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we will convince paragrai we will win that you are not news together we are strong congratulations friends on the air one plus one project night watch program in which we analyze the issues that concern every ukrainian and today we are talking about the legalization of weapons in ukraine 80% of respondents support the right to act everyone on the short barrel or on time such an initiative in the conditions of war and what secret meanings the authorities put into this project, we will analyze with the minister of internal affairs denys knostrskyi the psychology of war as not of god's will in the trenches and in evacuation what happens in the minds of military women in the rear and children under shelling, can a child see the horrors of the occupation they have seen? oil treason. the eu refused
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to impose a complete ban on the import of fuel from russia and will not give up putin's gas. which of putin 's supporters rules the roost in europe and whether in fact, everything is so bad in the night watch studio natalya ostrovska works for you yevhen kuksin andria orlyak and i yevhen plinskyi and today we will talk about the topic that has been the most resonant in our society in recent days, the topic of gun legalization friends who have already voted in action well, i have already voted and i am for the truth is with a few, but i will explain in more detail later, but for now it’s not like a small spoiler for me, the procedure for legalizing a short-barreled gun, to put it mildly, is absolutely ok if it will work well, it was always like getting driver's license. personally, i have not yet decided and i want to find out on today's broadcast together with
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our speakers whether i am for or against and vote. after our broadcast, on the one hand, if an attacker breaks into my apartment , i will pick up the phone while i call the police . you feel more protected with a weapon. but on the other hand, the impulsiveness of our people is very difficult to predict. now it has become the subject of a survey at the level of the authorities , that is, i have my own version of why this is happening right now, but i think that it will continue to you . will best illustrate the mood of the society, and it is better to start this vote of ukrainians on the relationship of action with regard to whether the legalization should be short-barreled, and with such a stale one, i will look at the results at lunch
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on may 31. and what was at that time, this is my position more than 1 million 600,000 ukrainians have already expressed their opinion, of which 19% are short-barreled, but for special needs. and what are these special needs? i think it will be necessary to clarify, well, it’s a big mystery. few people there understand that , in fact, these details are in the hands of the minister, and then there are a few numbers - this is important 59% for a short barrel for personal protection and only 22% against but now for comparison this is the data of the survey group rating in february 2021 and look at the right of a private person to own a firearm supported by only 23% against 75 that is a year ago the data were opposite and vice versa almost 80% did not support it in a year, everything has changed, 80% support it, but it seems that we all understand that the changes happened not in a year, but in the last 3
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months, yes, the war showed that everyone wants to be able to defend themselves, the occupation in irpen says it's a pity that i didn't have weapons to knock down at least one occupier. you know what they say. well, these are the opinions. and i conducted a survey on my instagram page and did not expect the results. when the results came out, 531 people voted for the legalization of weapons and 428 against, and the discussion on the social network played out simply. it got hot and let's hear what arguments the users of the social network gave. i don't want to have a gun, but a rabid neighbor can have one, and that's scary, especially in small towns where men chop their wives with an ax, or vice versa. on the 23rd, i wrote that i'm against it, but after buchi irpenya and other terrible news, i for for and once again for what truth training courses are needed so that everything is at the
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legislative level by the parties of the unified novokashina, there are enough adequate ones somewhere, you will look at someone incorrectly according to their opinion and what a bullet in the head catches acquaintances from all over america say terrible things, just like at school. children shoot and retired women shoot each other's wheels if you park in her place, you're a fool. i'm against it, although at the beginning of the war i was in favor, but it's good to think and see what's happening in the usa. i think it's not an option. on one condition, that the certificates needed for the purchase of weapons are not sold to anyone, when i think about the occupiers, it is better to have weapons at home, friends. i think that everyone has noticed that discussions have unfolded around this topic not only in social networks, even in our nizrum the day before yesterday, when we discussed this topic with colleagues, we were literally divided, everyone was much divided into two camps, some categorically for,
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some categorically against. everyone has their own arguments . they are now trying to solve it with this draft law and with this initiative by asking, so i think that here it is necessary to turn to the first source and talk to the minister of internal affairs denys knastrosky i hope that he will help to understand that. and what , in fact, were the meanings laid down by the authorities when they started to initiate this and right now. good evening, mr. denys, good evening, thank you very much for joining our broadcast at such a time to our night watch . the first question would have been asked on february 23, the parliament voted in the first reading on bill 5708 on the right to civilian firearms, 274 deputies supported this bill, and in fact, he was ready for it in the second reading as well
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they will vote, the law will be passed and everything will be ok, but suddenly this survey in action appears and again this topic begins to resonate in society and they begin to discuss it, and well, the logical question is why was this survey in action initiated and what are the results of he was expected and well, what does it give anyway, but we conducted a survey for what? well, first of all, i want to say that this topic is really extremely hot and there is always a lot of discussion around it. even if we are talking about surveys in action, which are still by the way continues and i offer citizens to participate in this survey. it set a record for the number of people who voted at all through this survey tool. today, there are more than 1 million 680,000
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citizens who actively expressed their opinion. i think that it is not there is still time to go, and i think that there are more than 2 million polls, and we will hear the opinion of the people for this period, the day when the law was adopted in the first reading, you correctly called it was the day before the war, and in fact today we understand that ah, you and i we have been living for 90 days in a different reality, a reality that needs to be studied, that needs to be understood if , for example, a year ago, i remember very well a survey conducted by sociological services showed that ukrainian society as a whole is against e and does not support the idea of ​​a-a ownership of short-barreled firearms in particular with pistols today, during the war, when we have tens of thousands of weapons distributed, which today are trophy weapons
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. when the culture of owning a weapon must be brought out clearly, we must change the approaches to training in the use of weapons, we must bring out the number of shooting ranges in countries, because the motto proclaimed by this dwarf putin, yes, the demilitarization of ukraine should obviously be the answer for me, exactly the opposite, the militarization of ukraine is the answer and with the correct answer to the question what should we do with the future, and what kind of militarization should it be, there is no doubt that it should be transponded - transported precisely into the culture of owning weapons and here we are we are divided, we are now talking about pistols, the biggest debatable issue, but there is no debate that during the independence of ukraine, there should finally be a law on the circulation of civilian
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weapons, because it did not exist for all these 30 years, in fact, which we have an independent ukraine, it is still regulated by the order of the ministry of the interior affairs and of course i am absolutely convinced and the parliamentarians are also convinced of this today that it is time to translate this into the framework of the law . what were the previous ones, this is a question of the circulation of sports weapons, prize weapons and other weapons that are located in hundreds of thousands of tables that are in the hands of today's citizens, the very first days of armed aggression showed that we issued tens of thousands of weapons to large cities and this well, i i think that without exaggeration it can be said that it played a key role in the fact that we did not let the enemy in. the big cities gave a worthy fight back
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, and in fact, which is now continuing in the thickest positions. thank god, it is already far from kyiv is far from chernihiv, far from sumy, yet not far from kharkiv. but at the same time, i believe that it will also be quite far and safe. that is why we are now starting this new discussion about the new reality that we live with you today. it must be studied in particular through action and you asked what do i expect? of course, i expect a new segment of the new ukrainian society in the answer to this difficult question, and the answers today are, in principle, completely different than a year ago, and a year ago, society was inclined to the point that it is impossible to own weapons even at home for protection of one's own home today, society expresses it in a different way, that is, in fact, we are talking about an active number of people who voted for it today, about 2 million, most of them say that they are in favor of ukrainian citizens owning short-barreled weapons, including pistols, and
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being able to use them for home defense, just now you said about the militarization of society, about what, well, did you remember how weapons were distributed on the streets in the first days of the war? we saw it. we all remember it with you , but in society now they are talking about the number of illegal weapons in their hands can be called an approximate number and does this bill somehow solve the problem of illegal weapons in the hands of ukrainians, illegal weapons are a problem, the war in ukraine continues in 2014, and the number of weapons that appeared on it is measured today by hundreds of thousands of illegal of illegal weapons that are not registered, in fact, the way to make weapons legal is precisely this law, so that it can be used as much as possible, but in
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addition, it is one of the new issues that this law has not yet addressed the law because it was voted in the first reading before the beginning of the large-scale armed aggression of the russian federation, the issue of legalization of trophy weapons, in fact, today there is a very large number of automatic weapons that left slides on our land today are also illegal weapons, they are registered, they are registered somewhere, people just are used so far for here because of the armed age or the aggressor, but in the future we will discuss the options, in particular, if the person wants to keep it for himself, and one of the options is to register it, to set p- means for the possibility of introducing only single fire, that is, not automatically single fire, that is, in this way, this machine gun becomes a carbine and is usually legalized er and is given to a person for use if it meets all the criteria er, but this is also a normal way for that
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in order to actually legalize this large number of trophy weapons that are on hand today regarding the draft law on the legalization of weapons, it is known that it was adopted in the first reading and ukrainian practice shows that until the second reading with ukrainian draft laws can radically change, in particular, if you believe the documents in the first reading, the draft law says that weapons are legalized, you can keep them at home . will be worn even on the street, at least this is how they make it clear, and this is probably the most logical question, and how do you see that in the new realities of new conditions and this legalization of weapons will be the first thing a-a we all have to understand that here is not the fact that the first and second reading or between them yes between them today we have a chasm, in my opinion, a historical
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social civilizational chasm lasting almost 100 days, the first one, which is called a large-scale war, and a reassessment of a lot of things about how ukrainians generally treat weapons, as far as we can to take arms for the eternity of the aggressor and my answer yes, we can, we are worthy to own arms, but of course it should be gradually and consistently very balanced, because along with the right to own arms, we must not forget that every person has the right and is guaranteed the right to safety for his own safety, including from a person who can have this weapon in front of you, that is why i support the position regarding the region in kyiv on the road , they personally had such a conflict there two years ago, i take my children to school and on the road, i didn't share something with another car. well, he opened the next
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window and just pointed a gun at me. and uh, well , analyzing it later, uh, i thought until now, if i had a gun, well, i would have pulled it out, sorry to shoot. well, because i have two children in my car yes, yes, i just turned into a statue, yes, i froze and i just didn’t understand what we were, what should i do, yes , the driver’s level of adequacy worked, he didn’t shoot, he didn’t shoot, yes, but the story ended with nothing. yes, i wrote a statement there, but there is another history and here are such cases. they are, well , and there are millions of them, and everyone understands that in any case, a person will grab a gun and use it, believing that there is now a threat to life, because ukrainians have grown up a lot in their consciousness in the last months during the months of the war but in order to just walk down the street with a gun. i think that well, it is really still too early. we have to pass. i want to
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clarify in p. wording well, there is a location, in fact, we are talking about the possibility of buying and storing a gun, it is tired to use it only for us to protect the home itself, and the rest of the weapons can be used and have the right to only law enforcement officers and military personnel who perform their own duties have to wear them, this actually means for special needs, i.e. special needs of law enforcement and military personnel, as well as for storing weapons for protecting one's own home, actually regarding the bill, as we all know, there were two bills, the main one is the so -called alternative in the first reading came the main and a-a but about it and many not theses
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against are expressed, in particular, by representatives of the association of gun owners, they often have many arguments they are completely clear, i will not list all of them, but one gender that a-a often the owner of the argument explains the representative of the association of gun owners is that a-a the bill that considers the principle in the first reading will enable the ministry of internal affairs and the so-called monopoly in relation to the registration of this entire permit system from the fact that you can respond to such statements, well, in fact, the ministry of internal affairs very often hears such claims about the fact that it has monopolized this story and it really has been in recent years and there have always been problems with corruption with prize weapons, which issues did you also solve there, mr. denys, by depriving people , that is, the issue of monopoly is that andriy says that there is a fear that this will not create a corrupt
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component of corruption accounts. there are always abuses, let's be honest, first of all, from any which a-a corruption abuse helps only one order, the order is defined not in the statutory hidden action, which is known by a separate number of people, but in a clear order defined by law or in the arms circulation register, which will be clear which it will be possible to check with a competent authority , for example, the security service of ukraine or the state bureau of investigation, and in which it will be clearly and openly recorded who has the right to a weapon and who should possess it, by the way, this is very necessary, because in fact the register of hunters was important for us in the first days of the war, we they raised it and also appealed to the hunters so that they would help in the event of armed aggression, do you remember that in fact tens of hundreds of such young and not so
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young people with weapons and hunting weapons gathered near kyiv in the kyiv region they also took active or armed aggression and many subversive groups were eliminated. thanks to them and others. therefore, this is the first clear order that is defined in the law. the only register that will be kept by the administrator will be the ministry of internal affairs, but all law enforcement agencies will have access to it. for the purpose of checking and determining the interaction so that we can understand how we move forward mr. denys, what to do with the fact that a permit for mental health in ukraine can be obtained by anyone today and even a mentally unhealthy person well, yes, here obtaining certificates is also a separate story, you can also buy orders there, how to solve this issue, yes, it can also be changed, we absolutely understand it, and what today is not only access to
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weapons yes, but also access to military services, access to certain professions that are important today, who make an extremely responsible decision, therefore , of course, we understand that a lot must change after the end of this terrible war, as in particular the ministry of health before during the war, a number of initiatives were taken so that these certificates could be the most objective and could be obtained only when a person really meets the criteria that are defined , we hope that we in the editorial office before the broadcast of e-e tried to find an answer to how the legalization of e-e weapons can help solve the issue of illegal weapons with the same trophy that you mentioned, we came up with such a model, did you think about such an option that, for example, people who have illegal weapons in their hands after the war well, they got them at the front yes
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for example, a trophy, they can there, for example , turn to the ministry of internal affairs, hand in this trophy weapon and receive a completely legal short barrel for it, and so on. in this way, we will create a mechanism for the collection of illegal weapons and in fact, yes, we will regulate this issue, there is such a version, it has the right to exist well, we also discussed many different options, one of which i mentioned during our conversation with you today is in the case when a person, after all, having acquired a trophy weapon in battle or having found it and wants to to keep it so that she can convert it into a single fire and legally register it to keep it as a carbine, and whether she can get it, for example, to blacken it for a pistol will depend on the decision of the parliamentarians of the deputies in the
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verkhovna rada, which of the options are they will be able to support what we are discussing with you now if it is allowed, for example, the purchase of pistols for storage to protect one's home is one concept and this is if it is not allowed as it was foreseen in the first the drafting of this draft law was in this way, of course, the last question is, when is the second reading of this draft law and when is it possible for it to enter into force, well, this is not a question for me, it is a question for our parliamentarians, who today are actively working on finalizing the draft to the second reading of this law, there are many such a large number of amendments a-a i am convinced that the discussion that we are conducting with you will definitely take place and will be transferred to the parliament, unfortunately
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, now is the time for such long discussions in he is quite limited in the parliament. he usually works there one day per week, so i can not clearly predict when this bill will be passed. and you are the parliament, but the fact that we are discussing this topic with you today, the fact that the survey is being conducted will undoubtedly affect the final version of this law

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