of course, everything has changed now. but it will be as the name said that everyone should go home. all this is who is not yet a criminal. who is a criminal should answer. thank you, ilmera , we were with chok-saul. and now, and now, eskanderbari, the head of the crimean tatar resource center, is with us, mr. eskander. good day. good day. i saw a post on your facebook page yesterday. now during the war, from the henichesky district, from henichesky to the crimea, this is already this, but it is clear from where to where, in the name of the mayor, he said that

ah, about a third of the people from the new oleksiyivka left well, they evacuated because of fear of repression that according to the situation of these newly captured temporary areas of the kherson region, where many live, including representatives of the krasnotar people, and what is currently happening in the occupied crimea, what are the impressions of the people with whom you communicate and whom you quote almost at least and it's anonymous, but it's valuable because of such strong security . the man who shared this information with me, i didn't voice everything about the name and didn't voice his gender, and that's why i first of all tried to demonstrate how an ordinary citizen of ukraine perceives these the processes that are taking place now

in the newly occupied territories as well as in the a-a occupied by the temporarily occupied crimea. well, what is going on? what and in relation to lawyers, they already carry out uh-uh administrative uh-uh issue a decision on an administrative violation and put them on trial for yes on other candidates a-ah-ah обменяламилевые gave and five days and the rest established an arrest and also uh for the winter and also 8 ticks to magazatov ivera. that is , we see a different direction, we see that they fear even the active work of lawyers, and

why do they do it because we know that there is boxing and foxy in the pre-trial detention center, there are many people who are from the new temporarily occupied territories and from melitopol melitopol district, zaporizhzhia region, kherson region, that's why lawyers can gather more information in this way, for example , that's how it was with danylovych, we had separate sources of information about what it was, if everything is now a pre-trial detention center, and even a lawyer, they did not give him information because they did not register these people, who are only at this time, and as for the new occupied territories, meaning genichesky district and melitopol, melitopol district, there is such information that they they also collect people and take them to the territory of

crimea, and for that, well, the bigger one, well, first of all, are women and they work at military facilities at military facilities, and for example, we know that a woman with her daughters was sent there also that there are people there and they are, for example, lost or there in other military military units ah, what does this say? this says that it is possible that they sent their e-e civilian e-e orders, but to the crimea and to the military units they use us as slaves compatriots er women so that they serve them and that is, they are afraid that it is possible for the ukrainian military to build er military units of the russian federation on the territory of crimea, and

in addition, i want to draw attention to the fact that er illegal penetration of housing continues er in the henichesky district they come, they can uh, there uh, if there is a man in the house, he can take him and tie him to a pole or something. we have a small problem, but after hanging it on the trestle, i can hear it, but the connection is interrupted a little. let's do it again let's try tell me it seems like there is a sound there is we can continue say say yes yes that is, i can pick up my husband, take him out, take him out and beg in the field or to the cemetery in the cemetery, then

people wake up and we know that in 17 he connected with up to 50 people, for example, now he receives unknown information i am about the edem brothers and the ripakasanovs, who were, well, you were forcibly kidnapped in may, may 3 , 2022, and we still have information, but the previous information was that they were in the 17-torture house of genius and we also became aware and about oleksandr pavlenko, this is a dresser and a sailor, and he was until may 16. they went and took him away this morning and until now. it was in kherson and it is not known now. what we

do, we first of all contact relatives, we collect information, and then we also prepare information for the un working group on violent abductions , that is, this working group can send a request to the state that controls the territory, that is, to the russian federation and from another sides we also need we also collect information er it is with the help of a lawyer with the help of our additional sources er it is important they are located er still completely in syropol or vymishakh er cities not freedom mr. master still allow such a question you er mentioned that it is in the center about the fact that we fear that members of the mejlis in the territory of occupied crimea may be subject to some kind of repressive measures and that the occupying russian authorities may actually try to act in this direction to what extent in general

let's say how well it functions in which conditions, there is a mechlis in the occupied territories in the crimea to occupy the territory. well, we really have in the crimea and the science has fallen on the territories, there are members of the interleaves of local er local and er regional students, but er, they don’t announce it, they talk about it, because we are about we speak of them as activists and also of the national movement. forest er and banned between and recognized recognized it er this is a city organization therefore it is dangerous for

us as well it is important that self-organization is preserved so that those people are regulated and they are free who will be able to self-organize not only the system at the right time well, the people should also self-organize it is very important for us and it is very important for us to work in that direction because it is not possible to take an active public action, it is valuable, but the time will come when it will be necessary for civilians to actively take to the streets and and supported ukraine, actually, this requires the preservation of this coordination of information, and i , in general, now what are you saying? with some horror, but also with admiration, i see direct parallels with the dissident movement in the 60s and 70s, this is andriy, this is a dissident movement, he is, in a certain way, clippings from the tatar movement national or i was told by the dissidents who

published this chronicle of current events, this is such a publication from yes, they took an example precisely in the person of the crimean tatars in exile, everything is simple to me about the defenders, the associates of the center successfully we have the dawn of our national movement. in addition , we are planning to hold an event in the near future. representatives of the leading peoples of the russian federation will also participate. america and it is necessary in the near future we will hold such an online event where we will , er, hold such parallels with the seven times that were in soviet times, as well as what to do in the future how will we provide rights the indigenous peoples of the russian federation and what will happen

next after the victory of scandirva about current political events, i wanted to ask about current political events , including your activities, there were rumors yesterday and it was confirmed to me by the editor of ukrainian pravda that there really is a plan to change to replace lyudmila denisova in the position of e-e hmm ambuci e-e if you know why this is being done is it good or is it good or bad is your assessment god you cooperate closely and that is exactly well, one of those main topics that your besides the stator resource person deals with the center, well, first of all, i also heard that there is well, at first, when lyudmila was given the position of denisov , there were different opinions, and there were also a few about protective organizations, and others had a different opinion, and they

opposed this candidacy, but for now , well yesterday i heard that there are some problems and in that direction well, now i can't fully inform or add any information because i'm still very good with the information about what and how and in what way but but i think that for us it is important that the system itself works well the institute is authorized for human rights and it does not matter who will lead this system, the important thing is that it will work as well as it works. it really works, there are both pluses and minuses, and the work of the office of authorizations is new, but we need more now a unified

to join forces in order to, unfortunately, during the communication and i will add, if we now have a connection from the map, i will simply say that who is it about as a replacement for the excellent denisova - this is a deputy bezula deputy churai deputy mykola tyshchenko, the same mykola, well, i'm not here to comment i will, if i may, say that er, bezula and kachura are less than 40 years old, and supposedly 40 is the legal age, so they were bezula at least nine years ago, so

it can grow up quickly. well, i just see it with someone i'm also shocked that there is absolutely serious discussion that mykola tyshchenko can still become an ombudsman, well, tymurlyvchuk wrote about this, uh, also about a representative of a human rights organization that well, for now, i do n't have a second source, i won't say what he wrote about well, they discuss absolutely a lot she commented well on this candidacy in my evening primetime, but i won't quote it now. well, it's just really not even a funny joke. if it's a joke, well, today is not april 1, and today is not the end of the war, but today was the end of the communication. it's sudden from the skandarembars, something is wrong, but there's a scandal, let's establish a connection and probably next time will be better, thank you, thank you, thank you from kanderovets for joining the

next one. and we have a table guest, or rather, a very dear guest everyone is a guest we love er this is jamal sana khanim hello gray maleko little oh i haven't seen you for more than a month i haven't talked to you eh i know what eh you are , to put it mildly, working here are her many awards and from the atlantic council aa tim not recognized as a winner of the award established leadership of artists from the atlantic council of the 22nd year and uh you spoke at the global city summit zennau and auctions an auction was arranged from the sale of a dress that you performed at eurovision come on yes i won't news this this read just tell this as is as is as you see it everything with their impressions, someone counts

. baby, what artist's name leads, it's really such a powerful award, they show a photo from birmingham, where we met with ed sheeran and other stars of british american music, we collected there somewhere around 20 pounds, er, millions, er, 20 million pounds, weather, er, shorter e last week i was er at global city now where i really my first

new york was such that in fact the first er evening it was the performance itself from 1944 and the opportunity to say from the stage because it was there on this platform that the issue of er refugees was discussed poverty , hunger, and, of course, i talked about the war and insisted that the world is really smaller than we think, if we think that hunger is somewhere in africa, it does not depend on the same. well, that is, the war in ukraine and hunger in africa are also related things if the war will last longer ukraine is all the more dangerous for the world of hunger in africa and so on, so the first part

consisted of a speech from the oven, and the other part of global city now consisted of a panel of speakers, and i also had the opportunity to tell about the horrors that some kind of russia, uh, in ukraine, uh, about hmm, about what, uh , again, uh, of course, when it's been three months, three months, we've been constantly talking about the war and constantly these pictures for a world in which everything is fine, i 'll tell you now where i am there was, for example, with events for collecting funds for various needs there from humanitarian needs, medical needs for children, for the armed forces of ukraine , and it's all different, different, such events that collected funds,

different foundations that collected everyone for ukraine, er , i can say yes, in three months, there is really such attention and er compassion, it er, it becomes so a little , yes, yes, yes, we understand, but still, my uh, my goal, wherever i am, uh, is to say that there is a war going on, and every day, unfortunately, uh, um, pictures , pictures, for you, they don't change, but for us, they don't just some photos or er statistics for us this is our life for us this is our country and always i'm saying the same thing already, no matter how it was, i don't know if it's monotonous for them there, but it's still important for me to say about it,

there was a big event in kornedih, where all british musicians different genres of classics, jazz, musicals gathered a-a in order to raise funds for ukraine i think you can correct me, they had time on the internet 350 uh-uh thousands of dollars were collected because all the tickets uh-uh went uh-uh an opera singer came to help ukraine her husband is african-american, her husband went to ukraine as a volunteer to treat her, and only there she went on stage and said that he just came back. when we are in ukraine, this is really a test of humanity, because this is a war that

we did not want, this is a war that we did not provoke and so on and so on they have to understand that war is a different thing, although i constantly say that there are many in the world, and so on. and so on, my goal is to talk about the fact that this war in the center of europe is a completely different evil. which has come and which the world must stop with sanctions. i don't know who is who in their own field of politics through the political path of sanctions. this is a long way to but people should do something to collect funds, because when we talk about humanitarian aid to ukrainians, it seems that it comes every day in large amounts, my friends, yes, there are a lot of us, we need

a lot of weapons, we really need a lot of food, we really need a lot of everything, because we many times when i am in iceland, i talk about the fact that iceland has a total population of 430,000 people. i am talking about the fact that when mariupol was initially occupied, 500,000 were under occupation, and more than a million ukrainians were deported illegally. e to russia, then they really have a better understanding of isla, which is fine, and they have never known war, for them it is necessary to tell it more, um, in some bigger colors, and so on, such a life , such a life and in the same way, i was just counting 20 million

pounds, 350,000 dollars here and there, and my question is so funny, in fact, we still have a little morning program, you can say yes to jamala and how did you feel about the fact that the pink panama is still on at the auction, kalusha stole more money than jamala's dress, well, well, i'm generally happy with everything good luck to the guys and the real eh that the guys really won and now they sold their award and the panama for such a large amount, my god, how am i, i was so happy that they sold my dress in which i walked the red carpet in kyiv for 5,000 €. so i i thought that i still have to sell, if it is true. it will help our guys in the armed forces, because every time i receive a letter from

my friends, it is very sad that there is not enough of this, there is a lack of some specific weapon, and there was such a thing the situation when i was again at a charity event in london is close to that i stood or christmas johnson and he uh and they tell me texting my friends say we need a uh drone i say good yes i will say well because i use every every every every moment uh of course i my uh m -m my weapon this is my voice this is my music eh which can be more useful now than ever but if there is such a situation as for example there will be politicians nearby and i understand that this is a completely different world then i had a meeting with the prime minister of

italy at the atlantic council ceremony where he also received an award and uh no uh no looking at the way italy is behaving in the political field, well, for us, not very well, let's be honest, but what he said immediately during the speech, it was just wow, because he expressed that it is absolutely necessary to close the ceremony to hear that he said he said that the war in ukraine is 100% a threat to the whole of europe he said that he will help ukraine with everything he can so the whole evening was dedicated to ukraine again after all, the meeting with the

diplomats and serhii dizlytsi in new york, yes we ourselves discussed what else we could do, and they organized this concert in canada hall. we discussed what exactly we can do for people from ukraine and what is so important that serhii expressed his opinion. we must forget about the crimean tatars, although now we all say that no matter where i am, i am a ukrainian, but i was pleased that it is important for the world to understand that a ukrainian is how i don't know, it's a position, it's a nationality, it's all this is our life and uh, and he uh, from the complaint, pointed out the deportation of crimea

the tatars compared it with the deportation that took place in mariupol and so on. well, that is, it’s kind of anyway. eh with politicians eh hm where i still use these meetings so that what we can do eh creative way eh because of course eh in the political again hm field eh this somehow everything happens longer and i, uh, even in new york i felt some kind of despair. what, like, three months i'm restless every day, i try to do something and there is this feeling, girly, feminine, i don't know that i have

to hear it all and everyone has to stop our uh, our suffering and so on but of course it doesn't happen so quickly if we wanted to but there is faith in the armed forces is faith in the fact that all ukrainians are now united by one single thought, how to return home, how to win, and everyone now volunteers, when did i receive yes even this award in washington i said that i receive it for all artists for all the artists who are currently collecting exhibitions uh, i don’t know, auctions, they sell their things, i don’t know who, what, who, i just don’t know, feeds the elderly, who helps uh, saves animals, every ukrainian is now uh, an absolute

absolute inspiration for me, uh, and that that now the brand of ukrainians as brave people and free people is really being popularized. this is absolutely true. because that is what we all are . i want to speak my own language and walk my own way to my land i don't even have any questions to tell you, because you have become not only a famous singer worldwide, but also in many countries, this is de facto the case here, and besides, a very good publicist, who, as an editor, i tell you, who simply briefly and clearly explains to those people

who are not in context which war - it didn't touch what's happening uh quite emotional but quite restrained and it's very cool i know that you never never never have forever take care and glory to ukraine and we will definitely win thank you very much jamal i'm well huh i'm real i was simply inspired by her something besides the talent of the singer and much more than just the talent of the singer, she is a person with a capital letter. thank you for your attention, everyone, thank you. this is the end of our program