the statement of the synod of the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate said that it was your religious policy that led to the consequences that we have in relation to this church and to the war. well, there were such people personally. i understand what to thank this church for, because similar attention to mine a modest operating room from the synod of the hostile kadebi association is like a hero of ukraine, and for me you know i don't know for sure whether i deserved it, but if they already recognize it, it's not for nothing that the only issue we raised kirill blessed the killing of ukrainians blessed not just the war and did not react to the genocide in buch in mariupol in chernihiv in okhtyrka in gostomel in vorzel in irpin i saw it with my own eyes and

the lack of reaction means that we live in different worlds and it is absolutely natural for every ukrainian to listen there is no need to demand the destruction or liquidation of the church. i respect people who have found such a way to god to god. i believe that i can look for others, but i treat ukrainians with respect, but i definitely do not accept when in our to the country, any church prays for the health of this murderer, i definitely do not accept and do not understand why the national security and defense council has not applied sanctions against kirill, i definitely do not understand why the ministry of foreign affairs, the security and defense council did not appeal to us and uh, in the end the top leadership of the state did not appeal to the leadership of the

european union regarding the application of european and american sanctions against the top leadership of the church, because these are, so to speak, tools of psychological warfare, which is an integral part of the russian authorities, a harmful part of the russian ministry of defense, and therefore if this is the assessment of my principled position, i want to thank you, we are on the right path, you talk about the senselessness of negotiations with putin. hours, if you don't mention the minsk processes, he was not capable of a contract even then. is it some kind of inconsistency and meaninglessness of the negotiations with putin ? nations that would seek peace more than us ukrainians

. i say not to believe putin, that's how i understood it. thank you. i say not to be afraid of putin, because if you believe or are afraid, you will lose these negotiations. integrity no, it does not correspond to the constitution, these negotiations will never be accepted by the ukrainian people, or can it be the subject of uh, let's say uh, the position regarding the surrender of national interests, no, but my experience says that we should divide these negotiations into two parts, the first part do not go beyond three things, the first thing is a ceasefire, the second thing is the withdrawal of troops, the third thing is humanitarian problems, including humanitarian corridors and the release of hostages , the ceasefire is a problem, even so, do not

go any further to ensure the withdrawal of troops, a ceasefire and the release of prisoners and then when putin will raise the question that he is allegedly worried about the flight time and guarantees of russian security, please ukraine is ready for very creative designs to ensure russian security for us we don't need these creatives, because our creativity regarding our security is ukraine's membership in nato. there is no alternative to this. do you remember that putin said that he attacked because there were threats of nato's rapprochement with russia? please excuse me in the 14th year at the beginning of the year when he attacked ukraine , it was a neutral state, we were not talking about any founding legislative or constitutional documents about our future membership. and when now sweden and finland will join nato already this year, russia's nato border will increase significantly and

uh, the distance from finland is much shorter than the distance from germany, france or spain. putin has closed his eyes and is not commenting on anything because this is not a nato issue, it is a question of ukrainian sovereignty . finland as a state can enter wherever you want, and i absolutely and here vitaliy, you asked the question absolutely correctly do you know why? because it is very difficult to negotiate with putin, because the subject of negotiations is now black and white. putin denies ukrainians the right to life when the russian barbarians from the kpvt on armored personnel carriers open fire against a bus on which children are clearly marked and only mothers and their children are inside. so they do not provide any security for russia and

they were killed either in mariupol or in buch just because they are ukrainians. so, friends, where is the compromise, he wants to kill us we want to live where there is a compromise. we want to live in the ukrainian state so that the thousand-year-old ukrainian state exists. and he says that he denies us the right to our own state. he says that it was created by lenin. he said it for the first time this year. article in the 13th year, we did not hear such things , did we? now we did not hear this before the aggression. we ukrainian people are unique world solidarity with ukraine we

are ukrainians and why did this happen? i am not looking for the influence of some personalities here. is it all a lie? putin was stopped by cambria and kambati. i would very much like ukrainians to know their names, because we already have 8,000 you can ask the awarded persons who ukrainians know, the list will be very short, but i knew these people when they were still company commanders, battalion commanders in the 14th, now they have been brought up, this is a new generation, it was brought up on nato standards and it beats the russian armed forces, which are 10 times larger. received 10 times more funding, who have more ammunition, who have more artillery, more than anything, and they cannot do anything with us, and everyone has their own mission . today in lviv, i brought another batch of equipment

for the command of the airborne assault troops. we provide anti-tank units of the airborne assault troops now we are switching to artillery and there is something that we can make helmets and body armor unloading uh even weapon elements pokemon sniper rifles and still other things well we can't give artillery we don't we can give airplanes we can't give air defense we can't give tanks armored cars we can already but there's a horse but they won't win the war without artillery air defense missiles planes and that's the task of the state today to ensure that it is armed precisely with this armed forces ukraine, and then when we have a sufficient amount of artay ammunition, the nature of the war will change and we can already

talk about the counteroffensive, because the state must protect its people, just as there is now a question of economic protection against unemployment, we must speak honestly with the people and propose that we we will do the same as protection against exchange rate policy against inflation, protection of those who are forced migrants, motivation for the return of people from abroad, these are challenges to which ukraine must prepare answers not after victory. and now what for this we need unity, transparency and international solidarity, she stayed literally for two minutes, i would like to ask you, you know what, why did you say that people who are now in the occupied territories and cannot leave are under such pressure from the occupiers, people who lost their homes, who lost loved ones because of this war there are a lot of victims right now people are going through all these tragedies they often

write to us and it is very difficult to find the words first i want to apologize apologize for what on february 24, the ukrainian state was not ready for offensive actions, but we are correcting these mistakes very quickly. second, i want to say that we will definitely return, as we returned in the 14th year, when the armed forces of ukraine and i was the supreme commander of the armed forces of ukraine, we released two a third of the occupied donbass, including mariupol, in north donets, lysichan, slavyansk, kramatorsk, konstantinenko, and all these things that we have now, we will return to next time. and

thirdly, you no longer have any illusions. they saw with their own eyes that this is russian peace russian peace is not taught by poisonous people people, i want to say one thing, we will return, the truth is with us, ukraine will win, ukraine will restore territorial integrity , there will be no other talks and then he will be behind bars in this case, i believe in it, please believe it too

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business partner is on fire after one sortie and also disappeared. do you think it is more profitable for them that ukraine wins or that they just made peace somewhere in the middle ? i will honestly tell you that i do not know why kolomoiskyi disappeared but here everyone has to draw their own conclusions and, uh, he appeared only once when one of the bloggers talked about meeting him in the dnipro, when he was openly happy that the airport, which was the subject of his conflict, had been destroyed. we the city of dnipro is filatov i do not understand why kolomoisky turned out to be the only one of the oligarchs who does not comment on any events after february 24, 2022, i do not understand why a person who flaunted his publicity from 2019 to 2022 and gave interviews

to all the journalists he saw whom we saw and tried to see in order to give an interview seems to be a copy of his own work and a copycat. kolomoisky gave an interview here when i am an obvious person who, by the way, in 2014 was the head of the administration of the dnipropetrovsk region during the first russian invasion how he got water in his mouth, this is something incredible. for me , this is very strange, i explain it by the fact that kolomoisky has no other way out than to live in this ukraine , which is and will be, as it was not, because there is no place for him in all other countries of the world. tried to build ukraine for himself, this explains his political activity in 2019 as a harbor shelter for himself, and it turned out that this is not a very comfortable shelter, that this shelter is being attacked by russian invaders, that the people whom he politically supported are now in charge of this struggle with the russian occupiers, and there is

always a fairly simple question. and what will happen next, what will be his fate, what will be the american influence in ukraine, then it is obvious that the influence of the united states, if they want to help us not only now , but also after the victory, should lead to the complete deprivation of ukraine from the legacy of corruption well, of course, these people against whom the united states announced sanctions are personal and they are the ones being investigated. these are not the people who can have ukraine as a refuge, and this is absolutely obvious the thing is that in this uh-uh in this pupil i think we understand that kolomoisky cannot feel comfortable, but good afternoon, germany does not supply weapons, why does everyone know that russia will not stop uh-uh in ukraine. i think

she talked about this or at the beginning of our conversation, mrs. yuliya klymenko, what does she say when she talks to western politicians, they see it as a local conflict, and i also don't want us to deceive ourselves with certain things that, in principle, may not be at least those things that the west today does not sees and we have to discuss this with you realistically. we always say that we are defending the civilized world because the european union and nato countries will be next, but this may not be the case at all. nato differs from other defense alliances in that it is a defender with nuclear weapons that as many as three nato states have nuclear weapons, the united states , great britain, france, russia knows very

well the conflict between russia and the nato states, an open conflict is something we can talk about with you, of course, but it is very conditional on the territories of nato member countries. nothing is happening and may not happen. we always say that it was a huge mistake not to join nato and if we were in nato, we would not have a war now. and this is true , but we cannot at the same time say that if we if we had not joined nato, there would be no war on our land and we would not have to convince nato countries that they are next after us, because it is similar and the question arises why did we have to join nato for our own security if we were attacked anyway ? those countries that did not want to see us there is no logic in that, of course, if we were in nato, there would be no war, nato is an effective defense union , that's why i say all the time that uh, we have to fight

for nato, it is necessary that this is the guarantee of our security in the future membership nato also has territorial integrity, but let's look at it through the eyes of nato member countries, who are sure that nothing will happen on their territory, or will russia really pose a greater danger if, say , ukraine absorbs belarus, moldova, the answer is no, now empires are not measured by territories and economic power, namely the real potential and precisely what is happening with these countries from the point of view of the growth of their potential with the latest technologies, etc., etc., if there are 10 regions in the modern russian federation, nothing will change, you understand. so nothing for the west and for

russia, by the way, the west he is helping ukraine not because he believes that he is next, but because he believes that the international law that they have must be preserved and that the international order cannot be undermined. the west stands up for its own sovereignty because russia they also demanded from him to abandon the very principle of nato expansion, that is, they encroached on the sovereignty of member countries over to a tactical nuclear strike on the territory of ukraine, because no one still fully understands how to respond to this or whether nuclear states should respond to the use of nuclear weapons on the territory of a non-nuclear states or should they just intensify the fight against

this nuclear state by non-nuclear means with the help of this state that has suffered a nuclear attack quite simply i will not say that i think that this delay in supplying weapons is correct but if you want to understand this logic understand it and stop eventually to tell ourselves that nato is next and russia. no, no, russia's next goal is to unite those countries of the former soviet union that did not join us. latvia, lithuania, estonia are not threatened by anything, but finland, sweden threatened, so they want to get to us, it threatens those countries that want to defend themselves against the nuclear states of authoritarian russia or the people 's republic of china on their own. they have a problem. and the state that created a defense union under the nuclear umbrella of the united states of america, great britain and france does not have such problems, but we in

completely different situations than our neighbors in central europe, in completely different situations and we will be in those other situations until we join nato, there may be wars, conflicts, destabilization on our lands depopulation, industrialization, they have another danger. by the way, that is why they should not help us, which we talked about with ms. julia, the migration crisis, the appearance of millions of refugees from african and asian countries, this is also destabilization, this is not an atomic bomb, but this is a migration bomb, this is a serious problem about this problem can also be told how warring countries, even with imperfect institutions , civil society can influence the government. it seems that civil society is quite active during the war in many of its manifestations

, including when we talk about official arbitrariness, we also help the state when we talk about corruption moments. so i don't see any uh-uh problems in this quality work of civil society during the war, this was the case in all democratic countries, only in authoritarian countries people were gagged to simply turn them into cannon fodder in ukraine, not so in democratic countries during the second world war the war was not like that, believe me, what is the real reason why poroshenko was not allowed to attend the nato summit? i do not know the real reason why poroshenko was not allowed to attend the parliamentary assembly . i have already said many times that i consider this to be just an ordinary sabotage, an attack on the national unity of ukraine, which is so important for us to demonstrate. it is precisely on the international arena that ukraine-moldova helps us. georgia is a country that russia dreams of joining. what are the prospects of their joining the

eu, the first friend of nato, is it really possible to do it quickly first of all, i think that these priorities need to be rearranged, the order of things is first nato, then the eu, it must be clearly said, because no accession to the eu will protect us from aggression, well, you also need to realize this and not make up any things about joining the eu even if you imagine that ukraine-moldova and georgia receive the status of candidate members of the european union, you must remember that in the best situation of negotiations, simply stepping into the eu continues from 10 to 15 years, at least there 8-10, at most 15 years, but there are countries that are waiting for 34 like turkey but they are not get into such a situation, they will join that the procedure will be accelerated, it will also take at least

80-10 years. poland has been waiting for 15 years if we take the idea of ​​accelerated procedures and the average waiting time of a central european country such as poland or bulgaria or romania, we will most likely get a term of 10 years if ukraine becomes a peaceful state during this time and there will be no problems with it security, this period will not decrease but will increase to 15 years, in principle realistically from the time ukraine receives the candidate to become a member of the european union until actual membership if we receive the candidate in june, i still have big doubts about this, but i really want it, about 15 years will pass realistically the country will join the european union in the period between 2035 and 2040 because it will be necessary to close a huge number of issues of an economic and political nature. i

hope that we will successfully do all this more it is necessary when our politicians talk about speeding up the procedure. it seems to me that they do not really understand what they are talking about. poland joined the european union for so long, not even because they did not want to take it, but because it did not agree to certain conditions, say, related to restrictions the functioning of polish agriculture, if ukraine joined the european union a year later on the same agricultural conditions that were offered to poland at the time, this meant a close reduction of ukrainian agricultural of products somewhere by 40-50%, that you simply understood the reality. that is why we need to talk about it for years, seek subsidies, understand what part can be compensated by the european union, the lighthouse cannot, it can be a common market, you understand, for competition is balanced, so in this sense, do not expect

fast here i believe that joining nato is 1000 times more important than joining the european union, first of all, because without joining nato, we simply will not get into any european union, we will spend 10 years preparing for of european accession to the european union and to fight to keep some territories to win back to be lost, no one will even talk about our european perspective. by the way, georgia and moldova, which are also countries with occupied territories of russia, and this also applies to their european perspective. who, if they gather, will keep these conflict issues with remain rather ghostly well, what does this mean, it means that the main thing that must be manifested is the political will of the west. this is the will that is being manifested now towards sweden finland should be shown to ukraine, moldova, and cargo, this is help to restore territorial integrity, it can be a different toolkit, but

we are talking about our russia, i will no longer dictate my language in the case of moldova, georgia, it does not necessarily have to be military actions, it has to be international conferences and international agreements that will ensure the restoration of the territorial integrity of these countries or the solution of how these territories will function that are not currently controlled by illegitimate governments in their pockets there may be different instruments, but the main thing is that the territorial conflicts have been resolved - once the accession of ukraine and georgia to nato, two, and if moldova wants it, a guarantee of the sovereignty of moldova from the neighboring countries of romania and ukraine, so that the sovereignty of moldova as a single state with restored territorial integrity is guaranteed by its neighbors and in this way russia's interference in the internal affairs of the republic of moldova was ruled out, it can also be a tool as a neutral

state, and after that i hope that it can to happen quickly and i would like this to happen and for you and i to breathe a sigh of relief because i was relieved just when i saw the ukrainian flag near the nato apartment, i would like to see the georgian flag there. to be honest, i would like to see the flag of the republic of moldova there. however, i am not a citizen the republic of moldova, the citizens of the republic of moldova long ago made a choice in favor of neutral status . the integrity of building a market economy and actively destabilizing processes that are trying to launch the russian occupier there. and this applies, by the way, not only to destabilization in the territory of

transnistria, which was occupied by them in the early 90s of the last century, but also to destabilization at the cost of the role of pro-russian political forces at the head with the former president of this country, igor dodon, you know that he was in fact the only european politician who recognized the russian status of crimea and did not give up this idea even after that, i was elected president of the republic of moldova, so i did not meet any of the presidents of ukraine during his term of office, neither petro poroshenko nor volodymyr zelenskyi. they never invited president dodon to kyiv and did well. and now this person has been arrested for 90 days in is suspected of national treason and it is obvious that the investigation may reveal episodes of his close cooperation with the real enemies of the republic of moldova under the administration of the president of russia and the russian security forces that, as you correctly asked in your question, the kremlin wants to occupy not only ukraine.

it also wants to occupy the republic of moldova. this is one of its tasks, respectively, all other questions. when will we meet next time? thank you for being with me on this broadcast. to your colleagues, irina koval, who will introduce you to the news release for this hour, please, and civilians, and there will also be new information about how many russians died in our country