actually, these are the three main points we are waiting for, and they

are critically important now, in order to strengthen our positions, firstly, in defense, and secondly, provide us with offensive potential in in the future to liberate our territories from the russian invaders, military analysts say that luhansk region, we started with it on the air, may be completely taken over in the coming days. please tell me if you share these forecasts. we are talking about forecasts that relate to the motor-operational level, so that is, well, the moment that is connected with the control of specific settlements, either by the ukrainian side or by the russian invaders, in principle, taking into account the dynamics here the battles that are happening right now, the process is, well, at some point, we may lose control over some population centers, at a certain point in time, we can either knock out the russians or seize control and hold other population centers, yes

, that is, well in fact, now, in this mode , it is actually very difficult to predict, because, well, the intensity of hostilities is very high. well, actually, the russians have concentrated on these directions, that is, especially yes, and on the eastern direction, the south is a little bit . went away a little now, in fact, hmm, it seems to be on the back burner, because the black sea fleet is being tri-grouped there, there is a question of compensating for the losses of the russian fleet from the loss of the flag on moscow, but in the eastern direction, the russians have concentrated to the maximum and they are at a rather slow pace, but they they are trying well, so to speak, to cut off the edges of our territory, that's why, well, here, if everything really depends on the situation, concretely, daily, and on the decisions made by our commanders, who are generally

responsible for these events well, but the main thing that we must remember here is that even if there will be moments that will be transported with the fact that our troops will withdraw in certain directions. we must remember that this is done in first of all, in order to save our fighters, save the equipment and, accordingly, easily write the potential so that later with minimal losses for yourself, but with maximum losses for the enemy, all the territories will eventually be returned. by some geographical point, like in chernobaivka, there are already a lot of officials there, and it’s just a matter of putting a new staff there and everything is as simple as being there. thank you very much for your comment. taras zoftenko, an expert on national security issues, candidate of political sciences, on radio svoboda, residents of kherson and oblasts reach lviv by evacuation train

from the occupied territory, people say that in order to leave the territory controlled by ukraine, we have to wait over a month, what is the situation in kherson and oblasts now and how to leave there listen to those who managed to do this to the soldiers of the katsap uyimah, as far as we know, they don’t even allow me to leave the house to even leave. she herself is cattle, all of them walk around the village. who can train , who can milk. on may 2, we were quiet at night. 4 losses were going to the neighboring village . our priest is standing there. they mocked him like this, and one day maybe if you don't work for us, they

know the clubs. they released him, he came to our soldiers, we told everything because he certainly can't work for them then, well, these are the things we have. things that were before the occupation, it was a very good city. i can imagine it's hard, of course, but then we didn't occupy the city anymore, we stopped letting them out altogether, it was impossible to get outside the city for a whole month and a half, we waited for the planes and rockets to fly by, we're sitting here .

and he is surprisingly, we need missionaries. today, they are taking him out , so take a picture, aren’t he cruel, even though they are looking at their age, that’s how nikolay hala, they saw him all the time. yesterday we were digging, so it will be further, you know the russian grady, how did you manage to leave, there is a volunteer from above who helps to leave for free, we filled out an application, they helped me go through zaporozhye, well , more precisely, through vasilivka, there were a lot of roadblocks well, they drove from buses, but some of them were put in a block,

asked to take off their clothes, they looked at tattoos and looked for an example. well, mainly passports, if you compare kherson to the occupation, also what does the city look like now, how does it live, what has changed for you ? what people lose is the internet. well, it has disappeared, that is, it was turned off and turned on, but in general, the internet is always present, and we watch . news and so on tv russian channel, i decided to go from there because, to be honest, i can't look at these zets anymore, i can't look at these uh, in the eyes of these russians. when they say we are bad for us, don't you see that they say bad things to us no, you have a good one, we pass about 50 russian checkpoints at which they say and why are you entering

, why are you leaving, it will be good, well, we traveled with volunteers, so they are basically released if you are, if people from well, they probably won't let us out of zaporizhzhia with cars volunteers were also put on the train, and we will remind the residents of kherson oblast whom radio svoboda met at the lviv railway station. well, the prime minister of great britain boresh johnson proposed to the president of ukraine, volodymyr zelensky, to create a new international alliance that will oppose russia and become an alternative to the european union, at least reports about it the italian newspaper courier della sera, with reference to unnamed sources, the model of the european commonwealth that johnson allegedly seeks to create, journalists write, defined great britain as the leader and would include, in addition to ukraine, poland, estonia, latvia , lithuania, and possibly turkey, contact us pavlo

klimkin, minister of foreign affairs of ukraine 14-19 years, we are greetings greetings greetings, it looks like boris johnson is not giving up trying to become the leader of the european world, but since great britain has already no longer in the eu johnson plans to create some alternative parliaments and some kind of proposal about such a political commonwealth or there was a political commonwealth. well, at least it’s clear. who in paris is inventing this? and in the case of johnson, let’s wait until the proposal. according to the idea, i am skeptical if it will be some kind of substitute or even opposition to the european union on this is what the

countries of the european union will definitely not agree on today for many reasons, both security and economic and financial. well, actually, on the issue of european identity, but what concerns the creation of a new central europe, a new structure what would i, for example, play here with very creative ideas like some kind of confederation of a completely new type, then the process of course you can talk well, but boris, you know we have such a weirdo in a good sense, so first let's listen to what the actual wrestler has to say and let's not read the translation in italian newspapers, do you remember there was such a film, translation difficulties, first of all, not only italian newspapers, many media write about the fact that boris johnson has problems inside the country, so

maybe he is somehow trying to make a large-scale geopolitical activities. and secondly, you see which countries are mentioned here, all those countries that actually support ukraine in this war absolutely and completely, you can see here if er careers denis, well 100% - this is some er inner insight i know about such discussions are taking place regarding a possible new arc that will pass through the center of the continent and connect in a completely new way the countries that will be loaded , e. us is associated with some kind of sidetrack, but here the situation is actually completely different, i'm just not very sure that i'm still saying

that the eu countries will want to go to some kind of opposition to the european union for many reasons, because it is currently for them an anchor of stability and rules of the rule of law and more a lot of things but nevertheless, it is honest for new ideas, that's actually 101%. now there are a lot of them being discussed, uh, some of them are quite non-trivial, if you lead and fear, i like that this whole arc or compatibility or a new alliance, call it as he wants, he will definitely not be a russian fan , this is 100%, and the fact that this new alliance will openly, uh, not like putin's regime, i

already like it, but again, as literally as it is written in the italian newspaper. well, here in i have, as they say, great doubts that this will not happen. do you remember how my grandmother used to say, she talked, she sat down and cried, but nevertheless, if we talk about the european union, there will be a summit in june, it is unknown. by the way, ukraine will receive the status of a candidate there in eu members does not receive but there are still countries in the european union, france, italy, germany, hungary, where they do not share with ukraine the ultimate goal of this war, they do not share it until the end. the question is that they definitely do not want to let putin win. there is a concrete consensus. they constantly say this, each in his own way. something in one's own way pasta in one's own way italian there where in one's own way here everything is normal but then the disagreements really begin and what is

victory what are we ready or not ready to sacrifice for the sake of this victory how long will this last victory, these are all the issues on which there is a discussion, there are disagreements. this does not mean that these disagreements will lead to the destruction of european atlantic solidarity, but nevertheless they are, and there is also a serious discussion about whether it is worth inflicting a strategic defeat on putin and the putin regime here as well there are a lot of considerations starting from that. but someone wants to achieve a certain normality there after the war with russia, with this or with the other is another matter . and if russia loses, what will be the destabilization, what will happen to the world system and so on further, that is, in fact, those who are ready to jump

out and look at something completely new and jump out of a warm bath are still not so many. well, this offer for a career in the social security administration shows that the people around the boy are ready. well, there they press boris for his various punctures in domestic politics that's why he needs a party during covid well, it's really a very big puncture, well, for the prime minister of great britain, i just know even from my friends, they say, well, how is he? there is uh and this in fact, this is such a serious issue for the bayets, so boyes needs to try very hard to be forgiven in the end, and i don’t know the signal to the countries of the so -called old europe, what is that, friends? look , there will be an eu summit at the end of june, if you don’t vote, you

will lose ukraine as well. to the european union, boresh johnson can gather around ukraine and other friends, this is actually a very serious story and if the european union does not start to reboot, i use this word absolutely deliberately, that is what they say to accept in ukraine, we may need to change the founding treaties of the eu. well, if you need to, start thinking about it and start changing it. if you don’t do it, you’re actually doing something wrong, and then the question may really arise about what is the european union in the 21st century, what is it? in the 20th century, there is an answer to this, well, the truth is, we understand the role played by the european union why was it unique why was it innovative and now it is neither unique nor innovative

although there are discussions and very interesting discussions in fact, the only way to give a nominal push to the european union is to gather courage and start discussing these ideas out loud. well, if this proposal still belongs to boris personally, then someone gathered courage outside the european union , it remains for someone to have courage inside the european union, well, that's us too it would be nice to come up with some ideas about this at the very, very time, i think it will be very, very worthwhile thank you pavlo klimkin minister of foreign affairs of ukraine 14th - for the 19th year, the prosecutor's office of the kharkiv region is investigating the death of ukrainian volunteer volodymyr kotenko. most likely, his car ran into a meeting of russian tank colonies in march and was shot. volodymyr took his parents to

kharkiv himself despite the occupation. he traveled around the region and brought humanitarian aid to people from one of these exits . he did not return the 62nd price, there was some kind of bone there because his upper part is so so red that he is from lviv home yes maybe they made a mistake, maybe they took him to the hospital somewhere and then i need at the same time he said that he tore the yakuza apart and now we started to collect it, here was a skull with a spine, some bones, and here some more pieces of a leg, we have a stomach, this is my guess, but there are objective ones, so we assume that the shot was fired directly the young man collected bags and carried the bags for 15 km. that's it . it's bigger, i'm smaller. the husband died because he

had legs, and death came instantly because of this , only a few bones remained. from here, they helped people with medicine. they drove everything from this volunteer . what did they do now? don't worry for a second, it's not the first time we've had this much. we do our work like this every day, i don't remember who told me, uh, more candles about the war in ukraine, watch on the radio freedom ukraine channel, and freedom life will return to the air on

monday, and i in the meantime, i urge you to subscribe to the pages of radio svoboda on the internet in youtube, two channels of radio svoboda and radio svoboda ukraine, and also instagram telegram twitter facebook wherever it is convenient for you 93 two russian-ukrainian wars for your attention novods pressov works in the studio anzhelika sezonenko, the enemy shelled svyatohorsk, bogorodichne and vernopillya with artillery , in addition, the russian invaders used aviation for strikes on slovyansk and dovgenky on the liman direction, the russians are trying to dislodge our units from the settlement of liman and develop an offensive on slovyansk on the severodonetsk in the direction of rashist, with the support of artillery, they attacked the areas of populated areas with a generous bomb