tv [untitled] June 2, 2022 8:00pm-8:30pm EEST
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it's crazy to say that everyone should be afraid of him, they can go nuclear there, press a button, and so on. i'm sure that there are certainly many crazy people, but it's also a game on nerves, they want to intimidate those european leaders who are really afraid of her russia, er, and for it to stop supporting ukraine a little, so you know the situation when we talk about what is happening today, i think it is one of the most glorious parts of the history of our country, because remember, for example, the struggle of the ukrainian rebel army in complete isolation against the two essentially nazi and soviet regimes. when they came and occupied all of ukraine in 1945, what did they do?
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for example, here in our city and then we didn't have this support, we didn't have this support from the outside , from around the world we did not have this support internally in ukraine, therefore, as of today, we have that support, we have support that should ensure i am absolutely convinced that it will ensure victory and when we talk about victory, you know i am convinced that it will happen first, the victory is military, but then we will have to fight for the construction of ukraine on all other fronts for a very long time. i mean on the linguistic front, on the cultural front, you know. for example, in poland, not in poland, only the old generation, but older people understand the russian language, in fact, we do not realize here is one simple one simple
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thesis. for example, you know how the ancient romans said whose language is that power, the russian language and ukrainian are not so similar and close, for example, the polish language is significantly different from ukrainian similar in poland, 80% of them practically do not understand the russian language from birth, that's all, who are we here in the studio, our whole generation, well, we understand something very well, and we know the russian language and their entire culture, and so on, but at the same time, we are 60 km from poland and no one will name the essentially modern ones. i don’t know cultural figures, polish performers, etc. why is this happening? well, actually ukrainian. i don’t know, but itunes is ukrainian . until three months ago, the top 20-30 were basically there . it was all russian-language songs, musical
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the hit parade is so absolutely well, for example, there wasn't any, there was any i don't know other than ukrainian , any polish, czech, i don't know slovak er music we don't understand this language although phonetically it is much er closer to us and therefore our the task is still to win on all fronts, to eradicate these remnants of this russian world completely, absolutely, and only then i think that we will be able to truly feel like we are masters of our own land in relation to the russian empire. i am convinced that it must collapse in 20-30 small pieces, and in this way it seems to me that the planet will be able to breathe a little more calmly. well, we understand that in 1991 and in the third year of 1992, we may need to listen to warsaw in the same way in order to learn the language banally, but we are
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all in in the 90s, many people learned the russian language because you turn on the tv. and there is the majority of the russian language. we in western ukraine listened to warsaw and polish radio with the state level to do it. but no one made decisions at the state level. ukraine simply declared its independence was made only by a political step towards disintegration from the russian space, and everything simply remained, and it was not cut off with one blow, somewhere there was cut off somewhere there, and so on. and it all lasted very long, as you know, as they say, chewing gum stretched for decades, this is not the case, it happened in places what is it? well, it is clear, if the same victory had taken place in ukraine as in poland of solidarity, then the situation would have been different, we had a different way of adopting state independence when the former communists remained in power, a significant part of them was integrated into this space, mentally, politically corrupt, and
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so on. if about the year 1991, these were, as it were, personal challenges. i will not lead if there is no kyiv-warsaw. i am ready to lead when there will be kyiv-moscow, which is warsaw. i am on the field somehow. they said ok, let's do it like that. and there really were 20 of these telenovelas, but if i hadn't said well, that's all. someone would have been found who would bulls run moscow and kyiv-warsaw nobody would led or there kiev-prague and on this it is just personal some desires to balance this eastern eastern vector with a western vector that's all we can recall, remember how the late leonid makarovych kravchuk, including it seems in this studio, talked about his conversation with the yeltsians when i asked about it so you will go to the european union and go to the west, yes. and we will not
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let you go. well, because we are so close to us that i can , anyway, we must go back to the first basics of understanding what this channel of mordor is. they never recognized for ukraine and 300 years of no self -identity of any kind from it because it is a dialect of cultural because it is sharovarshchyna there for some little russian village of dikanki from e historical we should have only our interpretation of history and now or state and even in spite of that all that we have had a state for russia for 30 years, this state has always been sufficiently attributive because they looked at it from the position of a metropolis, they say, some of the colonies after the collapse of the union, as well as other colonies , received so-called sovereignty, but since they under us informationally and linguistically, even with their decorative sovereignty, they will always be
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under us, and this is what taras stetske said at the beginning, these are two mutually exclusive concepts of self-awareness as long as russia is russia and ukraine wants and can become ukraine not only in name the letter u and in fact it is sensory meaningful who are you it will never come together and all the formulas of coexistence with that beast will always be a formula with him in it or under him which has been 30 years and now 2014 has come, which for me is very often possibly zero the year of ukrainian self-awareness was not even 91, because it was simply a rebranding and the medals went to the communist soviet rails, and not even 2004, because the orange revolution did not cause systemic shifts of such state-building, but actually the 14th year, when we said that it had european modern the anti-russia project and everything, and it is
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precisely from there that the origins of this global, such an irreconcilable confrontation that will not end at the negotiating table, they can be fixed unconditionally and anyway every war and biden to his visionary speech juniortan wrote everything that every war ends in the village of negotiations, but here the question is that at the negotiating table, this beast will never recognize the right of ukraine to self-determination, its state and actually completely independent, it needs some kind of attribute under them. maybe even an independent state. this is what is at stake and what is at stake for us is simply our full statehood, not just a formal belarus. the version of russia as a beast that swallows all its own, it
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does not assume any form of coexistence, and this is hello to all our ukrainians who still think that they can survive under the side under this carcass of a beast that will die, will ooze blood, will snort its last exhalations, and its forest will not fiery, but he who will not recognize ukraine as a self-sufficient identity that has the right to just a bouquet to bloom together with other peoples in europe. this is, in fact, for me, this is the fundamental basis of the war and its nothing so far who can weigh in on something? i also believe that this is a war for ukraine, for an independently independent ukraine , for which we have been fighting for the last 300 years, you know, 100 days. much has already been
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said about the military aspect, but i would pay attention to the fact that, for example, what as i feel, there are some directions that must be continued until victory, that is, until the destruction of such imperial russia itself, it is the fact that the world order has changed and the question of ukraine is today the first, the second is the fact that we ukrainians are a political nation this time everyone, as i say, entered the war, that is, in the 14th year , this did not happen, and the fact is that we have no other choice, that is, when i do not want to offend anyone, but when slowly, many people talked about crimea, we eh,
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we understood and they said many times that crimea is not some kind of territory for russia to make it attractive, yes, it is a territory to destabilize the european region, it is a territory to demonstrate that ukraine does not exist, and when i heard and said such slogans myself that without there will be no crimea, but that ukraine is not sorry for such words, it is a feeling what we lived with all the years before uh, you start there from the end of the 80s, yes, when we knew that the issue of ukraine as a state as we perceive it is uh, what we want and are building, it is uh, the destruction of russia, yes
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many people thought that it was something like a slogan. today we see that it is a reality. today, we will say it separately based on these considerations, but how to say it more correctly. no, it will not be like that . to consider there, as they say now, up to the limit of the 14th year, yes, that's not it will be the ukraine for which we are now fighting, everyone must remember this very clearly and clearly yes, so that everyone understands that this is again a postponement of the plans of the kremlin's plans and there is no
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need to be afraid i mean there is no need there to think that only we have some difficulties, and russia does not, and i will tell you this: the successes that we have now have a great impact on crimea, when you would really feel how much the living conditions are changing, because of these refugees in crimea who stick and run away in youtube and a psychologist it is not only russia that is energetic, which is like a riot, let's say it is not a rush yes, at the front, there is the same chaos in the heads and
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thoughts of these russians who came there for free to take advantage of what they stole from us, yes, this is natural for russia, and then to give birth there to children and say , oh, what are they doing here, yes, they are not to blame no , now it’s changing, that is, it’s not like that, it’s not the case that someone was there then, putin is to blame , or there, uh, that means i’m in the fourth generation here in crimea, yes, it’s not about kanae, because the ukrainians have changed, that’s what it is because of such blood, but probably this is the price for our er, let's say no, er, until the understanding that what we have lived with for so many years, these are not brothers, they cannot be. danilov probably did not know,
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but we told him when it came to the fact that the russians had gathered insufficient troops on our borders, and on the borders we gave him all the information and the authorities also have a character, because that’s when a small truck that they collected, for example, in the crimea, and it was stationed there for two or three months, and it starts there from december 21st, there we had these conversations, which were called - and the russian military, yes, they said they had no money buy bread there and they said nothing. we will soon be rich, we are in ukraine. we will go and become rich.
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this is another motivation. there could not be any idea that it would be such a war of the military. yes, this is a game. it will be such a limitless terror, yes, in relation to the population of ukraine, yes. and this also made it clear to many of our russian-speaking people. do you remember when i said further that it is russian-speaking? yes, there in crimea, who am i ? crimean tatars, we are crimean tatars we are talking, we did not wait for us to win and then we will start learning the ukrainian language, there is no need now , such processes are going on in the state that prompt you or you have respect for ukraine, in which you live, in
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which you build your success, and please speak ukrainian and you will be respected there is no need to give some kind of skachug to those who naturally do not want to speak it - to speak ukrainian and i, unfortunately, what happened in ternopil, yes, it is correct, as they say, no to such, yes, upbringing there, no because then uh then again and again our children, our grandchildren, our parents are dying because of this, because they were brought up, you can't tell him, you cattle, shut your mouth and talk, that is, you won't do what you want in this state, and these are fundamentally things for which
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the government is responsible there are processes in the state, the government is responsible for them, the language is for everyone to speak ukrainian, it is not necessary for everyone to be a philologist of the ukrainian language, but for them to have respect and speak the ukrainian language so that there are no russian -speakers on some audience somewhere i don't understand that this er-er is fine in russian. no, these are the processes that say that the government doesn't understand this, that we don't need such er-er liberalism, that's why i'm sure. and exactly what do we have there is no choice but victory and what will the war be called, this is our uh, how will we
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talk about it, it will be after you have liberated the crimea and we will call it itself. this is how it will be revealed, it will come out on its own, that's why it's different russia will be, you understand. and about the year 91, no one really knew that this would be possible in a few days for this to change so much yes, but we have to be ready for such changes we ourselves have to be ready, for example, i have been saying this for four years in the morning, but it has not happened in the morning. that is, we, uh, this is a dance of swans, let's see what we do, but the 91st year is due to liberalism of the soviet ot we heard we saw er telekov this dance of swans yes what do we
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do we move on or we wait who will offer us what in the new conditions yes no but for those things and it depends on god given by putin and not from there our partners or from us and the latter is possible probably, this will also happen when the government does not fulfill its duties. i think that in the history of ukraine there was no tsar, but there were hetmans and they were the leaders of military associations. it's just that the society was brought to the fore very well, because if we talk about these 99 and tomorrow will be 100 days of a full-scale invasion, just talking about the language, about the importance of the ukrainian language, about the discussion about how we should treat russian, for those who speak russian, it was definitely one of such
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important episodes of these days, let's briefly comment wanted melnychuk and batenko, and then we go to the survey of lviv residents, who and not only lviv residents and those who came to us as immigrants, we talked with them at the humanitarian headquarters, what do they think about the importance of the ukrainian language, you know, many people now talk about the so-called good russians they say it happens that there is a liberal part of russia, er, there is now in the opposition, conditionally speaking, there is navalny and all the others who were supposedly much better er compared to putin, and probably in the short, short-term perspective, they would really obviously be better, but i am constantly convinced of something that there are no good russians, i will now remind you all that putin himself is a descendant of the so-called liberal wing of russian politics, which was once headed by yeltsin
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, we are feeding him with flour. wings in russia alone, which was behind the collapse of the soviet union, that is, the communists held former generals and so on, then the gkchipa of that time and there was a more liberal party of theirs, which was led by yeltsin and yeltsin won and won after yeltsin's victory, major european countries began to return to russia . the whole of europe was presented at the parade on may 9. he talked about the fact that they could join nato in the european union and all these journalists who are now praising them. since those times there is the same nightingale sand and so on, but over time, by the way. by the way, this whole
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environment provoked putin and over time they turned into what they are now. well, they are a little bit the personification of the absolute dictatorship that is, that now threatens everything civilized world therefore i i would like to warn everyone to be very careful with those who call themselves good russians, liberals who sing diferembas, now in ukraine we need to focus our attention first of all on building our country completely independent from russia with its own agenda with its own task and vision and to completely distance myself from this scoop, if my colleagues allow me, i remembered that i just once wrote a book about putin there in 2000, then handed it over, then somehow admitted that what is his favorite movie and he said that his
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favorite movie it will go to the cuckoo's nest, his favorite actor is jackson, who by the way supported ukraine, well, he silently supported ukraine , a good plot, yes, it is such a big psychiatric hospital under the control of a big totalitarian state machine on the audience, if that's all, what the hell was the soviet union until 1985, it can be controlled as much as i don't know how much, not from mara, no, no, well, the madness will not come out , obviously, from the leaders of this headquarters, as it was during brezhnev's time, or it will not be completely undermined economy, but the soviet union was destroyed , including as a result of the liberal and liberal reforms that were carried out during the 85th dash of 1991, because if they had not existed, i do not know what the collapse of the soviet union would have been, whether it would have been in the 91st year and through would it be so bloodless, what would it take place
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in the year 91 i i i i do not believe that this situation is now a closed country to close society when the liberals of the environment left the russian federation when there is no open opposition parliamentary non-parliamentary and i follow how many individual meetings are there? i mean, there are different chats and so on, those telegram channels, uh, opposition individual rallies, this is this, this is space , if someone went out into the street with the inscription measure, i measured it and all of them were immediately in a folder eh, a big eh- he's a great hero yes, but that's it, but that's one, not dozens or even hundreds, it was mananezhnoy square for the late nimtsov or for that er-er bulk who is now in prison, there are no opposition leaders, the country has been completely cleaned, the internet is already closed, everything is youtube, everything is closed that is, to hope on the liberalization of this country in the near future, the fact
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that it is impossible to speed up the collapse now is a drawback of the country of our country, i believe that we did not study the enemy, did not monitor institutionally at the level of the national security council, at the level of the cabinet of ministers, at the level of individual institutions of the state and outside state institutions, according to the development of political processes of the political elite and not designed the decision of our military for the top leadership of the state, it was not always about the ukrainian leadership. our big disadvantage is that's why i wouldn't be so impressed by the fact that russia can develop so quickly . tomorrow , the hundredth important stage will be passed. many people in our studio said that these 100 days of war demonstrated the great dignity and great
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strength of ukraine and the ukrainian armed forces. your position is definitely something that no one expected. that ukraine is capable of such resistance. because putin, you are right, the most unfavorable thing from the point of view of ukraine is the moment when we are weakening enough if compared to 2019 and have not yet gained the strength and power to which ukraine was going , its sense of self-confidence and its provocateurs who are inside countries probably overestimated the capabilities of the muscovites and underestimated the capabilities of the ukrainians. because no one calculated exactly what would happen in such a fierce political struggle between the authorities represented by zelensky and the servants of the people and opposition, european solidarity, the country is able to unite, the country is able to unite in order to demonstrate that putin is a much bigger
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enemy than anyone inside the country, and this was probably the biggest surprise for the mozkovites and it became the biggest ground for our victory. i was not among those who in the first days, who in the first month of the war talked about a very quick victory . i am not today among those who talk about betrayal , who talk about retreats, who talk about despair , because even then and today i am convinced that our the victory will definitely be that ukraine as a state today with the help of the western world is capable of defeating the muscovites and there is no doubt about it just as i perfectly understand what a great price we pay today for this victory from the life of every ukrainian soldier - this is actually the greatest value we cannot to leave those boys who today were captured by moscow. we must today, like yesterday, like the day before yesterday
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, help the soldiers of the armed forces of ukraine, because this is a great shift in ukrainian society for sure the basis of our victory. i am your discussion about the ukrainian language and i simply put it for myself, including the question of the ukrainian language in the definition of victory. because when we say what victory is, we must definitely include the functioning of the ukrainian language as the basic language of the ukrainian people. in all spheres of life and i am convinced that it will be so because today there is no difference who were you yesterday by origin what language did you speak yesterday today there is awareness in almost 100% of ukrainians that language is the basis of our the future victory and the base of our organization in society, the second thing that is not subject to any
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discussion is the territorial integrity of ukraine. i was very shocked by the statement of high-ranking officials that victory is a return to the borders on february 23. it is unacceptable not only to talk about it, it is also unacceptable to even think about it because crimea is ukraine, donbas, luhansk region is ukraine, and the war will not end until the blue-yellow flags are raised over these territories, the third thing is our membership in the european union, we we have a unique chance in june to get candidate status, this is not just a virtual prefix to the position of the ukrainian state, candidate status
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