part of the territory must be conquered, recaptured or de-occupied, i don't know how to say military terminology correctly, what do you say, did the ukrainian military really carry out or are they currently carrying out? already the operational level and the definition there is such that this is consistency in time and place of actions and so on, but counter-attack actions are really tactical actions. that is , we can truly say that the ukrainian troops in within the framework of the general operation, counterattack actions are being carried out in some directions. that's all , that is, we can really say that if a full-scale operation began to be carried out in the kherson region, it would really be a slightly different scale , now counterattack actions are being carried out, if the terminology is correct, absolutely he yes, look more hmm mr. mykhailo 3-4 days ago, i

felt from many sources that people use such a phrase operatively equilibrium, that is, the russians can no longer advance, the ukrainians still can't to counterattack and such a situation is a curse, how long can it last, am i right in my thoughts and how long can this pause take place, this equilibrium, because what i read in various classics of military affairs it is written that during a war it is impossible, they must begin some actions from one side from the other side at the same time from two sides, in your opinion, when will this equilibrium end? well, it would be if there really was a certain equilibrium. do you remember the period when the russians completely i will use

some decent word suffered a defeat in the north of ukraine and because there was a period when the ukrainians really chased the russians, the russians tried to escape from the kyiv chernihiv sumy kharkiv regions regrouped and there was such a period until the middle of april a-a certain really such a certain equilibrium then they regrouped and constructed themselves in donbas mainly and now we see very active actions now there is no balance the russians are trying to achieve their political military goals very actively they are losing every day, huge forces and armored vehicles and personnel and aircraft yesterday, for example, in aviation, the ukrainian defenders very powerfully marched several planes, several drone helicopters, this means that they use a lot of aviation, a lot of artillery, all forces are throwing in order to really reach this 100% of luhansk region and of course, the most important thing for them now is

to break through the defense of the ukrainians so that the ukrainian army, let's say, swims like a boxer swims in boxing , and then they will try to push further, and attack from raisin direction and from gulyaipol, and in fact in the entire direction from the demarcation line according to the minsk agreements, they could now start such offensive actions so that the armed forces of ukraine would begin to retreat already globally and then they could declare some movement, this was not allowed and i really liked it maybe it was really planned and psor when there were a lot of such alarming statements, there were a lot of statements that no one delivers anything to us, and then yesterday and today messages appear, but in fact they are already american self-propelled artillery installations are already at the front, the french, in short, and the mlrs are already on the way and just like the hunchbacks, that is, i think that the ukrainian army

is now performing a very important task - it is a gain of time until we succeed in concentrating these newest weapons with the long-range artillery of the russian federation, modern american e air defense when we can really turn the situation around and start countermeasures first and then counterattack operations well, maybe the last question is no , let’s see how it goes further steps of the russian army. and i see that this is such a ukrainian proverb again, fish is money , that is, i have not heard of changes in their psychology. how did you correctly use the word to push? there is no such thing as mastery of general understanding, how to surround, how to deceive the enemy, as napoleon taught us all that the first thing during a

war is to deceive the enemy, there are no intellectual efforts, there is just brute force. well, if this brute force is like that, in the same way, to lose people and weapons. so what will happen then 2-3 weeks, you can just paint a picture of me, not me, for all of us, if the ukrainian army is standing, even without a counterattack, you are just standing, some western weapons will approach, they continue to lose people, this is some kind of absurd. on a tree so as not to see it because it is a very easy victory . i don't, i don't believe that during a war there can be an easy victory absolutely during the holy chernobaivka .

read and so on, there is a problem with this war in general, it is stupid, stupid, because he invented it. it was invented by a little inadequate, maybe very inadequate, putin, and therefore really from a military point of view, it is absolutely meaningless for the russians , they just throw their troops and destroy them for the generals in principle russians, you know , it doesn’t matter how many russians there are, according to whether there are tanks, so the main thing is to keep the epaulettes so that the gorillas are very bright, and there everything is written somehow because if and what to do with the forecast from the point of view military. i think that little will change. the russians will be pert. the russians will climb. well, because it is banal, putin demands from the generals, the generals demand from their subordinates to go to the death, and there is nothing wrong with that. i think that, after all, the arab psychology of russia, it will not change very quickly, but - and maybe gradually. and from the point of view of further steps, i think that the ukrainian army and the ukrainian command absolutely understand all this and will

try to carry out countermeasures where possible, but just in the south, countermeasures began actions. i hope that this is a harbinger of the fact that the ukrainian army will now start a major counter-attack operation in the south, while the russians are throwing everything there in the donbas, for example, the ukrainian army can try to liberate the south. and this will be a huge blow to the russians, a huge psychological blow because those concentrating on donbas ah ah as a result receive a military defeat because there is no great sense for them to continue standing in donbas either or the ukrainian army will then concentrate on donbas and it will be difficult in general especially if you ask again about western weapons, that's why i think that this is the forecast that the ukrainian army will now start the war, but not in donbas . rural expert

deputy director of the army research center for the conversion and disarmament of weapons weapons i insist okay was with us thank you we will move on to the following topics and now we can hear people's deputies mykola knyazhytskyi and we will discuss sofia fedina, and the topic of the nato parliamentary assembly session taking place in vilnius, we witnessed a shameful violation of the law when the leader of the opposition political force european solidarity was absolutely illegally not released from the borders of ukraine, he traveled from tachychuk to participate in to the nato parliamentary assembly for international meetings for agreements on the supply of weapons to ukraine, these official meetings were expected by the border guards insolent, breaking the law, being guided by the phone together, they simply did not release it, we are witnesses of the fact that when our soldiers are at war with

putin's russia, someone here wants to build putin's dictatorial ukraine in order to later surrender this country, we will not allow it, the most unfortunate thing was that the border guards did not even tried to study the situation and simply stated the fact that we cannot let you in because you have no reason to go abroad, it turns out that the order of the chairman of the verkhovna rada, ruslan stepanchuk, is not for ruslan stefanchuk, who was ready to explain everything to the border guards via phone video mode, the border guards were not interested, and when we mentioned the question and on the basis of what are you refusing, they emphasized on the basis of the law on the introduction of martial law and on the basis of the fact that the deputies voted on it in the verkhovna rada the most important thing for the council is that when we asked about the norms, they were not even able to distinguish between what is a norm, what is a law and what is a reason. it is very unfortunate that today three specific border guards

who were clearly instructed by the president's office, not only prevented petro oleksiiovych from legally representing ukraine at the nato parliamentary assembly, but also prevented new agreements on the supply of weapons, prevented the strengthening of the state, and the border guards clearly said that ruslan stefanchuk is nobody for them and he has no right to sign documents i just want to add that there are no precautionary measures limiting the right of petro poroshenko to travel outside of ukraine today. i want to add that the people's deputy of ukraine has the right to freely to the constitution and the legal status of a people's deputy to cross the state border of ukraine, a people's deputy of ukraine is not a military service member petro poroshenko went on a business trip based on the order of the chairman of the verkhovna rada, together with other members or other members of the delegation, all of them were released except for petro poroshenko without citing any reasons yes i will remind our viewers that this parliamentary assembly of nato is being held in vilnius, by the way, it was supposed to

be held in kyiv this year. however, due to russian aggression, a full-scale invasion of ukraine, a war against the ukrainian state from the russian federation, they were forced to postpone an arbitrary one, however, petro poroshenko, the fifth president, people's deputy of ukraine , leader of european solidarity, was part of the delegations from e from the parliament, and he was not allowed even on the basis of the order of the speaker of the verkhovna rada, ruslan stefanchuk, at the border with us on the communication of iryna gerashchenko, people's deputy of ukraine, members of the verkhovna rada committee on foreign policy and inter- parliamentary cooperation, ms. iryna, congratulate thanks to ukraine, can you explain to us some details about what the border guards told petro poroshenko why they didn’t let him through, on what grounds, european solidarity is outraged by these events, we are convinced that this kind of tyranny

undermines not only domestic unity in the country, which is demonstrated by political forces, and in particular, our team and this is a very bad signal for the world, which admires the courage of ukraine's city army, which gave a lot to this unity, he is that unity is being undermined and there are problems today with the protection of national interests, this is selective justice, this selective treatment of people's deputies i want to say that everyone else is released from abroad according to this order, the entire ukrainian delegation went to meet the border guards under forced and completely fabricated pretexts. and this order turned out to be invalid, and then when this qr code was read, they said that there are still not enough documents and the statement of the chairman of the verkhovna rada

means nothing to them. i think it is time to express my protest about this selective and absolute attitude. well, the violation of democracy, ms. iryna, but as good news. as far as i understand , the delegation left without mr. poroshenko, but the rest of the people will be able to represent ukraine, agree on something, conduct negotiations, explain ukraine's point of view during this russian invasion, and so on and the like. i understood correctly uh, i want to say that, in accordance with all norms of parliamentarism, parliamentary delegations are always formed on a par with the participation of representatives of all parliamentary factions and groups, and here is the parliamentary delegation now on these extremely important the meeting in vilnius at the nato parliamentary assembly is not a parity one, the representatives of the largest opposition faction of european solidarity are not represented there, in essence, our faction

was deprived of a vote there today, they were deprived of their position, and unfortunately, this is not the first such case when the government undermines unity and here tv channels close independent ones, then fight with mayors, you know we were in davos now on a business trip and on the sidelines of the world economic forum we talked with the independent mayor of chernihiv vlada matroschenka who he did not escape from chernigov during the most difficult days of the bombing, but simply the russian invasion. so he was also not allowed to go on a business trip now, although vlada troshenko now has to deal with the reconstruction of the city, think about how to find new support for new investors, and only because he is there not agreeable and the authorities also tried not to let him go abroad, we see some kind of selectiveness in these business trips, and moreover, it is a violation of the constitution of ukraine and the law on the status of a people's deputy, because even martial law does not block it

on the contrary, the political activities of the deputies, we now have to unite in order to protect ukraine with the whole world, and ask our partners for more weapons, and more sanctions against the russian federation, and it is obvious that this is a very bad signal for the west, especially on the eve of such a key debate, and in to the european union regarding ukraine's obtaining the status of a candidate for eu membership, you know that among the countries there are such ukraine skeptics who have few euros and to give him such fat trump cards. asked the speaker of the verkhovna rada, stefanchuk, what did he say to you? if you can tell me, what are the general mechanisms for defending petro poroshenko's right to go on a business trip abroad, in this case, at the nato assembly, and i really, as soon as it happened, this is an absolute

disgrace at the border when on the evening of may 27, petro oleksiyovych was blocked from leaving for a business trip, although he had all the documents with him, all the relevant business trips and orders. may 30 is the nato parliamentary assembly in vilnius, and immediately from there poroshenko has to fly to the epip summit in rotterdam, and that's when it's the forum of the most prestigious, largest, most influential european party, which unites the political center-right, all european parties, a new leadership will be elected there, and many positions will be dedicated there panels about the situation in ukraine, there will be prime ministers, presidents, speakers in many european countries, and the fifth president, poroshenko , who also had a speech there, where he is going to rotterdam yes, there are relevant orders of the chairman

of the verkhovna rada regarding these two business trips. and what a shame when three border guards, obviously forced to do this, first said that these orders are not valid, then said that there are not enough documents to pass this business trip. when we informed the chairman of the verkhovna rada about this and said that we consider these positions as the next democracy, he once again noted that his orders are more valid, he does not have any more valid statements and, frankly, we would like the leadership of the vvr not only from the chairman of the verkhovna rada, but from his deputies, from the leaders of all the factions of a harsh reaction to these anti-democratic actions of the government, it is obvious that the border guards act exclusively on instructions from above. thank you very much for taking the time to join our broadcast . direct communication regarding the holding of

the nato parliamentary assembly in vilnius and not being allowed to cross the border in order to go on this business trip as part of the ukrainian delegation of petro poroshenko the fifth the president of the people's deputy of ukraine, what can we do with our next expert, and we are joined by mr. magda, yes. good health, mr. yevgeny. glory to ukraine glory to the heroes glory to the heroes so, regarding the nato parliamentary assembly, we wanted to ask about the issue of weapons, obviously there will also be what will be to be given to ukraine in the future to consider, in particular, such an interesting situation with our long-range weapons and creative systems of long-range salvo fire, this is our biggest and most important demand today to of the west and furrow johnson, well, the prime minister of great britain also called literally yesterday to provide such weapons to ukraine, saying that it is

impossible to wait for an even greater escalation . do you think that the west is really afraid of any escalation from putin, that is why they are inhibiting the provision of this very weapon weapons or are there any other reasons? well , first of all, i wanted to clarify that no decisions will be made at the nato parliamentary assembly, well , this is still a place for discussing issues where members of the north atlantic treaty organization participate of the alliance, as well as the members of the extended partnership program and those who, for themselves, have a euro-atlantic course and cooperation with the technical atlantic alliance, such a topic, mr. yevgeny, is the provision of weapons to ukraine simply. the nato parliamentary assembly does not have the authority to force its members or to make decisions urging them to speed up because this is

for each nato country and we have already understood that for each nato country it will be a separate challenge, a separate challenge. will they be a platform for ukraine to convince representatives of other countries to provide these weapons, that is why i personally have a question: who would be more convincing for our partners, the former president, the minister of foreign affairs and the secretary of the national security and defense council and the current parliamentarian petro poroshenko or the current first vice-speaker of the parliament oleksandr kornienko, who was a personal trainer growth and the soloist of the soloist of the two groups sasha and i are just the level of knowledge of two parliamentarians in the european and euro-atlantic community i am interested, if i say it without jokes, that they are similar

relapses of yanukovych when zelensky smells of yanukovych is bad, but for ancient integration because it is not only a matter of supplying weapons, integration into nato is not only a matter of the fact that we will receive weapons and our armed forces will meet certain standards, they are by and large in many issues in any case, in terms of its combat capability, another matter is how it is achieved, but in terms of combat capability, i am sure that the ukrainian army is not inferior to the french army or the bundessphere and almost any other army cannot, with the exception of the american, british, with certain nuances, the turkish, as i am talking about the north atlantic alliance in this case, but nato is also the need to adhere to certain

democratic principles, especially since this year in july it will be 25 years since the moment when ukraine and nato signed a special partnership in kharkiv. that is, we have been for 25 years. is happening today around petro poroshenko for example it's just uh well i would say you know speaking in football language because tonight many people will still watch football despite everything uh this is a yellow card a yellow card and quite an obvious yellow card to the ukrainian authorities and with such in such a context, to take further action, to

count on the success of euro-atlantic integration , well, it is, in my opinion, just beyond the borders of the country . i am not convinced that the audience is aware of these hints , because i, for example, am not aware. that is, you made it clear that mr. kornienko went to represent ukraine and this was the reason for not allowing the leader of european solidarity to go there in free time, or that i am just there as a delegation, a group from ukraine and there is and mr. kornienko and mr. chernev, who is mrs. bezugla, who, by the way, didn't go either, she went to the east as a representative of the specialized committee. with their

colleagues from the nato parliamentary assembly. i remember he was a serviceman, yes, he fought in the armed forces or a volunteer. i don't remember exactly if there is a garden of national guardsmen, but in any case, that is, if in our society there is often an obvious request and call let's be coordinate their positions and act together, especially somewhere in the external arena, why does this not happen within the political class? the question is that, strictly speaking, now is the time and the place ukraine may 22, so that these political or

student quarrels, uh, are made public in the way we see it on the 94th day of the war. now is the time to find out who rabinovych is to whom, or is it somehow possible it is possible after the war already after i hope the victory will transfer the quality of strife as far as i know rabinovych is not a member of the nato parliamentary assembly in ukraine good news good news in ukraine but if we are serious, you know i have a feeling that these are links of the same chain criticism of nato from a bunch of ukrainian officials who say that nato has not done anything for ukraine, but one must be cosmically naive in order to believe that nato, for example, during

ukraine's hostilities with a nuclear state, made a decision to accept ukraine into the north atlantic alliance, then a number sorry for the unparliamentary expressions of absolutely idiotic draft laws, from uh, changing the words of the national anthem of ukraine to the initiative that made it possible for a commander to kill a soldier on the battlefield in order to prevent desertion, in fact similar things they well, the armed forces, as far as i know, our defenders, er, i would say that they were stressed because the army is a part of the people, this should not be forgotten, and in the current situation, i would say that our defenders are the best part of the ukrainian people. there is no doubt here it's happening. i'm sorry

, it's a standardization of nato, yes, of the north atlantic alliance. there are certain obligations to nato, we have to improve our legislation . it is not known whether there were similar things in the legislation of the nato countries, it rather smells like the summer of 1942, the events of the soviet-german war are known by decree, order 227, not even a step back, there was a famous one who allowed the shooting of deserters, panickers, etc., and whose victims were tens or even hundreds of thousands of soldiers of the red army in that very hot summer, when the wehrmacht rushed to the caucasus through the donetsk steppes, this was also ordered,

that is, it is so revealing here. i would say that it is a violation of the rights of the parliamentarian who heads the opposition faction, you know, the control is not only on the night from friday to saturday, with a certain hysteria, a number of telegram channels with the word war in the name so that people can read it faster, but even today , so to speak, so that everyone understands. when the chairman woke up of the verkhovna rada, when they were able to call him well, you understand that such a theater of the absurd, he looks at least strange under these conditions, but he can sleep with the sound turned off during the war, but it’s just me, for example, they are talking to you so that they, i can’t help myself in to the next what can a politician afford during a

war and what can he not afford well, for example, when you are not even a politician, but you use the phrase opposition faction in me, it also evokes such certain thoughts, because it seems to me during the war, well, somehow, the phrase opposition opposition to what about the struggle of the ukrainian people against the russian invasion, you can also ask the question, you understand, but that's why you need to be very careful here , you have to find such words, the war, the war has been going on for three years, and the majority of it has existed since the first day and i will not reveal it to anyone i think the secret is to scan the deputy group of the revival of ukraine was created in order to create in the near future as soon as it is politically possible and it has

happened it is possible to create a constitutional majority in the interests of volodymyr zelenskyi, the party is a servant of the people, how are we going to deceive each other this system i am against it, no, no, no one will, well, i would add volodymyr zelenskyi, the supreme commander -in-chief during military operations, to the a-a-p. i have one and both. i think they have the right to life and i would be more careful if i were a politician . this constitutional majority will exist and when this group is effective, what are the political possibilities . it is clear that now i would agree with the fact that the constitutional majority votes for bills. but even in our society, not all citizens consider russia to be our enemies