what he will tell them is their inner kitchen, he said. and that's how the players will meet the conditions in which they will play tonight at gandent . for qualifying for the world cup and in 15 minutes the match will start, there will be the anthem of ukraine and that's what we have to finish our issue until tomorrow glory to ukraine is a program verdict my name is serhiy rudenko good day and good health to all today is the 97th day of heroic ukrainian

resistance against the russian occupation. in one day, the occupiers destroyed at least 26 houses in the luhansk region. the proletariat factory and the nitrogen union were attacked by russians. they also launched a rocket attack on the slavic region. more than half of severodonetsk is now occupied by the russians. fighting has intensified in the city, according to the british intelligence, as noted by the institute of war research, ukraine is not throwing all its forces into the defense of severodonetsk for the sake of a counteroffensive in the kherson region, meanwhile, the enemy continues to lose manpower and equipment as of the morning of the first in june, russian losses in ukraine have already amounted to 30,000,700 personnel, tanks, 1,361 units of armored combat vehicles, 3,343 artillery systems, 659 rocket salvo systems, 207 air

defense systems, 94 aircraft, 208 helicopters, 175 vehicles, 2,290 ships, boats, 13 cruise missiles, 120 drones, 519 special equipment 49 units, as president zelensky says, in the east every day unfortunately, 60 to 100 ukrainian soldiers are killed and about 500 more are injured about the sixth package of european union sanctions against russia putin's lawyers in europe and the position of ukraine in the world, today we will talk with the politician, diplomat, minister of foreign affairs of ukraine in 2007-2009, mr. volodymyr ogrizm, mr. volodymyr glory to ukraine glory to the heroes i congratulate you mr. serhiy good health to all our viewers to see you thank you for agreeing take part in our program, let's start with the sixth package of eu sanctions against russia. so, the leaders of the

european union countries of the european union agreed on the sixth package of sanctions against russia, which provides for partial the embargo on the import of russian oil and the disconnection of the sberbank of russia from the world system, we are talking about the fact that by the end of the current year, the countries of the european union will reduce the import of russian oil to 90%, now up to 75%, there is still the possibility of exporting russian oil to europe via an oil pipeline and other ways of oil delivery, in particular tankers, the european union has banned it, volodymyr. explain to us what this means for russia and what it means for the union, because it is clear that in this case we, as citizens of ukraine, are satisfied with the fact that the european union strengthens the sanctions against the russian federation, what does this

mean for the countries of the european union? yes, mr. serhiu, this is another and very i think the right step taken by the european union. is not as effective as we would like it to be. well, unfortunately, we have to talk about what we have and what we have is the result, as we have seen, of very tough political debates and the result of a compromise between those countries that want to really punish the russian federation and by those who want to not see the obvious things, well, i mean, first of all, hungary, so definitely, right away, it is

not easy to find other sources of oil supply, but it is possible, and many european countries demonstrate this, but there is, i repeat, such a country as hungary, which is easy - simply does not want to look for er alternative sources of oil supply and actually blackmails er blackmailed the european union by imposing a veto well thank god we managed to find a compromise but you know i will, so to speak, in parallel note the situation with those with the boycotts that hungary was talking about and what they were trying to use in case of conflicts that we will prepare for these meetings, we will block these decisions, she actually does not understand that in the end she will lose

strategically because already now in the european union at the official level. if earlier it was only the opinions of experts and political scientists, now already at the official level they are talking about the fact that it is necessary to finally abandon unanimity in decision-making. that is, what we have today is power and what are the opinions of the countries in the overall balance, which are very important, and meanwhile they make decisions that very often actually make the european union effective, so now i think we are on the verge of the fact that soon the european union will move from talk to action and the decision will be made by a qualified electrician, and then

she will keep all of hungary's knowledge in a frame on the wall and we will look at them and remember that she herself provoked this process because she was infallible , so the situation regarding europe is clear are moving forward although not as fast as we would like but at the same time it is uh everything is going in favor of ukraine relative to the russian federation you know i didn't sit and bruce table place for his patron uh for several years so he just sprayed drooling and talking about the meanness of the west, which, you see , doesn't hit the oligarchs because they say they'll have enough for the next generations, the object is the poor russians who, in fact, it's not have nothing to do, that is, what is happening is not the will of those russians, it is supported by those russians putin and his aggression are some others, so what they say is that

these sanctions will hurt the russians and it is very bad and so on, so the result is like this. sergey, the sanctions are working slowly, but their effect will be felt somewhere around the end of summer, the beginning of autumn. then what is called, well, if not a riot, then a very serious discontent in the russian hinterland will begin, because, well , they want to eat, but there will be not enough food. so, when we speak, mr. volodymyr, there is always an offer from hungary, greece or germany regarding any uh, the sanction or regarding aid to the ukrainian state , uh, the same phrase is always going around in my head, these are putin's lawyers in europe, these are people who are trying in some way to amortize the sanctions and in what way uh, um, to save or give

putin the opportunity to save face, representatives of italy talked about this, but in your opinion, what else should happen in order for europe to finally understand who putin is, what is russia doing on the territory of the ukrainian state, or does it smell like pears ? is this the russian lobby, a strong russian lobby, what is it bought this lobby that will always defend the interests of the kremlin in europe and this lobby that will always be a partner in well, for example, in the oil business or in the gas business, as in hungary, you are right, mr. sergius, for decades, putin gradually but relentlessly brought him under his energy resources, we managed to cover almost all of europe. well, let's not bend our hearts, as they say. and let's remember, although germany

seemed to be the most economic power of europe and that it sat on the gas needle of russia, so now it is not it can really come off, and if we say that we somehow managed to reach a compromise on oil, but this compromise is actually very, very powerful, because by the end of the year, after all, the vast majority of the countries of the european union will forget what russian oil is and that a colossal blow to russian interests and to the russian economy, the situation with gas is really much more complicated. well, because the country can't switch from one source to another in a few months, but the question is, what was it for? the same for germany to raise the level of its dependence on russian gas to forty or even a little more percent, this directly contradicts the european directive, but a positive thing happened.

well, i am not talking about such things as stimulating the financial dependence of individual politicians, in other words, corruption well, we have more than one example of corruption at the highest level, former chancellors , prime ministers, ministers are signing up for work at gazprom, there is laughter and so on and so on doesn't this mean that they have the same effect on the political system of their countries. well, let's not forget the interests of business. do you understand the russian market? what is it? it's simply indispensable for any western seller of his goods. this product is eaten there without under any conditions without any remarks and so on. that is, this is

the market where you can supply everything from washing powder to elements of space technology and everything will be accepted. this is a unique opportunity for the western economic lobby. to put pressure on the government and to prevent this from happening in any way that this is lost money, this is lost income, this is lost jobs, and every leader of his country thinks about making sure that people have a job, that this salary is not small, that this is positive for the social situation and so on and so forth, that is, there is a certain mutual dependence. but again, at some point, the question arises. so, what can you sell to the devil and the devil? are there certain principles that must stand guard over certain economic

interests oh, thank god, i think that's it it is really the beginning of a revolution of consciousness in western politicians that they finally understood that trade cannot replace the principles of morality, humanity, empathy, helping others, etc. tamagotchi or an ax or something even bigger is bigger. so this is a healthy moment and i think that this bloody war of the putin regime in ukraine has become a very serious catalyst for the return of western leaders to those values ​​that are so beautiful have been heard since the time of the french bourgeois revolution, but by the way, mr. volodymyr, this

story is also indicative of the supply of weapons to ukraine. of heavy weapons and germany is somehow trying to depreciate it, the united states of america, on the contrary, has opened a forest for ukraine and, as the american mass media have already reported, the administration of the president of the united states of america plans to provide ukraine missile systems of volley fire are capable of striking entire distances of more than 64 km, and well, of course, in addition to other assistance, in ukraine, the same president zelenskyi says that to unblock the seizure of territories by russian troops in the east and in the south of ukraine, as well as ports, the country needs weapons with with a range of 120 140 km, russia, during all these discussions about

what weapons should come to ukraine, what range of missiles should be, says that any supplies of weapons to ukraine, even if washington in their argued that they increase the risks of a direct collision between the russian federation and the united states, well, in particular, this was stated today by the deputy minister of foreign affairs of the russian federation, ryabkov. russia is constantly blackmailing russia. then we will take some appropriate step and say that through the mouth of dmitry medvedev, they say that we will hit decision-making centers, and these centers are not always in kyiv. should the world follow these threats? to the threats of the russian goblin, because it looks like

russia is now trying to dictate conditions to the entire world, including the united states of america, in particular, regarding the supply of weapons to ukraine, well, this is mr. serhiy, uh, sensation - it is a tradition of russian so-called foreign policy to blackmail the whole world and brandish eh what kind of weapon, well, now, since all other conventional weapons have shown that there is really nothing to brandish, because er, i think that these er-er are broken armored personnel carriers and bmp tanks that are being demonstrated today in kyiv at the mykhailivska square, they are a testimony to the fact that the russian armed forces are powerful only when they are fighting women, children and the elderly and when they cannot fight back. and

when they fight back, all the weapons turn into scrap metal, because is modern, it is far from the kind that can really be sold as superpowerful and so on, but there remains a truly nuclear component. and here is where putin has probably the most important. but at the same time, it is also the last argument, because the threats of destruction the humanity of nuclear weapons, they are really frightening , this is a terrible blackmail and today putin is trying to speak in this way, but you know what is the difference between today's situation, a situation that was happy a year ago, when the west was really afraid of russia today, after the

ukrainian heroic ukrainian armed forces are very actively engaged in the demilitarization of the russian federation, and the figures that you mentioned today at the beginning of our conversation about the losses of the occupiers are a clear confirmation of that. after that, the west finally realized that even ukraine, which does not have even a part of the capabilities that the allies have, and if it strikes and destroys this horde, then it should be feared. apparently, nuclear weapons should not be applied in the same way, because, well, you can to blackmail, but uh and uh, this half-crazy führer uh, russian still understands that this is uh, the end for him personally and his state uh, if uh, such a weapon, i mean, there will be no nuclear weapons applied, so

it seems to me that the answer to what they say in moscow is all these strings and other things today's article universes yes, he clearly and clearly wrote that we will give ukraine the weapons that will help it to expel the russian invaders from the ukrainian land. so we will not provide weapons that will reach the red square, but on the other hand , well, recently i had a colleague it seems to me very apt, he wrote, he says, well, you can drive up to the ukrainian-russian border, take a slingshot from a slingshot, get into russian territory, then if the rocket goes there 60 and according to the latest data, 80 km, then, i'm sorry, it can quite calmly cover an airfield, for example, a military

one or a group of troops who are going to carry out another terrorist operation on the territory of ukraine or, say, an oil depot or something similar , that can be used for an attack on ukrainian territory, so i think that you should be afraid all threats of a nuclear war are not worth it in russia they understand what is going on, but first of all in the usa that they will not leave us alone, that we will have weapons to expel russian troops from the territory of ukraine by the way in today's articles we mentioned to you biden says that the united states of america continues to strengthen the eastern flank of nato and the united states of america does not seek war with russia, despite what biden said

, putin's outrageous actions the united states will not help , there will be his resignation, they will not seek and will not enter the war with the russian federation or to strike on russian territory until the russians strike the united states of america or the allies, perhaps this is the story of the absentee discussions between washington and moscow and still has in this way, putin is trying to start some kind of dialogue with biden again, because we have been watching for the last three months how the president of turkey and yordagan are trying to act as a peacemaker, and then he seems to be having a dialogue with them, but not wants erdoğan to be the leader of this process, relatively speaking, and it is getting the impression that putin and his team are constantly pushing the washingtonians, including biden, in order to start negotiating something with them. is this feeling misleading or is it true?

and it looks like and you know, it seems to me that at this stage, uh, well, about any contacts at this level. well , in principle, there are no contacts even at the level of uh, ministers of foreign affairs , uh, after the start of the war, blinken, uh, not even i spoke with lavrov on the phone, not to mention that you can think about some kind of meeting or negotiations with putin at the level of the president of the united states of america. i think that this is more of an effort of russian propaganda. to raise the degree, so to speak, to show what's going on after all, we remain a great country and we need to talk about it in this article that you and i, mr. sergey, just mentioned and the phrase that you just

quoted about the fact that the united states is not going to remove his putin from office it seems to me that there is a fundamentally strategic mistake, so definitely one cannot set as a goal the elimination of some government of a democratically elected government that behaves adequately in its relations with the rest of the world. eh hm respects the norms of international law that follows these norms eh but eh can't eh to equate such governments with the governments of uh countries that uh commit crimes of military aggression well, let's not forget about uh what ended the second world war it ended uh because the goal was to destroy the nazi regime and what

today consists of racism from of nazism or from other people of the nalysnitsa practices of the past, but nothing. today, if we look at what they are doing to clean up the territory of ukraine, i think that in some cases, they can transfer him to sit down at all, not even sit down the table and even picking up the phone and calling him or receiving a call from him, that is, well, it does not fit into the elements of some kind of morality, which is still important for biden and for the western civilized world, so i think that someone is starting the idea of ​​talks behind ukraine's back to any concessions neither publicly nor unofficially and the slogan "nothing

about ukraine without ukraine" remains the meaning of my policy in this context yes that i think that all these conversations are about negotiations about uh some contacts are made by those countries that, uh, really want to quickly uh, well, so to speak, restore the status quo and its economic interests in russia, and by the way, turkey, with all due respect to what it has done and is doing in relation to ukraine, is also in this regard. it is very wants to be friends with russia and with ukraine well, for example, i am surprised why turkey has not yet publicly and officially condemned the aggression of the russian federation . it takes a position of neutrality, you know. we do not directly condemn the aggressor . but we do not accept the results, which means that

it's happening, sorry, it doesn't happen here, it's necessary. it's necessary to take a position . to the principles, if they are there , then they are there, if they are not there, then they are not there, vladimir, what happened if erdağan still took the side of ukraine, and how much would it affect the position of putin and what they are doing, well, in particular, in the black sea well, you know, it definitely had an impact well, look, if uh, putin uh, closes the gas screen for countries that do not want to comply with his demands there and pay for gas in rubles, then uh, once again close uh, turkey for russian tourists uh, for uh so that turkey cannot

export food and products of its agriculture to russia, this is a matter of literally a few seconds, it will be done quickly and it will definitely cause serious economic losses to turkey, erdogan definitely does not want this type of he needs something else to demonstrate one's high political involvement in world processes, and today the war in ukraine is precisely the war of totalitarianism against democracy, and the position of one or another political leader in this regard only raises it and gives him more weight and popularity, that is, here he wants to play, it seems to me

economically and politically er two er civilizations democratic and authoritarian and to find some kind of compromise, well actually for him this is a topic. it seems quite er hmm attractive to me and he would like to take advantage of this opportunity but again , not at the expense of ukraine during the last three months we are trying to understand what exactly vladimir putin finally wants, whether he wants the east and the south of ukraine, or whether he wants the gradual occupation of the annexation of the entire territory of ukraine, although we understand that a year ago, putin declared that and continues to declare that there is no ukraine

never existed and that it was once invented by volodymyr ilyich lenin there and well, in short, all these stories about pototsky who invented count pototsky who invented ukrainians general volodymyr shamanov - this is a deputy of the state duma of the russian federation during the war noted that ukraine as part of russia is not for them is needed, let's listen to p shamanov. we don't know what it will be