uh, we have to determine for ourselves what is a gain and then determine whether we will be helped in this or not . so that we don't let the ukrainian economy be destroyed, so that we don't lose people, it 's primarily a matter of ukrainians, whether they will get us to help or not, it's also our business, because it's obvious that the western democratic society will get tired of the war. they will also suffer losses due to sanctions, there will be a heating season in the fall and in the winter it will be difficult for them their society will start to put pressure on their government many refugees may come to them if there is a famine er it will be an additional pressure on their societies russia will finance and support the opposition in their countries support may decrease er so it depends on very - a lot of factors, but the main factor in this is ourselves, and it seems to me that the authorities do not understand this, because the authorities are thinking about how to make them responsible for the problems that have arisen,

for example, in western countries, which we have too little of weapons are also given to the society in a partial way, and a lot of people think that they have abandoned us, they will not give us weapons, as we are here, we will surrender to russia and let half of them be exterminated, what will happen then, that is why i think that we need to think in other categories, what do we need to do in order to win, so that the entire ukrainian territory, including the one occupied in the 14th year, was under the control of the ukrainian state and ukrainians, this is the right question and the answer to this should be given to ourselves. it is somewhere to find pressure on western governments from the side of ukraine, from the side of ukrainian society, diplomacy , and politicians, and they can force them to give the weapons that can bring victory to the ukrainians, because many people say, but if the americans don’t want it, they won’t give weapons to the counteroffensive is impossible well, we will have to negotiate with putin

, one way or another, it seems to me that it is now very actively discussed in the european capital. we should not force anyone. we should demonstrate the will of ukrainian society if it exists when societies from the countries of eastern europe wanted to be members of nato and the european union. they unanimously demonstrated this will. they did not see another way out or another option for themselves. they actively engaged in diplomacy for this purpose. they actively negotiated in order to achieve some goal. if you want to achieve something, you must set the goals correctly a when our government sometimes says too much for us to get out and now we will make some other defense union with the poles and appeals and it will be beneficial for us and maybe we will do something else no we will we want to join the european union. we want to join the european union. but we don't want to be told how our courts should

work or what media freedom should be in our country. by the way, i would like to clarify one more important thing, what is this whole conversation. if we are given weapons, we will be forced to negotiate with putin in one way or another. there is no point in the discussion, because then there will be no agreement with us one way or another. he is not going with us at all to agree, i am trying to explain. this is from the norman four of mykola in paris in december 2019 , which means that this will be the last meeting between putin and zelensky, and ukrainian citizens and the president of ukraine himself have to live with this and this opinion. contacts with puti ended in december 2019. the next contact is either zelensky is invited to putin's funeral or putin kills zelensky or destroys him there and enjoys his victory, so these people can meet one must be dead and this is certainly unpleasant to hear by the way, i would very much like zelenskyi to be alive. i want to note this right away. i wanted to see zelenskyi there, even virtually at putin’s funeral, but alive putin does not consider ukraine

a state, does not consider zelenskyi a president, he will negotiate with the united states of great britain, but which part ukraine or all of ukraine will be given to him, he does not have another subject for conversation, whether zelensky should go to putin's funeral unless it happens as a result of our successful military operation, of course yes, we have already in touch with serhii danilov. we thank mykola , the people's deputy of european solidarity from knyazhytskyi, who reported on what was happening in the verkhovna rada, and now ukrainian viewers of espresso tv channels know about it firsthand . of the liberty battalion, the captain of the national guard of ukraine, who is currently stationed in the rubizhnye district, there is heavy fighting there, he simply could not physically get in touch with us and the italians. and that is why we transfer to serhii danylo, deputy the director of the center of middle eastern studies and not in such a capacity, we invite him, at least

not the first, the first questions will not concern the middle east. he is in the occupied or half-occupied, half-occupied kherson oblast . it's clear, that's all, mr. serhiy, you can hear us, yes, i do. i wish you good health, mr. serhiy. so , i still didn't understand you. where are you and what do you see around? oh , i'm in kyiv, and in kyiv. i have i was supposed to meet my contacts on february 24th, but i didn't have time to get there. the road was already blocked. but you have some

contacts with kherson oblast. there was such an attempt at a counter-offensive or counter-offensive actions, then they talked about it, then they stopped talking about it , so i didn’t understand where i was. what’s going on with the front line? okay, in the kherson region. that’s how to say. i'm going to a military colleague, i hear a lot of voices on the air, it's very difficult for me to answer the host's questions, i'm sorry. that is, what kind of studios are there? sorry, can you improve a little

? will it be strengthened or can it stand and can become the basis for the fact that the group that is on the edge of the attack to the north on kryvyi rih then it would be, well, not in a full-fledged environment, but under e-e communication routes to it would be under fire under the control of the ukrainian army. well, if this happens, it will be a serious enough factor that will affect many processes not only at the front but also in the occupied territories, and mr. serhiy. well, when you say a serious factor, it is a factor with a sign, rather a plus for ukraine. with a minus sign, of course a plus, every movement of the ukrainian army at the front greatly affects the atmosphere in the

city of kherson in the occupied settlements, when the ukrainian army moves, people who are in a very difficult psychological state must be understood what is the atmosphere like now, i am constantly communicating or reading what people write about their reflections on everyday life in the occupied territories. it is very difficult and every advance of the army definitely gives hope, hope is now such a thing that is very expensive, but it is. let's try to talk globally, so you hope that it will be possible to unblock ukrainian ports and somewhat reduce the risk of famine in the middle east. is that all for now, such maneuvers by russia, which, as we can see, are already aimed at? isn't the unblocking of belarusian portions of these goods between ukraine more

imported ukrainian grain, well, russia really wants to become a savior from hunger, but now on the website of the text there is a very good investigation about the dynamics of the supply of grain from russia since the beginning of the war , and there, according to sea traffic and according to the ships, in principle, it has been proven that somewhere around 60,000 tons of ukrainian grain was exported and a very alarming statement when hmm du- a very alarming statement from the turkish side that er turkey will accept states as a hub for this grain because before that ukrainian stolen grain went to syria lebanon and libya is obviously in order to further distribute or satisfy these regional local markets. and with the

increase in stolen volumes of stolen grain, it will be er distributed further in the region as if it had not been stolen, well, when you follow them here, some er turkish movements in this direction, they they look quite, well, let's say so unpleasant, how much does turkey think that it can accept such grain and act as a guarantor, this grain will be stolen for now, and i don't really believe in the full unblocking of the ports, let's remember mr. mykola knyazhytskyi and you believe in unblocking the party because, as far as i understand, they are currently a discussion in europe. some say that let's spend some time there under the protection of the military, some ships there, ukrainian grain, others say - this is the danger we are exposed

to, if the russian answers, which can be different , hint at nuclear ones, that is it is so desirable that some ukrainians give it away when they say that it is possible to unblock odesa and from odesa to supply grain to north africa and the middle east, well , you need to understand why the blocked they are blocked because there is such a russian fleet. by the way, lviv is also shelled very often and other territories of ukraine, and there was always a threat of an amphibious landing in the same odesa , for example. and by ukraine, because ukraine is defending itself from possible russian aggression, it is obvious to us. now they will give , at least, they are already giving er missiles capable of hitting this fleet and these ships, and if er, we will show our strength and either destroy this vlad or this fleet will leave and the water area will be unblocked, then it will be possible to

resume exports, there are other options, i don’t believe in convoys, it’s possible and i think that these are all fairy tales, it’s like that, they once said that we will close the sky russian fighter jets. obviously, they won't do it, just as they won't go about destroying the russian fleet on their own, which is blocking the exits . they talked about a signal from turkey. i saw the signal today of the talks between the un secretary general and the president of belarus, and the president of belarus says that we can allow ukrainian grain to be transported to the baltic ports, but these ports must be open for belarusian goods. well, that's it. do you understand it? is also such a dangerous signal that russia may simply begin to circumvent western sanctions because such ports from the well to belarusian goods are ports open for russian goods in of course, you can stick the label we are the only

belarus. well, we know how it has been doing this since the 14th year. everything happened, yes, you know, like the logic of the crime of the 90s, you need to create a problem and then, uh, exchange the solution of this part of this problem for some benefits for themselves well , belarus and the russian federation are doing the same now. they are trying to exchange a promise to unblock. i emphasize only the promise because it is profitable for them to trade for as long as possible and trade here in parts, and it is not profitable for me to quickly solve this problem and they have created a problem with their own hands, they will sell it to the world, it is near east africa, to the progressive public as a way to save the world, sergey, and how do you see it, it is a real

danger of large migration processes to europe from the north of africa and from the middle east due to the lack of bread there, for example, this is a reality, that is, they really can to repeat the phenomenon that already occurred after the bombing of syria, well, look at the previous migration crisis - this is the syrian crisis , of course, under the guise of syrians, a lot of citizens and different countries joined there afghanistan but it was a civil war of barbaric methods that we introduced the war, first assad and then russia and turkey's agreement to become a transit, but we have to give up. well, to be honest , turkey usually accepted a very large number of these proteins

. i believe, but the increase in the price of food products will lead to such a social explosion that will start a civil war like the syrian one somewhere in the countries of north africa. well, i think i could be wrong. but i it seems that there is such a bloody civil war there, for example, in algeria and egypt, we do not expect, but we can fully expect social unrest in these countries, which will call into question the stability of the regimes that are in place now, thank you, thank you in general. well, we see that the ukrainian crisis is 100 ideas mykola is turning into a global one, and it is therefore a very big challenge, and i have a question: how ready are we to understand what russia is doing, it has not yet turned, they

want to do it in order to turn the ukrainian crisis they don't have a global one. by the way, there is no other way out of this situation. well, we don't have another way out of this situation, and there is no way to prevent this from happening or to make it so that the world survives this global crisis and successfully copes with it, and that's why i even wrote today about is that we need a very serious unification of internal efforts, we have quite a lot of people who are in different political forces in different factions who have experienced international politics, obviously i am there european solidarities, we have a very strong diplomat konstantin eliseyev and poroshenko himself, who meets with leaders at the highest level, just like arseniy yatsenyuk, who had a lot of experience , just like hryhoriy nemyriv, for example, and many others, in which in the faction of yulia tymoshenko there are people like kogryzko, there are people who held positions, so we, we mentioned the israeli example, i

remember how people that this is the most important thing, i write in their numbers, i did not hold any positions, and the function was to travel around the united states and collect financial assistance and unite people, those ukrainians who can get involved in this and have experience should be involved for this, and we do not need to divide here into representatives of one or another political forces on who treats whom and in what way, because ukraine has one water for everyone, if it is not there, it will not be here. there will be no political forces if we understand this, if we understand under what conditions the west will not be able to refuse us and will be ready for the crisis and ready to overcome it not at the expense of our interests, then we will be able to do it, this is a very serious challenge to ukrainians and to the ukrainian nation to its maturity, first of all, this is a challenge to the maturity of the government, i have doubts about the maturity of our government, this is also not a big secret

. in the end, the desire to preserve the country and one's personal responsibility, they should involve everyone. and how many strong ukrainians are there in the diaspora, who, in such a critical situation, could join this, e.e. specialists who hold high positions, why not talk to him why not ask them for support, why not open up and say, let's think together in what way we will do it. so when it will be when we are not preparing for the elections, but we will still be preparing in order to somehow win the war, then i think this we will have a chance. oh, one more question, and look. does anyone think? well, we talked about agricultural problems, and there we talked about belarus. well, it is obvious that we need to make more transitions where we can introduce this grain by machines in the west of ukraine. i don't know if there is a ministry there. infrastructure, understanding how many of these

transitions are needed, how much is needed to invest, how much is needed . can some changes be made to the railways, reforms , that is, think about the fact that this grain gets to europe from european ports, further to somewhere in africa or wherever it is needed, but just me. i meet farmers on the street who are sitting in lviv is waiting for when they will push through this throat, this narrow part of western ukraine, their goods and to buy it, so that ukraine will get some money, well, look, i don't know how fast ukraine works i know that at least yesterday an agreement was announced to increase the a-a crossing in krakivka , its completion by increasing its e-e throughput capacity, this is of course very important if you look at e-e what gunpowder does from bombing, for example e-e bridges in belgorod-dniestrovsk to odesa, and the attempt to bomb the transport arteries in the

lviv region and the transport infrastructure is from this support. at first, they bombed the substations, the ukrainians got out of this situation because they either started bringing transformers to somehow change them there or to use diesel locomotives instead of electric locomotives and then they started building bridges or transport routes, this is of course a very big threat. i don't know how prepared the government is for this, but it is definitely necessary to prepare for this because their goal is twofold , they do not want fuel to come here because the russians destroyed a large part of the bases and oil refineries, and we import them with fuel, and they do not want grain to be exported from here, these are parallel processes, and russia continues. even now , everything is being done to disrupt this, ukraine and how effectively is he trying to provide alternative ways to tell me, i hear that this is happening, but i see in the lines at gas stations about the lack of diesel fuel and

that, as you say, the farmers are waiting and cannot leave, that these issues have not yet been resolved . once twice it is published we thank mykola oliy knyazhytska chief editor of the defect express e-e good health mr. olezh thank you for taking the time to e-e talk with us we tried today yes, we have a lot of political there were some questions with vitaly, but we also touched on defense issues a little, then the question is for you . and what is happening over there in the east, where some people say it is not important to hold severodonetsk, others say that it is important to hold severodonetsk, so you can tell us whether it is strategically important point on the map on the map of ukraine, in my opinion, among donetsk, it is extremely important for

putin, because he needs to put his victories on the altar, which he will call a victory, that is, at least for him, it is necessary it is important to say that the russian federation now controls the luhansk region, after he promised to take kyiv in three days, that is, this is the progress in 100 days of the war. which well, he has almost nothing to show, so in fact, in my opinion, our general staff works as pragmatically as possible from the point of view of what panel e there are certain lines that are convenient to defend and they are defended if even now we look at the map from the battle in the city, we can see that our fighters have retreated to the industrial zone, which is much easier to defend than the living quarters and even more so dress up the danger therefore, it is necessary to forget

that behind the cigar intensity there is a height of br we do not work to stand as in my opinion stand to the end because the most important thing is that we have the whole life of our military if the russian federation is ready to lower the photo of its war simply thousands of people for a minimum period of time, then this is her choice . our main task is to stop the humpback, and to stop him, it is necessary not because you stand up and stand, but to find him the maximum number of losses if we say that in 100 days of the war, the score has passed by 30 000 and these are only those who were activated and those who were simply destroyed. and we need to multiply by 2 by 3, these were those who were wounded, then these are exactly the losses that can stop any offensive potential of the russian federation in general, and we must not forget that we constantly receive huge help from our allies, that is, until we receive only the current

high-mars and the usa and the m-270 of great britain. the russian federation is actively removing such things as the t-62 tanks that caught khrushchev, that is, we really have started a war of determination, no matter what you want, you have to already tomorrow it's easy to wake up and find out if ukraine has won. a long period of hostilities awaits us, and these actions may be permanent. the intensity may be less, but the military actions will continue until the russian federation is bled to death and the ideals do not disintegrate at all. on active fragments and there they started their own civil war. oleg, let's imagine such a beautiful picture for the majority of ukrainians, that all the weapons that were promised reached ukraine and were located at the front, this gives optimistic reasons to think that not

only counteroffensive actions are possible, but also counteroffensive yes, and a partial one, because it is constantly being talked about. when i read some foreigners there, they constantly say well, we need to give ukraine not everything it wants, but just enough so that it can defend itself well and sometimes give diarrhea to the russians, but not to proceed to such a frontal counteroffensive, that is, the question arises whether there are already weapons and whether they can enter ukraine that would allow such a counteroffensive when we talk about actions in our country, for example. more difficult let's be objective in front of ourselves, it is much more difficult to defend each other in the next one, moreover, in order to be in an effective offensive , it is necessary to have a whole list of weapons, which in fact we have only just started talking about, first of all , it is necessary to solve the issue of the fact that the russian

federation has a banally larger number of aircraft and fighter aircraft in the sky than in ukraine, it is quite difficult to find any example in the history of conflicts when a country that does not have superiority in the air is able to conduct effective actions in the following, that is, until we will not close the issue with air superiority, it is quite difficult for us, in my opinion, to talk about effective actions in the offensive. moreover, within the framework of the entire country, that is, when we will intervene on the entire front, it may be different when the internal reserves of the russian federation in order to conduct a war at all, they simply will end at a certain point and then there will be a stake on this front, if we are talking about comfortable wars, then we have several examples of which they end, one of the examples is when, er, banal, the enemy has us out social tension explodes and things happen there.

after that, the banal loss of position by the troops themselves, who simply retreat, begins. this is how the first world war ended with a revolution in germany. only the budget army is officially known, it is similar to that of the entire budget of the whole of ukraine, that is, these are the comparisons, and with regard to the help we will receive, we must forget what it comes from, but there are certain limitations, including us, because for example, it takes three weeks to learn how to use hymax, and this is already a shortened program. if we are talking about the example of receiving bmp tanks

there , it will not be one, two or three days. months, it is necessary to feed not only the pilots, but also the maintenance personnel, because in order for the sky to rise like this, a large ground team of launch-specialized engineers is needed, therefore, in fact, this is a question: what other weapons do we need for him to receive, to go, to go. what kind of weapons can be given to us, because they cost a certain amount of money, and in fact, one petri battery is a million billion dollars, that is, these are the numbers, and the fact that we were able to learn and use it and use it, that is, we also have to think about logistical support of this system, that is, unfortunately, we are faced with the fact that ukraine is not integrated into the nato armament, and because of this, there are huge problems with this, that is, they can supply, but the system still needs to be integrated into our armed forces

okay, olezh, we have one and a half minutes left for you to tell us about the problems of the ukrainian army, the problems of training supplies, and so on, but before that, you yourself said about the t-62, which have been in storage somewhere since the 60s, or maybe can russia quickly recover militarily , well, militarily? yes, it can afford to continue producing tanks, missiles, i don’t know what’s there, obviously no, and 100% of the finals in any case, and that’s why they’re removing them from storage warehouses. 62 po already, for example, in the t-72 b3 there are french thermal imagers - it is checked by its stations, and even china refused to place the production of elbrus processors, which

is installed in every model of the russian federation's weapons, in principle, starting from the same rocket launchers of tanks and others, that is, the situation is that they are no longer can manufacture new equipment, the situation is that they cannot even fully repair what is damaged in them. that is, it is a war of attrition, but the difference is that we have a huge amount of dust the size of the entire defense-industrial complex is the world of civilized people, and they have friends among them. here is velo- belarus, so passive. oleg kadkov , the editor-in-chief of defense express, was in touch with us . we will meet after anzhelika sezonenko, who will read the news, and after the news, vitaly portnikov again. and mykola veresen, you will see them here, he does not forget to ask you a question, on which the second half of the next hour must be - this is a question for us. if there are any, please ask