kyiv journalists can say that because she is a journalist, i suggest skabeeva 's second magazine, you always know her favorite word a-ah, import substitution, yes, they have it possible to import substitution, it's very cool what skabeeva says there, because she was told, and maybe she really believes that that she is not engaged in real business, it is in the summer, the higher political leadership sets tasks , that is, but again, they are not engaged in real business, let's go down to the level of a-a manufacturers. they even have their own automobile production, and avtovaz stopped there in the first months of the sanctions, that is, it stood there for more than a month because there were no parts there, because their company, well, renault used to own the auto repair shop, that is, they were part of this group, and a lot of parts were supplied from all over the world. well, because, well, it is arranged that way the production of it, that is, international

cooperation, and chips, and other microcircuits, it’s just where to get it. that is, they are trying to use siri to import it, it’s all to organize it, not just because, once again, we need control over the implementation of these sanctions, we will do it, and they will not be able to avoid those sanctions so easily. by the way, they studied during 14-15 years, when sanctions were introduced, well , during the first phase, or before the first active phases of the war, well, in that period of time ago, or the same cabin or kamaz, that is, they are exhibited from abroad, their tank production has stopped because a lot of parts are also abroad, and so you can go along all the chains, that is, because today, i repeat once again, the russian economy in the last 20 years has been intertwined with cleaning in of international cooperation and now she just needs to turn to us, she is facing new challenges and those new challenges are simply a road to nowhere, a road back, they will fall, well

, i repeat once again, 12 is without this sixth package of sanctions. i think that it can the central bank predicts -20% inflation this year. some experts say that there will be no foreign exchange market. although they can not buy dollars. although they cannot settle or transfer the dollar there for border, they forbade international investors who invested their time in shares or bonds or in some other assets of the russian federation, and let me remind our viewers that this is about three trillion rubles, they forbade the withdrawal of these funds, they were simply told that you cannot you have the right to sell your assets, that is, well, in this way, uh, well, let's say so. well, i think that this is a wrong decision, and they stole the planes, that is, which were leased there by international companies. by the way, i read that yesterday they found forces there already they arrested the first plane of the aeroflot company

, that is, it will continue like that, that is, because it is not their property and so many other things. maybe they are already in the form of economists. the deputy chairman of the board of the national bank of ukraine said a lot of nice things about russia and not so nice things about ukraine , and what are you going to do? there is a war, there is no war, there is nothing else that will be difficult, including economically. next, we will talk about what our children are. unfortunately, the russian bastards are killing and continue to kill, and today is just an international the fourth of june is the international day without innocent children victims of aggression since last year in ukraine, it is a day to honor the memory of children who died directly as a result of russian aggression, the national museum of the history of ukraine in the second world war today in the capital presented a multimedia project children under the vault of the moscow gate, a martyrology of the children of

the dead was created in the period of the full-scale russian-ukrainian war, according to the general prosecutor's office, as of yesterday , 261 children were killed and 463 were injured at the hands of rebels in ukraine today at least one child died in the luhansk region during the russian shelling of the mountainous city and this one. we still don't know how many children died in mariupol, because there are from 22 to 45 dead alcoholics. unfortunately, there are also children in contact with us daria kasyanova, head of the board of the ukrainian network for children's rights, the national director for program development, the children's town of ukraine will approach you, but in principle, during a war, imagine if the enemy behaves like a coward, then no power in the world will be able to save the children if the enemy throws a bomb at the children's

kindergarten, there is no umbrella of some kind in that kindergarten that will not allow this bomb to fall and kill people, among whom there will be children, that is, in fact, i would say a request to the barbarians not to throw bombs at children and there is nothing more humanity can do. i mean not ukraine, but humanity as a whole, is it possible that somewhere there is a recipe for humanity what to do in such a case unfortunately, the war in ukraine has been going on for 8 hours, and since 2014, the only universal recipe that was available was a preventive measure upon export children from those territories where it was dangerous . i don't know the other options. unfortunately, we know that

even the shelter does not save, and a long stay in these shelters does not save, and examples there and mariupol , and examples there points in which children die daily, i didn't want to ask about it so that they wouldn't think that i wanted to criticize the government during the war, but you yourself simply led me to this question . in dutch it seems to the publication that he knew about the beginning of a full-scale invasion of the russian federation for a year, a month, a year, and i immediately thought about the children here. and why couldn't the orphanage take children deprived of parental care, at least to other territories that are not border with the aggressor country to western ukraine or allow their departure

abroad, for example, we are a ukrainian network of child adoptions that on december 24 last year wrote a letter to all responsible persons of ukraine where we they asked to create a national headquarters that would coordinate an urgent evacuation ah, well, unfortunately , during the month, we did not receive a single answer, and hmm. how did you say i am the program director of this children's town of ukraine for my children? well, i am talking about family-type orphanages, foster families we took them out 10 days before the start of the war. at the beginning , they took me to the lviv region, and already on february 24-25, we took them to poland. started a full-scale war, uh, we were

already contacted by representatives of the authorities, they asked about it. that's one more lesson for us, uh, uh, another lesson that hasn't been learned, uh, for 8 years, well, i'll just say that in 2014, i was responsible for the evacuation of children from donetsk and the luhansk region, we took out children from boarding institutions, we took out foster families of the dbsm multi-child families families where there were children from severely disabled children in special a-a boarding schools and we did it then uh-uh well, of course, we started with the slavic during the period of serious hostilities, and then we took preventive measures to all the territories where it could start a-ah well, military actions could begin ah, in

principle, such serious eh losses. yes, at that time, they didn’t want to. it was always a high risk, eh, and for these 8 years, that’s important. unfortunately, no one needed this experience, and no one ever asked me how we did it. how we organized it, yes. now, er, starting from february 24, i am part of the national headquarters, and i understand that there was a threat that was not fully assessed, and actually, now, we are investigating what happened . unfortunately, this is a lesson that we will not learn , mr. kasyanov look, maybe the last question, we have literally two more minutes. but you personally already have algorithms for actions in crisis situations to save children, i understand correctly, that is, if i were the minister of social protection .

that they should deal with it and i would be the minister and i would call you and ask you what to do next, then you would bring me some documents, the first step is written - this is the second step - this is yes, this is the fourth step - this is also the fifth step, we saved the children , the algorithm was the moment until the territories were occupied, even during the period of acute hostilities, until the territories were occupied, the children were taken away, there was a bridge, that's further. yes, and we have been through many such cases since february 24th, the loss of which we are still afraid of not even guessing is related to this. another very short question, but an important one. i think you said that some children were taken to poland

. i personally know funds abroad that now want to take them for education not immediately for adoption, but for education specifically in their boarding schools, for example, in switzerland, there are our children deprived of parental care, but they cannot do this due to legislation ukraine, are there really any ways 4,000 children were taken abroad, including to switzerland, and there is the kramatorsk center for social psychological rehabilitation, etc. - with its government, the government should provide a guarantee under what conditions these children are accepted, so if there are such proposals, the national social service service processes them and the children leave for border, thank you very much for the coverage of this issue, next kasyanova, the head of the board of the ukrainian network for children's rights, the national

director of the development of programs of the children's town of ukraine, was with us as a communication channel. questions about angelica of the season will be what is it like to write your questions on our official facebook page under the post you are currently seeing while you are writing questions i i suggest, you know, i like to discuss scandals . and we had a scandal this week, a russian journalist and a tv presenter, now he is such an oppositionist, oleksandr nevzorov was given ukrainian citizenship, he himself told him and his wife about this yesterday, it was not mr. mykola . such a betrayal spread naturally through social networks, someone called this spanish

a shame. someone wrote about the fact that they don't give my friend eh, and he fought there and in the anti-terrorist operation, and in general, he is a ukrainian serviceman, but hmm without ukrainian citizenship someone writes nevzoro at the draft age, let him go and defend ukraine, what do you think, maybe first let's not talk about nevzorov personally. immediately give him ukrainian citizenship, well, look, first of all, i once again praised myself when you read the question that i do n't have social networks, that i'm not there because i would spoil my mood, because i generally i don't think it's necessary to discuss, well, some

people gave poison to one person - why didn't they give poison to others? i can explain very easily what we are, or we should immediately have some ministry or cabinet or the president's administration come up with it, if tomorrow 10,000 such people show up what are we we all do this, this is the same burden on the social sphere during the war. and everyone else will go according to the procedure. well , this is the question that i always ask. and i do not rule out that the moment will come when tens of thousands, if not hundreds, of russians will want ukrainian citizenship if there is a smell of roasting there, then moscow and the moscow region will want you here and will say i am not like that, i am waiting for a tram and give us citizenship we do not want war, we have always opposed war and this is one case with which i cannot do anything conclusion, well , the president said something to someone, i listen out of

sight from time to time, i know how he behaves, what he says, i know what he was like in the 90s, he was just absolutely fascist, uh, he seems to me to be a staff member will vlad and i play in lithuania? i don't remember the problem, you know, i wanted to give just this example because the lithuanians recently collected 6 million euros for ukraine. in order to buy a byraktar in turkey and transfer it to us, it is not from the country's budget, but every lithuanian, as a benefactor, contributed funds in order to to do this and here we uh, uh, uh, uh, well, we use an ugly word, zapadlolu, and they are a war criminal, and we have a citizen of ukraine to like them, which is only 10 rubles, as they said in the soviet union, everyone likes them, a person cannot spend his whole life only jesus lived his life so that we can see that there were no mistakes, and all the rest have mistakes, some have more , some have less, and therefore remember that 20 7 years

ago, someone did something. now he is always he is one of the few people. i was a fascist, i confess i am ashamed everything but lithuanians what should we finish everything now we will exist we will call lithuania on every issue but vilnius and it is possible to get some some some there yes it will never be that is he was like that and now he is different you know i also developed windows when i was a child playing football so let's go i will be fired from espresso tv because i violated them, you were a good child, weren't you? no, i was already such a teenager, that is, i should have been boiling in my head . and you know, if you break something here, then the management may have to make some decisions , so i don't understand in principle if the content of the discussion about which you are telling me what they are

shouting against is good and bad. listen, well, this is one person , here you are. now you see on the screen this person mocking poor russians and all russians as a nation. i haven't talked about putin for years. for at least the last 4-5 years, i have been listening to you there for a month, or maybe for two weeks, and i just know what he says, and i have new complaints about his jokes, about some of his discoveries in his logic, and someone liked him and he was granted citizenship as i was the president, i can also give an oak tree. maybe it is necessary for fifa. i don’t know it as information propaganda, so in a good station . we need

forget about the existence of russians, we have our own affairs, our problems, it's called war, that's right, a russian is already a citizen of ukraine, how can we forget there are many such people, i wish there were many such people, but the state could definitely present itself, is there an opportunity to grant ukrainian citizenship en masse to the russians who sit at the front, this is important maybe there isn't, maybe there isn't, but maybe there is. i know who is fighting for ukraine, you and i are talking like this, this is russia, but i am absolutely convinced that the million people who listen to their visions are golden. russia has a reserve of understanding, if the russians are ever forgiven, which i am absolutely not convinced of. well, maybe in 10 or 20 or 30 years, thanks to those people who listen every day, and i looked. today, 1.5 million people listen to him somewhere, so these are people who

at least listen to a sober opinion maybe they are listening, maybe they won't listen to her well, we have a war with russia, that's why i just can't understand on my own , i wouldn't start shouting oh bad or oh good listen, well, someone didn't give citizenship to someone, let's forget about the war let's start saying no gap when we were talking like that when saakashvili someone someone didn't know the citizens saakashvili, god bless you, they gave me a sight god bless the military and what you said, i remembered a story like that, we are not espresso, then the story was made about this guy by military personnel now i can't think anymore, i can't remember his name, he already fought on the side of the armed forces of ukraine for several years, he himself had russian citizenship, but he was originally from ukraine, when the war began, he moved from russia in the 14th year immediately to the territory of ukraine and went to fight against the russians, and he was not granted

citizenship for several years, and this story, as far as i remember , ended normally. but it was a real horror because it creates a lot of complications, so the issue needs two million, it can be solved , there is simply no. and there is serhii loiko, who wrote wonderful books about ukraine, who worked for many years , e.e. los angeles times, who works, a russian who joined the teroboron got dressed and left, and he does not require any ukrainian citizenship, he says i will atone with a russian passport, there was a shock when he came with a russian passport, uh, to get weapons, then heart attacks started everywhere, he says no, i want to fight for ukraine against russia and he doesn't ask for a ukrainian passport, there are people who don't ask , there are people who ask and don't get it at all, i want to tell you i think that this discovery will be for all our viewers, the world of anya and gentlemen is unfair. oh

, this is what you are saying to me. it seems to me that you want to work psychologically. they are ukrainians. oh , this is a disaster. what to do? i say. well, listen, we are now during the war. points from the side of the russians, what to do because i don’t voice their questions, but by the way, it’s on the topic of an unusual topic, why was the oat girl released to odesa ? biography and she recently, do you remember a few months ago, when the war started, she only came out when she was reading the news on her tv channel, she came out with a poster no war, after that she was released and then she was taken to work in berlin it doesn't seem so, mr. milk, and now she was allowed in odessa, she wrote a post, works on instagram, it seems and about what is happening now

in odessa, well, really, the postaki is good for us, because she told the truth to the russians, including her native odessa, met me in empty it is forbidden to swim in hotels and mined beaches russian warships are constantly shelling the city from the sea one rocket kissed the coastal hotel another high-rise building was killed at 8:10 a baby among them well and so on and so on mr. mykola how come marina ovsyannikova she is from odessa, by the way, they let us in until now, dear viewers and listeners, we will be categorical with you that there is no europe, no normal civilized country. we will not build everything categorically, it is like fascism or communism, so everyone must vote all 40 million uah. i am against ovsyanikova going to odessa, and the second and i'm for well, what an absurdity we have democracy democracy means pluralism yes

angelika sezonka thinks that she likes the color blue and i'm white that now someone between the two of us should be shot and banned from appearing on the air at all by the way, we are still red and someone is shooting us, someone is shooting us, yes, when the ukrainians start categorically for something, let's give a person the opportunity to express himself and remain silent. i think it's a white sheet. even if i, even if it's green, you can't. you have the right. prom already zno. okay , people will still see that he's green. well, let them say in september that he's an idiot or i'm colorblind, that's why everything has to be catherized, we're either this way or this way, we can let half of the bunting out, or i always really like to listen to it, there is pluralism because there are many

possible worlds, and that's why europe is the way it is because there, okay, you think so i think so, there are categorical things. today, since february 24, i hate these russian eyes, sadnoy strony, and on the other hand, i also hate this, but this is an obvious evil. you know, i ca n’t. they hey bbc, you're such a famous person, and you have one point of view. when was the maidan in 2004, i say, let's say there are times when she is alone and eva, how is it wrong, this is non-standard bbc, i say, you know, let's go with the bbc standard. built this will be a cool balance, you hope for this and that fool in

russia throws rockets well, the ego needs to understand, we ca n't, that is, there are things that do not lead to the death of people and we can help to let gorse do not let go and there are things where there is death we are people here let's not argue yes, we didn't discuss the topic here, that's why i conducted it. only because there is one point of view that belongs to putin and 140 million follow putin and support him. that's all that the lack of spiralism proves, so let 's give the next question. monuments to soviet soldiers to circumvent the law on the condemnation of the nazi communist totalitarian regimes, according to which world war ii memorials are not symbols of the communist totalitarian regime, i look for a public

discussion . have to start at some point and people have to express themselves remove do not remove arguments now what i just said about pluralism do for arguments against will work vyatrovych says to demolish everyone to no avail the second will say no no vitrovych is bad let's leave it ok i want to see all everyone 's arguments and i will draw a conclusion yes and at the local level to make these decisions yes the place wants to demolish something yes the question about the monument is that these monuments have bitten vatutin to what extent how true is it that they killed him as a upa girl, and it is obvious that they could have killed him, it is obvious that they fought for ukraine against the soviet union against

stalin. let's investigate, let 's find out. kyivsky, yes, who also constantly thinks that he was simply not treated by stalin stalin well, he did not like him and he simply forbade him to be treated and he rotted there for a long, long, long, long time, he had this weight, this wound and he died, there is such a version, you know . in a separate case about lenin i do not argue about the attitude i do not argue executioners and barbarians must be destroyed immediately and i really do not like people who start talking this is our history let's imagine german history with the hitlers on large squares and the germans what are they they take to walk and not touch our hitler - this is our history full of absurdity, you know, that's why all this is in totalitarian democratic regimes, there is no such thing, yes , mao zedong, who between us girls destroyed under 100 million chinese, under 100 million was destroyed and

his monuments stand, well, this is such a different regime don't do anything, so one more question , we have three minutes until the end, isn't it a threatening situation when ukrainian words and expressions are disappearing, when the ukrainian language is getting poorer, in fact, this is not true, i categorically disagree here because compared to 1991, a rich language is becoming a rich language, it has developed very, very much in the last 30 years, but some words in any language in the most super-duper movies are disappearing, the french protect their language, it protects all sides. i am not talking about the finns anymore . - finland there aren't even international words, you know that in finland they have a special commission that comes up with a finnish analogue of the international word computer no no no it's not possible in finnish it will be somehow

different it is possible about this and the audience asked if we have some kind of peace of mind languages ukrainian, i talk about this very often, we do not have a legal, medical, engineering, and so many languages ​​that are not scientific, they need to be developed, maybe even there, it is a very big job. i think that it is necessary to start here. just elementary words and a syringe. on kak glandy anika yes they exist, but they are not used and professionals always switch back to the russian language, and here you and i are in galicia, some kind of legal language appears, well, recently it started to appear, it has a little development, but we have a very there aren't many such professional languages, they don't exist, and that's the problem. and the fact that something is disappearing may

not be needed by anyone. i don't know, although i know for sure that the ukrainian language is developing, russian is falling, if you take the last 30 years, the russian language began to be used less around 25 million people protection eastern europe central asia there georgia ukraine will thank you mr. mykola for your wonderful and professional answers i hope mykola veresen and anzhelika sezonenko were with you this evening we will meet tomorrow from 15:10 to 17:00 we will work for you on the air and i am not in america and for myself, as always, not eva melnyk, i am presenting the news right now. thank you, colleague . well, the russian nazis are increasing the pressure on the workers of the zaporizhzhia npp. and it will take up to 10 years to clear the mines of ukraine. i will tell you more together with the news editor, stay with them.