you know such an application for the future sanctions policy towards russia, but so that we do not fool ourselves as in the 14th year that they say that the sanctions policy is effective, it is not so effective today. it is what we are discussing with you that gives us the opportunity, i emphasize once again, to state that it is not a very effective policy of the european union in terms of both economic and political, for example, if we take, again, the supply of oil to the countries of the czech republic, hungary, which is preserved for the european union, the problem arises of how they can create an equal competitive environment, because in general, let's remember the european union in the 60s of the last century, it was based precisely on the principles of equal competition, this was the basic rule for them, it was the basis on which they united and joined all the countries to which the violation of the conditions of competition will lead to that well because someone will get cheap energy sources, cheap oil, cheap gas,

etc. after these debates that took place yesterday, it is very difficult for brussels, they will reconsider their position , well, again, i am far from anything, but still, i hope very much. the european union market, well, in the 20th year, 45% of the energy market in europe is occupied by gas coal, oil, it is very much in the xxi, due to a number of factors, it decreased to the 21st, this is also a lot, it is necessary to look for it. well, the principle of equal competition should be extended to everyone, not only to the countries of the european union, and what i 'm talking about here is why swift is in this situation. it's just an eye of pity. if you disconnect only one bank , you need to connect the entire banking system. thank you , mr. volodymyr, the nickname of a political and economic expert. comments professional head of the charity to the new road was in touch with us

well, let's add that today actually appeared the conclusions of the european council regarding ukraine condemnation of another invasion of russia in ukraine and russia's calls to stop attacks on civilian objects in connection with the fact that these comments appeared that the leaders of the countries of the european union agreed to consider ukraine's application for eu membership at the next summit scheduled for june, after all we knew about it yes, but now this has already been officially announced and will be considered. this ukrainian questionnaire, the questionnaire has been filled out, it was previously submitted by the european commission to ukraine at the beginning of may. well, let's pause for a moment for an important informational video, which is dedicated to the topic of immigrants. and it will be a good introduction to our next conversation, and we are already connecting the russian representative of the

international center of the ukrainian victory of the people's deputies of the eighth convocation to victoria, who is going to gaga in order to advocate the interests of ukraine there and activate the topic of the tribunal against russia against putin and russia and war crimes of the russian army, we will be back in a moment, important information, we are watching and further analyzing the main events of our day, my mother and i now live in warsaw it is a very beautiful city, but kyiv is more beautiful for me. one day my country was attacked by russia, but we were lucky and my mother and i went to poland. i like it in poland, but i want to go home . i have water, i have a lot of friends in kindergarten, i really want to go home and i will return soon. i'll

be back i'll be back i'll be back i'll be back i'll be back i'll be back i'll be back i 'll be back ukraine i'll be back when we defeat the evil christians we'll return to our apartment i invite all poles to visit everything will be fine ukraine thank you thank you thank you support, get excited, tell our defenders how you feel about the military project from ukrainians, send a message to cool viber 099 214-640 and our presenters will announce everything immediately, everything will be ukraine, by the

way, about thank you, you can contact the silpo chain of stores so that they transcribe this voice accompaniment at these cash registers where a female voice says, thank you, that's just such a stupid moscow accent. well, in my opinion, think about it, we still have time to decide on the conclusions. that is, who has already headed the headquarters for dealing with captives means he is definitely the master head of ukrainian intelligence - by the way, this is news and the answer to the question of who will deal with the prisoner angle instead of ms. after all, he gave the ukrainians to ukraine, the defenders of mariupol from azovstal, but we can see that in the meantime the families of the

defenders are sounding the alarm and yesterday they actually held such a detailed briefing at which they announced the introduction of a new initiative that it's called eh women of eh what's it called women of steel yes, this is a public organization new council of wives and mothers and they turned to the ukrainian and foreign media in order not to be silent about this situation about the evacuation, which has not yet been crowned with a return home, the boys are not at home where are they, what is with them, what conditions are they in, we don't know now, we will also ask victoria about it. greetings, let's start with the uh before the

stories about where you are now and where you are going, we know that you are going to the hague, that at the beginning of march, the international center for ukrainian victory was founded in warsaw, poland, tell us about this initiative and who and with what from ukraine is going gaga this week, by the way, i can say that we were nets yesterday. how did you drive, because we were just turning on hanna's hook, hannus 's greetings were conveyed to you immediately, i conveyed them immediately, i was behind the wheel. warsaw, because we spend most of our time directly here. our center is really based in poland, because a lot of public activists , including former people's deputies , were forced to leave their positions and, accordingly,

most of us are in warsaw with our families a little bit more. based on security issues, what does our center do? our center actually deals with several areas of advocacy for these needs that currently exist in ukraine and those issues that require special attention from the international community. we deal with issues that related, for example, barvy to russian naftogaz, as we can see, there are already very serious changes in oil and this is a very positive signal, but it still depends on gas. the second issue is, of course, advocacy on issues related to humanitarian aspects and, accordingly including our military, and the issue of azov is on our agenda as one of the main and priority, because it is very unfortunate that after eurovision, in fact

, this topic simply disappeared from the coats of news papers, and you know, after it happened the so-called evacuation, in fact, i would not even call it that, so the questions of our heroes disappeared from the radar and in the newspaper, including my colleagues who will go there, they will ask to raise the question of war crimes, the question of prisoners , the question of concentration camps, psychiatric camps, all the horrors that are happening on our land with our people on the territory of ukraine and, by the way, outside ukraine, because we understand very well that there are hundreds of thousands of people, including children, this is also a very important issue, who were forcibly deported muscovites to russia and the fate of our citizens there is

actually unknown, and we are doing everything to start paying attention to it, to include international organizations, our partners in helping to return our people to ukraine, to return them in safe conditions and to do all in order for you to stop these tortures that are happening to our people. we are also familiar with other issues that are related, for example, to obtaining the status of a candidate for ukraine, the fact that we are now seeing certain processes taking place in european capitals, they people are somehow optimistic, and the question is starting to

be asked: is it time? status because our aspiration to the european union did not arise on february 24, we have been walking this road for a long, long time and all these maidans we had , including the last ones, the revolution of dignity and it was about our aspiration to be a part of a large european family, for which we ukrainians serve unconditionally ms. victoria well, i would like to dwell separately on the fact that our prisoners of war defenders of mariupol were actually released, we see that on may 29, the ombudsman of ukraine lyudmila denisova reported in her blog that

russia regularly continues to violate the geneva convention on the treatment of prisoners of war by beating them and subjecting them to severe torture and reported on the eerie details of the facts torture and ill-treatment by the occupiers of those of our defenders who were captured by the occupiers near mariupol, as told by the representative of the verkhovna rada. also regarding the women who were kept in the donetsk pre-trial detention center and actually placed 20 people in a cell for two people, so they did not give the opportunity to wash to use hygiene products, as the

ombudsman of polynya says, girls were forced to have sexual intercourse . you say that the topic of azov has disappeared from the front pages. i'll tell you what the election newspaper wrote about it the other day. has a very wide audience, the world's attention is actually focused on the situation with the defenders of mariupol and the defenders of azovstal, we know that world leaders called putin and asked him to deal with this situation and carry out such an exchange of prisoners of war, putin allegedly promised the chancellor of austria that such an exchange would be carried out, but at the moment we see that the situation remains unchanged and extremely disturbing, the relatives of the defenders of mariupol, the wives and mothers of the defenders of mariupol are also talking about this, and

this topic is being treated in general after the well there there are no positive news, but these how did you correctly say that there are doubts about the term evacuation since then she simply got into some information bank, this topic and we learn such news from polish sources and a plus against the background of this and we still see the thing is that now instead of iryna vereshchuk , the chief of ukrainian intelligence will deal with the issue of exchanges and the treatment of prisoners of war. to the defenders of mariupol according to our defenders mrs. viktoria will disappear, the connection with viktoria voytsytska will be

restored, but we have said a lot more with you, andriy, this is actually the situation. and it is extremely disturbing, and in particular they are talking about it, it is not us who are talking about it, but the ukrainian media are calling on the world media not to keep silent about the families of the defenders of mariupol because they say that they have stopped feeling this situation, they do not know anything about their relatives and actually, well, we allegedly heard filling in how it will help us, for example , to protect or return these people, that we will just be silent, i don't know, well, for sure, if everyone would be silent, then for sure sentsov would still be sitting in a russian prison, although maybe someone is banned and i liked it here in the country, because he is also a person who does not shut his mouth, who has a critical view, is a true

patriot, yes, the people of ukraine, strategy advisor to the minister of defense of ukraine in 2020, oleksandr well, i hope that you heard the last few minutes of our conversation, the connection with victoria voytsytska will disappear we wish success in the hague, we wish for a successful struggle and advocacy of ukrainian interests, and we know that this is also a very difficult process and that ukraine needs the support of the international criminal court here, which will, of course, direct its investigators to ukraine yes, but we also need not only a record, but also the effectiveness of the investigation with oleksandr hara . days good morning, well, the first

and most important thing is that we must remember that the russian federation is not a legal democratic state, and in fact they have dismantled international law, the privacy of international law in its own legislation, and therefore it is useless to hope that they will follow the spirit of ibuka international law. we have seen how much they have already destroyed hospitals, schools, other things, how many facts there were in fact, well, those that we consider genocide. that is, it is a normal practice and to hope that russia without pressure without the fact that she will understand what i mean, first of all, definitely putin, but also the pain of the population that supports this war. will they understand that there will be severe consequences for such actions, nothing can be achieved and it is certain that there are two approaches or a search for compromises . so schultz and macron are constantly calling putin and

trying to somehow hold on to this last little bridge and agree somewhere to peck, um, force the parties, as they often like to say , actually equating the victim with aggression, so that the parties start talking about something to talk i think it's useless uh actually there is another direction - it is an increase in pressure and i would like shumsky to call putin he said we are planning to use the oil barb we are planning to freeze such assets there we are planning transfer tanks to ukraine there are such and such there since we do not see a desire on your part to discourage giving ukrainian prisoners er release ukrainian citizens who are forcibly moved er to russian territory i am not talking about more than two hundred thousand children who were taken out of of the donetsk-lugai region, and by the way , from the point of view of international law, it is an act of

genocide when children are torn away from their own family or country and then they try to blur their identity, uh, let's say this. well, when they are accepted there by other families, that is, all these things they are difficult. i think that his only way is to increase the pressure from uh-uh, all the russian russians that we have are leaning on our territory, uh, to hope that they will be kept within the framework of international law. well, it's useless, that's what mr. alexander lavrov asked. recently he used such a term that uh, it's a collective event there, nato. the united states is waging a war with russia on the territory of ukraine. this is a so-called proxy war . the territories of other countries with the help of other armies, and

we can be critical of this, but on the other hand, look at mark dear, for example , the commander of the joint command and there of the united states, he will also make a statement in the pentagon, they use such a term as the management of equals during the war in ukraine and well, the question is simply our ukrainian question is that we are grateful for help and without it we would not be able to successfully deter the next enemy enemy, but on the other hand, is it good for us to be in the role of people who can be deterred our capabilities are also in fact, for example, offensive or defensive, depending on this, this, this, this moment, i remember again that at the end of march, there was a very interesting article by neil ferguson,

a historian of a well-known intellectual who publicly criticized the biden administration's bid for a war of attrition in ukraine. well, in our village, gorich has already said well that the time of the javelins is behind us. we do not have a guerrilla war here. we have a big, huge war with a very large army . that's all. that's a little bit of a question from several blocks. but in your opinion, are we really in this difficult situation or does the administration care about this collective measure, do they understand that it really is not a war of attrition, it is a little different, or do they actually consider a little bit as a tool, well, first of all, i want to say that this is not a proxy the so-called proxy war of this republic of donetsk and luhansk was a proxy war - it is when the citizens of a state or ukrainians were on the tongue, but they are fighting in the interests of another state and from the very beginning, you are great

you understand, as a dane, i can say that there is no separatism in donetsk until the 14th year, and i answered about now and what they are fighting for, and this is not about the russian speakers or the economic interests of donetsk, luhansk, it is actually russian interests, that is why it is there they are proxy forces, by the way, the first and second army corps are embedded in the armed forces of the russian federation from the very beginning. well , it is clear. why they do not have any autonomy. in the case of ukraine, this is another matter. to choose the future that we say we need as citizens, not in moscow, washington or anywhere, and therefore in this sense, we are not proxies, we are in our interests. they partially coincide with the united states, but not in the sense that the usa is sleeping and dreaming of how to destroy this russia celebrates russia, yes

, russians very often say that this spirituality, this wealth that is there, they have always caused envy in the west, and all these napoleons, hitler and others are trying to take it all away, well, this is nonsense, this is propaganda, and it is quite primitive. that is why it is there is no uh how was the evolution and thinking of the american in our direction let's start with obama uh obama did not want to support ukraine in a serious way, we remember how poroshenko said that we cannot defend ourselves with sheets and we need weapons, but they did not listen to him understood, and my mother starts from the position that ukraine is extremely important for russia and that russia is close by . it can escalate faster and more than the united states with its limited resources, and it actually went on like that for a long time until it was biden's administration, then the republicans come. i'm not talking about trump. i'm not talking about people like, er, herbert mcmaster,

who was the national security adviser, or the general who was the head of pictogon. they realized that the states then started giving us the things we needed. at that time, there were actually anti-tank weapons, because the russians used anti-tank weapons. what, let’s say, is the serious s-400 that was shot down. and in such conditions, when there is no aviation and they pretended that they are not there and that is why they did not use their own aviation in the territory of donbas on yours in the airspace of ukraine, then tanks definitely became heavy equipment became the most powerful weapon that could overturn these theses, let's say so on the field of armor and that's why

the role of anti-tank means, do you remember that we just actually did what the tanks did not come up to the range of the shot and when the 24th was already approaching more precisely, it was somewhere in november no. last year, the americans already learned about ecology about russia's plans to introduce this small victorious victorious war. they started declamation and then they realized that diplomacy does not stop, they began to give us more and more weapons so that the russians understood that the price of the invasion would be high and then a miracle happened, well at least for the russians and for the russians unpleasant for the americans it is good that ukraine did not fall into systematic resistance and repulse, which the defense forces gave, because we were given literally two hours and two days to capture kyiv. and it was definitely such a pleasure in the west and they

decided that it was necessary to increase aid, various other things began to be given. and actually, when ukraine already showed the ability to liberate the territory, then it was already about heavy weapons, and now we have howitzers and some other things that are very pleasant for the russians , and i hope that by this week we will hear about the russian federation this is an extremely interesting weapon that can break the course of this war . exhaustion for the quick conclusion of the all-ukrainian victory, is it possible to be so sad what you say? i would say there is a limiting factor from the very beginning of the war, so i mean february 24, it is necessary . and 90 is how many today, 7 or 8 days? well, belin said that the united states

or its allies do not want and are not going to make direct contact or confrontation with the russian federation, because it will lead to a nuclear conflict, and that is why this restriction is actually true. yesterday, biden said that he would provide ukraine with these mlrs facilities, but not such that we could target russian territory, meaning the russian federation and its recognized international borders. therefore, this is a limitation and its decision, or they cannot give us those things that would simply end literally in one a week this war, but the biden administration did not give up on this idea that this war should continue for some time, it is profitable. well, they would definitely like it as soon as possible, and that is why they are pushing the europeans to sanctions, they are pushing them more and spend on defense and give us heavy

weapons, but they want to avoid a direct confrontation with russian armed forces, understood. thank you. and there is another important point that i would like to discuss, namely the intensification of negotiations. of food security, ways of unblocking ukrainian ports and cooperation in the security sphere, and it is known that on the same day erdogan spoke with the president of russia volodymyr by putin, turkey and according to erdoğan, plans to organize a meeting between russia, ukraine and the un in istanbul and to participate in a possible monitoring mission in ukraine, if we have reached an agreement in kyiv, we have 2 minutes for the news mr. oleksandr, share your thoughts about yesterday's actual victory day or was it is it effective that you managed to agree on something or did you agree to agree and is it possible to have such a meeting in istanbul or is there, in principle, something to talk about with

vladimir putin now, please, with him there is definitely a what can i say, but i don't think that the conditions are still being created when he will need us to talk, because he thinks he can push this war. for us, it definitely says that we are losing people. you are losing the infrastructure of the territory, but also for russia. this war is devastating. i am not talking about the world, you remembered and started with hunger, you know that thanks to the russians. of course, in quotation marks, more than 49 million will be added to the 250 million who are starving now and 1.6 billion who are not eating enough now, only at the beginning of this year, until may, more than 60 % was the growth of food supply and there are definitely countries where it hits extremely hard on the citizens' own pockets and they simply cannot support their families, and this will mean conflicts, if we are talking about the middle east, this means the growth

of islamists and other extremism wars and definitely this will mean waves of refugees towards europe and therefore definitely that it is not interesting to anyone in europe except definitely the russian federation should try for this for this gradualism, conditionally speaking, in the problems they created and receive bonuses in the form of the cancellation of uncertain sanctions or pressure on ukraine so that we agree to give up a part of the territory or some other foreign policy concessions. therefore, for now, i think that there cannot be any positive moments from these negotiations. the russian federation is not interested in them yet, president zelenskyi constantly says that he wants to meet because he absolutely understands that lavrum does not solve anything and does not affect foreign policy and security issues. of the president of ukraine stop this aggression and killing of ukrainians