a swimsuit and this is currently the only standard means of artillery reconnaissance that is used for the tasks of both reconnaissance and shooting maintenance, i.e. adjustment, if you explain to the viewer what reconnaissance means fire adjustment, because i think that, of course, the average citizen hardly imagines what is the peculiarity of the use of your model of weapons well, intelligence actually consists in identifying targets and, er, the coordination of targets is determined, er, fire adjustment consists, in principle, in this kind of work online and with a firing position that is, with a battery, for example, an artillery one, when due to the fact that the unmanned complex, that is, the plane itself, the unmanned aerial vehicle is in the air and observes the firing of the area, the operators have the opportunity to give corrections to the artillery unit whether they

hit or not they hit what deviations in depth along the front and this allows to significantly reduce the consumption of ammunition to hit the target and also significantly increase the survivability of the firing position actually due to the reduction of the time to hit this target in fact in a nutshell, this is what they look like. and how did artillery work before there were no drones? what was the closest analogue in the artillery statute? in the rules of shooting, it was written, e. of remotely controlled and unmanned aerial vehicles eh actually, this experience was adjusted and already transferred to unmanned aerial vehicles that is, it well, let's say that it became some kind of wonder for the artillery then

unlikely, but again, the appearance of an aircraft , such as a helicopter, in the area of ​​the target is a very dangerous thing, in fact, and the risk of damage to the combat vehicle itself, at a time when a small drone measuring 2 m, for example, is in the sky and it is hardly noticeable, but is no less effective, and thanks to this, the actual effectiveness of artillery increases radically, or can we say that if all our artillery brigades and other brigades there use your complex, then almost all artillery brigades have our complexes because they is in the states. unfortunately, the need is not fully satisfied, but we are working on it, and there is a movement on our part as a manufacturer, on the part of the general staff , that is, everyone understands that there is a need, and it is gradually being satisfied, unfortunately, the rate of losses that we

we have today, they are , let's say, somewhat higher than we expected, but again, the company responds promptly to these challenges and significantly increases capacity . active phase in why did they stand out from the point of view of the effectiveness of the use of drones and threats to drones, well, in fact, the active phase of hostilities in the east of ukraine, i think, ended somewhere at the end of the 15th year, and since then, we have moved into such a trench warfare into a positional war. there weren't any big battles like that. and that's why drones were used in such a, let's say, fairly arbitrary mode. and that was actually the reason for the losses. well, there were almost no

losses, there were some nuances and problems. with the training of operators, there were losses, say , due to very rare situations with physical damage to aircraft, but still, there were no such, such active hostilities, and in fact, there were no losses like today either. and what started directly from the beginning of the active phase, what did the first, especially the first weeks of hostilities show, the first weeks showed that it is necessary to plan and provide the troops with equipment in a slightly different way. i think that in principle the command of the logistics forces is completely understands this and i think that the conclusions are already there everyone did according to the results of these three months ago that it is not enough to simply have the states completely satisfied with one or another sample, you need to

calculate and have reserves in warehouses that should become a buffer to ensure the continuous operation of artillery units, for example, if we are talking about artillery and should be such a damper that allows the manufacturers to supply and the army to constantly have the opportunity to take new complexes or unmanned aerial vehicles from the warehouse when it is needed exactly now uh at this moment because production is not some kind of uh miracle when you just pressed a button an unmanned complex appeared in you and you click as much as you want there is a procurement cycle there is a delivery cycle there is currently now with the introduction of military state with the closure of air services, in fact, we have very serious problems with the

supply of components, because in previous years it became very difficult due to covid, and today it became simply too much, then i will still take a step back and try to explain to our viewers, that is in fact, is it possible to mean that due to the beginning of hostilities, certain and perhaps even significant losses of unmanned systems were caused, the losses of systems affected the effectiveness of the execution of the task, artillery, artillery, e-e , it was impossible to buy additional systems, not because the company cannot meet the demand, and now we are at the stage when conditionally speaking in afterburner mode, we have to repair what remains and quickly create new complexes and problems is that if we were preparing for war, then we had to ensure the supply of unmanned systems there with a three- or five-fold reserve so that such risks do not arise, it is absolutely correct, the only thing is that well, i think that three-fold reserve is a bit of an exaggeration, but in that we have uh, we should provide 100% of the staff need and also create

reserves adequate to those rates, er, to the expected rate of elimination, yes, to the expected rate of replenishment of these reserves. that is, we did not count the first, nor the second, that is, in fact, we barely met the needs, and the active withdrawal of the formation is the enemy of our of drones is it possible that other reasons caused the deterioration of this symbiosis between artillery and drones? it is absolutely correct and in principle it is quite simple logistics and quite simple calculations because in principle it is the composition of a military unit or armed forces. in general, this is the same composition as , for example, on production, which performs a fairly simple task of ensuring the continuous operation of production units, and in this case, the units of our army. how many complexes did you install before the active phase of hostilities? there are tens of hundreds of armed forces there, well, it was dozens of complexes. but as i said, unfortunately, even

the need for our complexes according to the states was not completely closed, far from closed, that is, not all artillery brigades and other brigades had a sufficient number of drones if we talk about losses in more detail what exactly causes the loss of your complexes on the battlefield well, let's say yes, you probably remember the story with our work with the who in the fall of the 21st year and the problems that we raised then, this is actually first of all the training of operators eh, towards which it seems to me that although there are positive developments , the attitude is still not serious enough eh, despite the fact that the armed forces have a whole department of training, in my opinion, it absolutely did not cope with the tasks set and the level of training of operators not as we would like, to be

more precise, absolutely not as we wanted , and that work in the fall of last year she showed that , let's say, we need to change the conceptual attitude to this field or to this let's say so sub-species of the troops to the selection of operators to the motivation of these people who are going to the training of instructors to the financing of the additional financing of the training center that is engaged in this because of course, we need to create conditions for the best to go there and for people to be motivated financially - and in some other way, but unfortunately, well, this is still in the process of this, because, unfortunately, the situation will be corrected, because everyone understands that drones are absolutely necessary for all relatives and types of troops, and from the point of view, they are at a loss because of what

our complexes are suffering on the battlefield due to the impact of the enemy's fire due to the use of the enemy's means of fish, what is the most active today of what we, what was not, let's say, until february 24, this is a very active physical destruction of aircraft eh today by an unmanned complex of class eh on the battlefield, fire is being waged by such means as we have never seen the impact of. that is, both thor and armor are more powerful. there is even information that even beechs are already being fired at the complex in small small balls. to unmanned aircraft, which should actually be expendable material on the battlefield, the occupiers are extinguishing it with such serious means in air defense, that's why we understand that this is, on the one hand, a problem, on the other

hand, confirmation of the effectiveness of the importance of unmanned systems scouts and adjusters, primarily because they don't understand that if on the 2nd we have a fury, expect an artillery strike. by the complex of the electronic warfare council, the resident may be somewhat comment on these videos, it is absolutely correct, this is the work of one of the units of the airborne assault troops - this is reconnaissance, the detection and destruction of the radio electronic warfare station, the resident is quite effective work, and i think that, in principle, this is such a clear example, that is, e- it was detected by drones. it is located between two hangars, and a little later we will see how this target is

hit and burns very beautifully. it's great, it's just a balm for the soul, it's just possible, and it's just a complex of electronic warfare radios, a resident, which is used to combat our drones, drones, in principle, it was created primarily to combat communication, that is, it is not a specialized complex for combating drones, but er, in that he also has, here we can see how i play it, how this station burns, and in principle, taking into account its cost, i think that the cost of this station is several hundred of our unmanned aerial vehicles devices, i.e., the cost efficiency lies in the fact that having a large number of such reconnaissance drones in alliance with artillery, we significantly increase the possibilities for the destruction of such priority targets so absolutely, and again, the economic component is also very important

, because even the loss of one, two or three aircraft to find such a target, it is justified and economical, you told me about how your drones were used for uh, because in the zone of irpin bucha it was precisely the most difficult the period of the war, uh, and then, well, it would have been, and there were also nervous components, and there was a lack of solutions for everything else at times. but it’s all the same. let’s say that artillery, your drones worked in tandem. tell our viewers a little about how it was. because well, i was interested. i think people will be interested. yes, of course, when the active phase began, well, for the first 1-2 days, everyone was in such a state of shock and did not understand what to do next, that is, on the one hand , hostilities began and there was a great desire to join the work directly on the other hand, for the protection of kyiv, we understood that it was necessary to repair and restore the combat capability

of the complexes, and somehow we were able to combine this, that is, in principle, we were engaged in repairs and personally worked in the area of ​​hostilities, and it was quite effective her work on the guest house eh in here. at the end of february, in principle, already having a lot of experience in the application of eh, the company’s specialists went out at night and worked with artillery units, destroyed the enemy and showed quite a bit. hm, quite effective calculations which is very important that no aircraft was lost , that is, it means that the shot is absolutely important, that is, you also worked together with art units, yes, and what is the formal side. you understand that at that time no one particularly thought about the pro-formal side, but we made such attempts to

somehow formalize our participation in these processes, but unfortunately, for some reason, there was no formal solution to involve us in the forces and means, simply we at our own peril and risk, and for er, we will say with such great need and invitation of artillery units, we came and worked and carried out the result. how did you call me, you say serhii, this is the situation, tomorrow our group goes on combat operations, none there is no formal decision from the higher-level leaders, but we are leaving and will work with the artillery, so you know, it was enough and it happened because there were no formal confirmations and we were moving at night and lying on land when we were stopped, for example, by the sbu, but of course later explained but in the fact that we let us go , the guys shook hands with thanks, the case when they worked with artillery hails, when

this landing party that was landed on was destroyed it was the eighth of february, when we were actually working with one of the whips, and the bm-21 and the mlrs were working on a large crowd in the area of ​​the gostomel air force base, just when they were trying to land, yes, when they had already landed, when they had already got angry there, but there was a creak of such triangles in one of them approximately kilometer by kilometer and concentrated i think more than two 100 pieces of equipment and we actually worked and i personally introduced the development and adjustment together with the military the work had a result because one of the volleys from the bm-21 was hit, well

, several combat vehicles were hit, the bombardment began , the tower-tower flew away, it was very beautiful, there are records, it is all recorded, we will use it keep it is such for now maybe it’s still possible to provide it then it was n’t possible today. today we will receive foreign samples of artillery systems there m-3 simky others. with documents of foreign production that pass to the ukrainian army. yes, of course, of course, we can work, there are no questions, the only thing is that it does not shoot guns by itself, and, as far as i know, the plane does not interact with it without a person let's say that all the equipment that, let's say, could be on these guns, it was not included in the, let's

say, in the supply plans, the guns, in principle, are there and they work quite eh cool, but still, well, some kind of completely automatic combination of intelligence complexes, adjustments with them, uh, without human participation, is currently impossible, but we are used to it , because it works here too. do i we already do many systems, in principle, they have integration, in principle, i think that we can work with any systems and even fully automatic mode if this system supports it, we talked about losses and the company's opportunities to make up for them quickly, then what question does

the load on the company look like today, what are the opportunities and the main current problems, that is, what is the company aton avia busy with right now from the point of view of repairs well, in principle, today is very interesting the situation, on the one hand, we have a small , small order. what exactly is being considered now, its increase, that is, the order? yes, this is a new order from the armed forces that we are carrying out, but it is in the amount of what it is, it is not meets the needs, that is, there is currently a discussion of increasing these volumes, and i hope that common sense will prevail and we will have at least the minimum volume of supply of complexes that will allow without ensuring continuous work, we have the same rakes that before the war, the complexes were ordered less

than there is a need for. well, so far. so far, but i will say that the enterprises, let's say in february or march , were not ready for a sharp increase in volumes today. i think that we are already ready, that is, technically. the production base has been significantly expanded by more than twice, the number of people has increased, the number of equipment has increased, that is , we are those proposals that we have submitted to the general staff, they are quite realistic and we understand and are responsible for what we propose that is, we will be able to significantly increase supplies. of course , if there is an e-e order and of course if there is financing for this order, because we have to buy components, and well, that is, i will cover up a little, let’s say part of the secrets, that is, monkart, what did you propose to the ministry of defense, the rates that used to be annual, you said that we we can

invest the previous annual rates in months. yes, this is a very big challenge for the company. but again, as i said, we understand what we offer and we understand how to do it technically. there must be communication, there must be political will, there must be an understanding that this is necessary, and again, there must be an understanding that the enterprise, therefore, by offering such volumes, they take on a huge risk, er, and er, excessive overload, emotional, physical, and so on, but we understand that there is a war and we must do it, we must increase the speed, but we are talking only about the supply, the news for repairs, we will return now, but you only when we mentioned the enterprises, in fact, today you have several e-e production sites and one of platforms you are deploying in western ukraine , which is enough deployment, let’s say yes, or rebasing the company to western ukraine

, what kind of things would you emphasize for our viewers , because many of our viewers are just watching us in western ukraine, so well, really, at some point it became absolutely clear that it is quite dangerous to leave a company that repairs military equipment 24/7 in kyiv, because there was already a risk of blocking it and complicating deliveries to kyiv, and when the occupying forces came very close to the left bank, where the main part of the production facilities is actually located, a decision was made to relocate to western ukraine and the enterprise was moved already in march, we fully deployed, restored our capacity and currently, uh, we are also returning to the site in kyiv and we are developing a site in

western ukraine. we don't need to mention that we received a lot of help from the local residents of western ukraine. it's very warm. attitude and unexpected support in solving these or other organizational issues that were not even expected, so the company very quickly resumed its work and i hope that the pace will increase and everything will be fine in ukraine then, returning to the new and to the repair, you told the ministry of defense that you are ready relatively speaking, to make orders in a month that used to be done in a year, but a large amount of work is directly the repair of complexes that come from the line of hostilities, from which what is happening here is precisely from the point of view the repair load, what are the opportunities and challenges , a number of contracts for the repair of complexes are really being executed, there are indeed technical problems, but i

think that our viewers are not very interested in them, however, the repairs are ongoing, the repairs are financed , again, not as quickly as we would like for some reason , bureaucratic procedures have returned to the solution of these issues. but in principle, there is indeed movement, repairs are carried out with the funds of the state customer and with the company's own working capital, and a huge amount of repairs is also carried out. but we repair not only our products, we already have repair experience and a byraktar mini e-e recently there was a restoration of communication channels at the request of one of the teams also e-e we are now connected to equipping puma complexes with cartographic support e-e e-e because without maps as an

area of ​​hostilities, it is impossible to use an unmanned complex at all. well, it is clear that the complexes that came to us as aid are not equipped with these maps, our company has resolved this issue and we have now made this update and this update is installed on these complexes and which are going to the combat area, that is, i will repeat for myself. that is, you are currently repairing the turkish baryakhtar mini complex, which is transferred to us episodic, let's say, when we talk about the puma complex, it is an american complex that is transferred to us in the format of military aid, and it is a sufficiently technological sample weapons that understand yes that is and i wanted how would you evaluate the chieftain saying our place in comparison there there with turkish samples there or american ones directly through the prism of your let me say so we are not worse, we are definitely not worse, uh, there are some uh, cool technical solutions, there are some , let's say, complex solutions, at least puma, which, well, let's say

, well, some of them do not meet today's requirements, but in any case, their efficiency i think in principle, it should be at the level. and you are the conclusions you told me when you first saw the american complexes, equal, let’s say, he said that it is cool there. techno, well, well, ergonomically , let’s say so, a perfect example, and the opinion has not changed until today, one of the best now we have in our hands american puma and we understand that in fact what can be done is a more perfect solution and even in the format of improving your complexes it is possible to implement something using the work of others or do you have your own way? well, let's say yes, of course we are always very interested in solutions in similar systems of course , we always implement what we can implement in our complexes, but i will say that some solutions that are in our systems are not in the complexes

that we are talking about, for example well, these are already technical moments i think that it is not very interesting to the audience and i think that we are watched by such people who may not need to know this there, so we will not delve into this issue , but in addition to the development of fire adjustment and intelligence complexes, your company is known for the fact that you you yourself are promoting a parallel project for which there are already plans, it is a shock barrage of ammunition, tell us in detail what you are doing, at what stage is this work? how does it look the same against the background of the competition? well, the work is being done, unfortunately, the work is not being done - not enough let's say so actively because that after all, the priority right now is repair , restoration of supply, i.e., provision of art reconnaissance by the complex of eh, adjustments eh, but we are moving in this direction, in principle, i think that of course, the war made its corrections in this movement and in

its pace, eh appeared questions that were not there before the start of the active phase. because some difficulties, let's say, appeared with the supply of some components. but still, i hope that in the near future we will get some definite result, and i think that the best thing would be to demonstrate the work of our systems in the combat zone actions, that is, now uh, there is an improvement of your buzzing munition, the work is ongoing, and hmm, i think it is possible, even if we have a video. what to see the principle of using this unmanned impact sparing range is possible for us, uh, our partners will show it if they find it quickly now if not, then we will simply talk about the fact that today the ukrainian army will receive the switch blade sparing ammunition from the american side, this is fresh blade 300 and 600, and the appearance of such

foreign ammunition, the appearance of foreign ammunition of uav complexes, is she telling you? by the way, this is one of your previous ones, the first launch is the first, this is the first record, absolutely it is a little unstable, but still, this is the very first launch, conceptually, that is, the thing is that the drone lifts you up e supply which is then released so it detaches and goes to the area of ​​the target, and the copter itself remains in chernivtsi in the calculation area and provides stable and e-e communication communication over a long distance yes and now you have perfected the solution that you want to give up copter and make a launch from the ground yes, it has already been done, so this is an alternative method of launch, this is a launch from a pneumatic catapult, this

solution is already eh, and actually, we are at the stage of proving some technical solutions in the system. i think that in the near future you will already see at work, here, by the way, now there is a video of the destruction of the enemy settlement with the help of the switch blade t300 complex, and continuing your question, do you not see a threat in the fact that there is a significant amount of safe ammunition there, the appearance of foreign uavs there, from baryakhtar mini to to cougars it narrows the space for ukrainian manufacturers no, i don’t think so, first of all, these ammunitions are such an expendable thing, and, well, that’s it , first of all, and secondly, different complexes with they have different characteristics and different can perform different