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various political turns that we see very often arise in the western capitals of various western capitals, however, the main line remains unchanged for now solidarity around the support of ukraine and moreover solidarity with the united states is a very important historical moment unprecedented in our history we must we must this and continue what we have to do to protect ukraine because by protecting ukraine we protect the whole world thank you mr. danylo danylo lubkivskyi public diplomat an activist as deputy minister of foreign affairs and director of the kyiv security forum was in touch with us . well, i can only say one thing in italy that fortunately, in addition to the pressure on the world leaders of big business, which mykhailo samich spoke about on our broadcast, there is also pressure from society. actually, now in several cities of the european union, actions have taken place in support of granting ukraine the status of a candidate for membership in the european union, at the june
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summit of the bloc, such actions were held in brussels, berlin, vienna, milan, paris, prague, and warsaw and these actions are extremely beautiful and we are unfurling large ukrainian flags and representatives of active civil society in different countries are coming out to remind their authorities about the values ​​that are actually protected by the european union, which has declared as having united values ​​for this for this european union, we will talk about this in more detail in the next part of our program, we will interrupt for several important informational messages from our tv channel, and after that we will return to this studio in a few minutes to to communicate with vitaly bortnyk and together summarize live the main political results of our week, it is very
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important in this difficult time to be aware of what is happening, we tell the news and help to understand the events, however, the war can make its own corrections if the broadcast signal is lost, watch espresso on the satellite now espresso became available on two satellites at once, if you do not have a satellite dish and the broadcast signal has not appeared, search for espresso on the internet, our youtube channel espresso ukrainian view thank you what are you looking at, more than one movie will be made about them ukrainian superheroes who bring us closer to victory every day military and civilians side by side defend our land from invaders each on their own front project ukrainian superheroes
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stories of the invincibles the story of the residents of the village of dymer who stole a russian gasoline truck and pumped gasoline for the needs of the hospital in the first days of the full-scale russian invasion, a resident of the village of dymer in the kyiv region left for the suburbs. to understand the situation, svitlana saw a russian gasoline truck with a flat tire the key was in the ignition lock, so the girl decided to get behind the wheel and take the truck to the field, there she called her neighbor valentin hryshchenko for help, and he drove the truck away and hid it in the bushes . invaders local hospitals in the city had no electricity and there were many wounded in the hospital by the way, there was enough gasoline for more than a week when the kyiv region was liberated, the man handed over the truck he is happy that he was able to
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text, and press the button to sign, protect freedom of speech in ukraine, we continue the political club program on the espresso tv channel maria gurska vitaly portnikov and in continuation of everything said by the speakers in our first part of the program, we will summarize it with our european perspectives and how they actually change their 100 days of war today is 101 and this despite the fact that world intelligence gave ukraine 48 hours after the full-scale invasion of russia and we see how it failed as a result of the heroic heroic defense of the armed forces of ukraine of the ukrainian people of putin's blitzkriegs in ukraine and actually now the enemy cannot even achieve such intermediate goals as the capture of donbas, we see how putin breaks his teeth in ukraine,
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but the struggle is difficult and promises to be long, but we only have a week and a half left until the moment when the european commission hands over member states its conclusion regarding ukraine and its readiness for the status of a candidate for eu membership. the european commission is an independent body, but its conclusions are actually based on the opinion of the major leading states and this is what the italian prime minister mario dragi said the other day stated that all major eu countries except italy are against granting ukraine candidate status at the same time. for example, the head of the german foreign ministry, anna elena berberg , stated on june 2 that her country supports granting ukraine candidate status for joining the of the european union, vitaliy. what does the situation really look like? yes, and who is in the opposition , after all, i think we will find out about it only
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later, because these consultations are of course quite mundane. by the way, we even know about the nato summit in 2008 only because of some so to speak, a rumor, the representatives of france and germany did not speak publicly and did not say that we do not want to provide ukraine with plans for a member of the type, do you remember it was a general joint decision by ourselves, that's the only thing that is normal now another world because here now we know for sure which country blocked the oil rigs, they were in hungary, we know which country opposed the fact that the name of the gundyaev patriarch kirill appeared on the sanctions list of the european union, it was hungary. is this what the prime minister of luxembourg is saying now ? he clearly said that it is about the hungarian position, which he is very disappointed with. this was not the case before .
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countries oppose certain fundamental decisions in the european union. by the way, this can help us a lot, because when the summit is held, everyone will know that some prime minister of poland or luxembourg will come out to a press conference after the summit and say, what about the heads of governments or of the president were absolutely against the fact that ukraine received the status of a candidate. maybe these goals of governments or presidents will refrain from such a decision and we receive this candidate status, but i will say right away that we always have a certain euphoria about decisions that do not immediately lead to any immediate changes, the same was the case with the agreement on the association of ukraine with the european union, a huge number of our compatriots with you believed that the agreements on association or almost membership of ukraine in the european union now they will talk exactly like this about the status of a candidate for membership
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of the european union, believe me, but the candidate status is just an opportunity for negotiations and opportunities. it is also important for the implementation of reforms, of course, access to financial opportunities, it is true, which can also be provided or not to give this responsibility for how this or that country conducts negotiations with the european union and what success it has in carrying out these same reforms, in any case, even such countries as e.e. denmark conducted negotiations with the european union for 8 years, it seems, or 10 - you and after after the candidate countries such as poland for 15 years, well, turkey has been in the status of a candidate member of the european union for 34 years, it has been a candidate member of the eu, there is no need to doubt even that, just the negotiations are not going as we wanted in the european union and turkey and it is not known at all that turkey will one day become a member of the european union because this candidate does not guarantee anything in principle, this situation does not guarantee that is why i will be very surprised
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if it is not given because this is a symbolic decision that does not agree with anyone and if you don’t give it a start to the candidate, it can be done only you know. we don’t want to annoy russia. they say that ukraine should not be a member of the european union and we’d better not give it the status - give no other such reasons to grant this status i don't see how i don't see frankly the idea that the president of ukraine is currently promoting that we have already become a member of the european union , unfortunately we did not become a member of the european union if we were a member of the european union, let's say our refugees who are on the territory of any european country let's say poland yes. they are there in e-e , they can be there until the end of 2024 , at the same time, they cannot leave for other member states of the european union if their
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90-day stay in the eu territory ends even if it is the eu of poland and uh, normally they cannot have a job in other countries of the european union where they did not ask for protection . and if they ask for protection in other countries of the european union, they can no longer ask for a job in a neighboring country, and i am sorry for that at all not the membership of the european union in fact or it in fact it is actually like this and that is the life of our citizens on the territory of the countries in relation to the european union neighboring countries this is life with the rights of refugees, there is no need to deceive yourself, it is so very conditional rights, if we were members of the european union, our citizens would feel at home in the entire territory of the eu, they did not think that oh , can i now go and drink coffee in berlin if they live somehow in a polish border city with germany well and so on. this is a question that didn’t bother me. it’s even about the possibility of working and
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renting housing there. germans who live there, as you know , in the border areas with poland, they can live there in poland. poles in germany can cite a huge number of such examples. you understand that ukrainians don't have such legal opportunities if they don't have a work visa there, it's about a completely different status. so i'm a member of the european union, it's actually life in a common confederal state. but for this, you need to fulfill the conditions of all 30 articles of this agreement with the candidate countries if we get it and fulfill the association agreement and protect our interests because remember why poland did not join the european union for so long not even because she herself was not ready but because the polish government did not agree with the requirements of the european union, which related to some important sectors of the polish economy, first of all, in terms of agriculture, which did not occupy a place in the
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polish economic sector at the time, as well as the fate that is now occupied by agriculture in ukraine, because you understand that if you become a part of the common market, you cannot be a real part of the common market. you cannot be, let's say, an unscrupulous competitor of other sectors of the economy in this market. do you remember the stories when german farmers on the borders of france and germany in there was no border anymore, but they stood waiting for trucks with french milk and poured it on the floor on the ground because it was a competition, remember when poland joined the european union for the first time , a few days in the regions bordering poland and germany began to rise rapidly prices for dairy products because the germans began to go without borders and bury milk for
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production at their enterprises, which were much cheaper, and polish milk producers immediately raised prices to the german level, which was unattainable for polish dairy plants and for its consumers. imagine that in such a situation we are next to poland or next to poland and on the same day when we join the european union . just portals in that at what level, that is, of course, three times or twice, this is an important thing, and our agriculture should receive some subsidies from the european union in such a situation, let's say what it will be, because we will be asked to limit its level is in, see, it means that our farmers will demand support from the state, otherwise they will simply go bankrupt, so the poles were the first to protect the interests of their farmers and farmers like lions, they fought with the
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european union for about three or four years and we have to realize that as soon as our delegation somehow sits down at the table negotiations by the commissioners of the european union who are responsible for agriculture seven years is definitely a lot of work, but if we talk about the status of the candidate, it does not oblige us at the moment, it allows us as soon as it gives us preferences and time to prepare and implement all these changes that will allow us to be a full member of the european union and here, according to researchers in principle, everything is necessary and our state already not only fulfills the convincing threshold of the so-called copenhagen criteria for a candidate state, in particular, we are a stable democracy. yes, we have free elections in our country democratic transfer of power, we respect dignity and freedom after the revolution of dignity - this does not cause any doubts in anyone's mind. well, the principle
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of equality of human rights, the rights of minorities are also respected in us, and in fact here, according to some researchers, the situation is sometimes better than in some states of the european union, and at the same time, despite all this, we still hear critical opinions about ukraine's readiness for the status of insufficient candidate for membership of the european union, for example, such opinions we heard recently from of the netherlands, and these are quite fresh thoughts, no, ukraine is currently not ready to receive the status of a candidate for membership in the european union, which raises doubts among the member states of the european union that we can become a candidate for a full-fledged member of the european union, in which ukraine is not ready and by what steps is it possible that the ukrainian authorities are now showing such unpreparedness well, first of all, i want to remind you that when we reiterated the agreement on the m. association in the
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netherlands, a referendum was held, which poll had more participants than it had status there then mandatory for the parliament and the majority of its participants spoke out against the fact that the dutch parliament agreed to the certification of this agreement, after which this agreement was ratified contrary to the results of this survey and signed by the king to do after which the prime minister of the diwands he did not now sing mr. markets declared that the european union should guarantee the netherlands that ukraine lacks a european perspective because the dutch parliament interpreted the results of this survey in order to ratify this agreement. by the way, there was a big step of political responsibility on the part of the dutch government and the parliamentary majority, and the european union agreed with this point of view of the dutch
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. not much time has passed, 8 years, and now it turns out that this point actually meant nothing . you were simply deceived, we wanted to ratify this agreement, you are stupid, and we are smart, and now you see, after 8 years, we agreed that ukraine has a european case, i am a dutch politician, at least we need to explain why so well, it is clear that for some reason the war, if they behave at all with it in the netherlands, has changed since the beginning of this war, they can say so simply because they remember it, they are responsible people, they will not be the next election, they will be accused of lying, they cannot with the position of the netherlands of course, but this is the position of not only the netherlands, many people think so, i think that in the first weeks of the war, when there were emotions, they gave way. this is such a well-known european calculation. and it is absolutely
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obvious that what is happening in ukraine they are watching and it is obvious that when a message of some kind of corruption appears, it is also noticed, it has been noticed in the past, and we can say as much as we want. no, we are a country without corruption, but the president himself came to power saying that in ukraine, complete corruption is a huge danger and it is obvious that corruption cannot be defeated in three years, if you say that there is complete corruption in the country, you need time for this victory, 5-10 years. that is why ukraine will not overcome corruption." that's how it should be. that's obviously strong goats for that that this candidate status does not exist. because it is a country in which freedom of speech is not ensured and it is
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not explained by some interests related to security. but how about one of the officials, i don't remember who it was. he said that the channel is not a tv channel. connected with petro poroshenko were disconnected from the digital airwaves because of the narcissism of the owner, well, i'm sorry, such a country is a country that produces the head of the president's office, he is not, in principle, part of such a real part of the government, but nevertheless, he is perceived that way by elements of which there is no doubt they got into the world version. this country is far from european standards. the hungarian government is criticized for such things. the european union wonders how a country with such standards could enter the european union . no one in europe will ever make such a mistake again. this is the second moment. what happened with the elimination of e-e er, ombudsman, all these attempts to introduce remote remote voting of deputies is a common blow, and it seems to me that the people whose
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so-so it was a trip of an official delegation approved by the chairman of the verkhovna rada actually wrote all the first schools of news that actually eclipsed and this is a shame the news from the front and the question arises why did anyone need this, it was an anti-ukrainian provocation, when poroshenko left two days later for the next international conference, the participants of which he was invited, it is difficult to understand this, but it is absolutely obvious that let's put it this way, those who do not want ukraine to become a member of the european union are a candidate for the european union, they will use this as an argument in favor of why they take such a position, of course. and i i will say right away that if this is maintained and strengthened by the members of the european union, ukraine will never become a member of nato, and by the way, which member of nato, because again, the countries that are currently members of nato already have experience of what happens when a country with authoritarian
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tendencies becomes a member of the union based on the values ​​of turkey, turkey of course, why drag another country that can afford behavior from the point of view of the authoritarian interests of the ruler, no, and even fears that ukraine may become such ukraine under this president or under to the next he can understand that we may have the next president with other, let's say, views on how the government is formed and if the foundation of an authoritarian government is laid, any politician with authoritarian tendencies will definitely use such a foundation to destroy these european euro-atlantic perspectives, but in our situation this is much more dangerous than it seems to us, because it is clear that the destruction of the european euro-atlantic prospects of ukraine is identical to the destruction of the prospects of ukrainian statehood as such, because we can defend ourselves and survive as a state only if we are known to the european union, otherwise, of course, the issue of ukrainian statehood can be
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resolved in favor of joining this territory, which is now part of the ukrainian state, to the neighboring state of the russian federation, which will make this effort to integrate our territory into its own throughout the reign of the president of russia, vladimir putin, either with the help of military force or when it turns out that this military force is not sufficient with the help of a whole a number of special operations of a political and economic nature, which we have already seen before this war, russia will not stop, putin's goal of liquidating the ukrainian state is obvious, this goal is shared by the majority of citizens of the russian federation today, the only opportunity for ukrainians to survive on this earth, and it must be understood that a huge number of people will die as a result some new russian aggression or will be forced to leave their homes and this does not apply to two or four regions at all, it will become part of the civilized world otherwise an alternative to a decade of war, suffering as much as he wants. for ukrainians to live in a developed democratic country, for this war to be the last war in the history of the ukrainian people. serhii sydorenko for
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european pravda analyzed what ukraine can do now, even with a week and a half before the conclusions of the european commission to demonstrate its readiness to become part of europe well, for example, to complete the corruption competition for the appointment of an anti-corruption prosecutor, which was actually an irritating topic for the event, it would also be possible to restore the judicial reform by appointing members of the supreme council of justice well, in the end, to ratify the long-suffering long-suffering istanbul convention on the prevention of domestic violence, turn on the air, e-e, turn off digital tv channels, such as espresso e direct fifth - this is something that can be done right now in order to demonstrate our readiness quote from a member of the european union, why are we going further and to italy, well, of course, now our conversation is structured in such a way that we actually need to talk about the diplomatic phase of the war, especially since there is for this
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and the important reasons are what is happening at the international level right now regarding the intensification of actual diplomatic efforts to stop the war. cnn reports that the usa and its allies emphasize the merits of negotiations to end the russian-ukrainian war because , in the opinion of the west the conflict can reach a dead end where neither side expects a clear victory in ownership nn says that in the last few weeks, officials of the united states of america have been meeting with british and european colleagues in order to discuss the potential framework of a cease-fire and war through negotiations, and there are a variety of scenarios here, but what do you think, vitaliy, about these plans of the world to actually put putin and zelensky at the negotiating table, is it possible in principle, under what conditions, first of all, i think that
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negotiations between the united states of great britain and the european union regarding the possible end of the war are underway on february 24, 2020. it would somehow be surprising that the representatives of western european countries, after the beginning of the greatest moment in the history of the west the biggest crisis in the 21st century, they didn't talk to each other, that's why it always seems strange to me when negotiations between the united states, great britain and the european union regarding such obvious things can be negotiated, on what terms these negotiations can be held , etc. seem like some kind of sensation. well, i well, well, that ’s still something to say, you know. and we’ve been broadcasting since february 24, 2022, when the war started. we started all ukrainian journalists to host special broadcasts. we started to host special broadcasts . broadcasts, they conduct special consultations. well, this is logical now regarding the reality of the reality of the
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negotiations. point one, i think it seems that since the end of 2019, i said this after the paris meeting in the norman format that vladimir putin will no longer meet with volodymyr zelenskyi and it seems to me that i as once said that it is not volodymyr zelenskyi’s fault, that it is from putin’s point of view. he gave zelenskyi the first last chance to surrender after zelenskyi’s surrender did not happen. and i don’t think that zelenskyi was driving to paris, to put it mildly, i don't know, i don't know for sure what the reasons were for putin to believe that this would happen is a separate conversation , but we are talking now about zelensky, when this capitulation did not take place, putin lost any serious interest in zelensky and began to prepare for the destruction of the ukrainian state for sure, that is, he realized what he should do in his opinion, which means that he will not meet with zelensky, not because zelensky is bad or good from putin's point of view, but because the ukrainian state is not
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exists and they cannot meet with a person who represents no one but himself and whether biden is a puppet. putin could meet with president yanukovych, i guarantee that if the celebrating president was brought to kyiv in a russian tank, but only so that yanukovych would sign something there that putin puts it on the table for him, by the way, this is how he discovers the negotiations with zelenskyy. he says that the delegations will decide everything, we will come and sign. we have nothing to talk about, the truth. okay, and i, again, he will not go anywhere. this is the second moment, the third moment of the negotiations. it won't be possible to force the parties to win, or they can't force putin to do anything, well, you can see it. they can only talk to him themselves. biden may want to talk to putin again , uh , we already talked, the successes were obvious moscow before the invasion. we saw
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the atmosphere of this visit. do you remember what macron said? he has been talking to putin for a thousand hours . he lived with him for a thousand hours. age regarding protection, i generally sent milk in ukrainian after every conversation, then imagine that it is actually psychotherapy, he can already tell some stories from the books he recently read there, i read there from the philosopher ilyin something about ukraine and about solzhenitsyn he reads books and retells them to the president of france . the president of france sits and thinks, god, what an old man. my name is so, what a horror. yes, mr. volodymyr, this is a very important book. and i will also tell you that during the council in veliky novgorod, the boyar was so-and-so. you know what he said about my predecessor, because it was very interesting, please complete the quotes. this is how this communication happens. i am not joking. this is what macron said when he picked up the phone and on his nerves he is giving
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caesar to ukraine. i don't mind if they can force zelensky to do something. as we know how to say, you know, you don't want negotiations, you are so-and-so, we don't give you weapons, it doesn't mean that there will be negotiations after that, president zelensky say i'm ready tell me please i'm ready to start negotiations with putin now we have no way to answer the russian belt and what will putin say where is nazification demilitarization russian status of crimea russian status of donbas russian status of kherson russian status of zaporizhzhia and we are moving on now we are advancing from the north and what do you say the west wind, oh listen, they are consolidating the troops in the north again, it is probably necessary to give weapons to ukraine again. well, i am not trying to simplify this situation, you know, but i say it all the time well, understand, friends

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