tv [untitled] May 30, 2022 11:30am-12:01pm EEST
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in the temporarily occupied crimea, the so-called authorities are going to remove the study of the english language from the school curriculum as dangerous for students, well, this is actually a shock, denisov writes about the fact that the occupiers have been carrying out a policy of degrading the education system for a long time and actually also increasing the volume of propaganda in the educational process, e emphasized that article 29 of the un convention on the rights of the child and article 50 of the 49th geneva convention on the protection of the civilian population in time of war are thus violated. well, she called the un ombudsman commission should actually take into account these facts of crimes and violations of children's rights mrs. maria well, what can we say about these processes, we see that the occupiers are already trying to spread these schemes to other temporarily occupied territories and cities, in particular in mariupol, are planning to introduce these schemes in crimea, in general, they are planning to create so
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-called retraining camps for teachers from the kherson, kharkiv, zaporizhzhia regions to transfer to russian standards of education, that is, concentration camps for teachers where they will be taught it's correct to teach it's a shock actually uh actually yes thank you for paying attention to this aspect because really uh we are receiving a lot of information about let's say this the intensification of propaganda a-ah in crimea that is, you know, it's even difficult to call it propaganda because it's, well, it a real information war, an information and psychological war waged by russia, including against the citizens of ukraine in crimea and against children, which is very important and for good reason, you know, the fighting in the kherson region has not yet subsided, and they are already trying to retrain again in in other words, we understand how important this propaganda work is for them, we know that in crimea for a long time, immediately after the beginning
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or after a certain time after the beginning of the occupation , such a structure as the youth army was created, so where do they recruit children, militarize children, in essence, brainwash them since childhood, being forced let's say to be loyal russian soldiers there and so on. and what is important to say here, apart from the facts that you drew attention to, first of all, we see that some methodical materials from schools reach us and we see that these methodical materials are essentially translated into some kind of school language about putin's languages, yes, yes, those who say that ukraine does not exist, there is no ukrainian nation, yes, there is no political one, so let's say that this is a failed state. and that's all of you, all of these they simply put narratives into children's heads, and we know of some cases where people who are actually ukrainians, who waited for the
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occupation of crimea all these years, are now leaving crimea through russia to the countries of the european union because they simply want to to protect children from this very, very toxic influence, because it is very difficult to resist it while being inside it, the more we understand for the children's psyche, and what is remarkable is this. that there is no fascism in ukraine, and she received administrative responsibility for it. yes, maria, it may soon be like that, so what do you say that the earth is round, this will already be a punishment in the russian system of education thank you very much, maria was ready to be with us e skype a-a now we add to our conversation the co-owners of e-e restaurants, a musaffer to everyone known e-e a very cool person of my friend who had a sanctuary
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"became a place where crimean tatars, ukrainians, military volunteers, etc. gather and uh, very cool work, uh, of the entire team, and you already said it, you know. i really like to go to musafir restaurants in kyiv. let's actually remind you that we are safir, which translates as guest. so , i am often a guest there, and one of the goals of the establishment is to introduce visitors to crimean tatar kitchen. and it works for me. because every time we go in, we'll introduce this marathon. i've been so hungry since seven in the morning, and we're already starting to dream about some kind of goodies
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. and actually, when we announce the name of our marathon, that it's a joint marathon espresso and the crimean tatar tv channel rtr. i can already smell the aromas of antiques in the air, they are so, uh, not fried chebureks, they are very healthy, not in oil, but actually dry pans with various fillings and kefir-tomato sauce, and every time we start our marathon, i sit like this, i think hmm what nice smell uh, we'll take care of you, we won't talk about food, now i understand mlv, you can't talk about food, because uh, it immediately reminds me of your kitchen, it's really wonderful . how are you, what's he doing now, what are his priorities , uh, what's planned. and your volunteer activities and the fact that you just work as a business, that is, because taxes also have to be paid, people have to work. this is what is on your mind right now
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. we have a volunteer program that is normal business program many workers have returned many kyivans have returned therefore now yesterday was the day of kyiv there were long queues for us to other institutions that is, places of return are returning to normal life and we are returning eh hmm next to him we will say yes please tell me this is exactly what you have there are people who now we just talked about the children with maria tomyk, our previous guests, that they in crimea just want to ask for forgiveness. maim children in reality and what do your friends in crimea say, how do schools work, what do
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teachers tell children there, how do parents cope with this, because we understand that crimean tatar families have completely different conversations and a completely different mood than, well, it's actually a horror for a child and for the parents. to be honest, from our crimean tatars side, i have not heard that there is someone who has influence there and constantly works from school and television, newspapers. that is, there is such an informational ghetto, let's say. but from our side, i have not heard that this interferes with them in any way because i don't know we we were used to living in the ghetto, it wasn't very good for us, even by invitation, i'm talking about the soviet er-er times ago. there are people who exist in
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any environment. i think for us, it is less of a problem than for others. what, uh, in recent weeks , have you heard about the mood of the people in the crimea, because it is also really this ghetto. we can't place geology there, no . trust no sociology even there conditionally there independent nothing can be trusted only hear the people who are there like this, we also heard maria mentioned that doctors are sent there to the front by the dpr of the lpr, the so -called clinics there they receive the wounded , these katsapian scum, etc. well, that’s how the war in crimea feels, according to your observations through communication with your people, whom you know. what do people think about, well, first of all, of course, the kremlin. i understand that you communicate mainly with our people, well, among our
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people, with whom we communicate, there is a lot expectation that in some way now it is difficult to try to expect something and it is very dangerous to say anything about it, that is why there is such a thing as a silent action, i do not see that there is any discussion of this loudly or so, but i am very interested in what happens, there is a very great expectation that somehow it will reach the liberation of crimea, that is, ours are exceptions for sure, but our environment. i am sure that they are waiting for ukraine to accumulate strength and we will fight crimea in the near future. well, here i would like to refer to these statements that were made in in the information field regarding crimea in the last few days, president volodymyr zelenskyi e.e. stated in
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an interview with the dutch channel nos that crimea and the occupied territory of donbass since 2014 should be returned by diplomatic means after entering the borders as of february 24, 2022, at the same time a little earlier the head of the main directorate of intelligence of the ministry of defense, budanov, said that by the end of this year, the armed forces of ukraine should enter the crimea. well, i dream, to be honest, to visit your updated and restored facility in bakhchisaray after the deoccupation crimea and in which way do you personally believe more, the diplomatic way, or by releasing the armed forces of ukraine by deoccupying the military, we will be able to return our territories, it is difficult for us to say at the moment, i believe more in the diplomatic way, because well, imagine how this war can reach crimea, how can we it is difficult to fight there now, but everything
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is changing, that is, maybe a few weeks ago, when the russians were fleeing from kyiv, there was such an expectation. what is it like? that is, we are starting to win. now we see that it may not have been exactly like that. regrouping and so on, and this war is very difficult if we come out, well, this is my personal opinion , if we come out on the verge of the beginning of this war this year, it will be a defeat for russia and there will be a very difficult process and for them and i believe that with these processes the diplomatic path can happen much, much faster than we expected, let's say before this war, but it is necessary to reach this frontier, we must defeat them in the south . now it is very difficult to speak how it will be, i think that our expectations do not
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go there before the war, we will see the rest after the exit to the crimea, but for now i think that the first task is to deal with these challenges that we are grappling with now, which is the ukrainian army, the armed forces of ukraine, ukrainian society i'm cringing now, i do n't know what to say well, it's not nice for us to talk and think about the term here because the war is going on right now fierce battles are there, people, including the crimean people, are fighting and i'm in touch with them it's very difficult really very difficult difficult the moment when i i hear there by the end of the year, not by the end of the year, well, it’s just, well, in my opinion, i don’t take it seriously, maybe it’s part of it, counter propaganda , etc., but in fact, all this will not be as fast as we all want less i think that nadia nadia has increased more recently and nervousness on the part of the occupiers too, i don’t know how you feel, but they tell me how nervous they are there, and
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they say that they are even approaching the crimean tatars in the future, it seems that there will be more. stay go no no well a little confused it's actually good well, it is also worth noting that for the russians, who from the very beginning of the occupation of crimea by russia, perceived crimea as a resort gifted to them by putin . so, this year they were expected to be disappointed, because here is the latest news from the russian federation about the vacation of russians in crimea. about the fact that in may, about six fewer vacationers from russia came to crimea than usual, and in the summer it will be even worse because moscow has actually turned the peninsula into a huge military hospital, and the owners of hotels and restaurants are in despair because russians simply do not go to crimea. andriy klymenko , editor-in-chief of the ukrainian publication blackzy news, which specializes in black sea topics
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, explains that the specialized resorts in yevpatoria , isaks, which traditionally specialize in musculoskeletal problems, are filled with wounded soldiers of the occupation army, and with terrible wounds, they are military occupiers without arms without legs and what a joy for people to rest uh, if, well, in fact, this is the situation at these resorts, yes . and besides, a huge military airfield a huge naval base is around yevpatoria and around sak, respectively, the russians feel that the armed forces of ukraine can start an offensive from day to day . its own citizens, how do you generally look at these processes, it is very difficult to talk about russia, about the government of russia, about the fact that they are
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somehow doing these things rationally, that is, they deeply do not touch tourism in crimea, to do something there and so on, but they did not do anything they had a great influence and almost the crimean situation in abkhazia for how many years and there were ruins there as well in the northern session as well as in any other city where they were so i don't think that it is somehow an exception for them there effective economic managers and state they do what they do, that is, they went out to build there, as they say, they are not carried by air, but there is some kind of peace resort and so on. thank you, mr. kemal, we can only say that uh, whatever way we found a military or diplomatic way, but it is necessary to return crimea as soon as possible so that when we return it, we recognize our native peninsula simply every day this is the pain of specific people, they are burning, prison , imprisonment, torture, the fact that it is not just like that thank you, thank you, my friend, slava began to dine, the co-owner
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of the network, the traveler was in touch with us and we already have the next guest of our broadcast on the line mamuka mamulashvili, a military man, the founder and commander of the georgian national legion, congratulations, mr. moguko, mamuka, i am very glad to see you. here we go with you to the topic of the front, the topic of battles we talked here about the possible options for the liberation of crimea, return to ukraine, diplomatic, military, military aid, other, you as a fighter, as a person who also lost part of his homeland, his homeland before . in georgia, you know, it is unlikely that a plasma version of the resolution of the conflict or diplomatic resolution is being considered, because after the event
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they showed us that we cannot negotiate with russia, both in georgia and in ukraine. the only resolution in my opinion is that it is simply a military way to take back the occupied territories. tell me, please. well, i won't reveal a big secret that my mother's sister, mrs. nonashvili, is a member of the parliament in georgia, and the head of the international committee parliament how do you think the attitude of the georgian leadership has changed before our war, well, absolutely not after, my sister very often has to come into conflict with the georgian government and a member of the parliament said that ukraine started a war and because of that, this is the story of the conflict, because
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it is quite complicated. unfortunately, the only way is parliamentary elections and re-elections of the georgian government. your brothers and we all know this, we are proud of you, we are very grateful to you. please tell me from which side the most support comes to you. who helps you or does your homeland help you in any way ? how does it support, if you can say, it supports us, we have
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a completely popular mandarin, and today we are considered the ambassadors of georgia in ukraine, because the georgian embassy, how the georgian government is fulfilling the will of the people of the georgian people, so that we we are fully supported by the people, and unfortunately we are not fully supported by the georgian government today. the enemy is now constantly trying to forcibly mobilize men to participate in the war on the side of russia as cannon fodder in the temporarily purchased temporarily occupied territories of ukraine, and here is what is happening in this direction, mr. mylashvili in the occupied republics of ossetia and abkhazia, share good information , the situation is rather complicated because, as far as we understand, russia is trying to cut a new bulk of the conflict, they are holding a referendum, and they will
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hold a referendum on the so-called ossetia, and, in principle, this can already cause a military conflict, a referendum on the description of russia, please tell me, even then, if it happens, how you say and that the georgian government will say that everything is normal, that is, the main thing is not to quarrel with russia, they do not make political decisions about the situation, and they are declared and adhere to the policy of silence, what is really happening today on the territory of georgia, also every day they kidnap the citizens of georgia on the line of contact and also keep silent about what is happening unfortunately, the other day, the president of georgia, the village of medza lyubeshivili, made a statement that the country will not use the war in ukraine to return its territories captured by russia through military means, about this echo of the
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caucasus reported and says that it was disinformation that advocated for rubeshvili in tbilisi's freedom square on the occasion of the country's independence day. and what do georgians actually think about this? the georgian people and the georgian government are radically different and the georgian people in their big stepan state ukraine vystuplenii took a statement that about georgia supports ukraine and tell me, please, as a military man, can you assess the state of the georgian army at the moment unfortunately, we are recruiting guys from
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georgia for 8 years during these 8 minutes about recruiting professional military er, almost the entire army, professional officers, they go abroad to georgia and er, look for work in europe, and er, this day organizes practically the georgian army. i thought that today it is not in the form it is in eh can fight against russia, but eh, the attitude in the population itself is militant, like i was, practically always, eh, please tell me about what you can tell, of course, well, it’s just really interesting, i haven’t talked for a long time, what is your battalion now, which one can i need you, what do i want to say on behalf of myself and your soldiers, in principle? well, today, we are forming the armed forces of ukraine, and
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we are the largest foreign unit at the moment, and we are recruiting. absolutely guys, having left today to fight for ukraine, er, i would say that after er, the armed forces became part of the armed forces, in principle, many problems disappeared, and logistics. so, well, we have a special operations group that continues i am doing what i have been doing for almost eight years quite uh quite well began to work on the 96th, that is, the month of kiagression on the part of the armed forces of ukraine on the part of the ukrainian people and on the side of the
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partners of ukraine friends so how do you assess how the situation looks in your eyes as of now and how it can develop in the near future sometimes we see that we have er well, we are actually in a rather difficult period, this difficult period may continue for some time er, you know, i didn't know can we be called positive, but we practically win all ground operations for you our only one our the weak place is airspace and this is the lack of this weapon, well, let's say it's mlrs of jet fire systems that were supposed to be delivered to ukraine and the process of delivery is still getting delayed hmm we are waiting for the specifics that we need today i'm sure that after receiving the necessary numbers and figures, we will very quickly be able to change the picture on the lines of the fronde
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and the russian army to the civilian population. was it the same in georgia during the russian war of aggression? please share your thoughts, but we didn't see anything. which was in georgia in the 90s will be in 2008 , and we see that the russian army is again at war with the civilian population more than with the military. for the peaceful population, it remains the same. well , for centuries i wanted to ask you. well, it is really a great honor, eh, that the georgian number of georgian soldiers, of all foreigners, let's say so, is the largest in the armed forces, and you are united, motivated, eh, you are very good fellows, eh- eh a or eh would be in
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you have an opportunity to talk, for example, with the belarusians , is it with these battalions, belarusian, or maybe i don’t know, it’s like that, with a battalion that is made up of russians. i know of cases where people from russia come to ukraine to fight in such and such ways, and it’s difficult but they are added to this battalion freedom of russia, for example, what can you say about it? a battalion not with a unit if такое есть i heard it but didn't see it ok, then on the other hand i'll ask na na did you see it, well, what can you say about those representatives of the caucasian peoples who are fighting from degestan there from chechnya from
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ingushetia from the same half of the northern session who fight for the russians and will die instead of the russians are a mess. i don't know who they are in your opinion. they are georgia's neighbors, they are still very close. and how come people go to ukraine to kill people which are not familiar to them in which they did not interfere with anything for such people, what are the mankurts going to m.m. contact we had m.m. всё прикосновение we had a minimal touch, we
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did n't communicate with them, but-oh-oh, a touch. on kavkaze-gadaty and uh, these people cannot be considered caucasians, we do not consider them caucasians, then they became the first of the georgian legion. well, by the way, it is interesting about the war crimes of the russians, now ukrainian investigators and prosecutors are actively collecting them with the help of international investigators and prosecutors, and in particular, a few days ago, the european union , the united states, and great britain announced the creation of another advisory group on heinous crimes. the fixation and further responsibility for the crimes of the russian army. and actually, the tribunal, so the idea of such a tribunal for putan war criminals has already been expressed and supported by the parliamentary
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assembly of the council of europe, the european union, the united states of america, great britain, have these facts of military war crimes committed by russians in georgia been recorded, and can a joint war to grow into a joint jump for mariupol for the kyiv region over the years for the crimea and for georgia, in your opinion, you know more elephants and in georgia they were recorded it is not the evil of the russian army, they speak softly, it's just the process of the very filtration, that's the knowledge. it always takes a long time and it's a rather bureaucratic process. unfortunately, in 2008, after the transfer of files on war criminals to georgia,
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and the absolute majority of russian war criminals were not punished a-a after this in the international criminal court. yes, mr. malevich, the judge, and unfortunately a-a the reactions to him еще не было ето корпуция на мой взглад это бурокрация которые очень и от most european countries. thank you, my friend, send a big greeting to your brother to your sister, a brave , er, very brave woman who fights for the dignity of er, her country at the political level, and mamuka and his brothers, they are just very, very cool guys. thank you, show me the commander of the georgian national legion, and i know and believe that all these facts of russian war crimes that have been accumulating for ten years in the international criminal court. they have the most
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