composition, we stated our own position, and to be honest , we constantly communicate with the authorities that in this war we are fighting for our values, for the values ​​of the rule of law, for everyone to be equal before the law. well, there is no point in winning the war with russia and turning into it myself. i very much hope that, after all, these decisions will be corrected and, in the future, such violations of the procedure will not be applied, because war is not an excuse, once again, human rights during war are limited, but limited only to the extent why is it necessary? well, not because someone wanted something so much or they think it is necessary in relation to the authorized person, so here you have to ask her first of all, i mean lyudmila tenisova, because she has a case for appeal in

court, will she will she use them or will she go to court to defend her rights? well, actually , denisova will appeal her dismissal in court. and she actually wrote about it in her telegram that she was dismissed in violation of the constitution, laws and international standards, and therefore she will appeal to to the court to appeal this decision, mrs. oleksandr, what , uh, thank you for these answers, we don't have much time left, and still i want to ask about the international investigation of crimes by russians in ukraine, how does the investigation of war crimes in ukraine look now, and the involvement of international investigators in it, and secondly, how optimistic are you about the concrete results of the work of the international criminal court and those tribunals whose creation was decided by the european parliament and the parliamentary assembly the council of europe, whose idea was supported by the united states, the european union, great britain. yes, but at the same time

, despite the fact that everyone supports us, we have other examples . transferred files on war crimes in russia to the international criminal court and still no conclusions or verdicts, as it will be in the case of ukraine. how optimistic are you, after all, and in what timeframe in the future, there may be a concrete effect of this international work of the work of ukrainian human rights defenders and investigative prosecutors, which is happening now, the decisions you cited are calls to create such an international hybrid tribunal, and unfortunately, the decision on its creation has not yet been adopted, why, unfortunately, because once again we cannot rely exclusively on the international criminal court, it will investigate only the number of episodes chosen by it, which means

that we are facing the task of who will ensure justice for tens of thousands of victims from war crimes, but only those elections for the investigation of the international criminal court, we are currently still looking for answers to this task through advocacy and through the call to create this international hybrid tribunal that would combine the work of national investigators, international investigators , national courts, international courts under one roof, this tribunal you were not somewhere in the gas, but in ukraine, i dream that it will be in mariupol, so that it will be a very visible justice, so that people who cannot protect themselves now, and i as a human rights defender i don't have any legal tools to stop these murders, these tortures, these shellings of civilian objects, they understood that this was so, but it was temporary, temporary, such a disorientation of all legal institutions, but justice is there, because it is

delayed in time, so we are working on this now absolutely with i am in solidarity with you. what should i allow? i will add that , in my opinion, the best thing we can do in order to honor the people who died from russian lawlessness is to be very consistent in observing legal institutions and the principles of law and of democracy and human rights in this country. this is simply what we have to do here for ourselves, this is our homework here, it does not depend on putin, but i want to emphasize that our homework does not end here, and in particular, in order for this to happen the tribunal of the international criminal court must be ratified. the rome statute of ukraine is also extremely important . the armed forces of ukraine and valeriy zaluzhnyi will do it. we don’t have to wait for the initial one. ukraine’s ratification of the rome statute can be done. to take place now, er, to delay for a

long time, let us remind you that this statute gives the court the right to consider such international crimes as genocide, crimes against humanity, crimes of aggression, in fact, everything that russia and its army are doing now in ukraine, and to consider the international criminal court in gaza can these cases under three conditions, this is the ratification of the state of the rome statute. well, other conditions , legalization is absolutely necessary. in 2018, the parliament sent two declarations, that is why the international criminal court is already investigating the crimes that were committed without waiting for ratification, because it has the right to do so, and ukraine itself, several years ago, called on it to take this case under its supervision, but the problem remains

absolutely right, we need to ratify the rome statute, because we are getting into very strange situations, on the one hand , we have an obligation to cooperate with the international criminal court, and on the other hand, we do not have any rights that other member states of the international of a criminal court under the rome statute. well, this issue should have been resolved a long time ago, back in the 16th year, when the constitution was amended, the constitutional reform took place, and it was possible to ratify the rome statute. this was not done, and here it is already a century old, according to article eight of the agreement with the eu about the association. that is, it is our simple task, which we should have done a long time ago, to write the same nonsense. i apologize for that. it is like what maryana bezugla issues from time to time as a lawmaker, so to speak, in the parliament there is time to adopt the rome statute

. emotionality may be excessive today on the air well, it's just me, this is this topic for me it is important inna people's deputy of ukraine first deputy minister of education and science of ukraine in 2014-16 with us in connection with dubbed from ireland, today we have just a number of such inclusions from e-e from various world platforms where conversations about ukraine are taking place, various important decisions are being made , we congratulate mrs. inna. good day, we note that the people's deputies of ukraine from several political forces are currently on the drive of the alliance of liberals and democrats for europe party in dublin, ireland , among them and on samsung from the voice of mrs. inna, tell us about your front of diplomatic work

and the first results of the trip of their people's deputies to i'm joking, and we heard that the people's hearing was also taken to this party. and there they were taken in full force, or did they say listen, there are a couple of people there who are more communist, we will definitely not be like brothers, we all know by hand i mean, there is one head of the committee like that, i want to tell the most unfortunate person among the athletes that they are now liberals. yes, and so far i do not know whether this information was passed on to him or not, and because there are some questions regarding the liberality and democracy of the party, the servant of the people but we will hope that they will grow up to these beautiful and correct ideas uh-uh positive i agree positive this is how we weld as a person after all from a teaching environment i believe that people can grow and i really hope that this will be used

as an opportunity for growth and this uh means uh more this is in english maturing and growing up, including the political ideas of the proposals that are heard because i heard part of your emotional speech and i partially agree with the emotions and share them so because in fact there is a part of the ideas that are presented now the parliament has succeeded, which, frankly speaking , it would be worthwhile to speak in more detail and to approach this more consciously, right now, the congress is still going on, and actually, it’s only the second day of the congress right now, and you have to understand that the alliance of democrats and liberals of europe is... is one of the largest party associations, which includes the president of france, macron, and the prime minister of the netherlands, currency, so that in this context, it is especially important for ukraine. why because, as of today, these two countries are for us blocking in the plan of granting the status of a candidate for

membership of the european union for ukraine and actually one of the e let's say the reasons why it is important to be represented here. countries about the need to provide ukraine with an application, but i will honestly tell you that these negotiations are going very hard and there are some arguments that are frankly quite difficult to answer on the ukrainian side, and for example arguments about and questions about the level of corruption in ukraine, and these questions are asked even by those who love and support us very much. they are ready to take out weapons, take out anything. and they want to understand how seriously ukraine as a state is ready to fight corruption and well, let's be honest about what we have we ourselves also have these questions, and frankly, there are a lot of them, and that's why, actually speaking, such negotiations are quite difficult on

this matter, but we hope that everything will be able to be convinced, but if not, it is very important understand the reasons why it is not possible to convince and correct these first reasons, and not rush to accuse other countries. and if they have any questions about ukraine's aspirations to really reform in the direction of the european union , regarding the decision adopted by the senate of ireland. of the russian army in ukraine, how important is ms. inno, how much was the trip of ukrainian parliamentarians to ireland, how much did she speed up this decision, yes, through the conversation through internal affairs and, in general, what changes in your opinion is the addition of ireland to the number of countries that recognized russia's crimes in ukraine as genocide. let us remind you that estonia, latvia, canada, poland

, lithuania and the czech republic have already done this. this has already been recognized as genocide and the actions of the russian federation on the territory of ukraine, they were the usual sasps and those whom we usually know to be stable and permanent friends of ukraine who always consistently give us the maximum support and assistance, and ireland was not this country that, you know, traditionally was a powerful engine that constantly talked about supporting ukraine, and the inclusion of ireland here, this is actually an expansion of the circle of countries that support proactively support ukraine, despite the fact that ireland is very important to understand because it is here there is an internal debate now, officially according to the constitution it is a neutral country, they cannot provide weapons simply because it is prohibited by their constitution, but they are trying in every way to support in another way

ukrainian women, and to a large extent because the population of ireland is very, very supportive of ukraine . believe me, i saw it on such a very everyday level, starting with the taxi driver who was traveling with us and who, when he found out that we were from ukraine, started to inquire, to be interested. he knows a lot. there is a lot to understand. in conclusion, simply visually, we see a large number of ukrainian flags on the streets, a very large number of people with some blue-yellow ribbons on their shoulder pads or on their bags, etc. and so on, that is, in ireland irish people support ukraine very much. and this is the result of such and previous long work and the work of ukrainian political parties with irish political parties to promote ukrainian interests. but this is such an inconspicuous work, perhaps not so bright, not so impressive, but very important for building this pro-ukrainian coalition in the western world and here ireland,

i repeat, it is very important that a country that is outside the usual pool of our friends, that is, usually supports us projectively, but this country now stated a position and i really hope that this will become an engine for other countries to recognize the events in ukraine as genocide and to take the appropriate and legal consequences. and the most important thing is to support us from our word, madam, if i may come to you as the first deputy minister of education and science in 14-16 years old. i know that the topic of education is always close to you. and this is grateful. look, there is an important point. that is, we know it, ideas, we don't know what and how and how it will all end, nevertheless, don't plan now, summer, for example, next the academic year would be well at least wrong, especially since we can in principle predict something. of course, there could be a nuclear war there, god forbid, i don’t know there, meteorites are global and so on, but well, we live, we are people.

we plan, and to plan means to plan what will happen to us. on september 1, in particular, there is an understanding in schools. i think it is emerging at least at the export level, but not even at the level of parents, relatively speaking, to go with those textbooks, in particular , in the humanities, well, it would be mild, to put it mildly, after the war with russia, this applies inadequately and of foreign literature with this simply the dominance of pushkin lermontov and the whole of stalinist history, this applies to history textbooks and our enemy feels the weight of history very much, so i am actually quoting this incorrect quote from bismarck because it was not bismarck who said it, but it was said by a teacher from lambsiv cool about the fact that the teachers won the war between austria and prussia and they understand it so clearly, they can see what is happening in the temporary full territories, the first thing they do is that all the teachers search for, give, burn ukrainian stifling, and in the literal sense, they even give out russian ones that are simply transcribed during this

war, they well, you know about all these stories, that for example, even the mention of ukraine is removed from the textbook and so on, this is a war, including school programs, do we draw any conclusions or there are this million hryvnias on na on it's all processed well, what's happening now, look, i , uh, now i'm trying to speak very carefully about the executive power and in every possible way work for political unity, because it's very important now but in the matter of the ministry of education, even despite all the desire to demonstrate unity, i can not do this. we have a very weak minister who does nothing to correct the critical situation that exists now, who does not respond to all challenges, we do not see him publicly present we do not see any steps on the part of the ministry. there was one statement from the ministry that they will review the curricula and because it is important to understand that

in order to change the textbook, the curriculum must first be changed. the program is unchanged at the level of the ministry, so it is impossible to change the textbooks because the textbook must correspond to this program. yes, but to the great regret of any results of work in this direction . no, my position on literature is very radical, but i think that this is the only correct position at this moment, it is to exclude absolutely all russian authors from literature textbooks for teaching literature, in principle, this maybe it’s uh, theoretically, i understand the counter-argument of this, which sounds like a molar, we need to know the enemy in the face, we need to understand where they get these ideas from, critically rethink them. i know that at the level of practice of 400,000 ukrainian teachers

, a large number of them will not be able to critically rethink russian literature and in the conditions when it will remain, well, let it be there. let even half and this is very optimistic the optimistic number of teachers who will teach russian literature in the same way as before, yes, this is just a big threat, and that is why my position is that they should be completely excluded. maybe i will return later after the retraining of teachers, i will introduce new approaches to teaching literature, and so on. so on. come on, we now have to exclude them completely , but unfortunately, this solution is final from the minus of education. i see it and accordingly reprinting textbooks is basically impossible, but i will add one more here other than the political decision to reprint textbooks based on the new program we have a very serious technical problem now, in principle, we actually do not have the ability to technically print the textbooks that had to be

printed i am not talking about printing new additional ones and replacing the ones that were and now it is a very big threat to the whole reform of the new ukrainian school because our children from nusher have to go to the fifth grade. yes, that is, they have finished primary school and have to go to the fifth grade. and this is what classes say and the publishers' book actually to him yes yes this is a problem and i sound the alarm in the seller talking about the fact that the war has provoked a crisis with paper, these are all our challenges of our wartime, ladies, and you will write in your blog about the new sanctions from taiwan for the supply of chips to russia and belarus, i would like to literally talk with you for a minute about this, it is about the ban on the sale of equipment for the manufacture of microprocessors and microcircuits, and at least such sanctions

were announced by taiwan back in the beginning of the russian invasion but actually announced this decision right now, how important is the news, how hard will it hit russia, and what is its actual value, apart from the fact that any confrontation with the aggressor country is a positive for us right now. a small thing, and about semiconductors and chips, but you have to understand that russia, proud of all russian science, the academy of sciences is not yet capable of intellectual technological production of these things on its own, now knowing that any equipment, including military equipment that needs any electronics, russia loses the opportunity to manufacture and this is actually a critically important decision for which we should be very grateful to ivan and i think to review our policy regarding taiwan in principle because ukrainian policy regarding taiwan remains extremely uncertain but at least thank taiwan for doing it because believe me

it's a small decision but it basically undermines the possibility of military production in russia and will actually have much more consequences than we we can even imagine it now, but here it is important that why this decision is such a fate and for the future we need to remember that russia and its scientific capacity is much lower than it imagined but we need to remember why because this means that we need to be scientifically much more capable and developed so that they do not end up in such a situation as russia. but russia, you know, is such a big, uh, naked king, as it turned out, and uh, such a decision as a decision under taiwan greatly undermines its power for the future. thank you very much, ms. well, i it seems that she was innocent today, it is a completely normal approach to simply take and ban this russian literature for now what and then specially trained people in radiation and chemical protection in bacteriological suits will work with individual samples of their literature and culture and

disinfect and think that it is possible to let children consume it, in principle, people's deputy the first deputy minister of education and science of ukraine was in contact with us in 2014-16, the lady did not perform these functions. and now serhii shapovalov the analyst of the democratic initiatives foundation named after ilko kucherev is also in touch with us. congratulations, mr. serhiy. good day, and it is an important topic for us to discuss. an extremely thorough study was presented by the foundation for initiatives these days, namely yesterday, the results of sociology were published. entitled the struggle in the informational and cultural spheres, what do ukrainians think about the state language policy and propaganda against the background of russian aggression. ukrainians to the state language policy of ukraine

if we talk about one of the measures of the state language policy that caused the most discussions last year, the introduction of the mandatory use of the state language in the service sector , now there is a positive attitude towards the approval of this norm, it has been strengthened in ukrainian society , by the way i have to make a clarification, we did not conduct the survey in general throughout ukraine, but in 11 regions - these are seven regions in the west-west of ukraine and four regions in the center of ukraine a-a khmelnitsky vinnytsia kirovohrad cherkasy because unfortunately in other regions the population structure has undergone significant changes and in the south and east part of the territory there is also occupied and part of the territory a lot of the population has left, so we can't conduct a survey from below all there can we say that it is actually representative, but not what is the representativeness in this case? now, in this survey, we are talking about the opinion of citizens

living in 11 regions of ukraine, that is, 7 regions in the west of ukraine, and that is, what does the center think central and western ukraine, roughly speaking, if we talk about the approval of this norm on the use of the state language in the service sector, then, in principle, even before the russian invasion in these regions, a positive attitude dominated in february 21 of the same year regions about 72%. approved such a provision of the law, now people have become even stronger in this and uh, in this conviction, and it has become 85%, uh, people approve of such a provision of the law, and only 8% do not approve, at the same time, it is an interesting observation that if from there are options in the survey, i fully support, i rather support yes, and before it was about half of those who fully rather support, but now 63%

fully support and there are still 22 rather, that is, what do you mean that people, er, are increasingly convinced that the state is must do in this way to protect the state language, moreover, even before that, we conducted a survey in kharkiv region in july 2021 , then it was possible. of ukraine that he is entirely russian-speaking there, he never perceives this norm of the law, in fact, then the results were very uniform, the results there were such that uh, 42% of the residents of the kharkiv region approved of this norm of the law, and likewise 42% did not approve of the others. it is difficult to say, but now, that is equally yes those who approved and approved but now i suspect that everyone has understood that the language and cultural product is

russian this is just another tool of russian aggression and that is why i think that approval even in the east of ukraine has now grown even more as as soon as such an opportunity arises, we will definitely measure it. it is so interesting and somewhat contradictory in my opinion. also, there is the result when it is asked whether freedom of speech is more important than security. 65% say that security comes first, 22% only think the personal word is more important and well, in principle, this is clear for a country at war, where security is definitely in the first place, on the other hand, uh, 51%, more than half of them spoke out against restricting freedom of speech for the sake of order, how do you comment on this, contradictory figures, in fact, this is a military dilemma time yes, when it is on the one hand, we as a democratic state must take care of freedom of speech, on the other hand, we must take care of information

security at the same time and let's say choose one or the other, it is that the dilemma is artificial, in fact, because it is always necessary to find a balance between with these things, it is clear that when you put such a dilemma in front of people, now in the conditions of war, people give priority to security, because if we do not save the state, then freedom of speech will already help us if it does not come from another bloc . there for the sake of restoring order in the country. they do not agree with the fact that for the sake of restoring order in the country, the freedom of speech can be temporarily restricted. for the most part, they do not agree with this. that is, what does this mean, that you always have to look for a balance, yes, and what kind of information security can you have? place, but not substantiated, restrictions on the work of journalists or tv channels should not have a place,

even today, and turning off certain tv channels, for example, a marathon without sufficient justification for this decision, is society does not approve. that is, we want to win in this war. but we want to win as a democratic country, if you can sum it up like that, well, definitely. we do not want to become the second russia after we win this war. i don't like it, they want to turn us into the same zombies as themselves, but um, our free thinking is what forces our nation to fight with all its might against this russian invasion, and we will never voluntarily we will not refuse this, thank you, thank you, mr. serhiy shapovalov, analyst of the democratic initiative foundation named after ilko kucherev, was in touch with us and talked about the foundation's fresh sociology. i would also like us to briefly outline what we will have

after the news release, namely an exclusive interview. andrii tzeichuk with the historian n. eplbom andriyu what did they talk about ? listen, i'll say it simply. but well, i'll tell you nothing. it's just that i actually interviewed for the first time at apple, because for me it's a person that i'm just. i'm 46 years old. i've been in this profession for 25 years. i had the impression that i'm standing again with that recorder taking the first in my life, an interview . this is also one of the most popular polish politicians

played pravda was the minister of national defense, the minister of foreign affairs, the marshal of the sejm, poland , and his language is far from english, but it is at the beginning of this invasion. by the way, he distinguished himself with a very powerful anti-putin anti-russian rhetoric , which was not yet in trend at the time, and anne apple, let's say that she is actually the author k- a significant number of books about ukraine and this and actually a book about the holodomor, your red hunger is on stalin against ukraine, yes. well, she pays attention to ukraine in her research, and uh, it’s not the dawn, but i’m all the sunset democracy yes yes smack yes smack or