the ukrainian army will bury everyone, friends, every day the ukrainian army pays a very high price so that the war does not reach the cities that are in the rear, and you know. well, it's the same way to say that the enemy is there, it's ridiculous and that we have 40 chernobaivka there, there are 50 chernobaivka there were much fewer things than what restovych told about them, you also need to understand that, you don’t need to turn the war into a joke, and you don’t need to turn the war, i don’t know , into some kind of parade, into some parade parade. well, let all the russians come, and we them here we will bury friends, it’s all war, it’s very difficult and people die in war, and the russian army , among other things, has very well-prepared units and, for example, i am very annoyed by the question and when the ukrainian army goes there to liberate

crimea, it’s not because of that that i do not miss even such an opportunity, but because of the fact that this issue is not at all timely at all, what is going on now is for sovereignty and independence, for ukraine to preserve its statehood, sovereignty and independence, and this war has never gone for territory because if for us the territories were first of all on the agenda, we could agree to implement the minsk agreements, get donetsk luhansk again, but i don't know if it would be donetsk luhansk, our country resembled some kind of bosnia, and donetsk luhansk had the right to veto our foreign policy decisions, there is some zakharchenko there or there i i don't know who is there for me right now in the luhansk region, they would be sitting in the ukrainian parliament. but we are not fighting precisely

for independence, for sovereignty, and that is why we did not agree with those compromises that could to deprive us of this sovereignty, that is, it is probably annoying first of all well, this is a misunderstanding of the drama of what is happening at the front, calls there, i don’t know that we are all there now, it just does n’t happen without leaving the barracks, everyone we will win and there are all reflections when we are there why we are not yet going to liberate the country because the war is not going exactly like that and we understand that this is certainly not the last stage so that if it does not happen to the russian federation, the russians will not disappear anywhere and the confrontation between us and them will still remain and victory will remain short if possible in the

current stage and will come in the current stage when the russians will not have a-a forces and always in order to continue the offensive they are currently conducting thank you thank you pavly and keep up the success pavlo kazarin tv host journalist fighter of territorial defense this is the reflection, in particular, almost from a preconfused reflection, that is, dear tv viewers, we do not perceive the current extremely difficult situation as a turning point , there are still a lot of battles ahead, and unfortunately of blood. so we are preparing for a long scenario , keep calm and avoid excessive optimism . by the way, the enemy once again attacked the destroyed bridge across the dniester estuary in odesa. this is also evidence that the russians want to finally finish off or destroy our infrastructure. fortunately, our

repairmen and logisticians are actively working for that. so that ukraine is not deprived of ways of communication, in particular, trade with the west, but we see how the enemy works, we are adding to our information and analytical marathon on the air of the espresso tv channel petro obukhov, the deputy of odesa of the city council glory to ukraine peter glory to the heroes good afternoon, i wanted to ask you what the situation with the same glorious bridge is, you know . so they will shoot at it again, there is, for example, the european project copernicus, this is a system of satellites for which you can watch uh, new satellite images, i looked uh, and about two

weeks ago, after the third and fourth attempt there in these pictures, the bridge was intact. yes, it is possible that if you look closely, there are some parts of the damage, but in general, it was intact, and i think that the russians are not so stupid, they do not see it, and some of their satellites have more than 100 russian satellites i will certainly answer . it is from a military point of view, they give almost nothing, for example, when they attack our oil bases, this works, and even if there is a railway, bridges or something like that, it is very ineffective, but on the other hand, we understand that as if the harpoons are coming, the russian wing

is no longer will terrorize odessa in the literal sense as it is now changing. let's put it this way, the atmosphere in odessa on this matter. well, you know, after even before the cruiser moscow was sunk, we sunk just from the hail, er, some russian warship as well uh, near odessa and after that they didn’t come close, we didn’t see them again during the raid, they didn’t shell our city from our coast anymore, and therefore the atmosphere from this point of view is very calm , the only thing we fear is rocket attacks because someone has already died from them several local residents were destroyed, several types of residential buildings were destroyed, the shopping center is a very important military facility , yes, the shopping center. well, this is the only thing that can threaten us, but it is also very unpleasant. well, we understand that odessa and the people of odessa are...

let's say it's very specific, this story is not similar to anything and we understand. i just saw these photos where after the calls of the local authorities to somehow protect themselves and not go to the beaches of odessa , they still try to take everything from life and despite the danger they go and sunbathe there, i don't i know they are sunbathing and resting, because if you can, please call the people of odessa not to do this, we periodically resort to such information companies so that people really pay attention to all the relevant factors. petro is now saying, dear people of odessa, if there is no air alarm and there is we also had the opportunity to socialize for two days without air alarms. i know that several night clubs on the beaches in arcadia build swimming pools so that people can swim at least in the pools in the sea

. there are bombs in storage. i honestly don't understand well. i don't understand how it is. maybe physically , but there is such an advertisement. well, hmm, honestly, i won't call people because the war has been going on for three months and everyone who could understand understood it. i'm working on decontamination. i don't know. some subversive ones elements in odesa, we understand the interest of odesa and the entire region for the russian federation, and i do not believe that they will leave this region without their agents of influence. well, maybe there are some, but they are very conspiratorial, because in recent months i have not heard any news about the arrests of such people on the eve of may 2, they arrested a person who had such an arsenal at home, there , er, in the flags of the ussr, there were georgiivskyi tapes, but they are a complete set, so schizophrenic, but there was no more of this in the news. and actually, it was very calm

yes, the police will detain someone there. whoever violates the curfew, but it is not a terrorist , i do not know what the situation is with the awakening of odessa and the realization that everything is so clear that it is not even worth voicing this formula that they tried to carry out for us, so they say somewhere, somewhere not everything is so clear, we we understand. so it was a deliberate informational and psychological operation on the part of the russian special services, but the question is how far it reached the people of odessa . accordingly, how has the climate, emotional, and mood climate among native odessans changed, that is, how do they perceive the current situation now, because it entails corresponding changes, in particular, and i don’t know in urban topography in urban toponymy yes,

a very good question, it was also very interesting to me, and that’s why we conducted a sociological study. well, you know, for example, we have 64 deputies in the city council, 21 of them are members of the people's party and six more - this is the party of chevelyans. in general, we have a party for the city council. you can imagine, and i was interested. after the missile attacks on odesa, when was the death, the death was a local resident, not the military, there is a three -month-old child who died, did you understand, and here are these people who loved russia very much, and the answer is yes , they understood, which means, according to our survey, 44% support the renaming of streets named after the honor of russian figures or cities, 48% of odessans

are in favor of joining nato named after russian figures, we have more than 20 streets named after russian places, novgorod, rostov, makhachkalin, uh, whatever, there are even belarusian ones, brest, minsk , and amur, baikal, and when you well, if you don't understand the situation there, uh, you didn't study history and you find yourself in odesa or you were born in odesa and you grow up in odesa, you are a child of it. then you understand that this is a russian place, because russian figures are praised here, russian cities are even there, there is dmytro donskoy street, i am oleksandr nevsky street alone there was a prince of novgorod, uh, others, muscovy, what do they have to do with odessa, tell me, uh, and that's why i suggested that all these streets be renamed colleague, for example, what positions do the

opszists defend? are the people of odesa, and not only them , on the other hand, we understand that god vanquishes the monument to catherine ii, and it is not just that there is some legendary aunt from history, this is a person who has blood on her hands, historical blood on her hands so is this one the monument stands because we understand what crimes she committed against ukraine, not only against the then ukrainian hetman state in particular and against our neighboring poland, not to mention specific crimes against ordinary ukrainians of the 18th century, yes, the truth is that it is a monument now is located in this part of the city, which is closed to visitors, the military is stationed there, and that is why she survived, and that is also why no one could find her there somehow or hmm, but well, actually , we also asked in this survey, 75% odessans still want to save her, and even

if she was saved in this place, at least it is necessary to add a large information state there with information about everything she did, because i think that the majority simply do not know and but and after the public the opinion will be prepared, only after that it will be possible to make some changes . petro obukhov, who has already been appointed as a deputy of the odesa city council, was in touch with us about the situation in odessa in general and in a moral and ethical sense , including a psychological one . viktor, congratulations and glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes. so, it seems as if some

personnel rotations are beginning in the security service of ukraine. by the main intelligence agency what is happening on our classified mysterious fronts well, the rules have been set aside by dudi of kharkiv oblast, but what does this mean, the person did not do his job, he ignored the joint joint defense of the city, he was engaged in. as the president said, there is a team that must protect this area, this is very an important direction is extremely important if we had lost it then in the first days of the war, i don’t know how we would look now in the eyes of the world public, not even ukrainian the public and thanks to the fact that the concentration of

efforts of even those people who carry out the measures that needed to be carried out, therefore, this is approximately the same story that was in kherson only in kherson, in addition to the fact that they were removed from their positions and lowered in rank. well, someone was taken under arrest generals, we understand that there is, so to speak, a simple official about the plug. well, what if we don’t use the arresting officer’s technology? well, but anyway, that is, their stories are very serious, something was known about it, see, the president said the law enforcement officers will figure it out if the law enforcement officers really find a criminal component or a component that points to just some treasonous positions, i think that this person will not be held accountable, but simply taken into custody without any charges, well i mean official ones for now what i'm not ready to say well, let's go

back to the issue of merging intelligence and intelligence control in one guriv bottle, your attitude. listen, well, if ukraine doesn't want to join nato, wants to follow the nkvd, i don't know to follow the path of the russian federation is a very good idea. i think that someone likes it. someone wants to create a new special service under themselves and lead it. i am in this understanding. then everything falls into place, but listen, there is no country in the world that the attention of a democratic country, which is development and control, merges into one bottle. as you said, there is no such understanding. there is a clear understanding that the control agency deals with internal problems and protection, and there is intelligence that works externally

. in addition to all that, there is the question of the actual destruction of the foreign intelligence service is to take away the foreign intelligence service as a technical component and return it to a normal idea. and why do we need the foreign intelligence service? let's put it together somewhere with glue and we won't have a civilian strategic component, but everything will be military. intelligence well, i don't know, i still feel that this is such an internal sabotage, somehow they managed to achieve the conclusion of this war, well, the main question is whether the correct information reaches those ears that have listen, we understand that very often in our ukraine, decisions are made by people who can blow something into their ears in a timely manner at a certain moment, and in this situation it is not about these or other small positions, it is actually a threat because it is a time of war, that is, there is some channel of proving some i don't know the analytics on this matter.

well, i hope that there is because we have already passed this information through those possible channels. i just want to give you the rough stuff. in in the united states, it is not an institution. it has its own intelligence there. the state department has its own intelligence. it is not necessary that it be an agency development and intelligence from open sources. there is intelligence that is built on information that is analyzed and that comes officially. there is a lot of development in ukraine . three three intelligence - this is the intelligence of the foreign intelligence service - this is the main department of military e-e intelligence of the ministry of defense and the department of the state e-e administration as part of the

state service of the state border service it is quite small and compact, but i showed the 14th year of border intelligence, it gave very interesting and serious information, but three intelligences, we had a new law on intelligence, i do not understand, just who planted this idea to break up what we are already with great difficulties due to analytical meetings, i personally hosted a meeting with our partners at the nato office where we discussed this bill, it was passed, there were some questions, but it was approved no, let's break everything down now let's take the fusion of intelligence there, well, at least what we see on paper in the sense of a legislative initiative er, in particular, comes from those people who recently criticized the security service of ukraine and the leadership for er allegedly quite er voice so

er er please comment on this the moment is this and this is this in general how can it be identified how is the work of undermining i do not know any kind of stability of the security service of ukraine so-and-so is it clear or something else please no i think there is something else there that personal er-er locked things i would not no was so deep because i worked in that working group on the law on the security service, which was actually on the way out, well, let 's be uh-uh, smart why, because the very bill that was already there somewhere on the second reading was supposed to be adopted, he actually came to agree with our partners, the partners said yes, there there are some contradictions, but if there is a sin of trouble , you say so. if you at least accept this one, then we will already understand that you have moved forward and everything else. well, what is happening now, i think that it is a

relationship at some level, you know, that's that what it concerns all those investigative commissions that were there, who headed their own, who was trusted, who was trusted, this is such a personal relationship that, unfortunately, harms not only ukraine, but i don’t know anymore, it must have already gone beyond the borders of our state, well, unfortunately, there is a feeling that this is possible there was a signal not even inside, but a signal purely outside, i would like to ask you now about the change in the current rhetoric of the kremlin, in particular, it is about the so-called strategic goals in quotation marks, which lavro just outlined , forgive me, now i have to reprimand both my mouth and our air is directed by the quote of this lying russian figure. so, according to lavrov, the obvious task is to move the ukrainian army and battalions beyond the borders of the donetsk and luhansk regions, this is an absolute priority, and the second is a

quote about the rest of the territory, attention, well, this applies to part of the kherson zaporizhzhia region, in relation to the rest of the territory where they live there are people living who do not want to develop ties with russia, the population of these regions will decide what ribbentrop meant by this, mr. general well, they are not going to to leave our territory, by themselves, only the armed forces of ukraine are capable of liberating this territory, this is the same rhetoric that i said a long time ago that if they enter somewhere, to knock them out with some kind of peaceful force or looking into the eyes, it is definitely impossible only don't be afraid, where, where, i don't know where , nazification and so on, they started with that package, and now somehow they have become so localized, listen , we need to liberate our occupied territories , everything else is already such a burden well, i would like to

inform you that the occupiers are in kherson oblast could not to conduct a population census, what can we say about any referendums there, even though they would not even pretend to have any legitimacy, i would simply write everything that they think is necessary, and the residents of henichesky district did not provide the russians with their personal data. at least this is what the adviser to the head of the regional of the military administration serhiy khlan a-a p victor, i would still like to understand a little now what is happening on our southern borders, in the occupied territories in particular, but periodically we hear information about what is happening there i don't know the partisan movements in melitopol, periodically something is undermined and we see that the work of our underground workers is going on, nevertheless, is there any way to activate it even more, is there a problem with communication with these people, well, these are things that just don't you can

comment, discuss, including live , people work very hard, extremely hard and it is so dangerous that you understand , moving from yard to yard from street to street requires appropriate permits from the occupiers, look what is happening even in the same mariupoli where there is a filter, even people who have passed the filter cannot simply move around their city, there are restrictions. the same situation is now being created in the occupied territories of the zaporizhia kherson region. the people of kherson leave, the people of zaporozhye cannot move somewhere in the direction of kherson, and that’s

all. the enemy and the occupiers, that is, a very huge problem. and they really track all the people who showed or show disloyalty to them . i just have a family there. i know how they are relatives. they searched all social networks and then it turned out that they start check phones for the presence of social networks, they check these friends, that is, if your phone is clean, you also fall under their suspicions, because you cannot remove social networks, etc. and so on, that is, there are a lot of moments that, well, really it's just that people don't know what to do as a union. it's a place to go out with a cart, it's bad for mobile, it's bad for the internet , there are some moments related to humanitarian things

. moment, i know people, i know those forces that are trying to launch uh, in that environment of the occupier, everything so that they are simply not very comfortable , let's call it that, to be in our territory, and this and this is still successful, and thank god , even at this level, even at the level of some there postcards, even at the level of some simply scratched cars or punctured wheels, this indicates that people have not surrendered, even at the level that teachers refuse to continue their work together with the occupier, refuse to go to crimea for advanced training, they say that they are ready to live from the garden so as not to cooperate with they can be the occupiers at the same time the information reached everyone which amused everyone from the beginning and then, of course

, everyone was upset. well, there have been no confirmations for a few hours, i don’t know. generals, this is an informational and psychological special operation on the part of the russians that they started to drop this case. is there still a chance , so to speak, that our hopes will be confirmed? another corpse near the mausoleum near lenina, for example, no, i think that this is a special operation of our partners in order for the person to be in good shape so that they understand that it is not that they know everything, understand everything and expect it is clear that this is not true and the truth may not be so desirable and we wanted it quickly, but still, there is hope that he won't last long in this position, he won't

last, not because he is sick there, not because he really might not bend over there somewhere or someone is beating him, but because he is all right now interferes with everyone really, well, this is mine, in russia, the analysts themselves say that the people around him, uh, there are several uh, uh, camps, what hours he alone interferes because he doesn’t do it to the end, he does it to others, what he does, but it’s not the case with the third interferes with its presence in general are now taking place against the background of the fact that every day the situation in the economy worsens and the fortunes of those people who thought that they had set up their children, grandchildren, and great-grandchildren all their lives are decreasing, and it all collapsed at the same time. i think that only such things can somehow to encourage the removal

of this person from the first post. and there is a feeling that the russians are already exhaling, we understand that more and more ruffians are returning to various russian regions, but the question is how many of them will still be enough with such a pace of hostilities. unfortunately, we are dealing with a society that did not accept this, they can eat some kind of cabbage and stick to it, the main thing for them is that's the problem. unfortunately, that's the way it is, and it's possible to hope for some internal riots there only if everything really moves, the movement is not humanitarian there is some, well, everything related to food, medicine, and their wishes , there, er, to pay the mortgage on time, and some other things , that is, things that can directly affect them then

yes, then they can still leave and then it will not e there er the civil process will be more social protest yes, once upon a time, 100 years ago, there were some riots for alcohol or for bread. yes, this is what can happen in russia, unfortunately, all the rest of the riots do not take place in them so far, and there is only hope for these so-called psuedoets thank you victor, i am hon . major general, the former deputy head of the security service of ukraine was in touch with us, and now it's news time on the espresso tv channel, iryna kovaliy will introduce iryna. i congratulate you, what's new in ukraine and the world during this hour. thank you, colleagues, so really i will tell you about what is happening in luhansk region