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brought to the urals and there they are forced to develop a new new new new spelling even more russified than it was before, that is, the 43rd year they consider it an urgent matter, they evacuate them and there under supervision they are forced to develop this spelling. the most frequent today change write correct you by the way, you mentioned that i am researching for myself today yes, mr. taras leonid bulakhovsky, but it is also important to note that the signature under this spelling was put by the then academician and minister of education pavlo tychyna but i apologize, but what is very important is
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that these discussions are important in this discussion and that the modern model of ukrainian spelling, as well as the modern program of ukrainian literature for different classes, should also be updated and be as flexible as possible, especially in the current conditions, for example a few years ago, the programs started to disappear in the opinion of the authors and, accordingly, the teachers who chose such textbooks, please samchuk ivan bagryany and ven malaniuk, everyone thought well, probably too many brutality, i hear some such arguments, that is why today it is necessary to start with the fact that the program on ukrainian literature at school and, accordingly, the textbooks on ukrainian literature at school should correspond to the real and things should be called by their names, we should not be afraid to talk about the occupation regimes, children should not be afraid to know about the events of the terrible famine years of the 20s-30s-40s. children should know how russification took place, how
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discriminatory processes took place. ivan strollers, who in the 1960s and 1980s, having visited the ussr at that time, actually experienced the lack of ukrainian education in our republic, so the consequences of this tragedy of this departure are obvious today, because only today they zealously defend the russian world and become the leaders of the occupation regimes of the same melitopol - these are people who should have come to the attention of law enforcement authorities much earlier, therefore the question of e-e programs, including foreign literature, is also a question of the professional environment, but it should be clearly understood the obvious policy of the body that determines the state educational strategy is the ministry of education and science of ukraine. in the coming days, i will meet with the minister of education and i will talk about these and many other things that, in my opinion, are extremely important in order for us to be able to strengthen the imperative of
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ukrainian culture are related to identity. because the issues of identity education and ukrainian victory, they are all interconnected, you cannot win without knowing and keeping under you large historical strata, including ours of spiritual culture, this is exactly what we started with when we prepared the so-called language hundred. these are the recommended surnames of the defenders of the researchers of the ukrainian language of the 20th century and the beginning of the 21st century. they made an extraordinary contribution to the establishment of the ukrainian language , including the emergence of the law on language, and among these names i would naturally mention ivan by the way, on february 24, 2022, during the shelling of the baikov cemetery, there was almost no one, but this is a person who at one time actually theorized the process of sixties by preparing in his legendary article internationalism or russification, he confirmed the fact that the ukrainian
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language almost did not exist in ukraine in the 1960s, and its condition was extremely dangerous at the level of national minorities, so there were many other things we say in our professional activities and we call on the citizens of ukraine resolutely spread the network and courses of the ukrainian language talk about the fact that local programs for the development of the ukrainian language should be created and fight as much as possible for our intellectual, cultural and linguistic field the front belonged to the ukrainians first of all, mr. taras, i wanted to ask about the renaming in our country, thank god, the monuments to alexander nevsky saints are falling , which er were betrayals, let's say who betrayed the father and served er with this er baty baty there to all these eh khans mean eh other prominent figures of theirs let's say eh defender eh emperor pushkin who justified the war eh hm aggressively against
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poland and many other crimes of the russian imperial court well and again this street i have the question is how high-quality is the approach to renaming the street because you know, you can rename everything and that's right. well, especially what is connected with russian culture and russian reality, and it's so illegible, there are 150 pushkin streets and not a single street, let's say kotsyubynska or anyone else. as far as the process is now, it's going right, as far as quality groups of people are concerned. they are working on renaming in certain settlements, and if there are any questions, then it is possible. well, who regulates it centrally, or is there no centralized regulation , that is what communities and local authorities decide if we are talking about e-e objects of toponymy, then of course it is the competence of the verkhovna rada of ukraine to rename or name settlements with new names, it is directly the competence of the parliament regarding streets, squares
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, cultural objects, educational institutions, etc., of course, this is the local government, but there are great positives about that process - this is the period that we marked decommunization, that is, we actually have so-called toponymic commissions or public councils at all or almost all local self-government bodies that those who directly participate in the discussion processes, they study the proposals and make appropriate decisions, we actually open every day we will receive letters from the local authorities informing us that, based on the results of these or other meetings, a decision has been made about either the restoration of historical us or the naming of modern e- e by figures of culture, art, etc. in the same way, this is very correct and very positive in addition to everything else - it is also regulated by articles 39-40-41 of the language law, according to which all the names must meet the standards of the ukrainian language and, of course, must meet the norms
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of modern ukrainian spelling, including, let's say, according to my address to energoatom, the glorious nuclear power plant is now called south ukrainian, and it is clear and obvious that the satellite city of e-e, which stands near the nuclear power plant, is obviously small would be called south ukrainian, and the mayor sent me a letter that now the acts are being discussed, this issue is being invited, historians are being addressed to the institute linguistics will probably write a letter to the national commission for state language standards that in order to organize extremely populated areas . actually, this process is taking place, but it is very important not to lose time, not to lose pace, and of course, so that mistakes are not made during these processes, let's say, they do not study the geography of those or other people, we don't
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have to overpay at the address. languages well, actually, we will continue in the language of truth, in the written language, so to speak, now ukraine is being popularized in ukrainian good writing is being popularized in warsaw i will briefly summarize our material on this topic thank you to poland, the ukrainian stand at the international book fair in warsaw will operate under this slogan of ukrainian for ukrainian writers , they prepared an honorable place in the program of events, which books are in demand at this fair and how our authors are respected in poland saw maria chernyakhivska she will tell us more than 24 ukrainian publishing houses brought books to the international book fair in warsaw, 5 ukrainian writers will speak at the events, in particular
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oksana zabuzhko, during the inaugural lecture at the opening of the book fair in warsaw, the writer emphasized that she was moved by how actively ukrainians are supported by the poles, it looks like putin's invasion to ukraine with the clear aim of destroying the country , just as hitler sought to destroy poland in his time , opened in the polish collective memory a full chest of half-forgotten stories and made the half -healed wounds of the past bleed again in the event, about 10 countries are participating, a special guest is norway, but ukraine is in the center of attention and has an important place in the program as a sign of solidarity . a polish author who received this award after this is really not an exception because it is an award for polish authors and therefore it is somehow a recognition of this well, i don't know this open
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the border and these very deep tectonic changes that are currently taking place between our two countries, this is an important line that somewhere well, somewhere behind, somewhere behind 12 points from poland at the eurovision for kalush, somewhere this means icarus, uh, at a book fair for zabuzku, somewhere, here he is it will also be taken into account in some future stories of our victory. we have a lot of ukrainians at the fair. olya came to warsaw from the kherson region, from a city that is occupied by russian troops. the situation at home is very tense, says the girl, but she is happy that at least she is telephone connection with my relatives today i came to the fair to support ukrainian, this is an important event and i really want to buy some ukrainian literature because being in the distance i know i want something native i also want to look at polish
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literature because these are the fields in which we can find even more common parties in search of ukrainian literature here and representatives of charitable organizations, we came here to find ukrainian and polish books for children, that is, in this way, we take them to the foundation and after that if there are a book that the child liked. that is, she comes and takes it for herself. that is, it is completely free to choose from what the organizers say about four hundred books are now present, there are 400 titles present at the stand, and this is children's literature - it's fishy literature as well as literature in particular, about war and fiction by ukrainian authors, everything is a thing for ukraine, polish partners have offered special conditions for participation, a stand for our literature is free, i have a lot of modern literature
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tells about the crimes that the russians are committing against us in ukraine about the war and i know that for many publishers it is now very important to find contact with their polish partners in order to be able to translate these books and expand the audience on the stand there are books by oksana zabuzhko, taras prokhaska, serhiy zhadana and other famous authors of kosia the books of stanislav aseev, who was a prisoner of the isolation concentration camp, which is located on the territory of donetsk, and he actually writes memoirs about his imprisonment. his books have been translated into almost, well, many languages of the world actually in order to tell about these war crimes committed by russia since the beginning of 2014, and children's literature is still in the greatest demand, because mostly women with
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children came to poland from ukraine. such historical books, more in particular, books, books that i would like to draw attention to, which may be interesting because in our country it concerns the topic of war. it covers the actual topic of volunteerism. my name is lada atb, who tells about the dog lada, who helps, who is a volunteer and helps our military, maryna, a kyivan, chose several books, which she had been putting off reading for a long time, but now the time is right, so serhii zhadanin boarding school, e.e., about the war , about important events for us, now we need to rethink and re-read and maybe
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we will find some new conclusions for ourselves. the international book fair is taking place in the palace of culture and science on the square in the morning. all events are free . there is a fair taking place in warsaw. but not all authors could actually go there. we saw taras prokhaska's books there, and he himself is actually here in ukraine, mr. taras. can you hear us? good afternoon, very well. i can hear it very well. i understand that in ivano-frankivsk now, if i'm not mistaken, in ivano-frankivsk and i was here all the time and there are still voices in ivano-frankivsk. you would like to say there if for example, you would be invited to this event and you
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would have the opportunity to speak. of course, i am happy and i have such an opportunity to belong to ukrainian authors who have been represented in poland for quite some time, that is, in fact, nowhere outside of ukraine. i am more attentive and better readers as it is not in poland, and therefore i don't know exactly what books there were, but this book won't be written about in the newspapers, it was published a few years ago, it's such a fun story about ukraine, not only about the most current things, but actually about the meanings of understanding of ukraine, and i note that for poles, for
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polish readers, it is very important, there are things to actually try to, uh, feel uh, uh, fathers, some close uh, close thoughts, close experiences that uh, unite with ukrainians, or do they just make ukrainian literature it is part of your own experience, mr. taras. please tell me that war is, of course, sorrow - it is a tragedy, but it is the thing that makes society grow up very quickly. well, who is capable of this, because there are such people who cannot grow up ; fall even lower, but in general, society is growing up, changing, perhaps looking at life more realistically and getting rid of some kind of imposed virtue, here is ukrainian literature that survived the war, as well as ukrainian writers what chance is given by war, what
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do you think literature will be? in our red writing, as far as i have noticed, there is literature also born of the war, which tells about the war itself, about the experiences, about the fates of individual people, about including uh and not only sad and tragic things, because the war at the level of everyone's life on one side is really the end of a certain world of their own, but at the same time it creates new situations that, uh, how and to which a person may never have waited or lived to see if he had not there was this dramatic upheaval, and
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that is why i am most looking forward to the literature of another kind of literature, which is about the war, that is, some kind of understanding of these uh-uh meanings of ukraine, that is, we talk a lot about the various factors of the history of the adventure, but now the moment has come when it became very clear after all, what we often said is also the national idea, what is the national idea, and here it is really a completely different level of the existence of the nation than the existence of the state and, accordingly, of every person who can put himself in more than just some circumstances caused by life difficulties or something else and to see in that some big, big
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influence of history and to see what she is like, how this story brings her, and on the other hand, how her life actually leads, well, on the new, new ticket of the history of the whole community and that's what i'm for who am i -e what who we how we should be together and what is the meaning of our future existence, this is very much what i hope for and what we once again began to think about for several months, not only as a writer but also as your attentive reader, well at least i am very i've been reading a lot for many years, your more serious opinions like this will disturb us, for example, and i
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know that you are the one who researches these questions of identity, first of all, yes. during the war, when the ukrainians showed what they are are very different and this is not news, romanoveshchuk says very well about the fact that ukraine is extremely complicated and ukrainians themselves very often do not understand what to say about people abroad, there are ambassadors and so on, but at the same time, all ukrainians the wars were common in one thing, independence is very important, unity and independence, whatever it means, whatever it means . a really important idea. that is, this is the value of this in itself, but there is always a question for later, but it must be asked now, why
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independence, unity, and so that it is the most important thing, and here, actually, here. do you have any ideas about what this should consist of? a new identity that will allow us to consolidate and be successful and move in the direction i really believe in what we confirmed to such a threshold when just survival for the sake of survival. sometimes i was embroidering in poverty or hardship or in some difficult social conditions, but i just knew that i had to live, i had to do something to support this whole life, so that it
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would somehow hold together. it seems to me that now we have reached to the threshold when it is necessary when it is clear that the most important thing is some kind of collective creativity, that is, the creation of ideas, the creation of some meanings, the formation of something new, some kind of simply not three, maintaining one's existence. and uh, now we have a chance to support our own, to survive, to save our existence, we have a chance to actually take advantage of this er, this er, place in the world and in our life, which well, it seems to me that it is about creating from new ideas, not about survival, not against for the sake
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of survival, but creativity at all levels, starting from e- military farmers, teachers , artists and artists, including mr. taras, by the way , ukrainian writers will become fashionable, well, this is in the good sense of the word, because we have a lot of worthy authors. you know somewhere ukrainians, a little aside, some convention came from abroad, which quality is the best there conditionally for you or always for someone else well, but there it means the whole ovation, because it is a guest who came to us, we are the same way in conversations, the publishing house is always given because we understand very well what famous writers are - they are not the ones who write better, they are usually the ones who promote better and i really believe that this event also shows in warsaw that in the future there will be more attention to the ukrainian word, ukrainian writers will be able to and live for account of one's work and popularizing ukraine, this is from wishes and from issues. i would like to ask my father now
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for a discussion, what does it mean to leave russia in all senses, there are no good russians and i agree with this. by the way, in the long run, in your opinion, ukraine should say goodbye to russian literature , or if not, why should i stay with this literature, because i went through it, went through it, well, maybe there are some things there, but it seems to me that now it’s just necessary, you know, to distance yourself from some sensitive ones. and in your opinion, how is this question worth to decide whether the current government will be able to establish clear borders and for at least how long to isolate ukraine, the ukrainian youth , above all, ukrainian children, from the creative influence of the east, please. i believe that we can not simply because of our destiny, which is geographically determined. we cannot get rid of the whole of russian literature or russian
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culture, because this is our neighbor and he will be our neighbor, and we simply do not know what is being done in the cultural sense in one neighbors the other thirdly, it is always, well, everything is always worse than knowing, which is another matter. what, uh, hmm, it takes a certain amount of time for you to learn to see that russian culture does not have to be pro-ukrainian, that is, not to expect from russian culture some kind of i am some kind of good for ukrainian ideas or for the ukrainian nation or for the ukrainian consumer of culture, that is, it must be
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perceived and for this it takes time to perceive it in any way . it is clear that what the state can do now is to stop access to russian literature, which is propagandistic, because we only have 5 minutes left, look, i want to say something like this, for example, i understand that slovak is important, but i i can't remember it right now, but anyone who was born around the same time as me can at least breathe out something like in the sea of light, a green oak gilds a chain on an oak tom, isn't there a certain
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peroxide like that all be as as as how to find a place is needed for russian culture and the russian language, including when we have, in principle, well before the war, well, somewhere half of the people in one way or another, well, i was very strongly affiliated with this language, with this culture, you really said the most important thing about the language back then well, the problem here is not culture as such. the problem is that the russian language is the russian language for a large part of ukrainians or the population of ukraine. there is one in which she is not close
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even if you don't want to, they have inculcated it all these decades of their lives because the russian language has always sounded like a parallel. and everywhere and that's why the issue of improving the attitude towards russian culture plays into the issue of improving the attitude towards one's own language. if this language is someone else's well, the culture will be neutral, and i think that we need to start with the translations of uh, ukrainian uh, ukrainian forward syllables, uh, of some of the best examples of russian literature. let's say that we read it in the same way as we read from that most of the people in ukraine
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read slovacky in ukrainian or mickiewicz. not to mention german authors, it's all autumnal. thank you very much, mr. taras. taras prokhasko, the writer was in touch with us, we talked about the warsaw book fair, and also about literature. i would like to see today's important event in the world of sports, the final of the champions league, which was supposed to take place. by the way , it will not take place in russia. and the coach of liverpool, who reached the final, said very good words take away the final of the champions league in russia, the right message is that we are playing for the people of ukraine, that's why today, when you watch football, you know that they will play for you, this is the anthem of liverpool in the fan's will never work alone, you will not go to anyone alone today, no way, for ukrainians, we are going alone thank god that the world's outstanding stars understand the situation with us today, these guys don't play in these games at all. neither of them are there, nor just in russia, the final was supposed to take place in a russian place, there in st. petersburg or in moscow. i don't know, but they took it and they took it there
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no, they didn’t come, and next year, by the way, they won’t be in any european tournament under the auspices of uefa or fifa, that’s why, in general, we have to move on to the championships, as far as i understand, they will have championships, but they will play there, so what i see the koval market is already ready. but i'm still catching up on the topic that taras prokhasky and i are there, and actually two good ideas. this is a good idea about what to translate, we can suddenly discover for ourselves. what , for example, master and margarita can be translated ukrainian, and it can be interesting, and there was even such an attempt, er, oleksandr filtz translated on his own, a well-known psychiatrist from lviv once where, in the late 90s, actually feeling intuitively or understanding this need, and for example such things as the days of the turbines or the white guard is it something or what is it called, i don't remember it and we don't really need it, let the russians learn now about the most relevant events at this time
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