which was still proposed by the ukrainian government by the ministry of foreign affairs even before the start of full-scale hostilities, do you remember that there was even a large annual meeting of ukrainian diplomats and there both the president and the minister of foreign affairs talked about the fact that ukraine was interested in creating such smaller alliances or smaller formats cooperation does not necessarily have to be some organizations for the promotion of certain interests and there. accordingly, we also talked about the socio-trio and the pro-trigue with turkey, so we actually have the format of poland and lithuania, that's why there can be a lot of such formats, and if you look here, it's definitely a good tactic, it's not a new tactic even in the european union . well, starting with the oldest benelux, we have a lot of different ones associations are also precisely the

vysegograd four, which are already incorporated in one way or another into the logic of the european union, but another question arises, can it be an alternative to the eu? let's talk about energy cooperation, economic cooperation, political cooperation, cultural, scientific, military cooperation, and any other types, and then the question of resources arises, which will be allocated to fill this cooperation, and there will definitely be advantages, but we do not need to dwell, for example, on the fact that in the eu there are very large funds, including the budget and funds that are precisely directed to the equalization of the development of the member countries, and here it is obvious that any other formats will not have such funds, so that is, we are talking about slightly different things here we speak as an auxiliary factor. it is quite understandable

. volodymyr volya, an international political scientist, is also with us, volodymyr. we congratulate you. good health. what is your opinion about these alternatives, should they be used? should they be parallel or instead? i treat all these formats as some kind of uh unnecessary commotion invent activity in order to create the appearance of what in general, when i read this news, i had the impression a-a especially since it was with reference to delaser's couriers and that this was a russian attack for so that the anti-russian front is divided, that's why they invent new formats and something else, by and large , there cannot be any formats except for the bilateral format between britain and, if we talk about a specific state, between britain and ukraine, between nato and ukraine and between the european union and

ukraine, all nato member states are bound by obligations to each other once and for all, the obligations are priority one in relation to the other , in the same way, all the member states of the european union have somewhere obligations to each other in relation to one cannot have any formats here. if we talk about the idea that these are tactical formats, then i am also skeptical about this, because these formats are why? they signed some statements, but in the end certain geopolitical circumstances arose, they each went their own way and quarreled, that is, in order to conduct external consultations, you know, you know, uh, moments, mmm, not strategic, then possible, yes, consultative ones

formats and from the point of view of strategy, what does it affect ? ​​well, i read what they write there, which seems to have been proposed by jones to ensure the leadership role of britain and so on , and so on. the level of british politics, yes, the influence of british politics in world affairs, yes, a separate format is not needed for this, britain works with many countries, its foreign policy is very active during the past year, i was there to see the minister of foreign affairs of britain and in turkey and wherever he was not, yes, that is, for this, i do not need any formats for providing assistance to ukraine, it also does without any formats, after all,

they are all limited to those priority obligations which they have both within nato and within the european union. the same poland cannot now do something that it wants without looking back at the european union, then we are discussing another statement that is completely fresh. president zelenskyi said that he and the prime minister mark rutte of the netherlands, whom pelchenko mentioned in his comment about the obvious differences of opinion regarding ukraine's membership in the eu. of the european family, however, he did not say anything about ukraine's membership in the eu. zelenskyi replied that he had talked about this, for example , on thursday. quote: i was honest with mark. told him something like this thank you for your speech you are really helping us and i am very grateful for that but as for the eu you kept silent about everything we

just wanted to hear i told him very openly if you think that we do not belong in the eu then you should to say clearly, zelenskyi said. well, he reminded ruta of this victory, where he said that first of all, ukraine belongs to the western balkans. i don’t know who serbia is, maybe some of russia supports there in the balkans, and then ukraine is its membership. should we, mr. dmytro, be more specific with the terms? during communication and demand clearer terms in the opposition from european partners, is the language of diplomacy - this is the language of diplomacy, we just have to wait and do our work, please here are a few things first of all, we understand that governments are not eternal, governments change this time, secondly everything - still, in the process of european integration, it foresees a certain phasing at the moment. we have not yet seen the decision of the european commission about our compliance with the copenhagen criteria, that is, this stage is necessary, we will pass it. after that, we will be able to

to move to the next stages already directly e-e of the work regarding the membership of the m-m, accordingly, as well as the implementation of a certain program of actions e and actually, this questionnaire and the answers to it will show e those areas where we still need to finalize and definitely this will be written at the stage of convincing our e- e partners in the european union in that they make decisions on the side of our european integration process. that is, this is not a quick stage - it is not, it will not happen . necessary focus thank you mr. volya and your position on the dialogue i also agree that there will be a quick process and in fact, we need to separate several aspects first er almost no one denies or no one even denies that ukraine will become a member of the

european union in the political sense in the er procedural issue there is an obstacle in even approving ukraine for the status of a candidate for the european union . then by the end of this summer, let's assume that ukraine can still get the status, another thing - this is something that directly concerns the new presidency, and here we see the same statements that it can last for many years, in fact, it sounds really, many people perceive it, so to speak, as er, hmm, a reason for pessimism, but so that various figures, er, prime ministers, er, our government, our

parliament, can especially embarrass them with their hard work to open a legislative front, and they er, for two years, there was no such convocation. on during the holidays, it will be quarantined and to hit all these nestlings will be unfriendly to anyone who talks about 10-15-20 years for ukraine's accession to the eu with vigorous legislative work on the implementation of reforms , moreover, i will tell you that they will be forced to do it because now and unfortunately and fortunately, there is such a situation as receiving funds from the european union for recovery, and it will most likely be connected step by step with reforms, so our government, i think that our opposition politicians can say whatever they want there are good figures abroad, but everything is in our hands.

if our government gets together and takes a really hard-hitting approach to reforms, then those who say that in 5-10-20 years will be simply ashamed. thank you for participating in our discussion. volodymyr volya and dmytrovychovskyi were with us thank you , political scientists, internationalists. thank you, and then we will go to religious issues. we already talked a little today about the decision of the moscow patriarchate, and about the first so-called day of their autocephaly, writes andriy kovalev, this is also religion. an expert and historian and he launched a video here. now we will see it, he writes that the first so-called day of the so-called autocephaly is in the brackets of the moscow patriarchate in ukraine, and it seems that they have declared that away from moscow we renounce the russian church, but we go to the youtube channel of the kyiv-pechersk lavra and we hear how the deacon

commemorates the moscow patriarch kirill well, what gundyayav in prayer they remember and pray for you, agent mykhailov, that's right well, the zakygibists in our kyiv churches pray to the very one who blesses right now there is a video of him blessing the russian soldiers to go kill ukrainians, well, in fact, without embellishment . andriy kovalev writes so gloriously, the entire autocephaly of the moscow patriarchate in ukraine has ended for a short time, the music was playing, he says, of course, the priest could not have been warned, but it is not accurate well, let's remind that the day before the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate, this is not a strange combination, kirill announced the march and said that we will now be independent, but not there there is a piece, let's watch this video, help to the citizens of ukraine, in particular, to perform the foothills for help, let's

pray for kyryll gundyaev well, this should be thrown out of the habit, it's a habit for how many years to sing anathema to mazepa and pray for the health of cogibist kyryll gundyaev in ukrainian churches, but he parts later we will talk about this, here is a questionable decision, it seems that there was a council, it seems that there was a decision but in the answer, uh, the moscow patriarch said that, sorry, we did not receive an official letter , there was no appeal.

let's talk further with the religious scholar, people's deputy of ukraine of the eighth convocation, viktor yelenskyi, is viktor yelenskyi already in touch with us? well, that's what we call them, the moscow patriarchate, they have always called themselves ukrainian orthodox church, and this is the answer of the russians to what happened, what was decided there by the council, their answer was as follows because the russian orthodox church has not received any appeals from the ukrainian orthodox church. we cannot respond to information we receive from the press and the internet. we pray for the preservation of the unity of the russian orthodox church. between

these two facts, the first range is the pressure from many parishioners, priests and even bishops who say that we must break with moscow, the second distance is the need to preserve their corporation, which for the head of the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate is now the primary task, because they want to preserve their property, they want to preserve their influence, they want to preserve their good, what are they essentially talking about matters are discussed openly at the cathedral, as the participants say, er, in front of the leader of this church, there were three skeins in one skein, there were appeals from parishioners who demanded a break with moscow in another

there were several files and it was much thinner. there were appeals from those who said that nothing needs to be changed, and finally, the third file was letters that said that we trust your wisdom, your blessedness . on the one hand, it will of course disappoint many patriots who are still in this church, but it opens up some possibilities. what did they do? they said that in the 90s, who remembers us? e was given a letter from the patriarch of moscow lex i patriarch oleksii of moscow said that you are now independent in your management, and for 30 years we

have even thought more about how to dispose of this independence. and today we decided that we will completely take this independence and delete it from our charter - this is what concerns the moscow patriarchate. we, of course, they don't say that. in this way, we will remove the claims against us from the authorities . the center is in the country of the aggressors, and in this way we will gain time, and life there, life shows. but again, for many priests and parishioners who are determined to break with moscow, this is some kind of step forward, which is an obvious step back

, they er approved all the decisions of their synods that have taken place since 2011, which means they also approved the decision that they are severing er-er they are severing the prayer ties and in general its characteristic communication, that is, communication in communion for the highest expression of love with the patriarch of constantinople and then from of alexandria and then with constantia - with the church of elat, then with the church of cyprus, and thus, in fact, they are now, er, er, some such association er, with an unsettled canonical status, if they now said that we are reaching out to the orthodox to the church of ukraine, let's start with them , brothers, and the christian dialogue with you has

radically changed the situation, especially since the orthodox church of ukraine says that it is willing to start this dialogue without any preconditions. they , that is, the moscow patriarchate, are such preconditions puts forward i think that in the near future, in the very near future , there should be some steps that will clarify to the parishioners what actually happened and in what direction the clergy would like to move, would it really like to move towards the independence and unity of the ukrainian orthodox do they want to, as they say , small elegant people sweat, mr. viktor? well, here is a video in which they are sitting among the leaders of the russian church, simply deacon vadym novinsky , a people's deputy. the same deputy is now available or not, and the deputies of the builder from you to the block and he

well, just yesterday they were talking about how he can sit among the leaders, among the bishops of the church, in the first row, just a boy who is the main sponsor of this church, but does he have a place there among the high men of the church? as you commented, i i think that vadym novinsky occupies the place that is assigned to him and what he has in terms of his influence on church affairs, that is, the princes of the church, bishops, archbishops and metropolitans have recognized who is actually one of the leaders of the leaders of this church and how e in this in this sense i think what they did this time, honestly, honestly , thank you for the honor. and in general, can there be two orthodox churches in the same country, because from

the point of view of a layman, it looks like a franchise , you know, one organization received a franchise from constantinople, and the other received a franchise from moscow, and now there are two franchises, there are two mcdonald's, you understand. i'm sorry. i can't do that and i don't want to offend anyone. but it seems to me that this is nonsense. you see it from the point of view of church law - it's a scandal, so this can't happen. why? er, the church is called local because it is determined by place, er, it is ukrainian not because ethnic ukrainians belong to it, it belongs to glagoluz and russians, mongols can belong to anyone, but its borders are determined by the borders of this country by place, therefore it it is called pomesna in ukraine there is a pomesna church this is the orthodox church of ukraine which is recognized as the first throne recognized by other orthodox churches,

including the second e-e in the diptych, that is, conventionally speaking, in the report card, e-e and this church normally exists it is developing, but it is the only canonically justified step for the current dioceses of the moscow patriarchate in ukraine to join this church, again, the head of the orthodox church of ukraine says that we are ready for any conditions yes, we are ready, uh, no, no, not to touch your property. if it is so dear to you, there are such models, for example, uh, the russian orthodox church abroad, which putin personally joined. such a model is also possible for the

moscow patriarchate in ukraine, but there cannot be two metropolitans of kyiv in one country, just like me, only as a transitional period, there can be two metropolitans of poltava or three of vinnytsia and so on and the like, and this anomaly must of course be overcome, and i think that the ecumenical patriarch bartholomew will transgress because of the fact that metropolitan onuphrius once sent him without reading his invitation to the council in december of the 18th year and will make an effort if there will be such a will in order for this unification to take place in the most economic and civilized way possible, the holy synod of the orthodox church of ukraine made a decision to create a new religious organization in the

territory of the kyiv-pechersk lavra. the significance of the feast of the dormition of the kiev-pechersk lavra as a shrine of all-ukrainian and world significance in order to overcome the consequences of the illegal subordination of its monastery to the moscow patria here at the suggestion of the blessed metropolitan and the epiphany the synod decided to form a religious organization as part of the religious association of the ukrainian orthodox church , namely the holy dormition kyiv-pechersk lavra, namely the men's monastery psu, is it possible to implement this, this is this appeal, this is from the state, and this temple is leased, please, but specifically, this is state property and the state must decide to whom it will transfer its property if it sees that the state that there is a real movement towards independence from the moscow patriarchate, then the orthodox church of ukraine can receive a part of this lavra if

there is no such movement towards independence, then i think that the entire laurel could be handed over to the orthodox church of ukraine viktor yelenskyi, a religious scholar, was with us later oleksiy doroshenko, the head of the ukrainian association of suppliers of trade networks, let's talk about goals, about buckwheat and about vegetables at the end and hours oleksiy, good morning good morning. good health. please tell us what we have behind the hype with the deficit. the question of salt already arose a month and a half ago, indeed, ukrainian suppliers started negotiations from abroad, if it had lasted, you know, the hideouts have been hidden for two weeks, then maybe there would not have

been such a shortage at all, but when i talked to several people yesterday, including wealthy ones, they they said that her women bought 25 kg of salt each and even more in conditions when the market is still not saturated, this would mean that, unfortunately, now these supplies that come from abroad are mainly from countries that are close to us because it is not profitable to transport salt from afar, the distance with which it is really profitable to supply, well, 300 km, well, 400. therefore, it is from the countries that are near us, as for ukrainian salt, there was not so much of it left, it was supplied to these stores that paid their e-e companies to suppliers in other countries. it's a pity they already switched to foreign salt earlier and i think that in a month this issue will be completely removed if people don't really buy 25 kg of salt, which will be enough for several years panotsiyu, we have a video

of artem salt there, back in april they suspended production because of shelling and then the general director of the state-owned enterprise, viktor yuriem, said that the enterprise is not working. according to the order , we can show the video for an indefinite period of time. because it survived the attack on the mines and the warehouse stopped working back in april, when it became impossible to take the finished products out to the soledar. this is how artem salt looks like yesterday, as of yesterday, everything was broken, both the office and the mill, and i don’t know what ’s underground where salt is mined, probably the condition is almost the same there, thanks in quotes to the russian measure that came to donetsk land. unfortunately, artem salt this is how it looks, i don’t know what kind of material losses they will be calculated later, we hope they will be compensated by the country that will lose in this war to russia

. 50 or 95 hryvnias, do not buy it because the gold price of salt, which really still remains, is already at an increased price or that which is supplied from abroad, well, 25 hryvnias is, by the way, a very good profit for everyone chains so let's wait when the price is really regulated, she already thinks that it will be stable after that, but unfortunately it will not decrease because you saw these shots, it will be necessary to invest the ukrainian states in this state monopoly again, but the price will really be fixed, i think that at the mark of 20 to 30 hryvnias per kilogram and it will always be like that, unfortunately, in april, we could talk about the fact that, unfortunately , we will have a shortage of some vegetables, which means that

there will be no such the price for which you and i are are they used to or at all, for example, there won’t be the same watermelons because of the fact that onions and watermelons and some other crops were mainly grown in the kherson region, that’s why ukraine will actually do without them this year and the same onions i think that after a while there will be increased prices for vegetables, you and i will see a large amount, after all, an offer from vegetable gardens and ukrainian farmers, but what was always brought from the south, kherson region, unfortunately, will not be able to provide this for mykolaiv region, in part. i think not more than 50% of what was before, but i know even from my relatives from the mykolaiv region that they are plowing the land and they will, uh, they have already finished sowing and are going to harvest normally, because we

will also be happy, but there are also melitopol cherries and tomatoes and peppers which in the south of zaporizhzhia did he grow near the island at school, which territories of the kamianka-dnipro region are under the energy grant, which territories are occupied unfortunately, that is , we are facing a shortage of many goods. i understand this year, and i think that those who go to even sometimes empty shelves are seen in hypermarkets, it is used to the fact that the assortment has significantly decreased, but i want to emphasize here that stores, as markets, only keep what people buy, and people now mainly buy a small assortment of so-called social products, a little different, and you know, vegetables and fruits that they want, that's why - and about cherries, i am not sure that people would have enough money in the conditions of a 20 percent drop in wages and significant unemployment to buy the same ones in the same quantities as before last summer

cherry, so i think that you and i will really live without it this summer, but the brand of melitopol cherry will be world famous. and after he is released, we will be sure that he will even export, but i vote for buckwheat, a social product, its price is in our title uah 100. what is its current gold price? what should i buy or not? will it be cheaper? buckwheat has been showing for many years that it is no longer a so-called social product and grain that people really buy as before. it is mainly only for the amateur who wants something else besides e- let's say it is cheaper to buy buckwheat groats, yes, but ukrainian farmers have not wanted to sow it in recent years, and even more so this year, because they can earn more from other crops. those who want to buy them can say what will happen