by russia, that is, the introduction of an anti-war discount , that is, that the united states as a leader put forward such a proposal that all countries of the world can and have the right to buy russian oil, gas, coal with a discount, it can be 35-40-50%, 60%, that is, for example, the world price of oil is $100 per barrel, and any country, any business, can only buy it for, for example, $50 per barrel, and this is a very technological and easy solution, it is very easy to implement and it will not meet with you in all countries and in india, in china, and even in the same it is much easier for hungary and it will be much better

to act, and half of the difference from such a discount should go to ukraine to pay off the budget deficit and to strengthen our armed forces , and then it will be a source of reparation when we win. apply another effective recommendation. in my opinion, it is to freeze the assets of the central bank of russia, which is about 300 billion dollars and about 50 billion if the money of the oligarchs is collected. work like this, the war is going on, for example, they launched

the rashi missile, minus 100 million of this fund, they launched 10 missiles, 1 billion - the bomb stopped 100 million . the people who make the decisions are very angry, and putin is at the very front. look, the longer the war goes on, the more they export oil and gas, the more money ukraine will receive, and the faster it will lose once and for all, such mechanisms are elementary and simple it is clear that the negotiations on the embargo are not accepted, but discussions are underway. and when it starts to even work, how can they somehow hope that in the meantime it is better to

reorient its potential to the east, and i will say so in two months, even if there will be a complete embargo on russian oil exports to europe. no way . has not already affected russia because it is already technological, in fact, it has rebuilt its exports to the east, india, china, other countries, that is, there is something to do, and our western partners and we need to be told and pressured that they made quick and correct decisions in my opinion, this is the right strategy. if you act like this, then i am sure that in two or three months, the war will end in russia, there will be no financial resources, that is, the funds that she will support at a special price, the discount will not

be enough to cover the cost for you. the cost can cover itself and that’s all and there will be no money for the war and in general, we need to think now and sell the idea of ​​ending the war in 2-3 months with our victory, of course why because if it comes true, that is, if we get an adequate weapons, especially packages and such sanctions, look, in two or three months, we can sit down and develop a new model, we will already cooperate with the burned- out country, and then there will be no energy crisis, we will easily survive the winter in europe and ukraine, because we will dictate models a and what to export to whom, what kind of reparations are you going to pay? well, so far

i don't see such a dynamic. our partners are talking about a long war there until the end of the year. well, then there will be an energy crisis and i would hm . to prepare for the winter, there will be questions. and why do you think that russia is at an undervalued price, because as you yourself said, they have already established exports to the east, and accordingly, well, it may not be interesting for them, especially since they will, in principle, also understand that this means that they have lost those surplus profits which allow you to keep the economy afloat, look at the fact that you cannot reduce gas and oil production in a short period of time, if you do this

, you will simply never recover your potential and therefore they will be forced to sell approximately the same volume. well, maybe a little less, inefficient enterprises will go bankrupt, but due to the fact that all countries will be interested in buying oil and gas at a discount, and the same china and the same india will be aha gendarmerie, the united states will take care of discipline and banks will receive strict instructions not to conduct transactions with russian oil and gas at other prices, including chinese banks. believe me, they are afraid of indian sanctions as well, they are afraid of sanctions no less than european banks, and here this is the

situation, they are in such a model. and the most important thing is that it is very technological, it can be implemented in a week, can you imagine the indicated and now i want to say that china and india buy russian oil with a discount of 35-40%. well, he will buy with a discount of 50 and say thank you. yes, these countries may not transfer ukraine to us. the money is from the difference from this discount. but i am sure that the west can transfer about half to us, and then , as we already talked about, there will be no problems covering the deficit budget and it will be possible to reduce the tax pressure on ukrainian business and western investors, who i am sure will come you don't even imagine if there is an opportunity to earn

additional profits er business is conducted and during the war they will come to us er and we really need it and in general, now is a unique situation when it is possible to develop such an economic model er such a tax system online i repeat which, even after the war, can work for 10 years and make our country, as they say, a paradise for investment and business development, but for this you need a really different kind of strategy . false of course, if it is not done now during the war, when the circumstances are pressing, when there is still some kind of consolidation, then to do it after the war, when the distribution of money, not reconstruction

, etc. you mentioned the budget deficit. i don't know how much it is currently estimated to be. a month ago, minister serhiy marchenko said that in may , the budget deficit is expected to be around uah 200 billion. well, he said up to seven billion . dollars this is a huge amount, a huge gap at the expense of which it will be covered. i am not talking about the fact that there 64.5 billion must be paid only to military personnel who participate in the front line in active combat operations, this is again based on the assessment of the ministry of defense, here are the tariffs already on gas, too, in principle, there is a plug growing, the word is that it is all covered. is it possible to cover it at the expense of the emission of the nbu? well, you are right, and marchenko, in principle, i am calling the true figure, we must prepare that the deficit

will be at the level, remember we argued three percentages of 3.5 or four should be prepared for 50% 10 50% of the budget deficit and indeed to cover the gaps uh and we need western aid, it is now provided, the difference is compensated at the expense of the commission, i.e. state banks buy bonds and they receive loans from the national bank and there is such a uh and a mission that leads in the final development to price increases and to a slight devaluation of the hryvnia, thank god, and that is why the west has now made

a decision at the level of the leading countries and has allocated sufficient funds on paper for in the next three months, that is, we can attract 3-4 billion dollars a month at the expense of the west, in principle, this is enough for existence if we ended the war in months, that is, there would be no major problems, if ukraine quickly began to recover in two and a half years could restore its potential and then increase it, but uh, hmm, there is not enough money, therefore, this very eu will be of very fundamental importance for us, where the question of our denmark's membership in the european union will be considered, if we

accepted uh, it seems like we would receive 1 billion 1 billion per month in budget aid, i’m saying roughly a billion long-term loans per month, and somewhere around a billion can be expected to invest in the ukrainian economy. that is, we would cover half of our needs now the account of our candidate in the european union, and the other half i already told the sources, it is ruscha, yes, these are frozen assets that must be converted into the ukrainian budget, and the oligarchs and the central bank, plus, of course, after our victory, i made calculations, we should somewhere receive three percent of the gdp of russia in the form

of reparations, that is, they should pay us for 10-15 years 3% of their gdp to cover this damage and what they did, unfortunately will be completed in a few months i repeat this on the condition that the war ends in the summer i would like us to have a strategy, a plan in phrases with measures and that we carry it out and it is beneficial for everyone for the whole world yes and for the country itself yes what is left after from it, several e-e neighborhoods e-e will fall away we don't know, but they still need to think about something, and the sooner it all ends, the less they will have to pay reparations, the more

chances they will have to recover. let's reach the level of 2000 in five years. well, that's the situation, oleksandr savchenko, doctor of economics , professor, deputy chairman of the national bank of ukraine in 2005-9 and deputy minister of finance in 2009-10, he was in touch with us right now, he is joining our conversation valery klochok , political and economic expert, head of the e-e charity fund, the new road congratulations mr. valeriy mutual greetings to you, friends. let's start with the fact that the new ambassador of the united states of america is coming to kyiv. bridget brinko received a visa to work in ukraine. european pravda writes about it, and the ambassador of ukraine to the united states, oksana markarova, informed about it. colleague of the new

us ambassador to ukraine, bridget brink, we remind you that on may 19, the united states senate unanimously approved a female diplomat for the position of ambassador of the united states. and the next day, this happened after the united states officially resumed the work of its embassy in kyiv, and before that we note that the united states of america has not had ambassadors in ukraine for three years. let's try, mr. valery, to comment on the meaning of this appointment now, after a three-year break with a full-fledged representation of american diplomacy in kyiv . announced just now, for me this is yet another proof that the usa today is, i cannot say, the only, but decisive factor that proves to me personally that we will be able to defeat russia in a difficult

war, a difficult war, a cruel war. why because taking into account the latest statements of the european union in terms of the sanctions policy, there is no rush to provide weapons, and reports have literally just appeared from the president's office from afar that it is actually already officially known about the supply of rocket launchers from the united states of america. that's it for me to me, this indicates that the usa will be consistent in the issue of providing military aid, this is very important, and the presence of the ambassador is an additional proof of this, because even the return of the embassy of the workers themselves, you remember it it did not happen as quickly as compared to, for example, other embassies. they paid attention for a very long time, and even hmm, the visit of the first lady of the usa to transcarpathia, he probably added to this process something of a different nature from a different time, so for me

personally, it is so, i believe in it because really there, analyzing the situation at the front right now, and the lack of a sufficient amount of heavy weapons, of course we want these processes to move faster, and that's why it 's really very important. of the telephone conversation between the chancellor of germany olaf scholze and the president of france, emmanuel macron, and the president of the russian federation, vladimir putin, they talked about the war in ukraine, the press service of the german government reported about it, and the conversation lasted 80 minutes. well, i would like to hear your opinion about what the purpose was conversations did we manage to achieve it and what were the results? we talked with andrii earlier about the fact that the prime minister of estonia called on world leaders to stop calling putin, so what did she say about the fact that these phone calls to

putin do not make any sense because he receives the message in this way is not yet isolated and in fact, in this way, all the world's pressure on putin is nullified. what do you think about this particular phone conversation? maybe it will really be breakthrough and have a significant result, particularly in the context of the efforts of the diplomatic world to release the defenders of mariupol who are currently in the temporarily occupied territories and in russia, as well as to unblock ukrainian exports grain and food for those countries that need it. and this is another crime committed by russia . i am asking mr. valery. well, there is really such an interesting detail in this negotiation, not the process of the moments, really who initiated this call, because it was chancellor

feren olafsholtz who initiated this call and the president of france, manuel makro, putin was waiting, not waiting for a call, it’s hard for me to say about it, i guess he doesn’t care if they call him or not, he’s doing his own thing, and he’s just trying to physically destroy us, but if to recall the end of macron's presidential campaign, literally. after the official results were announced, he said where he was speculating. by the way , he succeeded in the ukrainian issue in the elections, and this gave him the opportunity to win. he promised that together with olaf scholz, they would come to ukraine, but the time has come. a little yes but until now, we didn't have one or the other, well, at least if i'm wrong about the amendments. of course, it's territorial and most likely because we've already forgotten about it. the invitation sounded that it was supposed to be received optimistically and we were actually waiting for the guests. and the guests are fine. it would be very

important if their visit was here today. well, they ran, they didn't run. they agreed to call putin back. okay, but to the topic of the conversation, the official position issued by and the cream and the german side well, as for me, you only know what they talked about, yes, you can easily list the release of the azov residents. crisis, this is a story that has been pulled by the ears today, as for me, once again, that due to the non-supply of ukrainian grain, we must have everyone will die of hunger and we must immediately unblock it so that we export it of course, it is important for us to export this grain there 20 million a little more in odesa, but friends are now trying to sell our son this pill in this way. they say, hmm, we need to remove sanctions from russia because the whole world will die, of course the situation will be

difficult in the european union against the background of the war in ukraine, but not exclusively because of the grain issue, although it is not the last, but in a territory that is completely different. and that is exactly scholz and macron, as representatives of the old europe, an infantile one who really can’t see anything beyond his nose. what is confirmed by today’s regular bloomberg message about the sixth sanctions package, where will it be, where will the energy embargo be contained, but i already even i can’t call them a bang. this is not even a half-hearted decision. it indicates that, unfortunately, the european union today, i don’t want to generalize, but forced. well, really, not forced. sees a russian threat for itself, only the baltic countries see it, what they talk about quite frankly, poland and everything about it can practically be put to rest, that's why this phone call - you know, it was such a pass into the information field to appease putin and this policy unfortunately , the leaders continue to profess france and

germany, that's what this phone call testifies to me, i have to state only this one, in your opinion, anyway, or this well, the complications are all the same if the war drags on, or is it the unity of the west will continue to fall and what will this mean for ukraine andrii, look at us, we are seeing stories with you first on february 24, if only after the beginning of the bombing, the unity of the european union was at a fairly high level, the sanctions packages , they are consistent, logical, we constantly talked about analytical deception, well, it is not possible well how to fool ourselves and everyone around. what, for example, if we limit the supply of oil by sea in 8 months, it will somehow affect something somewhere someday, well, i'm sorry, but only victims to date in in ukraine, there are tens of thousands of civilians and military personnel. so what do we want to

count millions upon millions? well, in this part, i see that it is absolutely obvious that europe does not agree to sacrifice its own economic interests for the preservation of peace in europe and the restoration of - firstly, i apologize for the restoration of peace in europe. they really do not see this, and this is the main determining issue . quite actively in the background is the spread of information about the content of russians leaving the russian federation, they will not work with it, instead, state business actively continues to remain there. well, we can talk about certain investments from russia, but in general, let's imagine about well, to understand the situation in terms of gas only, yes naftogaz 100 billion per year plus to the budget of the russian federation, well, this is a figure, you just

know. europe pays because it does not see a way out of the situation in any other way, but when you are there, i am reviewing , well, not that it is forced, but it is forced to a certain extent. i am interested in understanding what kind of policy is being carried out inside russia, especially on energy issues. well, english propaganda is actively working there cars tell that europe without russia will simply die, there will be no light, there will be nothing to drive cars on, etc. confirms of course that the number one problem is the diversification of sources of supply, and this should have been dealt with before by everyone, without exception, in the european union. well, for example, the druzhba oil pipeline, which is now being talked about a lot, was built

in the 60s of the last century, but it is actually as you know me, such a clone that appeared after the friendship oil pipeline. it was a gas pipeline, e. they just renamed it and launched it under a new one, and no one saw any problems, supposedly because all the questions are on me, you can’t turn a blind eye to them, just fool everyone. this is not a normal story. and now europe is trying to fool everyone, and first of all, ukrainians, but ukrainians are composed fool me now , when i analyze the general interest of ukrainians in issues that hurt them, it can be noted, for example, from my audience that they are interested in such deep analytical things as the volumes of european funding of the russian budget. well, not primarily interested victory at the front is unequivocally yes, but we must talk about what exactly such things are precisely the

absence of a normal, unified position regarding the energy bar, it actually buys russia for further escalation in ukraine, it is necessary to talk about it every day, the authorities are snowing about it, the opposition is talking about it, without exception, everyone they say and this is very correct, but what is the problem? we cannot break through this information wall, not only in our country, but also in europe, because in europe the issue of information policy is not a priority they don't want to notice it, they continue to broadcast the russian negatives, everything is okay with them, there are no problems for them, and why is it a problem for them, the main task is to provide oil until the end of the year, to provide gas until the end of the year, and just the other day, vitrenko confirmed that the ukrainian storage facilities began to be actively used by european companies that opened gazprombank accounts in rubles to pump

themselves gas for the winter. in this sense, it is necessary to put in place that the price of this energy of european security today is measured by hundreds of thousands of killed ukrainians, by hundreds, not by tens, i can say this in view of the figures announced by the official officials of the mayor of other cities and so on and so on and so on. the safety of europeans and the lives of ukrainians are at stake today, this is also the news of this week, in particular, which was published by the publication welt about the fact that, despite the promise, in nine weeks, germany reduced military support to ukraine to a minimum and practically did not provide weapons, well, it's actually a scandal , because that is, don't look at the world, such an international weekly seems to be the one who published this material. and here, uh, to angela duda, the president of

poland accuses berlin of breaking promises to modern german leopard tanks, says duda, what kind of berlin promised to replace shipments to ukraine , soviet tanks never arrived. well, let's remind you that in march 63% of germans were in favor of supplying heavy weapons to ukraine, the german parliament also voted for it, yes, but the scholtz continues to hesitate and balance, the result of this is one thing. germany does not supply weapons to ukraine. in your opinion , why exactly? first of all, secondly, how can this change in the near future under the pressure of society and how will it affect german politics itself, because we see that in there are already more and more dissatisfied people in germany with the policies of chancellor olaf scholtz. well, you know, there are also

some who are not satisfied with, for example, the policies of biden in the united states of america, because there too his support is falling against the background of the fact that it will help ukraine, well, of course, the situation is somewhat less money will be allocated to the residents, to the citizens of the country, well, in germany, history also fluctuates plus or minus there, uh, it's not accidental, and you, too, there is a secret for you, i won't reveal that the countries of eastern europe, which are in the world and which are members of the european union, are more sensitive well, for example, in just three days, 5 million euros were collected in lithuania for the purchase of bairaktar. well, this is a true indicator, but people feel it, but in germany they are somehow not in a hurry, well, they nod at the government for the castor, and the chancellor just closed his eyes and that's it. the other the story is about the supply of cheetahs. and the story about the supply of spike anti-tank missile complexes, which directly depends on israel, here who is he

, and here germany is allegedly to blame, and israel, well, also in this regard, we must talk about the fact that today you were drawn, you know, a kind of neutral type the coalition in relation to the war in ukraine, which includes germany, france, italy, which gives with one hand and takes away with the other. sorry, turkey currently solves only its own issues at our expense. although i can't help. drop, well, drop weighted and germany really helps, but you know, you can give a ruble and take it back for two, as, for example, today they say that they liberated, for example, the russians liberated mariupol, yes, from whom. that is, it all comes from such a distortion, and really, today, you need to understand the weight of what i thank you for talking about the aid provided, which was adequate in the ukrainians' ability to repel the armed aggression of russia, i certainly do not discount the fact that we