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sergey, you mentioned that the occupiers still do not release people from the territory they control, but the zaporizhia regional military administration is our official. yes, it also did not release people there for a certain period of time in the temporarily occupied territory , now allegedly. yesterday there was a message that the corresponding restriction had already been canceled. please tell me whether nowadays, people leave precisely in the occupied territory, and is it too dangerous for them, or are there many willing to leave, and there are several categories of people leaving, but first of all, no they released it because there was no er, they rearranged the release procedure now. it was done, and there they created an electronic form to fill in, for control, for accounting, which, well, it is necessary for security reasons. first of all, they release and release first of all those who bring food to that territory e help , etc., we understand that these are not only volunteer cargoes - they are cargoes that are purchased for certain money
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, funds, etc., but people need to live somehow, they need something, er, something to eat, and that's why they de facto drive them to zaporizhzhia for food, and does such a thing already exist? then a business or a type of activity when several families get together and send someone to zaporizhzhia to buy products for everyone, because there are products in those territories, but the prices for them are very high. they reported that sausages cost uah 600 and sausages cost uah 500. that is this is the level of valuable occupied territories, and that is why people are looking for opportunities to buy cheaper if possible , at the same time, human labor in the occupied territories costs almost nothing, for example in the kamianka-dnieper region, where it has always been very a lot of cucumbers, tomatoes, etc., now cucumbers are sold for uah 7 and no one takes them because there is no system for buying them for that price. and
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we all know why they are sold in stores in our country. and this is another harm that made the war there, people cannot sell it. people can’t buy here, so see p. sergey. then two questions arise. one small clarifying thing from your words is that, after all , in the city of zaporizhzhia, in its unoccupied territories, there is no shortage of food and medicine. if people from the occupied areas travel and buy, then everything is there. more or less water electricity, medicine, food, drink, gasoline, i don't know about gasoline , there is no good news anywhere in ukraine, this is one question, and another. there are already there. you feel the presence of western weapons, because this is the hottest, hottest topic, so that if everyone is waiting, the whole of ukraine and the whole of europe and the whole world is waiting for when the weapon will finally arrive,
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well, as for the state of the products, yes, in the stores, we are more or less provided with products . what a wide range of fungus they are in stores and they are marked with cheaper prices than those in the occupied territories, i will not say that they are cheap, but they are cheaper. and this is, first of all, about western weapons, and well, we can only guess where they are and how they are located, but when a few days ago in zaporizhzhia, more i can hear more, well, i can hear explosions from the exits. as they say, a small commotion began, people began to think that the enemy was advancing, and ours left, and now we can hear the exits well, but the military officially and unofficially began to explain that it was more
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long-range weapons therefore mean artillerymen at a safer distance so that it is harder to detect them and therefore they are closer to zaporizhzhia, but they hit. these are the same long-range targets, so don't worry, well, listen to the good news, mr. sergey , we all like it very, very much, we love such news on more often we have someone else can we talk for now it was serhiy lyshenko deputy of the zaporizhia regional council the volunteer informed us and finished with good news we will come there take care and good luck there is no next speaker we can talk to you as always, our terevniki is the most important thing in general . people like it when someone on the air behaves like in the soviet union in the kitchen, that's how they are without responsibility. i'm drinking tea. let's drink to the
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ukrainian weapons and to the victory of our defenders. so, what are we going to talk about? once summed up the 100 days of the war, well, you know. everyone thought it was necessary to post somewhere on the social network , or officially, some information about the losses we have or simply express your thoughts and experiences, how did you feel these hundred days how your mood was changing, maybe you were thinking about how everything would end. well, for the first three days i had the same thoughts as the british intelligence and the american intelligence that everything would disappear and i even strongly suspect the optimists and they say we knew immediately, we saw here immediately the ukrainian army is strong. i don't believe it. there were such people. or maybe they were young people, because, for example, we were in kyiv for the first three weeks. they
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saw, felt, and heard all this. my daughter was absolutely convinced that the ukrainian army would endure and nothing will happen and i was absolutely convinced i was just delusional, i imagined my street and a russian tank with the ukrainian tricolor stopped in the middle of the street and so on. and i even told my wife that people lived under occupation , what are you going to do? i don't really believe old people or those more or less old people who say no, we knew right away because if you are on all channels for 50 years in a row, and we have only been in russian since the 14th year, they showed the power of the russian army, imagine what someone like that was well, what an expert super, who really understood that i had some doubts about her strength, because i always show my phone. give me your phone, please, when the russians say we are a strong army. and when i say something like that,
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show me one more time. you don't need any missiles, because a missile you don’t fly without one, if you do n’t have one, then you don’t have any reliable rocket either . so i had such small doubts about the power of the soviet russian army council, the same thing, but still, i was convinced, after about two weeks, i began to think that the russians should not leave and i didn't believe in myself where to shoot three, four, i didn't believe in myself, then three weeks later i went to lviv and when i got to lviv and looked around half of ukraine, i saw how many anti-aircraft guns, how many in villages , how many in small towns, how many and how many friendly people, how many smiles you know, it is absolutely clear and unity here that i had the idea that the army is probably not that strong. and
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maybe our army is not weaker, if not stronger. well, now if this second thesis wins the first thesis of the first day, well , now we will ask the same thing it was andrii teteruk, ato veteran, people's deputy of the eighth convocation, congratulations mr. andrii, glory to ukraine, you must have been sure right away that ukraine would win, regardless of any circumstances there, and the russian so-called military allegedly tried to demonstrate all the strength and skill even though you wouldn't call them that to grow, well, it is absolutely true, and in the 14th year, when this damn war of russia against our country began, i had no doubt that uh, we should not waste time on negotiations, we should take up the weapons of the occupier who came here to rule. in his opinion, it was necessary to destroy and until we complete this noble mission of protecting our country,
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there can be no talks about any negotiations. these are very obvious things already for the majority of those who rejected such thoughts from the 14th to the 22nd and year, mr. andriy, and you, as far as i remember, are a military man, then i have a question: is it not dangerous when the majority , the vast majority, of ukrainians say such words as you say to such people, more than 90 percent that victory will definitely happen, it does not cool it down, it does not does, you know, what in russian is called hat zakydatelstvo, i always worry a little bit when i hear that, because victory is not, it is not, as it were, it is far away , it is not, not tomorrow, not the day after tomorrow, not in a month, not in two. this is a long, persistent, strong struggle of all in the rear at the front , understanding about losses, understanding about failures, and
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maintaining optimism despite failure. that is, it is such a job that you advise, uh, it is better to say that we will win. or is it better to say that there is a great, difficult, and deadly work ahead, exactly mutually exclusive things which you have just er voiced because we will really reach our victory through the most terrible and exhausting trials in recent years, even in the last there can take a short story of 100 years and without such a motivator that all our efforts er hm will lead to our victory well actually er it's like the right to choose what our future will be, that's why we've been making such titanic efforts since the 14th year to knock the enemy out of
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our territory and come out victorious in this confrontation, sorry for any altruism, this is pure pragmatism on the verge of survival, because the russians who were brought here, i will remind those who are trying to understand the russian peace, they brought mobile phones here to the crematorium in order to simply finish off ukrainians who were able to put up at least some resistance to the occupation authorities, they were ready to exterminate as they did in the past century because of repression by the ukrainian intelligentsia, the world of the ukrainian nation, so that ukraine does not have signs of ukrainian in everything, in the culture, in the language, in the manifestations of our daily activities, this is all that annoyed the kremlin in the last century and the past for hundreds of years now, putin and all those russians who come under his orders to kill ukrainians are just as annoying, so we have no other option
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than to defend ourselves, prepare to defend as much as is necessary for our victory to go through these tests, and the most important thing is not to lose our victory due to cooling off. here i agree with you here, i also have very big fears, no doubts, but the fear is that we do not give our victory to another populist and lose the potential that we we must have for the development of our country, damn our future. that is, the country in which we want to live. not only are our children and our grandchildren lovely, mr. andrii, then there is one more question, and many experts say that in june, the state that has already arrived will become again. still cautious, it can become a turning point in some months and you can expect or hope or believe that during june there will be an
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operational pause or maybe counter offensive actions of the ukrainian army so that you say as a military as a military man yes a military man understands that every day of the confrontation between the two sides is filled with certain uncertainties and who solves this uncertainty in what way, and therefore comes the military success that the military always dreams of, but we must understand that the advantage is on our side, uh, regarding what issues we defend our land is first and second. we have very powerful allies who help us, this is second and third, we are now in a national liberation struggle that concerns not only the armed forces of ukraine, but when i was rightly said at the beginning of the new inclusion that this concerns all ukrainians who do not care about our future, these three factors are dominant in the understanding of how all
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tactical battles will be resolved, because strategically we have already exposed, we have entered the stage of fighting for our future and are ready to fight further the russian federation is currently hanging. during this war, it has practically no allies, and more than that , sanctions are imposed on it. and this gives us reason to understand that every next day can be, uh, you know , the key to whether the russian federation will be able to to continue this aggression against our country , even if i am on the front line or even inside the russian federation, may lead to the inability to continue such aggression and to the onset of such a parliamentary moment where we will really move to, let's say, on a certain part of the front, from defensive to contour offensive or offensive operations and free our territory from the last occupying soldier and move to a post-military settlement
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with the russian federation, which i hope it will not last long after such a defeat, mr. andrii, now the most fiercely are donetsk and luhansk regions, and please tell me how you see the progress of the war there, because the forecasts of british intelligence are not very encouraging regarding luhansk region directly, and they also report that the advantage of the russians there is due to with an air strike and a heavy artillery strike to us. well, with aviation, we know that this is quite a weak spot , uh, ours, but certain artillery installations are handed over to us and even jet systems there are promised long-range salvo fire to be provided when all this is not effective and has some already arrived, you understand when this will change, this turning point will be in our favor, when i worked in the committee on security and defense, we focused on the fact that our outdated
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soviet weapons, which we had in the troops as soon as possible or updated or through the import substitution program got rid of dependence on russian components, these are very important things that affect the quality of the introduction of hostilities. a multiple advantage in armaments and the supply of e-e cartridges in the area of ​​hostilities, this really gives the opportunity to concentrate their troops and groups, and i will give credit to them enough e-e competently. at this stage, they use all the necessary military components in order to achieve the e- e tasks. that is, escort through the air e-e very high-quality training e-e advanced units by fire ar and the most important thing was that they taught me to provide logistical e-e escort of these progenitor units
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, that is, they drew conclusions from the first failed stage of attempts to seize ukraine and now, having done this work by mistake, is trying to win certain situations on the battlefield, this can be changed at the moment when ukraine will be able to put trained personnel there motivation, we have already said that it is enough for us not to occupy and the ukrainian military pass the towers extremely quickly, i can say this from my own experience because i have now driven several lion centers with this to my subordinates, where we have mastered modern equipment the counter-poison of manpads stinger or the old soviet igla or modern anti-tank missile systems like javelin, so even if we have them there, for example, we had them 10 days ago, they passed such programs in three
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days, because the guys are extremely motivated and learn very quickly, all this significantly improves the capabilities of our military to e-e, first restraining this aggression and then transitioning to contour offensive or offensive actions, and i hope that all these advantages that the russian federation now has in concentrating troops will be neutralized by professional e-e equipment which we will now get by the professional destruction of these groups of russian troops that are on our territory. well, if there is none, let’s give it. thanks to andrii, such a hand was visiting us. a veteran of the ato , a people’s deputy of the previous convocation, an apt member of the verkhovna rada committee, just in time for national security and defense. thank you again times well, while we are waiting for sad news. by the way, news from mariupol, we can have a product, we talked about something, i already forgot, yes, we talked about 100 days of war, so they
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agreed. transnistria is behind belarus. i want to understand how russia's actions can be there. by the way, i don't really believe in the possibility of an attack from those countries, and because i don't think mr. lukashenko understands, he doesn't understand that weapons can be turned against him. because it will definitely be an unpopular war in belarus, and i myself once took part in the journalistic war in transnistria, and when i see that there are five to five thousand russian soldiers there, i don't see why the russians would use them - it's like you know how an insect an insect will bite it is nothing especially after a hundred days when the ukrainian military had already learned to fight absolutely accurately, and they never fought and
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brought thousands for six months, but even you know, i will tell you that wars are cynical, but i even sometimes think that if they attacked from belarus, it would weaken the entire front russian, belarusian, because it can be a loss of people, which is a shame. and it’s terrible, but from a strategic point of view, even in march, it still seemed to me that if they would, because you can immediately see the weak flank when russia goes, they are completely and generally the world’s military science. about this he says that if the flank or some place on the front is weak and the belarusians have definitely never fought. they are definitely weak, then it is very beneficial for those who fight against them, because you immediately know where you direct your blow and you know exactly what you are there you win there, you surround something further serhiy orlov is the deputy mayor of mariupol with us i hope for a connection p serhii good health, we
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talk here all the time when we talk with the people of mariupol about war crimes and my main question is do you know when the war will end and start to find out these war crimes, what are the occupiers doing? and then the question arises as to how to record these crimes. is the power of knowledge and understanding enough ? ukrainians, they are interested, they definitely take it upon themselves to talk about the crimes of us beautiful russians, but in fact, it's all a lie, and what kind of judge can really think about themselves, ukrainians say about themselves that
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they are victims, they victimized their people they killed what i think from this period. well, first of all, i understand that this is not one case, but there are thousands or tens of thousands of cases. in what way will they be united or will they go separately? this is of course a big question. the war has already been going on for 100 days, of course. during this time, a lot of russian crimes have accumulated, and we, as the city council, are doing the most to fix these crimes. that is, we are currently assessing all the damage and destruction, and we have already completed this assessment. of course, it is physically difficult to get there . to the city, but there is enough evidence, photos , video materials and others that allow us to do this, and we know that regarding crimes regarding the destruction
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of objects, regarding the destruction of schools, kindergartens , hospitals, we have enough information, it is fortunate that we have satellite images and they are of high quality and it also makes it possible to dynamically track those crimes that can be directly connected with the offensives of the russian occupation army, etc. of course, the worst thing is that we are unlikely to find out objective facts about the number of dead with you. and that is according to our assessment as a city government, we have from 25 to 40 thousand dead, unfortunately
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. are you in the kyiv region, when is there an exhumation, when are people being investigated, the term and how did the person die? and you and i already have four such places of mass burials, and they are around mariupol, and we have traces of satellite disappearances in the dynamics. that is, we understand that here, there, for example, in bankusha 5,000 people are buried without identification in vynohradny 4,000 in old crimea 3,000 and we understand that this is what the occupation authorities did this is visible from day to day and i am sure that the hard painstaking work of investigators e-e evidence photos videos satellite images this will be a good good basis to to press
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charges there but no matter how defiant it sounds now, those people are at least buried, but now this is what the rashists are doing, they are simply demolishing houses where there are obviously bodies of the dead, and together with all this construction debris, they are taking away the bodies of people who were killed they were and they just end up in a landfill. i don't know how we will understand who is missing, because people from mariupol are taken there, as well as from other occupied territories, to some disadvantaged regions of the russian federation. well, i'll add to this question. sorry for example, this is a terrible war crime, it is also a crime against the drama theater, you and i saw who dismantled the rubble, not even
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the ministry of emergencies of the so-called dpr was involved, the people of mariupol were not involved , it was the ministry of emergencies of russia, i.e. bearing in mind and understanding this terrible military crime, even the avengers from russia came to trace all the plans, nothing else except the painstaking work of experts, and even excuse me, even the smallest ones, and what kind of traces about people, well, unfortunately, there will be no other evidence, who analyzed the evidence and searches even later in landfills, identification thanks to dna, well , you and i will not come up with anything else, mr. serhiy , this is another question of sacrifices. when the war had not yet started and there were talks about the fact that it might start, we talked about the great partisan movement we don't hear anything from either luhansk region or donetsk region
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about the partisan movement, maybe it's not worth talking about, maybe it's some kind of secret, maybe we'll reveal some kind of secret, which we wouldn't want to do, but there are some partisans there in the occupied territory , there in the districts, maybe mariupol, in some they are others - do you feel the presence of partisan units , or is ukraine really not using this force yet? well, let's talk about mariupol, because it is unlikely that i will be able to talk about other territories , look, you need to understand the situation in mariupol the situation in mariupol is like that before the war. it was a place of half a million people. currently, we have, according to our estimates, about 150,000 and about 30,000 mariupol residents. the surrounding villages are also occupied by
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temporary russia. they lived in basements for 40-50 days, these people are exhausted. well, of course, they are exhausted without food, without water, and at the moment their moral feelings, how we communicate with them, are very difficult, that is, people do not plan anything. is limited only today and tomorrow so 4-5 hours each of them prepare food on bonfires there is no electricity, no water, no sewage, no natural gas, that is, in this situation, well, sorry, it is difficult to demand or expect from people who have been there for 40 days from the basement that he will become a partisan there, let's be honest to say this , first of all, secondly, what we know and communicate with
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people, at least 80% expect the return of the ukrainian authorities, that is, everyone there or four out of five ask and when you return, we are waiting for you, of course, return because it is important 30 seconds step about the traitors, what can you tell me, the head of the national police recently announced that all the traitors were released. all those who were not there did not come to the locations of the specific agreement of deployment. communal institutions, let me finish, but i am sure that when the poster goes up and the ukrainian army is released from mariupol, we will still see this partisan movement on the territory of mariupol as well as in the kherson region

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