control and determination of priorities, where to put them . on the solar station that this crazy nak naftogaz is building, you understand that he is starting to build solar gas stations, anything but gas extraction, you understand, and part of the question is why we don’t have it, maybe there is a program for extracting our gas of some kind there is an additional and yes, because this is actually a strategic reserve of a strategic deposit , we understand that some of them are serviced by private companies. i don't know if anyone did an audit, so to speak, how active they are are mined and so on in recent years, they have been increasing their production, but now part of the polish wells would fall into the war zone and conservation is really underway. i carefully read the support says that he plans to reduce production for this season by 6%. you understand ours, that

is, today we are not talking about any significant capital investment, mining is well, it is clear, it should have been done earlier when they and kobalev’s program 20x20, their adventurous one, you understand, a complete adventure that ended in failure. excuse me, and what we paid 100 billion hryvnias and the production of gas did not increase, that is the main problem of all this, gentlemen, you know panama is an international such a scam, gentlemen, these are the signs of oil and gas in our country. we had a precedent when in the lviv region in particular i remember this moment very well because it was during an air raid and everyone was very scared of some kind of explosions in the lviv region, in the end then the representatives of the olezh administration noted that now we are talking about, er, gas, at least for

western ukraine, for lviv oblast, about the deconservation of certain deposits, or something like that, yes, that’s for sure. my story, or what? it’s necessary to investigate it once again, now it’s all in the mysterious. you understand, i don’t know whether the deposits i deconserved it there. are there any problems in the storage facilities? do you understand what kind of problems you have? our ukrainian ones are located there. as far as i know, they are really exhausted or everything possible has been selected from them. i want to say more. i don’t want to comment because i think it’s a strategic secret, but the fact that this heating season passed was not thanks to the heroism of yuriy yuriyovych, but thanks to the fact that 4.5 million ukrainians went, they stopped consuming gas, the opz plants stopped, ilyich, e.e., azovstal stopped - that’s 2

.5 billion cubic meters minus the population did not consume. that is why they pre-wintered, and not because such a great manager yuriy yuriyovych vytrenko. excuse me, mind, i see that there is something personal, so to speak, in this assessment, but as they say, god with mr. gennady, we would like to ask you about the prospects, in contrast to you, well, i take part in dialogues with yuri yuri vitrenka. i see how he answers, how he manipulates numbers, and i'm sorry, i don't want to say personally, but i don't value this manager at 300 million hryvnias per year, i estimate it to be one in a million cheaper, as well as to mr. kobalev, well, according to mr. gennadiyovych, we have prospects to increase the production of our domestic gas, this is a very serious story. we do not know now what the energy gas balance will be in general

the european continent in the european union, for example. well , and in ukraine. yes, but there is information coming from the united states about the strengthening of its convoys, and not only from them, respectively. the situation looks like at the moment, well, they promise that something is being done, but since naftogaz once said that there is no need to build an interconnector in ukraine , poland, because it is not profitable, i was very interested to find out in what way all this will reach the underground gas storages of ukraine in the same way naftogaz was unprofitable to invest mining funds in the development of mining he said that it is better to invest also in the development of the retail network in the development of

trading companies and because it will allow to make a profit and therefore a bigger profit and if you consider money as mining, then for the first 7-10 years you can get nothing at all if it is about new deposits. well, if we talk about these donor funds , no funds will be created at the entities management, the sole purpose of which, according to the charter, is to make a profit, which is generally the fund. that is, for some reason, we are used to thinking that nak naftogaz of ukraine or the naftogaz group, what is it called now that it is a state company, it is not a state company, this company does not perform any tasks e which would be established for it by the state open the statutes make sure of this this company is created or more precisely a group of companies

is created in order to make a profit and a profit who is the largest most disciplined the payer in ukraine is you and i, as citizens of ukraine , it is you and i who, despite all the troubles, pay in full for all housing and communal services , including paying the price of gas as a commodity , including paying for its supply and distribution. that is, we with you, we pay for thermal energy for water heating, which is carried out by teplokomunenergo, in which the prices for the same natural gas will now be tripled, and this is exactly what makes money. actually, the effective managers of naftogaz naftogaz are really effective because i immediately disagree with oleksiy yuriyovich. i

consider both yuriy and yuriyovich and mr. kobolev and all other top managers of naftogaz to be exceptional managers in terms of their efficiency, because what is efficiency when you get the biggest profit for the minimum costs, so they get the biggest profit for the minimum costs , but unfortunately this activity sometimes contradicts the strategic tasks set by the state, in particular, in the energy security strategy. thank you for considering this, it should be reviewed first of all, the charter of e-e naftogaz a group, and secondly , to oblige the relevant top managers to do what is beneficial not so much to business entities

as to the state of ukraine. thank you, thank you. of this important discussion, i hope that after this the satellite will not be thrown out because we were criticized a lot, jokes were not dispersed with jokes, and despite the fact that may is now coming to an end, everyone should understand that summer goes by extremely quickly and payments arrive regularly, in particular, now a little more about the bans. i think that we all noticed how mainstream the ukrainianization of all space inside our country and even outside it is now, but today is our anniversary. almost a century and a half ago in may 1876 by the russian emperor alexander the second, the emsk decree forbade the use of the ukrainian language in many spheres of life, and it is clear that this caused russia to dispossess a large part of ukrainian lands, but the current

russian-ukrainian war is likely to nullify all the historical attempts of those who were so to speak superior to us to somehow strangle the ukrainian language, our colleagues have prepared a very huge plot . let's watch the emsk decree issued on may 30, 1876 by emperor alexander ii banned the use of the ukrainian language in virtually all spheres of life, even church music, theater and books the empire was afraid of the revitalization of the development of ukrainian culture and allowed the use of the ukrainian language only in everyday life. now the russian invaders are once again destroying the occupied territories capturing everything ukrainian, they first of all change road signs and prohibit the study of the ukrainian language, literature and history in schools, meanwhile, the large-scale invasion of russia into ukraine has already caused the opposite effect on the attitude of ukrainians to the russian language, looking

at how russian missiles and aerial bombs kill the civilian population of ukrainians began to refuse en masse the refusal of the occupiers in favor of the state oleksandr sydorenko he is already in fozza from the band tanok on the congo maidan cut in russian-speaking kharkiv the first ukrainian-language songs the group began to sing in 1997 at the chervona ruta festival, after that the singer gradually became more and more ukrainian-speaking, i was thirteen in the village , the sun was shining . i will heal you. but to expect that all russian-speakers

will suddenly learn the language they have spoken all their lives - he says - is not worth it and asks not to harass the immigrants in western ukraine for this, with the reaction of the refugees who could not switch to ukrainian, the residents are sometimes aggressive towards i tried to explain that it is not as important as it sometimes seems, and there are many soldiers who speak russian. the main thing is that they can quickly perform some military actions, and in what language will they communicate in their native language surzhik in russian or ukrainian. for me personally , it doesn’t matter. it’s much more important to be a confident musician, so that

the next generations of our citizens speak ukrainian, we should fight for the youth, because ukraine sometimes invalid content, uh, loses. i don’t know, for myself, highly russian content after 2014 . what does this pipe look like, but the fact that it is still being discussed during the war in ukraine indicates that it is not yet possible to finally sever relations with the russian media, even with liberal content, unfortunately, russia's military actions against of ukraine in 2014, and especially now, provoked a wave of interest in the ukrainian language in the world . lithuanian journalist anna dakushkevych started working as a correspondent in donbas 5 years ago. at first in ukraine, she communicated in russian , but later she decided that she should know the language of ukrainians, that it is

uncomfortable for me to speak russian, so i will clean up what i i communicate with people who defend their country , he is lithuanian, but my native language is polish, and it helped me so much, in fact, to learn the ukrainian language, because from the very beginning i tried to understand to understand ukrainian through russian and i didn't succeed in general and i couldn't understand why something was wrong and then when i realized that ukrainian and russian are so in fact how different languages ​​are and my polish helped me to start to understand ukrainian now considering a particularly large the presence of ukraine in the information space, the knowledge of ukrainian helps ani a lot in her work, and she herself helps her colleagues, we used to say kharkiv instead of kharkiv

, and i myself said it for one for the second editor that it is wrong because we are translating from the russian language. this is not russia, this is not, er, tsutse, some kind of russian name, or that it should be signed and translated from the ukrainian language. anna says that knowledge of ukrainian nowadays can be useful in any corner of the world. i just a few days ago, i was in prague, where there are a lot of ukrainian flags , and i went to a supermarket and i started to communicate in english, because you understand, for sure, no, they understand lithuanian, and i do n’t we found we found a common language she was she was actually a ukrainian woman. she

just told me that she doesn't understand english. but she can communicate with russian or ukrainian. i said ukrainian is better there. i could even communicate with ukrainian in another country and i like ukrainian very much . -helped a lot despite dozens of bans for more than three centuries, the ukrainian language continues to develop and with every aggressive step of russia, more and more citizens communicate with it. is still spitting up blood, in particular in the temporarily occupied areas of our country, on the other hand, we understand that a lot of changes should be made wisely. therefore, we will talk about the mind and politics of national memory with anton shrohnych, head of the

ukrainian institute of national memory, and volodymyr in yatrovych, people's deputy of ukraine, until recently the head of the ukrainian institute of national remembrance, in any case, today we should not be bypassing the anniversary of the emsk decree, so somewhere, possibly beyond the urals, someone would have washed this matter we understand that, on the other hand, this is actually evidence of the weakness of the power of the russian empire as such, which wanted to dissolve ukraine into little russia, and as a result, it received a strong state in the center of europe called ukraine. you can imagine how much effort they put into their colonization policy, but on the other hand, we see also that this story will not end, unfortunately, so simply and easily, if we had hoped for volodymyr, it is really worth remembering

such sad gifts of the ukrainian side, now there should be a purposeful policy, remembering all these volyn circulars, amma decrees, we have to do everything depending on us in order to create conditions for the development of the ukrainian language on behalf of the already existing ukrainian state, because theses that were often heard already in independent ukraine what well, okay, let's just let the ukrainian language be free from the market it basically competes with the russian language. it's just that without any support from the state and because there shouldn't be any interference, they are absolutely not sincere because it's the year we're talking about today we show what shows what was done on the part of the russian state for purposeful efforts so that the ukrainian language began to gradually disappear, if we want to return to the ukrainian language, then there must be the same efforts and resources on the part of the ukrainian state so that it is strengthened so that it spreads more moreover, we see that now this issue is connected with the issue of

sovereignty, that ukrainian national sovereignty, state sovereignty is absolutely connected with issues of national identity that precisely in those areas where there was a weak and insufficiently developed ukrainian, it is precisely in those areas that vladimir putin deploys his aggression precisely by worrying about the presence of the russian-speaking population, he tries to justify his aggressive actions against ukraine, so we perfectly understand putin demonstrates that the issue of language - this security issues, he absolutely demonstrates that language is a weapon that he will use against us, and it is obvious that we must be ready to use it as well his conditions for the protection of his sovereignty , he entered his illusory world with his own hands a long time ago. but we understand that the language issue was a certain argument for him. i think that they, in their closed kremlin-like sociologies, also relied on this moment, that is, where, so to speak, the language they thought that what are we going to say at this

moment, anton well, i would like to draw attention first of all to the fact that er, this area of ​​language use was the first to be banned by the er city decree, this is the sphere of culture er, removal er education education in the evening school as well as theater productions and so on, that is, what is called now what kind of force. that is, we, if this soft one comes under a strong impact, the consequences are at first glance , they are not immediately read, because mine does not disappear right away, but gradually it is drunk there there are many generational consequences to have this first and second. i would like such a detail that ukraine does not have a country has a certain list of its obligations regarding the development of the culture of its citizens, the language, and so on, first of all

, ukraine should take care of the development of the ukrainian language second, second, she has to pay for the development of the languages ​​of the indigenous peoples. well, for example, people like the crimean tatars, who do not exist except in ukraine, no one cares anymore, and only in the third, in the third place, then with the remainder that remains. and depending on the speech situation, in particular, russians and so on further and so on, that is, this priority should be followed primarily because we already have the law on the functioning of the state language and we are seeing its first fruits, in fact, the legislation that concerns the languages ​​of indigenous peoples and then the idea of ​​national minorities has not yet progressed, and this is actually a big problem. hmm, i don’t know if the russian federation is using the lack of such a legal basis in its aggression, but anton, what do you think? i think that we need the first line the basis of priority is to observe where we

lack legislation of some executive documents, there is the level of setting the variable and so on, this is not to be done, because in russia, techisova and it is not a question of who they are, they are already mocking the republic there is no federation, they are perfect, it will destroy them in the end. ukraine, on the contrary, has quite a realistic, conscious , i would say, a very fair national policy towards other peoples, except for the part that is the political nation . i have a question for petrovych about what measures should be taken to strengthen and better shape ukrainian political identity, we understand that the matter is quite delicate, but we must immediately strengthen this direction, i emphasize the formation of the modern political identity of the

citizens of ukraine, whatever it should be in general, i am convinced that the language is actually extremely important, it is an indicator or a tool for the formation of this political nation, e.e., the election of a person of independent action of nationality in the ukrainian language as his language is actually one of these thresholds which well shows that he actually chooses ukrainian identity for himself. i am convinced that an important role in the formation of national identity should and does play some minimal set common ideas about the past is what the ukrainian institute of national remembrance does, because for me, a nation is first and foremost a community that has exactly those common ideas about the past and has a common desire to create the future together, and this is how a political nation is created in the xxi century and it seems to me that what is happening now in ukraine is in the face of this russian aggression when a lot of ukrainians are just now starting to discover history for themselves

a lot of ukrainians are just now starting to themselves to make this choice in the ukrainian language of culture and see their future only in the community, which is called the ukrainian nation, because it is this community that can protect them, it is for this community that they want to preserve the ukrainian state, well, this shows that the process that is happening now is precisely the process of national building speeding up national construction of course i wanted more attention from the state to this work, more resources for this , it is obvious that huge resources are going just to defense this is absolutely correct, but it is necessary to understand that culture is the second defense shaft against russian aggression after the army, and we equally need to support and develop our army and support the development of our culture. that is, these are the two defense shafts that will allow us to preserve our state, preserve our nation to do with the phenomenon of cancellation culture, if it concerns something

russian, we see that now this trend is gaining momentum, in my opinion, quite rightly, it is gaining momentum, considering for example the last incidents in the kherson region, where they have already put up big boards with convincing messages to the people of kherson that pushkin made a mark here and in general, this beautiful russian history, that’s all, anton, what do you think about all this russian culture? it really has an imperial component to a large extent, so for very simple historical reasons the vastness of its existence was the empire, accordingly, the majority of writers and poets were the singers of these empires, this empire, more precisely, or actually the empire of the soviet empire, which was also such an empire 2.0 simply on many issues, it is even more effective. in this way, everything except persian is completed, it needs to be removed from our

symbolic spaces. can be preserved but again, this whole story about russian culture is a second thing, but a lot, first of all, for your own yes, anton shrochnych is in touch with me, i hope that the connection with him is stable and not in fractions, you can hear us yes. accordingly, we understand that we are removing the imperial russian component from our i don't know worldview structure, we have to offer something that could replace it at an adequate level and quickly and qualitatively . the product can replace

and the culture, accordingly, how should we be with the comorative strategy, so on the one hand, we understand that to a large extent the ukrainian nation was formed under the influence of returning face to its past with on the other hand, we have the pantheon of modern and present heroes, and i sometimes have the feeling that a significant part of them, unfortunately, remain insufficiently covered, both in our media and in general in our public consciousness. for example, we know that a lot of people sacrificed their most valuable lives. yes, but on it is a great pity that somehow it is not reflected enough in the public sphere. i agree that it seems to me that even if we talk about the current war, this informational work lacks, er, some kind

of personalization of heroism, er, we all know and the world admires ukraine as a nation, a hero who resists uh, terrible invasions, very strong invasions, but these me have their own heroes, these names have biographies. it seems to me that just now in this informational marathon ideological news began to appear in videos that talk about specific people about their specific heroism, it is very good that it is about those people who died because this is truly the highest degree of heroism and at the same time, we do not forget about those heroes who remained alive because heroism is necessarily the dead and we must learn to respect living heroes as well, and it seems to me that the peculiarity of this particular war is that now, taking into account the fact that all ukrainians in all parts of ukraine are defending ukraine , now we have absolutely the opportunity to truly create a single pantheon of national heroes, a single panton of defenders, because now all ukrainians in all territories of ukraine together defend one ukrainian state, we did not have such a luxury

during the entire 20th century, very often ukrainians belonged to different empires to different parts empires very often, unfortunately, were forced to fight against each other. now we finally have our own state, we are united and we and our heroes are those who defend together next to each other from their national ukrainian state, so i think that this pantheon hero that will now be formed from of today's heroes, well, he plays a colossal role in the further formation of the ukrainian nation . studio espresso thank you for the always high-quality analysis and the view of the period. i would say that we need to deal with this right now. and it is good that the vision is slowly emerging. we still have a few minutes to provide the latest relevant information. we are following what is happening in brussels. where in the end they have to somehow make us understand what will happen

to the sixth package of sanctions, the president of the european commission, arsula fondelaien, believes that at the eu summit on may 30 and 31, the sixth package of sanctions will not be agreed upon, i do not expect that it will be resolved in in the next 48 hours, but i am sure that then such an opportunity will be my signal - the eu members are clear we have one key path to victory and that is solidarity with ukraine and the unity of the european union. actions will be excluded pipelines if budapest will have a guarantee to receive this oil even in the event of an accident on the pipeline understand so that to a large extent the european union is fed not thanks to the second wire friendship actually through sea ​​transportation and, well, important information from odessa, they began to take concrete structures installed after february 24 for the defense of the city, it is

not too early, so to speak, as a result of hostilities, the tightness of the ammonia pipeline branch in tolyatsi, odessa, odessa, this branch has not been used since the 14th year, the valves are closed, but ammonia it is now flowing out of it by itself, listen to the regional military administration and children according to the recommendations, then the word radio freedom, greetings, this is freedom, my name is vlasta lazur, we pray on the pages radio svoboda on facebook and on youtube, as well as on the espresso tv channel, among other things, we are currently talking about the sixth package of sanctions against russia, the situation around the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate and the counteroffensive in the kherson region, but we start with the events in the east of the country