will continue to destroy objects of critical infrastructure e-e transport logistics so that we are unable to e-e receive humanitarian military aid through the channels that are available, let's give these forecasts, we also count, that's why unblocking the black sea in a military way is critically important for us, plus we don't know how can turkish president erdoğan behave at some stage because now we have seen that he has blocked a part of military ships in the black sea, but in the future it is very important for us to completely free the black sea from such an advantage of the russian fleet and those problems that are both security and humanitarian, and not only to think within the framework of the un, how to provide grain, which

is also important to the countries of africa, the middle east, asia. that after all, the european union is a powerful structure based on certain fundamental procedures, the european union is not about an award for ukraine for the heroic struggle against russian intervention, but also about compliance with specific procedures about this. i hope we will talk next time how tirelessly our government tries to appoint worthy people to such key positions. this is very important . we have a connection with the soviet union. it seems to be 1987, that is, he sat in the camps until the

last, in principle, when the so -called perestroika was already, etc., that is, the person was fundamentally very successively and now we see the face of synevir kadyr eh finally this fish what a main game in the end everything turned into a victory and how are you m-m do you feel optimistic now as a person who has experienced a lot and everything etc. eh are you optimistic how do you feel about supporting ukraine, what support do we really need, what support is important , what support do we need before the full restoration of territorial integrity, including crimea, so what are your thoughts on this matter, please, a topic that i think should be more

to cover widely because er-e there is a significant difference a-e those years when actually speaking a-a m-m well, i mean the conditions of the unions when er-e it was very difficult to transmit information will illuminate the problem er-e on a global scale, that is, for if it was successful, then the effect of this information was much greater, unfortunately, it should be noted that over the past 30 years, and in all fairness, this is what has been observed since the collapse of the ussr after the fall of and the importance of international institutions it decreased significantly and leveled off, and you

know, as a matter of fact, i was released by decree of the pause of the supreme soviet of the ussr. to this , actually, i, er, they will be freed, er, today, today, i think that many people even, well, i don’t feel, they don’t feel the importance of each of these institutes, er, the question of impact on er, current eh, on rukshine, eh, in, well, which eh, and those

lawlessness, which are not only in the semi-soviet space, well, first of all, in the soviet space, therefore eh require a separate study of why this happened and is it not related to the fact that in general a-a international law as you know in general eh law-establishing relationships yes m-m in the world and so on eh actually speaking the meaning of that in general he is already losing the institute he well, it is felt that his own grief a-and the influence of the influence of c unvelirovannaya e to just adoption of the resolution well, they adopted the resolution further that that is here i think

that this is very strongly connected with these therefore eh today eh actually - you will see that the first time russia was tense, but now it has relaxed a little, did it find an opportunity to influence the public opinion in the west and the policy that is generally being developed there in relation to its a-a toilet? i don't know what it's about, but it's real есть зажем помощь and here are the results, ah, well, actually speaking, not very eh, the results are not very

noticeable , and on the contrary the front line is a few, otherwise, but it is in the plane of the international on international platforms. this is the khan's behavior of the lavrovy and when the s numbers, did you have time to read hmmm , the article by president biden, which was published by the ork times, unfortunately, i don’t know what gender it is, if there is a lot of information, then i

’ll just ask briefly from myself there on the new on the article about support for ukraine, about military support, etc., but de facto, in this article, the inviolability of the russian federation is guaranteed. that is, in ukraine, we will fight in ukraine. there is uh support help but we don't really see the results and we saw them, yes, i understood what kind of article we are talking about, and by the way, i think it's not from us, although because i came across this information in different informational on the channels, uh, about the fact that today, actually, the west is already starting to worry about the fact that and how would you not violate the space of russia, you will change me, and what uh, and

what territory is being discussed because, uh, putin, actually, already today, and how would unequivocally consider krym this already, uh, not even questions today we are already talking about the kherson region. and what territory does the bream go to? what territory should they reach? let's say our shells are the problem. it seems that there is support, but i just think that they were very strongly included here. - after all, agents of influence ,

etc. probably already somehow to moderate the results of i i think that this is how the paint should be paid. i think that it is a-a-a-a agents of influence are not weakly working now in the west, in any case, we understand that neither the european union, great britain, nor the united states recognized the occupation and annexation of crimea russian federation, so i think that biden's clarification can be taken very, very concretely, but i am worried about the current situation with prisoners of war and people who remained or became hostages of the kremlin once before, we understand that the international human rights movement was not what more active but somehow he had more influence on the

situation and thanks to this human rights movement it was possible to extract people not always by exchange, but for example general gregorenko ended up in the west in the united states and not only him, but what is the situation now, what real effective mechanisms can be used to save people because the kremlin regularly demonstrates not just rudeness and brutality, but it does not appreciate its participation in various international organizations to withdraw from the european court of human rights. there are no problems and so on. and this worries me i think that it's not that they don't have problems, but on the contrary, they actually follow the principle if you don't want it. that's how we're even stronger than that, uh, even stronger, and we're going to ignore

this international law, and so further and they actually say uh, it forces uh, as if uh, he would agree with that, even the minimum that is supposedly possible , ah, what you are saying. children for our children eh orphans literally and on eh exactly they are given russian citizenship, and here you can no longer protect them. yes, you are sorry. among the defeated, there are many children that we have in concrete facts. when they separated, a mother gave birth to a child, and this child actually burns -

of course, they can protect themselves. indeed, he will send an orphanage to the orphanage. no, he presented him as an orphan, and we will give him documents of the russian model, and more. will grant russian citizenship both in and later not even one international institute will be able to protect it somehow, because the topic is sorry , this is a game that they are in russia. then and so on and so on and more here. as for

adults, it's the same. but the most important part of society is children, er, now they are subjected to this kind of violence, and actually they say the solution is the future solution , eh, that's why -е you know е-е here i think here i think exactly after all, in any case, you can’t give in to their tactics, here it is, and on the contrary, even more, sanctions are already flowing, in accordance with these norms of law . during the time of the soviet union, he worked on the air, an orthodox bereber is actually

a legendary person like none other of our figures who know the prices in the struggle even with the soviet union, that's why they are there on the contrary, they know that from there they compare some western politicians they know the cost of the situation, because the situation is bad, he lives, he is right, it’s a nerve that doesn’t work now , it’s impossible to imagine what’s going on there, amnesty international submitted some kind of list to putin, and he said, well, there, as gorbachev once said, and yes they don’t work, the reality is completely shaken, he doesn’t exist so much so so so brutally left all possible international human rights institutions, that is, they are like that, they don’t value anything at all, they did everything right for them, for themselves, because they see that there are none there there are no effective levers to hold them accountable to force them to do something they

probably already understood and in principle that's all it's becoming more clear in principle that only war will determine the new new legal mechanisms and now russia simply comes out from wherever it wants and does what it wants and nobody does anything to it can't say even the western world guarantees the inviolability of this territory well , well, then wait for the fact that putin feels that impunity is such that he will go to expand the war, he can do it and in principle of common sense there is not much there and what if it goes of inverters there, their motive is, and the whole basis of their activity, yes, they really break away from the coast. when they are given some kind of guarantees, it’s just when they feel that they can ground something and there will be nothing for it. a new wave of lawlessness is just starting. if he

knows there oh, we won't do anything. well, let's do it then. put pressure on the west, buy their officials, continue oil anyway, and demand the lifting of sanctions due to the threat of famine, in principle, not only for ukraine, but for the world. that is, their arsenal is such an ideological weapon of a political weapon, it does not change at all, including the holodomor, they openly say that they will force ukraine to capitulate, well, yes, well, at this stage, we will open the way to bread, er, for bread there for third countries, for europe, etc. that is, the terrorist strategy is changing, so maybe the strategy from the other side, we understand, that is, if ukraine organizes with the help of the western fleet the so -called icon wars that will allow the export of grain from odessa, this will mean that, well, this is our position, how is it not

it won't be surprising if money becomes strong. i think that nothing will happen, there will be no opening of the sea, because the west can not lift the sanctions and putin, and putin will not, why should he open the sea and if the sanctions are strengthened, well, that is, there is an absolute dead end, a dead end, well, now we join on the air of the bera program meriem jalilova, head of the main administration for the occupation and reintegration of crimea and other temporarily occupied territories of ukraine ministry of internal affairs of ukraine , you have such a solid title, we are glad to see you on the air bera ber programs are a joint project of the atr and espresso tv channels. eddermozhdabaev is working today. i

apologize . this is probably my inattention. did you tell us what your unit does and what area of ​​responsibility we are currently in during the war? year, there is a lot of work, there is time, you understand that in connection with the full-scale war that happened in our country from february 24, but at the same time, we all always remember that the war has been going on for 8 years and it started in 2014 from the moment of the occupation of the autonomous republic of crimea, there are currently a lot of questions, there are a lot of territories,

there are very few occupied territories, we have very little. of internal affairs - this the questions of the armed forces of ukraine, and our questions, do you still understand that the structure of the central authorities , such as the national guard, the migration service, the border services, the national police, which includes the crimean police, which was created even before in the 16th year ago, there are a lot of issues, we as the main directorate a coordinate all these issues in order to solve them faster,

as far as i know, at the end of january, when there was a meeting of the crimean platform, there was an it's a pity they didn't catch him before the war to realize that almost in every ministry there was some department or department that would deal with pre-occupation reintegration issues. because almost every ministry has its own questions on this matter, that's why we currently have such a question in our head office. well, that's understandable, well, in general of course. but right now there is a war and just all the questions , including uh, regarding the history of the temporarily occupied, they are, as it were, a precursor to the military plane and talk a lot about uh, uh, how will the crimea, donbas be liberated, uh, when i don’t ask this such the question is absolutely incorrect, but in your opinion

, in the opinion of your ministry, which units and which structures should be ready until the moment when the armed forces of ukraine begin to liberate crimea, that is, we ourselves should be ready for that, that's what you're talking about can you say something ah, during the year, we have already been working to ensure that all our units are ready for this . of the minister of internal affairs, we have a de-occupation and reintegration strategy, a strategy for the de-occupation of the autonomous republic of crimea, and there is a plan of measures, in which a lot of issues relate specifically to the affairs of the ministry of internal affairs, as i already said, it is the question of the migration

service is a question of the national guard, it is a question of the national gender , unfortunately, like the whole country, we did not expect that on february 24 there would be a full-scale war, so we were still preparing for the plan for the de-occupation of the autonomous republic of crimea, luhansk and donetsk regions temporarily occupied territories, and it is precisely from this territorial feature that our bodies were preparing that is why at the moment all this work is being reformatted because we have a lot of questions in the kherson region zaporizhia kharkiv region a-a mariupolsky it is a matter of time, but already now the plan measures, we prescribe and submit a new strategy to the cabinet of ministers. you mentioned the temporarily fresh occupied regions

of ukraine. well, it is quite a resonant story. the ministry of internal affairs - this concerns the melitopol district of the zaporizhzhia region when more than 35 employees of the priazovsky police station went over to the side of the enemy. positions, how does it look, taking into account the need to give an answer from the ministry, because the new situation is the newly occupied regions, and we understand that, well, one law on collaboration is all about don't break it and don't exhaust it and now the integration changes are preparing changes to the legislative framework specifically in

111 about collaborationism and there will be a very broad question, it has been discussed for two weeks already, i think that it is possible that by the end of next week there will already be some kind of document that can go to the committees of the verkhovna rada regarding the police or law enforcement agencies that have now gone over to the side of the occupier, this is not only the police, it's also the prosecutor's office, unfortunately, there is a security service. yes, we have such questions, we have faced all of this knows what i'm talking about in the 14th year in crimea there is in donetsk luhansk, why today we could not conduct such an analysis to remove all the people that still

remained the percentage of people who went to the other side, this is already history, it has already happened, but eh there is an official procedure for their er-er deprivation er-er and they will be excluded from the national police of ukraine. you have to do part there, but also the state must, and the state must clearly define criminal liability by law on collaboration. well, this is no longer your area of ​​work, i want to ask literally there are 2 minutes left with which to measure, you are actually facing specific crimean and crimean tatar issues, now, first of all, this is it a big part of the war , or is it a fully orthodox part? oh, you know, if

the issue is the crimean tatars, then it’s definitely a violation of rights, because only in the last week we see that there are a lot of violations in melitopol genichesk. in the 14th year, everything that was in the crimea and is now in the crimea. and now there were our lawyers who, for many years, supported the crimean tatars , in general, the ukrainians who live on the territory of ukraine, who were arrested on incompatible sentences, but it has become everything that it says that the policy of the russian federation, unfortunately, does not change in any way, all we can do is react and

take it out into the public space into the world space. works i really hope that uh, if it didn't sound like this , but everything started with crimea and everything will end with crimea, and i really hope that in the course of this war we will be able to de-occupy- deo buy the entire territory of ukraine i really believe it i believe it eh- yes, i don't know how we will be able to compensate the people for all the damage - it's not only material damage - it's moral damage that was caused because we won't be able to return people's lives a-a, but the fact that we will return the territory is one hundred percent thank you thank you we would like to chat with you