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because people missed the events and the museums, when we saw how many people came to us, we realized that we had to open a museum no matter what. we have two themes, the theme of kyivan rus and the theme of ukrainian models, and we are trying to combine it so that through these our works to show cultural and historical information to convey to the viewer our development of ukraine, our traditions of the kyiv region and put in principle our territorial e-e of our region new life in spite of everything a deer was born in the odesa zoo told the director of the zoo, igor bilyakov, decided to name the baby bambi, the newborn is eating well, and he is already going for a walk with his mother in the summer . zoo visitors will be able to
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see the new resident of the aviary with their own eyes. that's all the news, i'll say goodbye to you already. until tomorrow. until the morning, and i want to wish you a peaceful , calm and quiet night and take care. watch it on the air. congratulations, i'm olga, i'm lazy, and this is exclusive interview on the espresso tv channel today we are talking to an interesting interlocutor, this is a cyborg paratrooper from the donetsk airport, after that a major general who was involved in the implementation of a new food system and new formations in the army went through an unfair trial, they tried to imprison him in the case of bulletproof vests, which were eventually handed over to the army the leader of the knight of the order of bohdan khmelnytsky third degree is dmytro marchenko in february, march, from the first days of the full-scale invasion of the russian federation, he led the defense of mykolaiv
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. thanks to his determination and skill, mykolaiv survived surrounded on three sides by the enemy, and then the defense forces of ukraine pushed back the russian invaders from the city, we have the opportunity to talk with him today. greetings, generals. good day. i am reading around. this happened because, uh, they worked hard, they worked well. which services were supposed to deal with this? that is, uh, well, everyone says that marchenko is the defender of mykolaiv, well, it's not like that. the defenders of mykolaiv were a large group of people. that is, we made such a big mechanism, where everyone, where every service, every person performed their function, someone put out fires, someone prepared food for the soldiers, someone sat in the trench, someone patrolled, someone
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, that is, it was such a big system that uh, committed resistance against, well, against the russian federation. i saw your interview where you say that now that you have more information, you don't even know how you did it and whether you could do it again, but still, if you did. ask what was the key factor in the success of the defense of nikolaev. the key factor was me. i believe that this is exactly the mood of the people, per 100 people who did not agree to the fact that they would be captured by all the means we had, we simply began to resist, these are the people, and these are the three of us, this is the most important and fundamental thing for in order to have some initiative in the battle well, if i look back again, i understand that there are assumptions, this is always such a thing, but was there an opportunity at the beginning of the
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invasion to really defend kherson energodar there? well, in the south, do not let it advance so far . what do you think? well, i i think this is a possibility i've always been, but i'm a supporter of what i, well, i can't comment on those things where i was. well, those cities, those battles where i wasn't there. i don't know what factors played a role there. i don't know. well, that's why i can't explain why it happened that way well, but if we say now, should we expect a new offensive of russian troops in the south because a lot of information about their entrenchment there is going to be concentrated, does that mean that they are just fixing the line or can they still try to advance? well, that they will try to advance - this is one hundred percent information, therefore, they are waiting for them every day, every day mykolaiv is ready and waiting for the offensive, so they are entrenched there, so
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they are creating some reserves there, but i already said that the strength of these means is not enough for them to overcome the defense mykolaiv, which is currently set up, there are excellent commanders, there are excellent soldiers , there are excellent people and who have now built a defense so that it will be very difficult for them to break through at least the first two lines of defense there, that is, the chance to take mykolaiv for the russians has basically already been lost yes, they had a chance at the beginning of may to do so, but they lost it. well, well , do the defense forces of ukraine have the ability to go on the offensive and retake kherson, again, the same melitopol energodar, how realistic is it? it is realistic, in order to advance, we need to arm our people a little,
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there is a desire, there are people, there is a mood, but you understand, we have fought a lot of big battles, and we are also losing weapons and people, so we need a little right now the reinforcement is the weapon itself and i think that this is all real and it will happen. well, in your opinion, in principle, if you go back even to the beginning of the war, did you personally have an idea that the war would be of this kind of plan, because, at first glance, they were preparing you all know to some extent the weapons that were given to us the day before the war there, a month or two before the war, they were weapons rather for partisan actions than for repulsion, or did you have any idea what the war could be? well, i think that no one did not have no idea what the war will be like
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to say that i knew that it would be like that well, this is wrong . i don't know who could have known at that moment before the war how it would start. yes, we had ideas. yes, we understood where they would be able to attack from, but the operation itself and and it is exactly in such a in the way it started well, i don't think that there were many people who knew that it would happen exactly like this uhu is watching, many also say that in principle, the russians drew conclusions from the first months of the war and are now acting somehow more concentrated. like us somehow we learn, they learn, they draw conclusions, that is, those tactical actions that they used at the beginning, they are very different from the tactics that they conduct now, so, well, they also draw conclusions,
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too. they also rearrange their battle formations and act a little otherwise well, should we somehow change the method of action of the defense force of ukraine in connection with this? we are also learning. give credit to valery the hard-working e. he got along very well with e-e. well, there is such a correct military leadership here and they um very well cope with the task e-e correctness e-e arrangement e-e correct e-e well, that is not for anyone it's no secret that the basis of the command structure right now, both the top management and the
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commanders and combatants, are people who have had military experience in conducting military operations since the 14th year. people who have already seen battles and already understand how they are they are going through, they are now managing all these processes , each at their own level, the general staff is planning general military actions, etc., accordingly, the commanders on the ground are already planning their military actions, and it is exactly the survey that was received in 14- he gives us great advantages, but now, in principle, a lot of people are joining the army who first went there in the terrodefense, or were mobilized, they do not have such experience, and well, we see that they
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behave differently somehow, so what would you said well, how about to work with them because, well, we see that now someone is not ready for the fact that the shelling is coming. there, the commanders abandoned everyone, they all abandoned us, the tanks were hard against us, we were with machine guns, well, that’s how it was . otaki videos that suit them are recorded there and thrown away let them go to kherson or go to mariupol and look at those people, how civilians without body armor in cash registers without special training stopped tanks with their hands, that is, we must resist , our whole country must resist, regardless of whether
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you have anti-tank weapons there, that is, all of us we have to resist if we are not going to do this well, you know from the uh-e of this action, that is , we are simply captivated that's why we have to be strong we are at home we are on our land on well we have no other choice there think there wants we don't want there we have something, we don't have something, we need to defend our land well, and our homes well, many also say that now it seems that the war cannot move into a certain position this is the stage of a positional war uh, when the russians pay off there in some new positions and there will be a new line the demarcation is, you know, a repeat of the 15th year only in new positions. to what extent do you think this is a perspective and realistic? well, as far as i can see , no one is going to stop what is happening . given stages
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they are not going to stop. i think that eventually you will all see what is going on with us here, and we will fight for every piece of land, we are not going to give anything. to ask to sell is such a thankless business, but what does the readiness for this contrast depend on? more like that. the most important thing is the help of other states. that is, we don't have everything, we have the will, we have people, we do n't have enough weapons, weapons and equipment that's all we need if he finds us what we were promised i think that first of all what is important first of all which weapons well because
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emotions have passed now 777 passed like caesar what else should be air defense against air defense is one of the most important factors. yes, it is artillery and air defense. well, indeed, if we are reinforced with missiles with a range of 300 km, then well, believe me, this will give us a great advantage in battle. and what do you think? well, when? er in the west there are conversations that they do not want to give such weapons because they are afraid that ukraine will start shelling the territory of russia and this will provoke something there, how much is it necessary to really shell the bases on the territory of russia? i very much doubt that our leadership plans to shell
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any bases on the territory of the russian federation, we are fighting for our land and we will fire at the capture of our land and we need it, we do n't need it, we don't need it, but we don't have to give it away. that is, we are fighting for our land, which in we were taken away and no one is going to give it back, and they will help us, they will not help us, we will fight for it. well, from your personal experience, in principle , when you defended mykolaiv there. it was hard for us , it was very hard for us and we lacked a lot, but in spite of that, we mostly had uh, we had, how to say it correctly, we had success in the battle. that is, we repelled such very powerful attacks, we pushed uh, the enemy away from the city, and that basically played out such
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a big role in general, well, against the background of all their hostilities there and in the theater of hostilities in the south of ukraine, we completely broke their plans. what forced them somewhere, in some sense, to withdraw the army from kyiv and at redeployment in order to be successful. at least somewhere. and what was the plan, from your point of view, what was the longer-term plan in these offensives on mykolaiv? well, you understand. yes, what i have that information saw with my swords. these are the maps that we took er from the prisoners, that is, they had a plan to take er to besiege mykolaiv, er, voznesensk, capture , capture, and the south ukrainian nuclear power plant with two ferry crossings, cross to the other side of er, southern bug, and four or six, three
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, well, no, no, i don't remember, battalions, tactical groups, will move towards odesa in order to cover us the offensive of the amphibious assault that was supposed to come from the sea, if you could name something like that, what are the main moments that made it possible to protect the city directly, what are some possible point-to-point operations, maybe something like that, what kind of success happened the key, it is difficult to say some moments or some separate operation, it was a complex of measures that we all carried out, each in its own place, some did it in voznesensk, some did it in mykolaiv . to the delight of the south well, because there are those who, you know, resonant things well, for example, everyone saw that there was a lot
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of equipment destroyed in bashtanka, which there could, uh, could fly more helicopters well, i understand that it is as if a little bit separately and it is more under kherson is key. i think and i thought it was. and i think it was the payment of the people, er, then when they started to attack us, beat us, shoot rockets, send them. they thought they were demoralizing us, but in fact they just paid us, made us angry, and well, here we just became one big family that started to defend our house, all of it, it's the village, it's the city, it's the policeman, it's me, the emergency services, it's a volunteer who fed the soldiers, well, everyone there, people just went out with shovels to help the soldiers dig trenches well, that is, we, uh, that is, they completely blocked the entire city there during the day , roadblocks, lit bottles, and they laughed. well, that
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is, we all showed that no one would give up, that was, well, such a basic attitude in us, uh, that all of us formed a one-on-one formation and we resisted hmm , they also talk a lot, you know, and think about the effect of the defense of mariupol , but you somehow felt that mariupol was fighting so that every point of it affected your cause -and which hostilities were conducted, it influenced on the general situation, on the capture of ukraine, every point is not only mariupol, yes, mariupol is, well, these are heroes, what they did with their actions, uh, well, they gave us a tactical pause, they gave us the opportunity to draw our conclusions there, to regroup the troops there and strengthen the defense, but each and every place was watched
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battles, that's it. well, it fulfilled its function . look, i want to talk a little about something else now. well, maybe about you personally, uh, in what condition are you now, well, actually, the case is against you, because i understand what this is, it's not such a pleasant conversation but for me personally it’s just not clear because it wasn’t closed, did they actually try to call you somewhere again? what’s going on? no, i wasn’t called anywhere, it’s not very nice to talk about it right now, but that’s how it is. 16,000 kits were arrested, they were distributed in the army, this means that there are no problems with them, yes, someone
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admitted that they are really normal and, in principle , there is no longer any dispute. i don't know. why is this case not closed because, well i don't know what we are we will be in court because they prove that if the object in dispute does not already exist, it has been handed out and people in them still do not close their things. well, i think there are some, and some in general, there are some courts, well, i don't know what it is, it has to take place there someday, some do you have any information about this ? no. so far, there is no information. i know that the case has just been suspended and is not closed, but suspended. well, that's right. well, as tatyana chornova was told that, well, we are suspending it for a while while she is fighting. yes, you have a very similar situation. well
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in fact, somewhat cynically it sounds possible the war will end, i will continue to judge, i don’t know what measurements the prosecutors have, tell me, but now the most intense battles are going on, uh, that’s right, uh, near lysychansk, severodonetsk, uh, you see, well, what are they, in fact, what goal are they setting there, how similar is the goal for example , when the battles near mykolaiv were going on, there are combat brigades there, there are experienced officers there, the general staff feels the whole situation, well, i, i, i see it. according to plan
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that can change the situation there and maybe in others , that is, the next few days, because you know, i think that we have come to such a sufficient time. well, it can be difficult such a moment of the war when the first enthusiasm seems to have passed. there have been some successes, the enemy has changed tactics, and people, you know, feel some kind of uncertainty, so he has to provide something, after all, some kind of hope. oh , you understand, that is, any situation, that is, any point can be changed by a counteroffensive from our side, but we have to understand why in order for offensive actions to take place, for this, you need a certain amount of weapons, equipment, the number of personnel and, well, several factors, i think that everyone knows about this and that everything is being built up, that everything
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is being prepared in the coming days. i think that something will change. and this it's about a million, well, what they said there seems to be that zelenskyi said that there are a million people and the army, yes, yes, that's what we 're talking about. there are moments, very good moments, but not much about them i want to say hmm on the air well, i understand yes, because after all you know, they ask questions as if some time had passed, they should have learned, but they started again now , uh, offensive actions and everything is being collected again, uh, bulletproof vests, fairy tales again it started again this this story since you were directly related to this, of course uh well, i would like hmm some kind of your assessment of what here what here needs to be
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done quickly now or it is not necessary already it has already been done so that every combat operation does not start with the fact that we are collecting bulletproof vests and fairy tales well i i think that's all i have drawn all the conclusions of the management and i think that something is happening so that what you are talking about does not happen. well, if it's a feeling. is it just the knowledge that there is already something? well, you look where i don't know on the map and see what it must be. well, that's what i see, what i know, tell me. there is also er well, if we talk about counteroffensive and something like that er, everyone more or less imagines well, not what they imagine, well
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at least that's how they think about the counteroffensive in donbas, but as for crimea, the counteroffensive in crimea is the same chongar, the same, that's all. how much do you believe in the counteroffensive, that is, on crimea? i believe in the counteroffensive. if we prepare well, if we are good enough, if we drive them away, believe me, they will run all the way to russia and they will not have a problem standing, er, crimea is ours, this crimea is not ours, this is your impression of communication with their captives or from the way you look like them they are fighting. i am interested. i am impressed by how our military and our people are resisting. this is how the russians fight. what do you
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think of them? that is, they impressed. they did not impress you. something else, their main as their main composition of their armed forces of ukraine is cattle, this is cattle, how many prisoners were asked there, each prisoner has a mortgage, each prisoner has some kind of loan, children, these are people who have not found themselves somewhere in a normal industry, no found work in normal places, they all went to the army, well, they are the scum of society. to make a new one there, there is some kind of kremlin for something, it’s just cattle that they collected, uh, they promised some kind of state program there, well,
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repayment of their mortgage, here they all took it, they came to crush our land well, i say that there were many such cases when they they just came to the villages and the same prisoners said that in your village, even your grandmother and grandfather have a laptop or mini. she hasn’t had one for 24 years. it’s like it’s only a dream. and in your village, well, in an ordinary village, where is the toilet ? where is the hot water, where is the gas, where is the plasma tv, well, they were hacked, that is, they were not used to this, you know what is now , uh, well, that was the information that uh, near popasny, the protection, uh, the capture of popasny itself, the russian army had already done even not by the forces of regular parts, but there it seems the main role they used to play uh, the former wagner, now they have a different name there, which can be evidenced by the fact that some otakis have already joined there and even shot down
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a plane there, which was also a pvc in agner, that is, these, well, pure mercenaries, somehow they are running out, too, and they are running out of strength and they are running out of people and they are running out of equipment, but they support us and no one supports them, so they are already throwing some and they already have to take something from somewhere and throw it at ukraine in order to , well, to hold their positions, because how do they, i understand that only they will somehow weaken all this counteroffensive and this is a lost lost combat area and how much can it actually be valuable there on the battlefield so it is no longer a secret there is already data
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that they overturn t-62s there with these trains and there are already photos and videos of these formations, taking into account the fact that we understand the degree of corruption they have in the army. i give 99.9% that 80% of this equipment will not start, but if it does, it will not be able to enter the battle, so that's very good. this is a very good sign what if they already use that equipment, this means that our miscalculations are absolutely correct, they run out, they run out of people, they run out of weapons, they run out of everything, that is, such conversations about the fact that it can be straight for years, years, you think no, it’s not about hands no no they they won't pull out this
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soup for years. they won't be able to, well, it's hard for us, and it's even harder for them, then i don't take it for months or six months, well, i don't take it, i don't take it . on august 21, the war will end, well, that's great silly now hmm it will depend on the further hostilities, how the further hostilities will unfold and only they can say there about some plus or minus the approach of some end of this war. now i can't say what it will be, that it will be until the end of the summer or that will be until the end of the year well, i can't say that. and if we say strategically well, and not only strategically
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