opa and you are not the truth, it will go to the end with you. thank you. well, for this brilliant analysis on the air of the espresso tv channel's informational marathon, remis yunu , an american political scientist, an expert in international politics, worked for you. dear tv viewers of the espresso tv channel. let's move on to e-e analysts already point moments the families of the defenders of mariupol gave a briefing on the protection of their rights in captivity and in exchange here is what the relatives of the defenders answered the question is it true that someone from the defenders were taken to chechnya, let's listen , see about who was taken away and so on, these are elements of russian propaganda, ah, we are not aware of such cases, no one informed us. as far as we know, no one was taken anywhere. they are located there, where they were transported from azov. on may 20, if i'm not mistaken or

on the 19th, i don't remember when there was an expression a regarding excuse me, the first question is it possible one more time, is there a connection well, as far as i know personally , there was no connection with me brother, i.e. not a brother to me i called and didn't write since the last time. i was in touch with him. and it was just the last day when they were taken out of azov. he wrote to me at five in the morning that after dinner there might be no communication, so uh, with me in there was no communication, and as far as i know, the same with others. natalka, maybe you know if your last call was with your husband, or is it possible. this is an extremely important signal. so we understand the situation of the relatives of the boys who

are in russian captivity and we hope that the so-called the information blockade will soon pass in dosed informing of our society and the families of the boy who is in captivity, because if our government does not speak, then taking into account the request for this resonant topic, we understand where our citizens will get information, so they will get it from some anonymous public places or, god forbid, from russian sources we call on our relevant officials to work more actively in informing our citizens. well, i propose to inform you about what is precisely known about mariupol, in particular, from the mariupol city council and in the old crimean cemetery , 25 new sectors of the trench type appeared during the month. bodies are folded in several layers and then masked with plaques as individuals. from the inside of april, the occupiers buried at least 16,000 mariupol citizens in mass graves near the villages of stariy krym

mangush and vynogradne, and about 5,000 more people were buried by communal services by mid-march under rubble in spontaneous cemeteries and temporary morgues, thousands of bodies still remain, the most modest estimate so far is 22,000 dead citizens of mariupol and contact us petro andryushchenko , advisor to the mayor of mariupol petra, we welcome you glory to ukraine, we understand how tragic the situation is, so we regularly receive one or another footage from mariupol, now there is a video that simply does not leave anyone indifferent, it is unusually difficult to watch it says about the bodies of the residents of mariupol mariupol who were killed, now they are conditioned and what and so on do you know about this. unfortunately, sad information about our dead comes every day and there are very specific reasons

of course, they understood for us this analysis of the rubble, this experiment of the occupiers with infrastructure that only worsens the situation and is simply not humane , in principle, the behavior of new ukrainian citizens, even when they died, on the one hand, we have to see, we are watching the expansion of mass graves , er, we see how mass graves are simply poured people are like garbage, on the one hand, on the other hand, we understand that even the power of the ministry of emergencies of russia is not enough to do it quickly, so they are starting to oppose improvised debts, anything, any space that they will find in shopping centers. that is, all life is just continuous and i understand that we understand now that we are counting it a-a already relying on one piece of information that visually comes from our e-e holodovych new e let's say so without mass graves

and we understand that tsifral 22,000 is a little too small. let's say so optimistically, yes, the dead are much more. other international humanitarian organizations in order to work with the bodies of the dead, it is after all about the identification of the ato well, i'm sorry, 20 thousand in a mass grave well, this is a huge tragedy in addition to everything that people do not know what happened to their relatives well, of course not about what identification it is said and identification is done only where people independently bring the bodies of the dead to their morgue through a so-called special

examination . in fact, what about the red cross or other international organizations, well, apart from banking , propagandists worked there, not only are they not allowed, but they constantly work to discredit the actual, including such international institutions , we have a new case there, now they are strongly promoting the story specifically with the red cross before that there was a whole group that supposedly spied and helped keep fire in the ukrainian army, now we have a new creed story with the red cross, because only it searched the building of the red cross the cross in mariupol, which was actually carried out by the people from the plane, and now it is said that it turns out that the red cross was inciting young people, such a hitlerian, to sue on the one hand, on the other hand, er, the red

cross or the international committee of the red cross , whose office was allegedly going to be opened in rostov recently, i.e. i understand that they don't even understand what the difference is, so it's just a figure in principle, the red cross. i understand that if even they now start talking about ukrainians , it's the same as it was personally, let's start small let's move on to more, that is, over time, we will hear about the international red cross, which prepared compote for thousands of children to sell for organ transplantation. well, there is a solid brand, in fact, yes, it is so delusional, but that it works, unfortunately, and we are following this and the question of identification and all this, well, we are watching very, very carefully because we understand that, for example, the red cross is almost the only international organization that is really really at least structural situation and evacuation for growth,

in particular that is why children are able to leave earlier, we had information that mariupol is completely blocked, is the deportation continuing, and the main thing is the filtering of people, how do they go through it. unfortunately, the name of the city is blocked here without any changes . today, the city is mariupol district, and the only channel is through the filtering camp to and where are the ports, we actually know the situation is getting worse on our seas, the process in the middle of russia is already a member of the knowledge that near the border crossing with estonia, even there, the russians will have a filtration camp, they are trying to fish there our ukrainians have already become mariupol people who ran away with their children, where they were deported, that is, well, this is a real genocide, well, it cannot be called anything else, in fact, we wanted to ask you about the

situation at the port, because this applies not only to mariupol, but also to the rest of the ports of the sea of ​​azov, because the information is quite heterogeneous, the occupiers assure that they have already demined everything there and are preparing, so to speak, to improve the provision of their military, so that the port on the same berdyansk could receive the military there or mariupol cargoes from the other side, we understand that it is as if they are saying that and no, there is no such full-fledged work of the occupied ports, er, there are certain details here, of course , which must be added for understanding, that is, what is the mariupol port - it is the largest non -deep-water orthosol, in fact, yes, there are no analogues there the territory of ukraine on the territory of russia, in principle, due to the fact that we can accept very large ships, very large cargoes, but in fact it happens very simply, there are two entrances

to the sport, one is the same in berdyansk, in fact that is, such as it is simply given. that is, these are small vessels, there are 3 tons of 3,000 tons of cargo, something like e class, a river in the sea, and there is another entrance to the water area in the port, which comes from the channel, the same deep-sea, this is already a large vessel of more than 30,000 t can accept it is for them that the fight is about, that is why the new e this pier this entrance is still behind well it is blocked by the vessel myotida it is blocked by the military court of donbas these are our two last flags military and civilian ukrainian flags in the city in fact for today until they got to say them that it is impossible. maybe, but there is no capacity. so far, this is exactly the situation they have with the loading and operation of the cranes. they use only one crane

- this means that the port can work, but for a very long time , that is, to say that it is a full-fledged operation of the port - no, but it cannot be said that they are not can now enter the ports or leave the port already with cargo ships, their goal is so far different and this is the unblocking of full shipping with e-e it is through the deep-sea channel that i would like to clarify with you why the occupiers are with such stupidity and stupidity they regularly try to tie the temporarily occupied mariupol to chechnya, then they take the prisoners to chechnya, then they are going to transfer the occupied mariupol under the patronage of kadyrov, so to speak, for what purpose do they throw this whole thing here, there are certain two, er, probably big reasons, the first reason - it is public and propaganda. let's say what it was like before that, that is, we have the azov regiment, which the whole of russia is afraid of, of course, which

even chechens are afraid of, we understand it, and this is such a public counterbalance. they are trying to us scaring your aunts with troops is one story , but another story. what are the kadyrovs? are they actually deployed? yes, they are not combat units, there are super assault units, it’s mostly the same. yes, the russian version actually works . and now they really entered the city. and the fact that they eat it is more likely from the idea, it is in principle the result, you know, spiders in one jar and cannot be divided among themselves in mariupol on the one hand the fsb on the other hand the ministry of defense of russia on the other hand there is the main intelligence department russia, the police of russia, they cannot understand who in principle this is. well, for example, you already have that metal , yes, or i want everyone's pocket, then the money will go to the so -called restoration of mariupol, that is, as a counterbalance to

the result of these internal conflicts, the kadyrovs appeared, this says about it, well about the fact that the city is being looted, that there will be no budgets, the budget is all for donetsk, well, the name of the period of occupation is for restoration, and mariupol, where it was in ruins, and the country and remained, in principle, these two components, why are these kadyrivites constantly appearing, now kadyrivites in fact, they create and receive as mobile groups, which according to our so-called goat drake, let's say some of them were used to evacuate people to bypass there were posts to bypass the filtration camps, but now they are patrolling them more, unfortunately, and they just appeared in the city, so far we see their kind that they are doing this very strengthening of the occupation regime of filtering control, i.e. they still cannot accept that mariupol has turned out to be a free

global friendly city. the chechnya with mariupol may be that the case of grozny, purely psychologically, worked quite well internally on the russians and on the representatives of the chechen republic, including, they say, you can also see the ruins . we know about the i mariupol project and we see how it is developing now in ukraine, tell me a little more. i understand that this is an initiative, in particular , to help those who have left i mariupol oh, i am a mariupol woman, our favorite project now, do you understand in fact, we can talk about endlessly. well, if we were very brief, we are a city that we adopted at one time . well, there are a lot of them. yes, we always called them new mariupol people for our immigrants from donetsk. at least from donetsk region of luhansk region

, so we know what it's like to be like how to work with a certain category. because people, first of all, and secondly, unfortunately, they did not know and saw it. it is not surprising for us, but as , for example, our danes were left on their own. having in mind the local government. reading the state rudely speaking yes we do what we can do besides that we are looking well we are absolutely sure that even this year we will return home that is why we have no questions about the socialization of people well in communities as it happened with the people of donetsk that is why we are making such centers mariupol for the people of mariupol in those cities where we are. moreover, we are very, very grateful to everyone who perceives us in line with us. we know lviv, well, we are very happy. we will see us in lviv, and lviv in mariupol.

they actively and not declaratively go to your meeting, yes, and whether there is a question of real financial support, we understand it very well . that it will be the same as and i did not even doubt that it will be the same as with our zaporozhye dnipro kiev vinnytsia where the local government supported us very much, it supported us everywhere beautiful cities in the middle of the place so that it would be convenient for the residents of mariupol to make it convenient for our guests a-a kyivans vinnytsia residents of dnipro who visit mariupol all the time, therefore i hope that mr. sadnyi will be just as friendly to us and knowing that money is the relationship between our mayor and the mayor of

lviv. i hope that it is very quickly and very nicely. we will do it all as best as possible in our cities. like the espresso tv channel, we will pay appropriate attention to it. if there were any problems, of course, let us know. we will broadcast it. thank you. we will remind you that on the contact with the studio was petro andryushchenko, advisor to the mayor of the city of mariupol, concluding about mariupol, i will just remind you that 8% of the economy and exports of ukraine were concentrated there, and russia deliberately destroyed industry and infrastructure and the rapid development of mariupol and the contrast against the background of the decline of occupied donetsk and small cities in russia itself smashed putin's propaganda in the east of ukraine , that is why mariupol was in the center of this tsunami , uh, already outside the boundaries of this tsunami, fortunately, the kyiv region, in particular, the cities of the kyiv region are recovering from occupation among them and buch, hundreds of killed residents,

hundreds of destroyed houses in some places are starting to return home, but they are faced with the problem of rebuilding houses and apartments, the pace of state support is quite slow, so we have to start repairs on our own, and our correspondents worked in kyiv region, brought material, we are looking at this house in buch, the first shell arrived on february 27, he broke through the building, a fire broke out, the apartment on the fourth floor burned to the ground. at that moment, people were hiding in the basements of the building everyone was in a tattoo. who was hiding from this shelling because it is the safest, so it is the safest here, they are the most powerful. well, these networks, they all started here, there, here, in this cell, everything won, everything is new, everything is new, we made everything new, the smoke started going down into the basement, it became difficult to breathe, coming out, there is an exit, and we

went down this corridor to another entrance, we have two entrances, other arrivals, another apartment was destroyed on the second floor, further occupation and evacuation through green corridors, the occupants remained in the building they broke every door, it's the russian military, they came to my place, everything was turned over, the whole sofa was also turned over, they searched everything here, in principle, nothing except my underwear and a set of jewelry. they didn't steal here, the room that suffered the most was through the window, right on this side everything has grown and i will obviously have to replace this window, but i do not regret it because it is, well, it is, well, i was lucky, i just think that my apartments are in such a state after the liberation of the city, people began to return, the house wants to survive, but communications were destroyed by fires in the

entrance itself, the cable was burnt, there will be light supply, and in fact, there was no such thing for living, it was difficult to return, but you and i organized with our neighbors and collected funds because the zhek said to wait for the end of the war , we do not have any money for compensation they uh-uh uh-huh well, who, who , where did he live due to the fact that the house was damaged, and now people collected money and restored a-ah electricity and water supply a-ah most of all , in this situation, it shows that uh-eh that what two months passed after deoccupation a-a and-y m-m so far there are no e-e moved because they

so far they have not even made a conclusion on the damage. the administration allocates funds for restoration from the state budget, money for notification of this damage to the house has not been allocated at the moment, repairs are being carried out , the roof is being restored, where they are completely doing it, it is not enough for such large-scale works was the money not allocated, only the beginnings, how much does the expert commission work, only the actual place, only the work. according to the secretary of the buchan city council, everyone is very much in the community, 1,769 damaged buildings, 260 apartment buildings, the amount of damage according to preliminary estimates is 450 million dollars. and we are facing a shortage of construction materials windows of the temple of windows to date according to the works performed by our subcontractors, works in the amount of 138 million hryvnias have been performed, this is only for the replacement of windows and

replacement let's say the roof so that you understand has so far allocated uah 400 million for the entire kyiv region, also according to taras shapravskyi, by virtue of the law, contractors receive money for the completed works already after their completion without advance payments, also the law does not provide for compensation for residents who carry out repairs at their own expense i.e. this program does not provide that, let's say, he bought his own doors, installed them there or installed windows and brings checks, they give him money. state support only has to wait for such a time, many buchans do not have it. so they are already ready to partially restore their houses themselves, but they complain about the lack of basic communication

with the local authorities and utility companies. of the buchan city council, glory to ukraine , mrs. kateryna, this is for just now. we have just reviewed the budget and we understand what a difficult situation we are in this is how the residents of buchach are, on the other hand , we understand how difficult the situation is with money , which, so to speak, does not exist. so, please tell us about the realities of this process, because people really do not have a place to live in some places, and in some places, and in general, there are a lot of such cases to me as unfortunately, not all of our deputies are in the city and not all of them are in contact with the voters, so people are looking for only those deputies who are in place, some of our deputies are still behind border e-e well they believe that saving their lives and the lives of their families is now more important, in fact,

not so many people have returned to bucha. this is simply visible in the evening at night through the windows, well, that is, by the number of people who come to the shops there . which opened recently restored well, what was destroyed was that they had a store... well, it was robbed, so they say that there are very few buyers, only those who come directly from abroad in order to put a metal bar in the apartment after the raids, so to speak er, and they take detergents there in order to wash the refrigerator, er, the refrigerator, put the apartment in order a little, and in general, people who were under occupation , they do not have the funds to purchase everything necessary for the destroyed property, people really have nowhere to live, er, we recently the session decided

to approve the program for the provision of temporary housing, but temporary housing can currently be provided, but uh, due to the installation of modular uh, temporary houses, poland provided such assistance, now they only some people set up houses called huts , so to speak, because they do not know how a family can live there, for example, with children, but i think that if people have no place to live at all, this is of course a way out of the situation, although then the option of temporary housing and transfer is considered uh, from non-residential premises, temporary residential premises until this process has been launched

rake out the rubble with your own means, but of course they explain to people that they do not dig until it collapses, until the house is inspected, so that later they do not say that it was not destroyed and , accordingly, this process is delayed, people have nowhere to live the process of warming up these wastes is being dragged out, people still have nowhere to live, which, as far as we understand, there is also a problem with utility companies, as it was noted in this story, which in some places sabotage and in some places really simply can not orientate themselves in the situation, who has time for themselves to arrange condominiums, the situation is a bit better for those, at least they know what to expect, so it would be good to work in this direction as well, as we understand it, and we include in our conversation anatoliy fedorchuk, the mayor of the city of bucha. congratulations, i'm sorry , mr. anatoliy fedoruk, so look in the studio, i

listened to my colleague what can i say. that everything is lost, we do not forget that there is a war in the country, it does not write off the war. but at the same time, the challenges that exist today are really such that they need to be solved. but at the same time, certain patience is that it is not necessary to screw up the situation. we want, on the contrary, to draw attention, so to speak, from both the central authorities and the authorities of the kyiv region. we understand that there is a problem of people, in particular. sensei, i think that this is a very widespread phenomenon throughout the territory of the kyiv region, is there, for example, a program to simply urgently cover such houses, well, look, from the first day of deoccupation, such programs started

to work really, they are progressing quite slowly and it is connected with several factors and not money. it is decisive because it was necessary to leave the previous legislative field and in fact it is critical to prepare a new regulatory framework, which in fact the government and the ministry of community development of the theory provided for today , it is already possible to state that for populated areas, i will talk about bucha, e.e., the procedure for recording the survey has been completed, and what is important is that the examination procedure is coming to an end, because when we we say that the roof needs to be repaired , overhauled, but we understand that it must be a project, an examination, a conclusion, and only then can we give a guarantee that the contractor who will perform the work will perform it in accordance with the design and technology, damn it, which will actually make

it possible for these roofs to be safe after operation, to date, we perform seven such works in the city where major roof repairs are underway, plus a flat roof with e-e, we are engaged in the replacement of windows, centralized danish a complicated procedure because there is also the regional military administration of the ministry of community development of the territory. at the same time, we cannot enter all the apartments because, as a rule, the dismantling of windows and window frames can be done from the apartment, that is, you have to get inside, and not all owners have returned to that, there is a system of finances the local budget plus the state budget is difficult now, it is difficult everywhere and for everyone but at the same time, we understand that there are certain bureaucratic nuances and uh, about uh, mr. anatoly, uh, the bucha bridge has become a place of pilgrimage, we see such very high uh, foreign politicians who are coming are terrified and make certain statements

, in particular today the minister of foreign affairs of france, catherine, the column was supposed to be in buch. i don't know if it has already been. can you tell us for just one minute ? from our international partners at your level, at least i am answering the questions of the minister who really visited, just like other politicians who come to buchi , and every meeting we try as much as possible to it was not an exception to use the interests of our territorial community, and at this meeting, the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine made a proposal regarding communication with the municipality in french, so that the city would improve communication and thus settle the problems that exist and the need that exists in the municipal buchi which is why we use this at every meeting