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they want to return home as soon as possible with a victory to hug their family and hear the native word, pray and run to protect ukraine together, my family is dear to us , they tell us that it is not time, we have decided and we are drawn home, she gave birth to a son in poland, now she is returning to the little one, soon it will be for a month we will learn our own
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thoughts, but we will eat a new nest and create a cache to thank our armed forces. glory to ukraine, we will live on, we will think about our country, because our home is always within ourselves and the limits of human capabilities despite the constant attempts of the enemy to prevent us. we continue to save, help, demine, live and love again. we have never felt such strong
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support around the world. not only the enemy, but also the consequences of every cynical attack on peaceful cities and towns. we will win because the truth and the native land are behind us. we will win because people of good will are behind us. let's intercept let's beat let's win stubble news together we are strong joint marathon of the leading ukrainian tv channels and radio stations the only news continues in the studio vasyl pakhneva and maria skyba and we continue the conversation about the international component of our support we will talk further about when and how ukraine will quickly become a member of the european union so the majority of members the european union has a positive attitude towards the rapid granting of eu candidate status to ukraine. this was announced by the president of ukraine, volodymyr zelenskyi. countries that are still a little skeptical about this, negotiations are underway, let's hear the president, there have already been several calls with
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such uh and communication with such states friendly states, but so far they are a little skeptical um who are a little skeptical about our future or our rapid membership in relation to the european union, and so, in principle, everyone is publicly positive. well, almost all of us will believe that, we act in many vectors to get a fair status regarding the candidate and in the european union is headed by one of such friendly vectors. our friends are grateful for this support. in addition, i would like to add that already in june, the european council should consider the application for membership from ukraine. volodymyr zelenskyi, during his address to the leaders of the countries of the european union, stated that there are no alternative unions in our are not suitable for the country. we aspire and want to
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directly obtain membership in the european union. we will talk about this and other things now with maryna bardina, people's deputy of ukraine, deputy chairman the committee on foreign policy and inter- parliamentary cooperation, we welcome you. good evening. if we talk about timelines, timelines, when could we expect any change in the issue of ukraine's membership at the same time when we hear a lot of different statements from european leaders about that this is not a matter of the near future, even perhaps not a year, not two, but decades, well, first of all, i would not rush ahead and talk now about the month of june and the results of our work in june on the eu summit, because now the number one task is to get, of course, the official status of a candidate for full membership in the european union, and in the story it was said that the president
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himself this week, in order to participate in the meeting of the european council, said that this is the only way and no other alliances are related to membership in such a european family, they are not considered because well, there is no need to create anything separate when there is already a tool when there is a mechanism when there is a community of which ukraine should become a part, i think that it will be, you know, a litmus test for all member states of the european union, because today, well, ukraine has definitely done enough to get this status in june, i mean both in the legislative field and primarily as a result of what is happening today in country, and since the moment of even a small-scale invasion of the russian federation, and since the beginning of the war as such, i think that
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everyone's task today is to advocate for everyone at their own level, including the president, this government and politicians, and our people who were forced to leave the territory, this is also the diaspora, and actually the citizens of those countries who may, for example, hesitate to grant this candidate status, that is, let's move to june, work to the maximum to get this status, and then talk about full membership, ms. marina, it is clear here that we are waiting for the main decisions, and i would like to. of course, all our partners, members of the european union, were not on our side, but also about what the president said about a possible other alliance. said that, well, he actually proposed not to give up the eu to ukraine, but it is possible to think about such a union as britain-ukraine, poland, estonia, lithuania, latvia, turkey, and it is possible to gather
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these representatives of these countries and discuss a new alliance like the european union, what do you think about it you can say i think that the european union should not look for any other solutions for ukraine today, the number one task for the european union is to consider our candidacy for membership , that is, to invent some other models for us necessary, and how we want to build our relations with britain and our close neighbors are friendly, of course. to us, as neighbors, this is already such a question of a completely different national interest, but here, for sure, the countries of the european union do not have to put themselves in front of you, you know, how about we found an alternative no, this is absolutely not an alternative, and the european union must decide there to actually demonstrate its political power in the world, because again,
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this is all the discussion of the discussion. they are not they do not give any positive result or do not help to counter russian propaganda, russian aggression, russian blackmail on the world gas market, for example , etc., and that is why the european union unites and actually demonstrates to putin that ukraine is part of the european family. or then what is the point of the activity of the organization in terms of defending those values ​​which the european union itself offers and which ukraine took by signing the actual agreement with the european union and implementing a number of legislation in order to bring our national legislation closer to the standards of the european union , so it seems to me that we as a country
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can consider any political relations there, but for the european union today there is only one way - to provide ukraine in june the official status of a candidate for full membership speaks of the fact that ukraine deserved this candidacy, but on the other hand, there is a certain list of requirements for our country that we should implement in all these eight years since we are conducting a close dialogue with the european union. in addition , analyzing all that analytics, the biggest concerns about our state concern judicial justice, the issue of judicial reform under martial law, we understand that a full-fledged judicial reform is impossible or impossible , that is, with changes to the constitution and the like it is possible to solve the question whether in the negotiations with european partners, for example, there is an assurance that
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as soon as we win, then a number of those key changes will take place or how eh should develop events in this sense, first of all, i want to say that russian propaganda continues to work in the world, russia is probably the leader in propaganda throughout the world, and russia, in particular, sends a lot of messages about ukraine, which in fact do not always correspond to reality, for example, judicial reform. we are all from you witnessed how the parliament voted on the judicial reform , a proper commission must be created, you know, for the regions of our international partners, which will select judges where they are not appointed to positions and which actually will evaluate those who are already active today on the subjects of ethics and compliance and judicial integrity, and that is why it is important for us that this decision is already there, it has been voted, it is the law, which of course applies to the situation
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today, it complicates any positive steps because all the forces are thrown into the defense of our territorial integrity, sovereignty and reconstruction of ukraine, but i am convinced that we can carry out this reform very quickly, you see what pace the president is setting today, how he wants to restore country and, accordingly, the judicial reform is a part of this recovery, so again, it seems to me, i am convinced of this, that the european union should take into account the steps that we have already taken, let's look at the agreement on this part of the legislation that we have already adopted, so it seems to me that these e- things done by ukraine
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are enough to get the status of a candidate for membership a-a full-scale military intervention of the russian federation. we have this status because, again, either europe demonstrates its power and does not allow putin to influence, or we see a different development of events, as was the case with gas for a long time when nord stream-2 was being built, ms. marino. thank you very much. well, of course, we hope that the main goal of ukraine will be achieved, we receive a decision that is very important for us and the state of war in the country will not prevent this and of course our partners will not change their minds, which is important , as we have seen in some stories. bardina was with us, people's deputy of ukraine, deputy head of the committee on inter- parliamentary cooperation, thank you. thank you very much, and you made it an informative night. thank you, thank you.
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most importantly, friends, let's move on to the exclusive material that our olena tsymtyla prepared after talking with matthew olvort , the coordinator of emergency operations of the world food program, fragment. this interview can be seen right now, it can happen to people , er, have seen what can happen after er, as a result of the war, and we but such but such such so significant impact that can happen during the war in ukraine and this can not only lead ukraine to famine, but can also lead to coffee risks, which
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can also affect 47 million people, and the number of people who can be can have a problem when we do something we once saw something similar in the eighth - when there was not a very large increase in inflation and oil and all that, but what is the difference? and what is the difference and inflation? we have seen for three months how the food system becomes more expensive and affects the surrounding of the world in south america in africa and in other countries, uh, inflation is related to war, what are the effects of counters, uh, ukraine
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, you have already listed the biggest impact, where it can happen, where it can happen, we all have uh, everyone should know and understand what it allows first of all, to political stability, and if this is not done, we know very well that a hungry person will politically lead to various problems, and this must be, and we know that this is a war that is going on now. it can affect stability in africa and people who can be hungry and that it's really a very difficult situation affecting people, and we know that 90% of exports pass through ports, and we
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asked the united nations for military protection, and they are romania's military power. and what season knew could be done if will be able to help to help organize er organize provision and for protection er and he er directly said so we are opening here er sea ports sea maritime er opportunities so as not to be brought to this influence therefore we have to talk to the participants as well of this conflict between russia and ukraine that well
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you organize an agricultural business meeting that you can help and organize all this even that it is organized a meeting that can open blue corridors that can hold we can organize we can talk we can investigate it can be in the black sea - it is not only one way, it is right , it is important to open the ports, because caesar needs new crops, first of all, oil and wheat, but there are more through, we know that my other opportunity to open through passes another through other countries and
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we have to find our own opportunities, you actually promised a very important food crisis and food problems that can and even disasters that can happen in the world due to russia's deliberate closure of ports did not grow from the extreme hunger that we just heard about , in fact, you can watch the full interview in on youtube channels and let's get back to politics, in particular, marat gelman, contact us , gallerist, publicist, representative of the russian anti-war committee, marat, good night. will talk because recently the sixth package of sanctions was still approved and voted and now , uh, partially, but the oil embargo is um,
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countries voted for it. how do you think, how quickly will we be able to see the result? i'm not an economist, but economists say that in the fall sanctions will begin to make themselves felt by the end of this year, and they will become suffocating when i'm in russia. and of course, many say that people well, that's all all these complications will be transferred to the people by the authorities, people will tolerate that the economic sanctions will not have such an effect as they hope, uh, i hope the world community is here but i still think that
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for the most part for the elites for those there i don't know 15,000 people who well, the beneficiaries of this putin's power, this will be a very serious signal, that there will be nothing more, that this is necessary, it will be more profitable for them, eh, how would they leave it, so i believe that it starts with well, from the end of this year , eh, the sanctions will begin to work well, just as powerful as now the ukrainian army is working, i.e. it’s just not. why didn’t it sound like such things were announced, for example, by putin and medvedev, that’s why the sanctions affect the top of the government or the people because, um, this understandable thing was said and broadcast with the same consumers of information that they do not give now, the bears openly declare that these sanctions are against the peaceful population of
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russia because it is already felt that there are fewer imported products, we know that 90% of everything that is in russia is exactly imports this is how to explain the internal struggle now, if the russians feel it, they are ready to react in some way or they are just waiting for something to come up or be resolved by itself. unfortunately, sanctions really work in such a way that it is impossible to punish the authorities without punishing them. citizens and we understand that this was the case before and this was also the case in yugoslavia, that what part of the people, on the contrary , and for these sanctions will pay around the government, that is, it does not lend itself to propaganda, and propaganda will explain that, as you can see, the government is to blame for everything but er, we are hoping for more, i am a part of the people,
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all that will be asked, and for the sake of our own sake , we all tolerate drinking to himself, not to his own environment, this is all the time of the country. why is this war being waged by the authorities and they couldn’t? that is, these are the spells, there is prof-nadshism, where denazification, these spells, in principle, are not meant to be heard, that is, while there were difficulties, well, the population is just v. did not attach importance to it in general, we have a liar. and she somehow thinks that in general any power should be a liar, and as long as it did not concern the wallet, take it easy, i think that this is the question. why
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is this all necessary ? it means part of the people, but how would it weaken putin's power? that is, i honestly believe that these three uh, how would today, uh, the main blow is inflicted on russian power by the ukrainian army, closer to uh, autumn, late autumn the main blow will be, uh, with the help of sanctions when svadebnye central power i hope that the moment will come when the anti-war movement is a protest movement within russia, but it's time to have their say. so you think that the power in russia
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should still be weak central ones? what am i looking for? as long as it doesn't concern the wallet, the people are like how uh-everything is ready to perceive, you know that power is alive and the like, this is the main sign of authoritarianism. they will and will even steal, but they will not touch them, that is, the bottom layer. and when authoritarianism becomes a dictatorship, then in general, the dictatorship has no meaning. it simply dictates what will be and what will not be. and it is not important what people think, ordinary people whose wallets are caught so, i have a question. it seems to me that russia is rapidly moving towards a dictatorship, at least in the region in power. at least putin would probably like this very much.
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dictatorship well, it is possible to disguise the questions in such a branching way, yes, i agree with the fact that the social process is exclusively from the bottom, it is impossible today in russia, but at the same time, a very important moment is happening. well, this is the destruction of this elite concept . -е putin concluded some agreement yes, there he srediev е-е-е he him at the beginning е-е in 2004, this agreement sounded so that all е-е freedom е-е in exchange for a-a blessings yes and so on and so on further and in 2014 it sounded like so that eh refusal to participate in politics. yes, in exchange for
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security, preservation of assets, and so on and so on, it means, respectively, around power today, uh, that's it, that's clintela, uh, putin's, it 's uh, cynical pragmatic people who don't recognize him as one, the majority of them , the majority, if not all, were shocked by the beginning of the aggression, and they are losing every day today. and here is a pear when on the one hand, there will be people's dissatisfaction, and on the other hand, there will be elites who will, well, it's called sitting on treason, i think it
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's a strong weakening of the central government. which is currently gathering in moscow in september for the autumn session, half of it will not come. i know almost all of these people . i don’t know their wallet there, or their family’s supporters, they now perfectly understand that every day the closer they are to power today, the more they don’t lose it now.
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only with the permission of the head of the faction, that is, they are being held now. well, not by force, but at least with special measures, so to speak, so they won't go on vacation, so they won't be able to return from this vacation. putin will start to make mistakes, because the aggression itself was a mistake, yes. miscalculation, he will continue to make more and more mistakes. that is, this is a weakness. you know this. there are people, for example, politicians who are sometimes lucky and sometimes unlucky, and this one is because of putin's half-son until the last moment . all the time was lucky, so once or twice on february 24, when he started the aggression, everything did not go as planned, there will be no further progress, errors will begin one by one, therefore,
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the weakening of power will be well, here is the avalanche with my point of view in the course of a week literally i remember how in the year 85 there was an article about a true article about the war in afghanistan in the course of a week around me i live in kyshneve then the society changed i think that the same thing will happen in russia this is the same people that today we are for him because he is so obedient to this power, he will definitely curse this power, well stronger than you and i. insight will definitely come to this people well, you only know unfortunately, this insight will already be
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the blood of many ukrainians and i am far from confident that someday we will be able to forgive the russians for the fact that they now support this power. unfortunately , the coins were sent to this, look, eh , i invite you to finish your thinking, because i have to move on. putin's sociology is 15-20%. well, it's 30 million people, i just want to say that it's not necessary, it's not necessary to relate to it. this moment will fade

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