with the help of ukraine, that is why we find ourselves in a difficult knot, and here the existence of one or another rhetoric of the parties is like this, you know, this is just a rather small episode, it is rather a marker than the problem itself in this situation. thank you, yaroslav boshko, political consultant, head of the center of political studies, the doctrine and dmytro sherenguvskyi, a political scientist, international vice-rector at the cube, were in touch with us . thank you for this analysis. now is the time of the chronicle of the information war, which will be presented to us by olga len. mrs. olya, i congratulate you, i invite you to speak greetings, thank you, khrystyna antin, let's start in a moment. well, in principle, we will talk about a very similar topic. in the last few days, russian propagandists continued to discuss how they should

oppose the supply of new weapons to ukraine. on the one hand, they tried to convince their viewers that nothing terrible is happening, and on the other hand, what is it? let's say objectively, is it really not true that they think that this will be done from the wound of weapons, they are fucking creatures , i did not change the situation, it is our tragedy that they create an information wave . to spit what will not be put well, it is unpleasant well , we have stronger and stronger with completely blue

parameters and we calculated everything understood that on the table how we will completely destroy all the weapons of ukraine - this happened quite a long time ago when we completely destroyed the former soviet camp. what will happen to the militarization of nato, they understood all this very well, so you don't need to calm down, remember these words about how soviet weapons were destroyed a long time ago, you will need it a little further, but to say that the russian army does not demonstrate something there is not yes, the russian army proudly demonstrates the destruction of ukrainian cities with three-baric weapons . in just 8 seconds, a thermobaric weapon is a weapon that actually creates a vacuum and literally burns everything around it. that is, it the most inhumane type of weapon. well, it’s just very difficult to find the worse ones. in addition, the

russian army there successfully destroys ukrainian churches there. ukrainian cities. literally the day before , everything burned down. the holy hermitage of the svyatogorsk lavra, which the russians also talk about that it is alleged that the ukrainians have burned it, so it is impossible to say that they are not demonstrating something there, but the fact is that conversations about how they will strike already cause such an impression that even the participants of russian tv shows are whole people and they are shelling the truth in the donetsk bullet hole , in my opinion, they were shelled 3,500 times first by special operations , according to our data, how much, sir, in the bryansk region of the territory of the russian federation and orlovskaya and there and so on, and as far as i understand , the territory of the russian federation, if it is fired at, it is absolutely the same it's 10 km from the border or 500 km from the border i'm all the same as the

territory of the russian federation and all the sovereignty of russia is dying . we are talking about the decision-making center, so far we are not shooting at it, so there is a decision- making center here in berlin . it's true, but it seems to me that it's a little bit eh yes, i completely understand what you're talking about, it's just that if they start shelling with these systems, it's completely simple on the second level, it's the second level counteractions that you can continue in the direction of global destruction of fire by our former soviets, which are even more powerful than these and nothing. well, this is a bit of a dead end with conversations about the fact that now there is something more than

that. a nuclear strike is beginning to cause the russian propagandists themselves some kind of misunderstanding . opinions if it is public opinion that it is nothing , he only hears the characteristics of foreign weapons and does not understand, uh , rudely. comrade everything will be fine don't worry, don't worry, don't worry, it's not too much. and then, i'm sorry, now i've already arrived . beskopoiytes tak kazat dalse how to occupy yourself with these things, there will just be a nuclear war and all. yes, i have this

thing, as if it were a normal supply of millet. well, this is a very strange question, and that's why i saw that this week a new line of russian propaganda appeared, because already talking about the third world war somehow, that's scaring one's own, talking about a nuclear attack is again, uh, scaring one's own population, now they're back to the old way of talking about the fact that there are one-on-one strikes in the last few days in donetsk, mariupol, luhansk, other cities of donbass and liberated parts of ukraine were visited by a large number of prominent russian politicians and statesmen. in general, representatives of the russian government and rivne increased the shelling of donetsk incredibly in the same days, so before us is such a bed, people. and a cynical demonstration of

their capabilities on the part of the kyiv regime well, who is definitely behind this regime, according to their data, about two dozen people, that’s a lot , it didn’t happen during the period from the 17th to the 22nd a year of such a situation. in general, this is really some kind of incomprehensible action, why did they suddenly get angry in their studios, saying that it is necessary to strike at kyiv, to immediately bring the verkhovna rada into office, so this is the logic of the russians to strike in response to the fact that someone is coming to kyiv for ukrainians have never had such a logic, they simply translate their way of thinking and try to impose any ukrainian reactions in general. nevertheless, there are shelling of donetsk, and a very interesting thing is revealed here. listen carefully to what they say in their jelly air it is obvious that the direction of the vector of the shot is to

say that the ammunition is now we are talking about the fact that it is a m-m grad bm-21, and we understand that it was the limit distance at which well, in general , a hit of some kind of accuracy is not possible because we have well , it depends from the differences in the terrain, depending on what height they work from only barrel artillery is important. that's all. well, we see something somewhere within 20 km of those areas in donetsk, those districts. and where today the arrivals were recorded, and hodakovsky said that they fired suddenly. that's what they say there, that the

ukrainian artillery is shelling, that's what it did. it could do everything only from some very long distances, from which the ukrainian weapons that are there don't even really reach, it can't hit that far, it is very far from the places where it actually hits , moreover, you will now remember what solovyov said before that and he said that we have already destroyed all these soviet weapons, that is, the same hrad from which the ukrainian army allegedly fired at donetsk, you have already destroyed it, you just announced it, that is, there are no more of them, moreover, a lot of shells for these weapons were destroyed before, which were destroyed in warehouses there were sabotages at ukrainian warehouses where a lot of ukrainian ammunition was destroyed and this happened during the last five years and this is also a great victory for russia, about which she has repeatedly said that we destroyed everything in the warehouses

what to shoot at ukraine, and suddenly it turns out that all this is shooting at donetsk now, so what is happening then is even more interesting, the shelling of mariupol took place there. you know what these arrivals were, and accordingly, then, what kind of explanations , what versions, please, i myself am waiting for an explanation, because, well, from the point of view of a rational approach, i cannot explain where the arrival at 10, for example, the mayor was a working american who is in a position to land there for 80 km will send, for example, a charge and try to destroy someone or something there. well, i would understand if seven of these are not available today . i

simply can’t deliver those distances, yes, and if it makes sense at all, now to work in mariupol, where and so 70% of the living stock will bring us unworthiness. we talked before we arrived, but then i'm sorry, but who was fighting in mariupol? let's tell the time. who would be in donetsk , because in donetsk there is now ukrainian intelligence , and even watching from donetsk, ukrainians who live there say that they killed in donetsk yesterday from makiivka, which is occupied by the russian troops for a long time, why are they doing this, why are they now attacking donetsk themselves, why are they now attacking mariupol, why are they doing this, because the ukrainian army does not make any sense, he said everything correctly, khodakovskyi was destroyed, and absolutely

the housing stock has been destroyed, everything in mariupol has been destroyed, why go there so that ukraine does not have enough ammunition, ukraine does not have enough shells, why spend such valuable shells for ukraine to go to places where no goal at all is being achieved in ukraine - this is not necessary, i say once again, and who it is necessary and it is necessary for russia, why is it necessary for russia, but now you will see the explanation. i think it is very important that russia will increase its efforts on the information front, which is called an information war , because the logic of the event is from what kind of cherished state all the time they are asking their supplies supplies to the allies to explain the language with some optional things, they explained to ukraine that it is impossible to shoot at russia all this defensive weapons here is the howitzer here is donetsk here are the dead children everything is clear this is what needs to be constantly broadcast at the international level , well probably every day to in the international e-e information field, this is the

logic and tracing - it was traced there are no selective deliveries, there are deliveries of heavy weapons that inevitably lead to military crimes and morons of the civilian population, that is, now the russians are shelling the cities already occupied by russia for a long time in order to show it, including on foreign media , tell them not to give weapons to ukraine because ukraine immediately starts shelling the cities, that's what the whole point of it is what is happening now, this is the essence of what happened last night, a new information company of russia immediately began regarding this kind of discrediting of arms supplies to ukraine, an attempt to accuse ukraine of something that ukraine has never done at all during these 8 years, even this will continue , we must be prepared for it and we must counter it

. it will be difficult for us to counter it. of course, because if earlier the osce was working on the contact line, which recorded where the projectiles are actually flying, who is shelling whom, now everyone is there, not works, and that is why the russians shelled donetsk so heavily yesterday . if you believe them, 70 shells were fired in total. well, 70 of these shells were fired from the city. why isn’t our ukraine even there? well, i don’t know. once released, even when ukraine strikes on military targets, there kills, hits on some russian convoys of equipment, even then so much is not released, and here they suddenly took it and in donetsk , it’s just not known why, it is not known for what purpose. therefore, now russia is doing it again, and they are doing it it is not the first time that they are doing this, and now we will have to look for ways to counteract it, and unfortunately we will have to do it even

without control and without, that is exactly why russia is doing it, because no one can control it, and i hope that here we can at least have some there may be satellite images, something else, but it must be done because they will broadcast it to their agents of influence, they will broadcast it to the world media, they will try to film it now, as they always like to do , to drive the tv crews who are filming them there, they have already been shelled and this is a very important moment now in order to prevent arms deliveries to ukraine from being stopped, this is a countermeasure to these attempts by russia to shell its own cities, well, that is, our cities, but simply the cities occupied by them, but for today, that’s all and it’s simple please pay attention to this

, let's meet. on the one hand, the war will be a long one. we will receive all the necessary support, perhaps not as much as we would like. on the other hand, information about the so-called consultations outside ukraine is beginning to arrive. cnn published an article yesterday accordingly it's about the so-called italian plan well, i'm not, i'm not surprised that the so-called sofia countries like france, germany, italy are trying to do it, but i

very much doubt that anything will come of it, and even though there are such plans, they were always from after the 14th year and they are black there will also be, but i, i, i don’t believe that what will happen to that, i understand that such a plan will exist, that such countries will always want to sign as soon as possible, but first of all, it is impossible without ukraine and ukraine that they are not a country, what is it eight years ago, zelenskyi was his team they have already said many times that there will be no third minsk, i don’t, i don’t, i don’t see anything like that, well , the minister of defense of ukraine said that the war will probably last until the end of the year, that’s not too optimistic statement from the other side. thank you to mr. reznikov for his frankness on the one hand, we

understand that the western world is the countries that we just talked about, we would not really like the prolongation of russian aggression, on the other hand, we understand that the bullet lies precisely on russia's side, that is, it is not ukraine that has declared war on russia or not, and conducts a special military operation in the green klin or in the tyumen region, it is russia that intervened in us. well, there are many ukrainians there, maybe it is also from the ukrainian territory, ah, but i think that because of those countries, the worst country for me is france. because i am also british, and france has klima krone talking about his nonsense and that we need not to humiliate in russia, unfortunately , there are no rivals, there are no competitors of france who criticize him, and at least in germany there are these

people, i want a chancellor-shows, he would like to be able to some sign a peace agreement, but his partners , while these green liberals criticize him, and here it seems to me that france was and always will be such a film about the issue of war. well, here you can ask to discuss many different scenarios, whether it will be by the end of the year or when many experts in the west are starting to say that the sanctions will have the greatest and most severe impact on russia starting from september after the so-called dacha dekva summer period, and i think that it is also necessary here it is necessary to remember that how ukraine will emerge. i believe that it will win here. it is especially important in the south of ukraine, it is much more important than in

donbas . it was not. it will be a threat to the existing ukrainian state. i think that as ukraine and when ukraine wins there, we remember that this will be the end of putin's power. putin cannot keep these powers. how will ukraine win and because of this there are many different scenarios. you can to ask to discuss, but there is actually a fact that i doubt that the russian army can be sustained for so long, because it is already in a terrible state, this can be seen in donbas and not only in donbas, and whether it will last until the end of the year. this is already the second question, uh, there is also a scenario to the west, what will be a repeat of the 17th year, when the russian arena was

just a diesel, mr. taras, a little bit from the russophile countries to the countries that are among the first and the strongest to show support in our country, they understand what a threat russia poses the federation in its current format is the existence of a format that russia must reach in order to become safe for us and for the whole world. for me, it still remains an open question. i cannot answer the existence of russia in what form will be okay for all of us, but less so for britain. yes , she is really one of the first to declare her support for our country, and i am very grateful to great britain, prime minister boris johnson, for such sincerity and empathy, in addition to some very practical things . well, in addition, britain pays a new fee anniversary of the reign of elizabeth ii, we understand that this is a

very long time and in fact many historical events occurred during this period. and i would like you to outline the role of great britain in the current world order, taking into account the aggression of the russian federation against us, because many people note that historically you know whose side britain is on, they win in the end. i am not objective here, because i am spinning. i think that here we must remember that when we compared countries like france, germany, great britain never had and there is no european union, please, it does not exist in great britain, and especially after those events 4 years ago, when they tried to poison serhiy , he screamed a lot. i would say that there is a strong anti-putin mood in great britain. i simply go everywhere you go in great britain. i live in england here. what

can i add ? in the cathedral in york, the city of york and there, the people who work there simply wore the ukrainian flag , the ensigns on their suits. i think that this is one question. the second is that there is simply no difference between laborists and conservatives or there škodskyi nationalists, what are there, valevskyi, they all support ukraine, thirdly, this is a little connected with the fact that historically, in great britain, it always wanted to show itself as the biggest and best partner of the united states of america in europe , that is, great britain, to some extent, as a bridge between the united states of america and europe. that is, what france will do in great britain will do the opposite, and i think it is also important to remember that this is the emergence of a new, well, an attempt to create a

new foreign policy after brexit. to show ourselves that we are an independent country, we are now uh . we are not part of the european union. we can't do it because now their players are in our half of the field and in our team, but there is also an understanding that other countries use this opportunity not always in our interests. i am glad would also like to add to our conversation oleksandr kraieva, experts of the researcher of north america, the british isles, the council of foreign policy, ukrainian prisma, oleksandr, we congratulate you, glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes, good day, and uh, in

fact, in the usa, the meeting of rammstein three in brussels has been confirmed, the minister of defense luidostin confirms this ah reports about it in the microblog, of course they will talk about the defense capabilities of our country, do we have anything to hope for here, because if we talk about the name weapons that should help us to win, the list seems to be huge, but when it comes to the scale of providing this or that weapon, it is simply quantitative, we understand that there is still not enough rammstein iii why do you think, or uh, i don't know, something will move out of place for the now bureaucratized processes in europe and beyond. they have to move for several reasons. let's remember how the land lease program works in general and how it worked back in the forties, because this document lisa accepted is currently actually a full copy of that with some additions regarding

the payment of, well, conditionally speaking, compensation for green forests , in fact, at that time, the usa used in its forest many samples of weapons with resources provided by britain, that is, a large part . on rammstein iii, this is the first block, what can the allies provide, in what quantity, in what time frame are you there, for example, your artillery, and the french can close, for example, self-propelled guns, who else can close something, that is, it is better linguistically to consolidate the support of the west, to make it more systematic, to make it more well-thought-out, this is firstly , secondly, we see germany. we see the issue with the fact that for how many weeks the weapons have not been supplied, not even the ones we asked for, at least some of them were ready to give, but they still haven't is supplied, and that is why the question arises. why does the question arise as to what is possible in germany? there is also a need for

help. relatively speaking, maybe they had to prepare the english one way or another, but there is also the question of consolidation, but in relation to germany and the third, if very briefly. and this is the filling of the warehouses of those countries that did not give ukraine their weapons, that is, let's say tanks for poland, that is, let's say the continuation of the supply of patriot anti-aircraft missiles to those countries that transferred 2300. this is, for example, the filling of warehouses for the greeks who are ready to give us their weapons, that is, but really should work both ways oh well, if some country is ready to provide us with weapons that we know how to use, the united states should close for them the hole in the defense that was formed from this well, the real question is how much we will be strong because we understand this is an extremely exhausting story from the other side we are aware that ukraine has no other choice because at stake is not just the issue of our sovereignty but in general the survival of ukraine under conditions of creeping russian

aggression, but it is still very unpleasant when we need help so to speak, they are scooping up spoon by spoon , uh, actually. yes, there is a big problem in this. but again, the politics of the west, no matter how it sounds in this matter, it is clear that even the united states does not want what they say escalate it to the limit, because the russians, if we talk about their information policy, succeeded in one thing, but they succeeded very well. they secured for themselves the image of a crazy leader who has nuclear weapons and can use them . it helps ukraine too much, and unfortunately the west still has to do this. well, as you rightly said, spoon by spoon, that is, give it so that we can restrain russia and you can defeat it in the end. but in order not to give it so much so together that it provoked this reaction of a macaque with a grenade. because in reality, this is exactly how russia is perceived, that is,

unfortunately, the russians were able to play this psychological card of the threat of nuclear war very strongly, well, according to the question to mr. kuzy, in your opinion, in short, russia will now deploy some additional know the theaters of potential hostilities ? no? on the contrary, she is afraid not only that i think that now russia is probably the first time i saw that they are really afraid of new weapons that are now coming in ukraine, it is visible, but it is what they are, what are they capable of, what can they do now, what can they do? i doubt it very much, and the russian army is simply. i watched yesterday in the footage, it is precisely these soldiers, the so-called soldiers of the lpr and russians that ukraine caught in the donbass, it's just ridiculous. it's not an army anymore. i think that the gradation and stagnation there have already led to

the fact that they already lack soldiers, plus all kinds of huge corruption here, everything they have ukraine has already shot down a lot of russian equipment. i very much doubt that russia can now what? what's new er, just as an army, in terms of the military, what is new to do? i doubt it very much.