before him, before her, this did not happen, that is, they were only the office of the battalion in kyiv. she created regional offices and all regional offices are still working. there are still representatives of the authorized region, that is, the institution reaches every city and every corner of ukraine. what happened yesterday is just a political matter. and i think so, as i say this frankly. because i think so, that even media women were not liked in the president's office, because at the beginning of the war, bossman's officer became such a platform for the dissemination of information about the war crimes of the russian federation against ukraine and recently she was quoted a lot by the international media for figaro bbc, all elements , that is, well, such a level. the office of the president of ukraine did not like it, and that is why she was so

jealous of her, and that is why. so, you understand that this is just vile that is, they did it in one day without uh, um, consultations with the public, without the fact that they just dismissed someone from the candidacy of the new illegitimate ombudsman, what not to discuss with us, and what about this by the way, at this moment, they are saying that appear in the list of potential ombudsmen, mykola tyshchenko or maryana bezugla, and their names are also mentioned, but returning to the procedure, the question to mr. synyutka is, in your opinion, where the procedure was broken and whether it is really possible to consider the removal of ms. denisova from the position of ombudsman illegal, so i specifically opened the law of ukraine on the legal status of wars on the legal regime of martial law and article 10 very clearly states the inadmissibility of terminating the powers of state authorities of

other state bodies in the conditions of martial law in during the period of martial law, the powers of the president of ukraine, the verkhovna rada of the cabinet of ministers of the national bank and the attention of the human rights commissioner of the verkhovna rada of ukraine cannot be terminated. that is, this is a direct violation of article 10 on the legal status of martial law in ukraine. it is not possible. i also think that the haste with which the authorities are removing the commissioner today is primarily in order to monopolize this area , in fact, muscovy did not like it very much ms. denisu, i personally do not like her. i believe that there are a lot of comments about her work, but if we consider the global process and the observance of the rule of law and comments on a specific person in specific cases, of course we must

stand for the rule of law, even if we have comments on this person, that's why this is an order. i am convinced that it came from moscow and it was implemented by those who today conduct the policy of the kremlin. in moscow, i believe it is more than that. in ukraine, it is more than that. i believe that since it was made with violations. opportunities to appeal to non-compliance in ukraine, in accordance with the question to mr. losyansky, there were accusations that they were saying this, khrestina yatskiv emphasized that she was an owl, she was detailing the crimes too much, but on the other hand, we understand how much indignation this has raised in the west, they are waiting, i don't understand, she detailed crimes , what does this mean? it applies, for example, to crimes against minors and so on. well, it sounded like a

slur and i understand the address, well, yes, and how and in another way if she is an ombudsman, if she reaches information that there are such crimes against the citizens of ukraine in the temporarily occupied territories, how should it react, there are two cases: just keep silent, just keep silent, or talk about it and use this information weapon against the occupier, and in such a way that against the occupiers, they introduced another one a package of sanctions, for example, secondly, i know how the office of the authorized person works, all the information that the authorized person told, she told with the permission of these people, yes, against whom it was done there, and for example i.e. and if that didn't happen, if that didn't happen , well, well, people just didn't allow it, so i don't understand, that is, you know, i don't know who

remembers me, my dear colleagues also say, well , there are many complaints, and i don't know thanks to dniester, 35 50 prisoners from the territory of the lpr who were sentenced until 2014 returned to the temporarily controlled territory of ukraine, although they were still supposed to sit under the occupiers. they did not let them go . until the end of 2019 and on each she was present, fortunately, i went there, i can see it inside the system, and how were you used for monitoring visits, and the system was completely fixed, and there was no such thing before, among the objections was that she sometimes voiced unverified information, that is, there is some kind of verification algorithm. well, who well, there is confirmation of this with these words, all the information received by the commissioner's office is fully

verified because i know how it works, there are special, well, special people who are engaged in filtering information, all the information that is not confirmed it is not confirmed, it was completely destroyed, that is , operational information was sent, it was not verified and no one told it. well, i was involved in this. i know for a separate region, when you send it, they give it to you in the reverse direction, they say to check the information, it is not correct, it is not confirmed, it is not confirmed, a report note to the authorized person, that such information has not been checked. well, it has not been checked. it does not correspond to the truth. well, look, they are being accused of this accusation, and is there evidence of this accusation or not? why is it just all populism, well, there must be evidence. well, let’s give a specific case. where, when and how? okay , lysensky based on a very brief basis, why was there such a rush? well, denisova worked during the

last, i don’t know, almost 100 days of the war, and as far as we understand, they worked no worse than under arrest, of course in my area and here there is such a rush, well , first of all, i say once again that i agree with my colleague not to monopolize the branch of the authorized representative of the verkhovna rada of ukraine because it was not under the control of the president's office, which is exactly how the boatswain of ukraine should well, she would be a very media person in the world. and we can’t do that in ukraine, so the president’s office and powerful politicians should only be in such media outlets, and well, and thirdly, i know that well , i have such information that, well that is, they even suggested in the president's office that lyudmila denisova should run for the next election

. shamefully she was released, thank you pavlo pavlo lysyansky , ex-representative of the human rights commissioner in donbas, oleg synyutka, a guest of our studio, olezhe, i can’t ask a question, well, on the sidelines of the verkhovna rada, things often happen there that we don’t hear about. we don’t even monitor the public part now. we can and i used to love so much to be honest , but if we talk about who will come to replace denys, what are the proposals, seriously bezula tyshchenko, well, this is not a joke, i really wanted it to be a joke because if it is already so cynical and it is so irresponsible, it is a big blow to the reputation of our state that denisova was fired illegally, it seems to me that i don't even need to be a sufficiently specialized lawyer, but i still ask the question and why the first thing that comes to mind

is not even her media activity - it is her such lack of control of the president's office. i think that this is the story of ukrainian prisoners. we have seen that for several weeks now, ukrainian fighters of the azov national guard, border guards who defended mariupol have been in russian captivity. impression that not hundreds, but several thousands of ukrainian soldiers have ceased to be of interest to anyone, and for sure this question will arise because a few days ago their relatives, their relatives, have already united to worry about their fate, and i definitely understand that ms. denisova would not be silent on this matter, but i think that the position of the topic is not synchronized with the office of the president, but i also

cannot help but mention the publication by the kind denis of the information about the tortures, without exaggeration, that the captured azov people went through before we we cannot say what exactly is happening now with the current prisoners . the same thing is happening. we do not have the facts on hand, but that there have already been precedents, this is also very important, and i think that this could play a role in the decision to dismiss her. you know, i have no confidence in the muscovites and i i know that those people who were in captivity were often subjected to terrible torture, as the head of the regional administration, i had a meeting with those boys who were in captivity who were taken out of captivity for 14-19 years. these are very courageous people and they are real ukrainian soldiers, but what they did not go through, i

definitely would not wish it on anyone and i do not think that silence in this matter is the best option, we must do everything possible so that ukrainian soldiers return home, we as a society should understand what is being done in this direction, that is, receive some specific informative signals, something is being done, are negotiations underway or not, if not , then why and accordingly and accordingly well, let's hope. yes, i understand that these people received the command to leave the defense and anyway we must understand exactly under what conditions the command surrendered, it is not just that command, raise your hands and get out of captivity. i don’t know who, but when i saw these shots when the orcs were searching the ukrainian military. well, for me, it’s really such bitterness and pain in my heart that doesn’t go away until now, and if this is the price

of saving lives, then i think that only later will we be able to realize whether it was worth it. actually, i would like to note that iryna vereshchuk is no longer dealing with the topic of polony there, and now mr. budanov, the manager, will deal with this topic of military intelligence of ukraine, a short comment about this well, well, there were questions to denisova. and what is wrong with zgoryshchuk, why are the prisoners taken away from her? again, i can’t explain it. i don’t think that the head of military intelligence has enough free time to conduct such an important part of his work. because, of course, today military intelligence has something to do . military intelligence is extremely busy today. we will be ready to accept any personnel

decision if it is in favor of ukrainians, let's see the machine. i would like to end our conversation by going back to the beginning, but still, the verkhovna rada, in particular, and the monomajority did not vote for remote voting. what happened in the session hall, well, not yesterday only remote voting was not voted on, a few more laws that i understand were not voted on senseless economic issues, that is, i understand that remote voting is being introduced because today the president's office sees that the verkhovna rada is leaving this control that existed for a long period of time and therefore it is necessary to replace it with the persuasion of the deputies for an argument in front of the deputies, to replace it with just ordinary

manipulations, and this is very dangerous, and believe me that we on the sidelines, in conversations, in arguments, do everything possible to prevent this from happening, well , the main thing is that parliamentarism is preserved in our state oleg synyutka, people's deputy of ukraine was a guest of our studio. thank you for this conversation. well, we remind you that today is international children's day, and the childhood of some ukrainian children ended before the start of the full-scale war. the russians killed 243 children in ukraine. 446 children are injured, and these are only official statistics that are very - very, very modest and hardly has anything in common with the real picture, why are putin's cats destroying ukrainian children so much later in the plot, humanity has long been no longer a virtue for them, and the geneva convention has lost its meaning because in 2019, the russian federation partially withdrew from the

international treaty on the protection of civilians during war, the corresponding law was signed by the permanent master of the kremlin, putin, and since then he considers fascist russia not treacherous . imagine , first of all, more than 600 young ukrainians were affected by the war due to the russian invaders, 93% of all children who sought medical help were children who received ear grenades or firearms injuries. that is, we can say that the russian federation is fighting against our children with our children in the office of the ombudsmen, all these terrible figures are not final, because information is constantly surrounded in the zone of active hostilities or temporarily occupied territories. in ukraine , hundreds of cases of rape of children by russian military maniacs are recorded, the victims are

both minor girls and babies, only more than four hundred have been officially recorded appeals and this is genocide, that is, the signs of genocide - this is social violence against our girls, those women who do not want or will not be able to give birth to children, moreover, the russians have been abducting our children since the beginning of the full-scale invasion, the invaders forcibly removed from ukraine more than two thousand children first of all, they are in a hurry to russify them. well, then, guys, if the liberated territories do not speak russian to a sufficient degree for mastering our general educational program in the summer period, colleagues with a profile the department will organize courses in this work , high school students will be included , the russian authorities claim that there are about 200,000 children from ukraine from dangerous zones, but there is still no talk of returning them to the motherland, as well as the comments on the product are identical, they are lost, they are losing russian

language, they want them there er, they carried out, that is, they simply destroy the ethnicity, er, the ethnic identity of our children. and this is genocide. every day, russian attacks kill at least one ukrainian child, how many of them the occupiers are taking them to russia, it is not known for certain, however, ukraine does not stop trying to return the children home, recently it was possible to free and return to their relatives two children who were forcibly deported from mariupol ulyana hryschuk espresso well, on the air of the tv channel espresso, there is an information and analytical marathon for june 15-11 khrystyna yatskiv anti nbur it's cool how to protect them, contact us now olena rozvadovska, head of the board of the children's voices charity fund ms. olena, we welcome you thank you for being with us thank you for

your work good day a-a what about the russians in three 243 children were killed in ukraine in the last month. these are only official statistics. we have 446 injured children and this number is increasing. how much can we rely on these numbers? perhaps you have some additional information. well, how do we understand this to be true? we can confirm , verify, that is, understand that this is a death that has occurred and we have recorded it with our relevant authorities or received information about injuries and a child for treatment, what is happening in temporarily controlled enemy territory - this is very true it is difficult to verify because we understand very well that the enemy works very skillfully through propaganda and through information attacks, they accuse us of being

baseless, or our side in the murders, in fact, my a-a, they only do military actions that lead to the death of children, but and the genocide, which we also understand, took place in many territories where the enemy was there for several months. yes, he was there for sure. we do not have the exact number of the exact number of children killed. oblast since 2014 and even for 2022, we did not fully know the number of children who suffered from the armed conflict that has been going on for 8 years. that is, we really do not have information on the occupied territories ms. elena, we just tried to analyze the situation during this story with khrystyna with denysa 's release, it is possible as an assumption that she was released

because she spoke too much and this could cause appropriate movements from russia, among a number of voiced claims against her, in particular, was that she published incompletely verified information , denied this case categorically, and pavlo lysyanskyi, the ex-representative of the human rights commissioner in donbas, would like to ask you about the statistics of the terrible scary statistics about sexual crimes against children, well, about sexual violence against women and children who were in those territories where the russian troops were leased, and regarding or regarding the data , again, their e. there it is impossible now to announce the final number of what they are. and this is a fact - this 100% the victims themselves talk about it , the eyewitnesses tell it, it is recorded, however, about

the number, about her and about the number, well, it is impossible to talk about him now, because i am convinced that there is a situation where women cannot yet or children can not testify about it, they do not feel it themselves in safety in order to declare this about it, and maybe they don't feel their own, in principle, the power to talk about it because sexual violence is what is it, first of all, about what people do, what a person really passes through very difficult moral and psychological tests and society can react differently to a woman who claims that she has become a victim of sexual violence. women can feel shame, they can feel, i don't even want to think about what women who experienced

violent acts by russian interventionists feel, but the ombudsman is a woman have the right to provide society with this information because society needs to know the world community needs to know and it shouldn't be like me maybe i'm wrong closed protocols should be talked about out loud because there is not just a war going on, but open vandalism and sadism in the temporarily occupied territories that happened in the kyiv region. i don't think it is necessary to tell anyone one more time, i know for sure that the claim against ms. denisova by human rights activists and journalists was at the moment that we definitely need to talk about these facts to confirm them, to verify and report to the society so that we understand who we are fighting with, but, however, this excessive savoring of the details of these crimes, excessive going into details, however, well, it is obvious

in order to record the crime of sexual violence against a woman, it is enough for us to know that this fact happened, we do not need to know about how , how many times, in which places, yes, this is already this, this is this, this is information that does not affect the victim's situation in any way and this is the information that definitely does not affect whether this person will be convicted of a criminal offense, yes, this criminal is or not, that is, this is an excessive indulgence in detail, but there is, uh, agree with me, that is, violence happened, its publication is not will already harm the victim because there is no identification of this victim, as certain representatives of the human rights community tried to present, but what will change, but how will the excessive detailing of information about exactly how sexual violence was carried out, how will it help the case of sexual

violence, how will it worsen the position of the person who suffered it whether or not they will minimize the fact of sexual violence, it is not admissible in the conditions of war - these are things that are also prescribed in the geneva conventions optional protocols to this conventions on the prohibition of this, but so that we do not cross this ethical and moral boundary that we understand that we are talking about a specific person and absorb the details of what was done with this person , this is not. i personally also do not consider it necessary for this to discuss in society, we must first of all adhere to the understanding that we are talking about a specific person, the truth is, and children , in the end, just shut them down, please

. both. i believe that society has the right to know what trident was there and why they cut off his hand, and accordingly, my position as a representative of the media community is that society has the right to know, even if it affects the understanding of this war outside our country, because many others and is still wearing rose-colored glasses. that is why it is also the case, but we also have to understand our answer . for example, if we talk about children, if we say that a child has become a witness to a crime, first of all we think about how much we can to traumatize the child himself with this story about this story, or will he be traumatized or retraumatized after he tells about this situation, first of all, we always think about the person who directly or the child suffered from this crime, then we think about whether society is ready to understand it is it not ready, however, i think that

no one in ukraine is already under the illusion that we are talking with representatives, yes, definitely not of some non-human civilization, they are somehow representatives of mrs. olena, look at the ukrainian children if they come are on the border with the borders of our state now well, it is unlikely that they are completely safe, we know that the attacked enemy can be any settlement, but a large number of ukrainian children remain on the frontline and recently occupied territories, and i am again focusing on the issue of children's rights on life and safety and on the question of what is the final decision to make regarding the child, and i don't know, well, any decisions about this belong to her parents.

adult people, refusing to evacuate, take their children hostage, and now i will explain the situation schematically to you, volunteers witnessed rocket fire, no, it was artillery fire in lysychansk, a 12-year-old child is running and screaming, save, help , take me from here, if the volunteers leave her without help they can also receive criminal responsibility for leaving a child with the wrong person during such a cataclysmic disaster, in fact, if they take this child away without being able to find its parents here and now i am under shelling such a possibility, there is no sign of kidnapping . well, there will be a statement, they took the child to an unknown direction, what to do, to call people to evacuate , they called on naleghanshchyna, now evacuation is no longer

possible . about ourselves what to do about it, well actually yes, we have not announced a forced evacuation and for this we definitely do not have, and for this we understand that we continue to rely on responsibility of parents about how to live with their children, where to conduct raids, whether in safety or in the basement , e-e, that's why the truth is that the responsibility rests on those who bear legal responsibility, who are the representatives of the child or her parents, e-e, persuasion, talking is what you know how i also said that this is all that we went through in the 14th year, when, of course, the hostilities were not of such a scale, but it was still an armed armed confrontation, and the hostilities, er, there is a part of the population that believes that for which much harder to make a decision related to moving is more important than the truth to think seriously about the life and well-being

of children, so the child's right to life is absolutely destroyed by the war there, putting it at risk every minute. a ward who writes to us from a city already occupied by russian troops that he wants to leave but has not been able to for a long time because it is impossible without his parents if right during the shelling you saw a child running and begging for her it is necessary to save her, take her and save her. during the shelling, no one will tell you that you broke the law and kidnapped a child, and such children came, and we have information and there were recorded cases in the dnipro . she left, they decided not to leave there , in other places, there were such children, but they were able to influence their parents in the occupied territories already or in the territories in hostilities. we also can

not, we see that the representatives of the regional authorities all they do is call to consciousness until there yes to some kind of responsibility eh if a forced evacuation was announced where the children with their parents were put on the bus yes it was a different situation now already eh it is as it is and we are not all-powerful, and of course we want all children to live and grow up in health and peace, but unfortunately that will not be the case. finally, i just want to note that until today, the children's voices charitable foundation started a flash mob and sent t-shirts to opinion leaders children's statements the war is the way i understand it, i wanted the voices of children to be heard, to hear our children, for sure now, this is the most important thing that should be yes yes