er, i believe that look, when there was peacetime, everything was very clearly worked out by the special services . only two people have the right to enter the public space. this is the head of the security service and, on his behalf, the head of the er, spokesperson of the security service in the region, in agreement with the leadership of the central er in the head of the department can come out of the central administration , and so can his spokesman, all the rest - it's outside the rules, and they all know it, that's why i'm saying once again the discussion in the public space of any things that concern special services - this is unacceptable, i heard you, but let me say that after all it is volodymyr zelenskyi said about it in public space in his address to the ukrainian, you can say where

he said that there is a question, he was thinking only about himself, that's why i fired him in general, it was issued, see there is a clear mechanism, he is an officer, he is on duty, but he was not dismissed from duty, he is at the disposal, he writes a reporter. if that report is ignored, he sues all other mechanisms to go public to tell whether he is good or bad, and all the rest is a priori to put yourself on the side. well , what the president said is definitely not good. well, we don't have another president like that. i don't rule out that he was also misled. but in order to this must be proven only through a clear mechanism, and the discussion of any problems in space cannot. well, it’s just that i consider

the officer’s merits to be inferior. do you think that the president could have been introduced or not? you heard his argument arguments . management well, maybe it's true yes, let's figure it out. but why do we have to figure it out in space, and not only in the space of the country, but in the space of the world? yes, you fit in because it has already come out in the public space, so we believe that the driver, then in his place, i would write a report and resign from the service and prove their innocence because of the court everything closed this topic . let me ask one last question. as i said, the head of the sbu department was fired for the second time, then the president said that he also had questions, the head of the kherson region now the head of the kharkiv region eh, but they also have a direct manager, this is ivan bakanov, there are questions about the heads of regional departments, and

there is no ivan bakanov. well, how can it be ? then to the heads of the regional offices, and not directly to the head of the security service, i am once again talking about the fact that the state security system in our country is eastern, that is, it does not work as it should be, he is the head of the state by his decree appoints the head of the regional offices, but first of all he must ask from those who submit the application, and the application is submitted by the head of the security service, therefore, if there are complaints, it is necessary to hold some meetings, it is necessary to understand and already on the basis of these meetings to make decisions we will also not miss that from one side something from the other side i heard you thank you for your comment viktor yagun major general of the sbu reserve deputy head of the sbu 14-15th year in kharkiv oblast

volunteers held one of the largest of evacuations of civilians at one time from the occupied territory, it was possible to get one and a half thousand people out of the occupied territory, people were taken from kupyansk, the great burluk and the vovchan district in the occupation . people say that the russian military jammed communications and said that no ukraine exists anymore. during the evacuation, put insults on the platform, they are eating, they are taking those whom we are evacuating, of course, it was very scary for everyone because you are going there on buses and you feel that there are more than two people taking you dozens of sights are looking at you, enemy troops are following you, you are there as a lookout, eh, everything is shot at, everything is absolutely visible, and you understand that absolutely no one will help you from that side of the

contact line, we are overloading people and transporting everything, ukraine will be at the zero point, there was a lot of it emotions, emotions of people, eh, there were a lot of tears, old people, children, a lot of children , newborn children, 2-3 months old, children, mothers who said goodbye to their children, who could not leave, they took a piece of themselves from them and we guaranteed them that we would deliver these children safely and soundly for three hours in

the afternoon, almost 900 people were evacuated. about that ukraine does not exist , they learned viburnum, they learned our father, bandera, little children, we are there in ukraine, the glory of ukraine remained on the other side, many people on the other

side, very many people are asking to leave and their children and old people are not allowed, and if you are in the mood, let's say there are 100 people , 100 cars are allowed there, and there is no mobile connection, there is no internet, well, not everywhere and not everyone, but they started, there were no shops at all, the goods factory is in luhansk, mainly the whole of luhansk is already in full swing there, the ruble at home is good, we have done such a renovation, they have done a major renovation, that is, the dream of my life was this renovation, they have decided that the house is not as important as the whole life, the children are necessary for the future. going to school is necessary there in i went to school, we had complete logistics with

the armed forces of ukraine, communication from that side, that is, we were completely there , and i basically led them to the evacuation points. heroes , guys who go there. heroes, only because ordinary guys in their cars were able to organize the departure of one and a half thousand people. shelled one of the districts of kharkiv, as well as four districts of the region at once. this was reported by the head of the kharkiv oda, oleg synogubov. as a result of these shellings, four civilians were killed

and seven people were injured. meanwhile, the kharkiv prosecutor's office reports that the fixing of damage to the homes of local residents with kharkiv residents is ongoing. there are houses that were destroyed, radio svoboda spoke, they were here as if from the very beginning, a shell fell near the house from the 15th floor, my friend was wounded, she did not survive, and then the shelling began command damage damage to the balcony unit there is no clutch there is no clutch in the room furniture destruction there is no visible torn damage there is no fear here because there is a chen around the house and still there are 16 floors we are on the first floor very very very very scary what happened

on the evening of the fifth day it was eh the air raid and the plus and the shelling completely burned down our porch, many apartments burned down completely, this is the third floor, this is ours, this is the first window, this is the second kitchen - this is the children's room, and the third - this is our bedroom two metal fragments with pointed edges of the first ethical form of the actual form yes the first metal fragment 7.5 cm long and approximately 2.5 cm wide on the 5th at 10 minutes on the 4th evening the planes flew in something dropped something happened i came out after the explosion 10 minutes later after all, i will

take a bath there partially, the shells were in the toilet and that’s it. well, there’s a chance of getting caught. well, no one was there. the employees of the prosecutor’s office together with the residents indicate the house that caused the damage to the property. an appropriate inspection is being conducted. during the specified inspection, objects are removed, namely

, fragments of weapons, damage to housing is recorded, all this is recorded, and later appropriate examinations will be assigned, according to the results of which the body of the pre-trial investigation will be able to identify the involvement of the russian federation troops in the specified hives, the un human rights monitoring mission declares that the release of the authorized supreme human rights council of ukraine lyudmila denisova lyudmila denisova contradicts international standards and undermines the independence of this important human rights institution in ukraine let me remind you that the day before the verkhovna rada dismissed denisova from the position of ombudsman, and she has already announced that she will appeal this decision in court. denisova believes that the president's office is behind her dismissal, but the bank denies this

. my greetings to you congratulations, let’s say from the very beginning, did the human rights defenders in the human rights community have complaints about the work of lyudmila denisova, they were definitely from the very beginning and she was appointed to this position because in the 18th year, we carried out direct action actions, made appeals, and in the end, after her appointment, we appealed to the constitutional court precisely because , in our opinion, her appointment was not legal, precisely because of the contagion of ms. denisova's appointment, the parliament changed the procedures for acceptance from an open vote, in-person voting became open the procedure so that actually all the political contracts that were could be implemented actually, they did not have a legal protective background and we did not support the candidacy for these positions after the court decision

about the fact that her appointment was legal, we actually left this struggle because the law put, well , the court actually put an end to this appointment, but many human rights organizations did not cooperate at all, or the ottomans precisely because they thought that ms. on a wide range of issues, however, apart from those things where only the boatswain's office could intervene in this or that situation, well from the point of view of human rights defenders, she was appointed not very legally or she was dismissed legally just as well. that's why we it is very difficult, we do not support her candidacy for this position and her personality in general , but it is very important to talk about the fact that the human rights representative of the verkhovna rada of ukraine - this is a very important institution, which despite the fact that it is part of the state in that among others

, it is possible to protect a person within this state from the arbitrariness of the state, therefore this institution must have certain guarantees of independence, the question of dismissal and the grounds for dismissal and the procedure for the dismissal of the ombudsman are precisely part of the guarantee of independence of that institution and in fact yesterday the parliament violated these guarantees because after not hearing her report it does not conduct research and investigation into the reason for her dismissal. it is not necessary that she violated something, broke her oath, for example, there is a boatman, the parliament dismissed her. and in fact, now i have no guarantee that anything new to be as political as ms. devistova was appointed to this position in her time. and do you share the opinion of ms. denisova herself that the office of the president is behind her dismissal, or if the globe, generally speaking, that her i was fired for political reasons. i think that they were fired because of the fact that her activity was finally not very positive, which was now

focused on pr, which she was conducting. regarding the fact that she spoke quite incorrectly about sexual violence, but there is a question as to how verified were the data that she voiced , so i think that complaints against her were accumulating for a certain time, and now they resulted in the fact that the parliament announced a vote of no confidence in her and there wasn't even one. you know there were no serious disputes in the parliament. you saw that 234 votes is actually a lot, that is to say that there was a serious discussion in the council regarding her dismissal . not only human rights organizations, but also parliamentarians, but the issue of procedure is very important because if the procedure is not followed, we can talk about some right of the state. well, here i will simply remind in

the context that ukraine still wants to become the candidate is the members of the european union, i.e. to get this status, probably. they will consider this too. i will only add to what you said that, for example, prosecutor general iryna venediktova stated just now that lyudmila denisova did not hand over to the prosecutor general's office the materials about the rapes that she wrote about in social networks she described in detail what human rights defenders criticized her for, and i understand that this is also one of the complaints about her. you also just mentioned it so definitely because you understand the ombudsman. she is not just a person, but she is so ordinary the representative of the state, the highest representative of the state in the field of human rights protection, and she says some facts and calls it as facts, at the same time, another authority that er did not organize another er structure and the office of the prosecutor general, which must investigate these activities, no information from the office the boatman did not receive, it cannot be that one

state body does not transfer anything to another body, especially when it comes to such terrible crimes, which mrs. denisova spoke about in such detail the details traumatize a very large number of people and retraumatize the victim, this is if we believe that all these details are really true. well, now to the most interesting thing, who is it? do you know, maybe you already know , do you have any insiders who can take the place of denisova, because you know, even such names were heard from human rights defenders like mykola tyshchenko. i still think it was a joke, but i don't know. it 's difficult for us to say what's a joke and what's not, because you see that it's crowded for appointment to a position , so that a wide range of people who might want to number of deputies to become i age center 40 years old now, according to the law, a person who wants to take the position of human

rights commissioner, since the parliament is currently a young team , there is a question about whether the age center should be changed, then i apologize mykola tyshchenko fits exactly under this age center that's it, yes, actually, and i'm coming to the point that there aren't many options, but i have a feeling that the task was to release the tennis player because there was already some end . parliament, but no one thought seriously about the new candidacy, that's why now it's starting to start a lot of insiders about who it might be, but actually talk about the fact that there is some very marketable candidate who will not be politically engaged, who will have a serious background with the human rights community seems to me to be a victory, at least there are no such ones that we would know about, and here again it is very important that now the deputies do not start shredding the law on the verkhovna rada commissioner for human rights, because according to the norms

it is possible to change the procedure for occupying a position just before someone takes this position, because there is an immediate feeling that this position is being prepared for someone. therefore, it is not necessary to touch the law on the ombudsman, although it needs certain changes, but now we find ourselves in a situation where we do not have an ombudsman yesterday, and in the situation in our country, when there is a large-scale armed aggression of the russian federation against ukraine, it is very important for us to say that the state institution - the institution of human rights should also be here for me it seems that the parliamentarians will be in a hurry to ivanka and i hope that they will not do worse than it was before the removal from office, i will erase the memory, but now you said about the possibility or risks of changing the law regarding this age limit. well, for example, a people's deputy from the servant of the people in marina bardina, she wrote such a not very specific post about all this, but she said that, in

turn, i consider the age center of 40 years to be an unfounded norm, perhaps these are already hints that this norm will be changed. has been discussed for a long time, in fact, this is not news, the question that the law on the authority of the human rights hospital needs certain changes was discussed immediately after the appointment of ms. denisova, again because he allowed the possibility that this law and its application were appointed to the positions of a person who would not have a grant in the human rights environment and was the result of certain and the appointment was the result of certain political e-e agreements actually, this law needs to be changed, but it cannot be changed immediately before the appointment to positions, it just violates the principles, because then it means that it is not outdated legislation, it is not about certain guarantees, it is about the fact that the parliament and now we see that the parliament can change anything tomorrow, the age center will change it, it will allow a very wide range of people to be able to present for this

position, but not now, there is no question of someone announcing an open competition for this position, will you be able to speak to human rights organizations or delegate someone there to present alyona let me clarify. if you have now resigned before human rights defenders, human rights defenders would offer some candidacies, there are options. i think that there is a question regarding the individuals as to who would want to play this game, take this position, after such an arbitrary removal from the post of ms. denisova, do you understand that ladies, look, they will go to court, they will be tried and this is so scandalous quite a procedure, so i don’t know if the community is ready to delegate someone to this position, but there are definitely worthy candidates among human rights defenders. and it’s possible literally 30 seconds , we don’t open the law, we don’t read what it should be a person, what should be her skills, values, and so on, well, the key here should be the experience of human rights activities, this means that it is not an activity,

as mrs. davis said in the position of, for example , the minister of social policy, it is obvious that it should be an activity in the field of human rights. yes we believe that the human rights community should directly characterize this person, that is why there are formal signs of mastering the state language of education, the age center, but the key should be the experience of human rights activities and the understanding that such human rights because it is up to us for a long time now to teach a person what this is about, what this field is about, when she already takes office, thank you very much for your comment alyona lunyova, director of advocacy of the center for human rights, radio svoboda's shift met with the wife of a soldier of the azov regiment, who was stationed at azovstal in for security reasons, we do not disclose the man's name and surname, but here is the story of his wife, a volunteer from zaporizhzhia, we suggest you listen to it. next, he is the source of my harmony, that's why the source of my harmony was not long ago in hell itself a

now the source of my harmony is not at all in the place where he planned butyram brought soldiers and azov citizens to the hospital and that's how we met, he was wounded in the shykin operation a long time ago, together with the volunteers, they decided to take the soldiers to khortytsia, because it is a good distraction, a nice walk, and i also invited him as well, at that moment it seemed to me that everything was fine, but once we started dating in 2020, i already knew that in fact he had lost a lot of blood, this walk was very difficult for him, but he left because i invited him he said that he had already fallen in love with me at that time, but he didn't confess his love because, first of all, i was married, and secondly, he thought that he would die. and i would suffer. he was on the maidan.

at first he was a volunteer on the maidan, and then he went to azov, he was not accepted because of his age. well, he is 22 years old there in mariupol, and he said we will stand until the end. every day he wrote me a short message. for this, he climbed onto the roof of some house. and then there was no such opportunity anymore and he wrote less often and then there was a fire and everything burned down and the phone also burned down a while ago. after that, i found out from my comrades, uh, where he is, what happened to him, he was injured, well, not very well. well, how can it be for an ordinary person, it would be great, but they are such that he healed a little and is back in the ranks with the boys. he always wrote positive, everything is okay there, everything is fine. and the fact

that we live here relatively in peace is the merit of the azov people, that is, they gave the opportunity to get weapons for the army, and therefore to stand until the end, probably this one did not mean it, he wrote eh a couple of days ago, that is, he went to the communication so he contacted me first they called from the red cross, they asked my name, last name, er, they asked if i was his wife, i said yes, and they told me that he asked me to call and say that everything is fine, that's why he likes you in principle . no, he would have told me all the details, that is, we had trust. he knows that i perceive all these details normally. well, for the living, i

fell in love. floors he said that well they get to the first entrance, we go to the second, the second time we get to the third, and then for the first time, because he was already burned out, then he talked about the pilots who took the wounded away. he said that they are so brave. we are hiding, that is, even in those conditions, he was still somehow proud of our dream to live in ukraine, and i think that what we expect from the universe, yes , you are my world, it is very beautiful, i hear our desire, it is not always possible to come up with how can you come up with a way to return the voices of the steel er i have a loved one alive, well, it’s hard, and how it’s

happening now. well, i believe that everything has to end positively, well, it must end positively, that i will hug my beloved at home and all the other azov people will also return and all the other defenders of ukraine will return home. eight school buses arrived at rynok square in in lviv, the inside of the transport was empty, on the backs of the seats they attached cards with the names of children who died at the hands of the russian military, soft toys and shoulder pads were placed on the seats, an action called a tour of lviv that will never take place was symbolic to remind once again that war takes the lives of children, this action is dedicated to the international children's day, according to official data from the office of the general prosecutor , 243

ukrainian children have died since the beginning of the full-scale invasion. the news we received literally just now was that the united states of america officially announced a new package of security assistance for ukraine in the amount of 700 million dollars, anthony blinken stated this at a joint press conference with nato secretary general jans stoltenberg. i hope that we will consider this topic in more detail in tomorrow's svoboda life program. in the meantime, i encourage you to subscribe to radio svoboda's social media pages. we are on instagram, telegram, twitter and facebook, subscribe wherever you like. well, traditionally, i remind you that radio liberty journalists work literally in all regions of ukraine , and you can see their materials on the youtube channels of radio freedom and radio liberty ukraine to tomorrow, in this difficult time, it is very important to be

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