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15 5000 is written in kyiv, you don't believe even because they wrote to you because it's hard to imagine five in kyiv one-room apartment 15 in uzhhorod, of course, such changes took place as a result and everything is not hmm, the exchange rate is growing if it varies like that there- here is the price of the apartment. when ksenia's family adapted to the new city, they began to look for cheaper housing and unsuccessfully reduced the cost of the current apartment. the owner was also in no hurry , because in the city and region, forced immigrants filled not only vacant apartments, but also houses cultural, educational and temporarily occupied territories therefore, but in general the market will be saturated with apartments and prices will definitely decrease according to un data in ukraine there were 8 million people who were forced to leave their homes accordingly this affected demand in areas where there are no active hostilities, for example the cost rents per square meter in dollars increased the most in zakarpattia
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oblast by more than 200 percent compared to pre-war times, followed by chernivtsi oblast by 156 percent, ivano-frankivsk oblast with growth for more than 100 lviv and cherkassy for a little less from prykarpattia ivan kharuk igor gursky specially for the espresso tv channel we saw a story from kyiv about the real estate market e-e now e-e ivano-frankivsk mykola onufrienko is with us the head of the company 's sales and residential rental department do.com welcome you mykola, good day, well, look, we saw the ivano-frankivsk plot, and there is also information like this compiled from the lun project, yes, the flatli team, it’s called, they analyzed the secondary real estate market, and here are the highest prices for this same real estate, thanks to their information, increased precisely in transcarpathia, frankiv region and bukovina, we can now see it on the maps, and then lviv region and cherkasy region, and
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it does not affect the offer in any way, it is still too high in these regions. how do you comment - comment on these maps that we saw, what we now we observe that the largest increase in housing rental prices is observed in western ukraine, there is nothing surprising because at first the military aggression more of the people who were, let's say, in the risk zone, tried to move e.e. who had, let's say, certain reserves of funds tried to drive away from the war zone and western ukraine is actually the region that first started accepting forced migrants, er, we clearly observed this already at the beginning, say from the end of february, when in some places there were 3-4 clients per apartment and, let's say, there were even paradoxical situations that people without even looking, just to be safe, took the first best thing they could find, accordingly, this later
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caused an increase in housing rental prices and, let's say, in the future well, as we can already see from the plot er zakarpattia oblast it borders us, let's say, with the countries of europe, eh, it was the largest, let's say, in terms of security, from the point of view of some kind of military forces there, which were minimal, so people first of all went there, accordingly, sometimes the filling of zakarpattia oblast, let's say depletion of resources, and no longer there was simply an objective place where people could go on their turn. there were already neighboring regions, this is ivano-frankivsk, lviv, and in some places, in chernivtsi, how are you, the center, well, cherkasy, let's say when the military aggression began and let's say when it was kyiv is under attack. at first, there was a vision somewhere that it might not last long and everything would normalize, and let's say there were such attitudes that it would not last long
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and we would go to the nearest and neighboring region and, accordingly, cherkasy - in fact, they did not win due to the fact that they are in the neighboring region to the kyiv region, and according to our data, such a trend was observed not only in relation to the kyiv regions, people in the eastern regions were also active and are active in the idea of ​​primarily e-e, in the beginning, they also considered the neighboring oblasts such as dnipropetrovsk, zaporizhzhia, etc. because they thought that it would be short-lived, they thought that it would be for a certain short period, where we could, say, sit down and wait out all these hostilities, and then onward . who had the means, who had the funds, they actually left on the same day, those who, unfortunately, lacked funds somewhere, it was not there, er, from personal savings, they considered options for social housing , that is, free housing for displaced persons, well, and
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it is now the fourth month of the war, in fact the dynamics have not changed, and in transcarpathia the same plus 225% remains because well, many people have returned to kyiv and even to kharkiv there and to the dnipro and see you, well, the paradox right now is that if in the first during the months of the war , people from the central regions of ukraine and the eastern regions were actively leaving. now, especially in the central regions of ukraine, the situation has more or less normalized as far as it can be, and people are staying in the housing they rented in western ukraine. they are returning to their local ones, immigrants are coming, er, the location is no longer central ukraine, it’s er, let’s say closer to the eastern regions and, accordingly, the demand. now we are still observing that it is stable, that is, the only thing is that the price of formation in some regions is already, let’s say , starting to decrease if we are talking about housing rent, the question is simply that now, anyway, we
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feel and see that the shortage of housing for rent is still present. yesterday i talked with people and the first such case began. decided to sell everything there and move to a permanent place of residence here in the lviv region. that is, it is already a decision, well, it is so irreversible, you cannot say that it will be temporary there, then everything will turn around, but people have already made such a decision for themselves. and what about the real estate market in kyiv, let's see the plots and then we are telling you to rent an apartment in the capital now it is more affordable than ever mass migration from kyiv , job cuts and the threat of missile strikes on the city have collapsed the long-term real estate rental market, realtor hanna says that currently the prices remain approximately half as much as until february 24, if you take the poznyaki district. it is popular
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among tenants near the subway. a one-room apartment could be rented for 12,000 with a good repair . at the moment, the price is six and a half thousand hryvnias per month, well, accordingly, plus the communal service. however, the price is fixed at a much shorter term. if previously the lease agreement was concluded for a year or longer, now from several months to six months the offer is enough. however, in order to get a good option in time, you still need to hurry there are many offers, but the pops are also big. well, there is a situation when you show your apartment, you have five people who want to see, the first one takes four, the rest are waiting. next, there is demand from people who come to kyiv and there is demand from people who live in in kyiv, who want to improve their conditions because the price has decreased, they have the opportunity to pay, they are out of work, but why will they pay for a worse option for this money? they are looking for better options. at the same time,
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apartment owners do not make special demands on tenants and even now you can find cases when people are accepted either for a symbolic fee or only for the payment of utility services. before the war, i rented an apartment in kyiv, then when the war began. i came to my hometown in kropyvnytskyi after some time . the primary market that now the state simply buys apartments that are unfinished or almost completed or already completed from developers and in order for people who got rid of this property as a result of the war to walk and lost their property and since there is a certain corruption component , the developer simply sets the price higher than even before the war, and the state still agrees to buy these apartments even at an actually non-market price, since there is, i am sure that there is some corruption component. comment on this
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because of the fact that the state is now the main buyer of this information about the fact that the price is increasing compared to before the war, when you see this map, does anyone buy at all now, apart from the state, they really buy apartments like this. they also buy if we take western ukraine to for example, at the beginning of the war, all state registers were turned off for security purposes, to avoid undesirable consequences, and literally, for the last two weeks, these registers have been turned on accordingly. this gave such a signal to clients who were still somewhere before the war during after the war, they made an internal decision that they wanted to buy real estate . this gave them free rein to become more active in the search for real estate for purchase, and in principle, now western ukraine is the same as housing and rent, and the same trend that in connection with the fact that many people moved to western ukraine at the beginning of the war and some of them have already decided that they will stay here, if not forever, then
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for a longer period of time, many of them have decided that they are ready to invest in real estate in western ukraine and if we are talking about the primary market, in principle, for developers, then we can say in this way that the demand, whatever it is, is passive, but it was also observed during the war, there is simply a lot independent of active military operations, and the second moment from uh of the legislative component, because there are apartments that are already ready, where it was simply necessary technically to turn on the registers in order to be able to sell this real estate, and as a result, it is now in a state, well, a few weeks after the opening of these registers, we are observing such an increased demand, e.e., price dynamics, e.e. dynamics the price, if we are talking about the primary market, let's say the majority of developers left the price of formation at the same, let's say, positions that were before the war, because the
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number of these prices is in dollars or hryvnias. well, as a rule, the task represents in hryvnias because we are already the state of ukraine and any calculations are carried out with us, but i am a developer who is definitely tied to the dollar, and somewhere there was a comment that real estate prices have risen somewhat by 4-5 %, this is partly related to exchange rate differences, because the nbu exchange rate and the market exchange rate, and as a result of this, if we take the dollar as the equivalent, it mostly remained unchanged in the hryvnia, so we saw a significant well, not insignificant, but let's say a certain increase in prices just related to one of the reasons, but it is the market it is currently live, unfortunately it does not work in 100% of western ukraine if we are talking about buying and selling, but it has started and we can already see the trend that it will go at these dynamics, the market is going up up, and if
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god willing everything will continue like this in a few months, the market will be able to reach the capacities it had before the war . uh let's say that demand and supply will be normalized in our country, we will see that the market is really alive, many customers will buy real estate, and the state is not the only player on the market, which , let's say, will actively try to buy apartments for displaced people, and who else are private individuals themselves as an immigrant, someone somewhere had savings for the community savings and managed to leave in time to enter it. well, it is possible for them to use the budget of the community. well, it is necessary to see how we, uh, the state will develop programs because somewhere at the basic level now there are many programs in the development project for
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displaced people and they are simply not ready for implementation yet, how much corruption can there be, so let's add a person who will tell us about this experience from her own experience, she is now faced with the issue of renting housing, because in kyiv there is little demand there with children and dogs are taken. and in lviv, for example, it is very difficult to find someone with children and cats. we congratulate you. good day. ukraine needs you, or not all of ukraine. how did you struggle with renting housing? tell me your examples. well, this is already the second a-a situation for me, because i have been resettled for the second time and i faced this in the 15th year. problems and there is a difference in well, if you
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compare the essay the first stage of resettlement with the second is that now they treat the vpu less aggressively, first we were resettled in general, you about it was something like oh well oh how so categorically like zek eh yes yes yes but in the first movement it was at all a categorical refusal, now the displaced people are taken, but the only thing is, of course, as you said, there are additional moments like animals, children or something categorically well, it is already like a-a it becomes a minus, it requires additional or funds to be involved or some kind of insurance contributions, like children or animals or something they will damage it or something else. and about the demand or the price. well, here is the moment, because when kyiv began to move, that is, from february, of course, the west of ukraine increased the
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prices, and very meaningfully, they started at the usual price of khrushchev 20-30 thousand and people also hired for such prices, etc. well, if you compare even with europe , then the estimates were even more european, that is, they were written in euros, they were written in dollars. for example, one thousand euros or 1.5 thousand dollars. that is, even on olx, and these prices were written in currency. it was very unusual and well, i think that in principle it was used for their enrichment by individual people who at that moment had housing or even a legal entity that rented out this is also for housing. he will help you and us
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well, i'm in uzhhorod, i found an apartment, but it's not the best option because, let's say, according to the price policy, it doesn't meet the conditions that sama sama is the apartment that you represent. the price in the west of ukraine because kyiv began to move back and the residents of kyiv immediately felt that there was more or less. but again, the number of apartments does not correspond only to the number of emigrants who came and therefore everything is still very high demand because now come from donetska, luhansk, well, zaporizhzhia , kherson, in part, that is, the influx is still just smaller. well, it has less financial capacity,
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and the price has already started to decrease on the market. and why did you go to transcarpathia, where the statistics showed the highest growth there? the price increase was plus 225 % a-a to be honest, i tried in general the prices in transcarpathia there were quite, well, at a sufficiently high level, and well, i just know from my own person that my family moved partially to montenegro and it turned out yesterday that the price in montenegro is cheaper than in transcarpathia was leased a--and here is a psychological moment. of course, the further you are from the western border, the calmer it is. the difference between the central parts of ukraine and the west, that is, it is possible. these are precisely the factors that
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shape the price. and why me? well, i have an acquaintance here, that's why i was invited, mr. mykolay, as a state, you have documents. this psychological connection disappears, it's just me. i think you have finished, ms. you finished my opinion, i want to say yes, well, in poland, they are now canceling these benefits for those who provide ukrainians with housing in our country, too, for communal services, it seems that there were some benefits, benefits for people, somehow the state still regulates, tries to regulate so that there are no such gray schemes when they go there from lviv in poland, but here they rent a house for three roads. well, it also distorts everything, in principle, in the beginning, the state did not have time to simply intervene and directly regulate some pricing, especially in western ukraine , because at the beginning of military aggression, the first thing the goal was a security issue, and accordingly
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, a lot was done and barriers were removed so that those who wanted could go abroad, those who could not go abroad could find a prefect in western ukraine, and some time recently they actually started trying to settle, let's say, the issue real estate not only in western ukraine, and in principle in ukraine as a whole, and there were indeed many benefits granted, especially to persons with internal displacement, as well as to owners of real estate who were ready to shelter free of charge on the basis of internally displaced internally displaced persons in wages that partially covered utility costs and gave some certain uh financial payments uh now let's put it this way, the state began to go further in that direction - we already have precedents in lviv, especially regarding the construction of modular the town also has many precedents where the state has carried out the reconstruction
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of objects that until recently were not, let's say , properly ready for habitation. now the state is trying to reconstruct and provide such objects them for free housing for displaced persons but still, the number of displaced persons in nato is large, and therefore, as there was a valid comment somewhere, it was said earlier that the number of apartments and the number of people who want to find them for rent is not comparable to that of independence now the situation we are really observing is high, quite high today, uh, the demand for rent. therefore, it does not matter whether people from kyiv will leave the kyiv regions now, you will return home in their place, other immigrants will always come and unfortunately so far, this is a permanent trend towards these modular houses, is it necessary to build temporarily? is it better to wait and build a solved problem? there seems to be 30% of the cost of capital construction, well
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, modular houses. this is most likely a temporary phenomenon, because somewhere in the state, it is necessary to urgently solve the question of how to strengthen people, and this is the easiest solution at this stage, but in the future, the construction and construction of large residential complexes is definitely possible by attracting private capital and private construction companies companies, let's say it's much easier and much better can solve the situation simply, unfortunately , i emphasize once again that we are still living in a state of war and no one has canceled the issue of security and starting to build. unfortunately, we cannot be 100% sure that this or that area is not it will be uh, let's say safe from uh, the task of missile strikes uh, that's why at this stage, uh, what we can do, uh, and what the state can do, it does in the future, everything will depend very much on the situation at the front i just when i see seven modular
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houses, i immediately think what will be there when winter comes and when it will be minus 20, for example at night, and how will people live there liliya, i am asking from the dnipropetrovsk region, zaporizhia, well, from kharkiv, i don’t know what it will be now, modular, that is, at the first resettlement , they were there, by the way, i i was engaged in counseling at the vpu and went to these modular ones. and i asked people if they wanted to live in a modular one or if there was, for example, the possibility of moving to a dormitory, so the strange thing is that people perceive the module the best . and by the way, they didn’t want to move into the dormitories they are fine in the winter and can be heated if there are appropriate technical aspects, there are air conditioners , heating and the like. why was the modular one more interesting to them, because it was still separate in the dormitories
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, it was morally more difficult for them, so i think that yes, the modular one is not very good, but it is also at the moment it is very good because it is mobile, i.e. there is a situation where it was taken and moved to another area, there is another situation where it was removed and brought to another area . that is, it is e for installation and it takes several days there and it is very easy to move, so i think that ah, if you take the practice of previous resettlement - this module has the right to exist , well, people confirm it themselves, but in transcarpathia , i understand that modular towns, well, at least according to the media, there are no monitors, so in belgorodka, we showed it, well, it is interesting, quite important, we in general , in this country, it is possible that this will change our attitude towards housing. because we are ukrainians, we need to buy an apartment or a house there. and there are people
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in the country where they rent housing all their lives . wheels have now moved further or back, mykola, it is possible that the philosophy and culture of real estate will change in general, we can already see, we are observing the situation when we say that many people, especially internally displaced people, have already lowered their standards and put the security issue first, and therefore, let's say in the future, when the big construction will continue to be rebuilt, i think the emphasis will be on simpler housing, more like that, well, let's say social class, or more simply, not business class , because people have already understood that at this stage, safety is above all and many moments you can just close your eyes and modular towns and let's say that uh, it's also not bad for people who really don't have a
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place to live for them, it's also a good way out of the situation, but that doesn't mean that if no one gave them - instead of modular towns, ambassadors in a dormitory, they said no, we didn’t seem to agree either, it’s just that somewhere we now see that the state is taking the first steps. well, not the first steps, but such active steps to resettle all the people who need housing as much as possible, and somewhere we see what is in the future in dynamo, the state has big plans to attract a lot of capital in a very short time.

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