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at times, many people note that everyone is waiting for a default, but somehow it will not happen. bloomberg writes that the continuation of financial pressure on the regime of the president of the russian federation is justified, but this will not change the rules of the game, the main economic vulnerability of the russian federation its export of oil and gas remains, and this is exactly what shata's allies should focus their attention on, given the format of the oil embargo that was introduced against the russian federation and the announcement that the seventh package will not be included about the gas embargo, will the world be able to put pressure on the energy sector of the russian federation? the money it earns from it , yes, and we are working on it quite actively since the beginning of hostilities in ukraine.
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of additional sanctions on russia, first of all, it is everything related to their energy exports in the energy export group, the main thing is really oil, why oil is the main thing, because oil makes it possible for russia to receive 1 billion dollars per day federation of 1 billion dollars per day, you can imagine how many missiles, bombs, and other equipment can be bought there for this billion dollars. therefore, the main effort was focused on what was adopted, such an important step was taken. the decision to restrict the sale of russian oil, the so-called sibon oil, which was transported by sea, is not enough, but in principle , for the first such stage, it is normal. this means that
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russia is completely cut off. from opportunity receiving blood money for this does not mean no , but they already have problems when you talk about default. i understand that we would like to see it, but frankly, as an economist, i would tell you that the oil embargo is a much more powerful weapon that is currently being used. er, if you compare there, i don’t know, with a real bomb that you drop on your enemy, and it will be an oil bomb, varga. and a default is if you give it, i don’t know how to say. and what else? well, er, 1-2 times blundered in such er, well, it seems to be not bad and maybe very it will be humiliating, but it is not something that changes the situation regarding the oil barge, they can definitely be stated that they are definitely not a super power
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of energy, simply no. why can i claim this? opec simply pushed them out. if you want, kick them in the ass. it doesn't happen. they won't work on this market and this place is already occupied by the guardianship countries. there was already a statement this week, the previous ones were in the previous week, but now there were already statements this week that already said that this is already a solution to the issue, they are increasing their oil production, they don't need additional idiots with the atomic bomb and who don't understand what to do, no one will communicate with them there, they are no longer in this club, first of all, if they are not in this club, then the possibilities of selling their oil are very small the european union well, it can be bought for a short period of time, although we are working on it so that it does not happen even in this
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short period of time for six months, how will we extend this bar like this when it is fully introduced they will not be able to buy where they want they have two countries left to sell their oil, they have china and india, it seems, where they could sell their oil, but china, what is it left that manages to undercut, so to speak, russian petroleum products , this is not about oil sirets, we are talking about petroleum products, and there is some kind of incomprehensible nonsense, but unfortunately, mr. advisor , we have to end the session of your brilliant analysis for today, we hope to continue it in the near future oleg ustenko, adviser to the president of ukraine worked live on the air of the information and analytical marathon of the espresso tv channel together with khrestina yatskiv, and besides the fact that we daily monitor the war
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in our country and all its consequences, we must not forget what days are celebrated in the world today , the world environment day, and to be honest, this is a topic that i am very worried because sometimes it seems to me that with all the conflicts in the world at this stage we are just flowers and we will collect berries literally in a few decades if we do not come to our senses and let's take a comprehensive look at the problems that currently exist on our planet, in addition to the destruction of the buildings of enterprises, the loss of jobs by millions of our fellow citizens from the war in ukraine, it is clear that the environment is suffering only for tea and in the zone of alienation of the occupier, they caused damage to the amount of two billion hryvnias , the total amount of losses, which is which of which the environment of our country has suffered exceeds uah 800 billion, however, not all damages to our environment are worth
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and necessary and in general it can be evaluated precisely in money world environment day let's talk about the consequences of the occupation for ukrainian nature, to begin with, we will remind you what exactly is said in our plot, the greatest damage to the environment is caused by fires due to hostilities, ukrainian forests and fields are burning, such conclusions have already been reached by the working group of international experts of the state geological inspectorate, more than three thousand hectares of forests have been damaged by shelling , an area of ​​more than half a million hectares covered by hostilities, according to the minister of environmental protection and natural resources ruslan strilets , only in luhansk oblast russian occupiers destroyed more than 17,000 hectares of forest and the amount of damage is more than uah 38 billion, these are data as of the end of april, the enemy is also targeting oil depots and large industrial facilities, toxic substances are burning and harmful emissions are entering the atmosphere and polluting it, particularly dangerous fires in the
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chernobyl zone say experts, the russians seized it on the first day of the full-scale invasion, which put the world at risk of an ecological catastrophe of a planetary scale in the chernobyl zone, the occupiers owned the moon they dug trenches in their native forest. this is one of the most polluted places. they alienated their equipment and destroyed the soil, and radiation dust rose into the air within a month. the pokéton station was occupied. experts constantly recorded an increase in the radiation level . and at the zaporizhzhya npp, the russians generally simply fired at the power units of the largest nuclear power plant in europe, it is still occupied by the enemy and the southern ukrainian nuclear power plant that near mykolaiv, according to experts, the threat of hitting a nuclear reactor was high. it is not yet clear what damage the russians caused in occupied mariupol . it is still almost impossible to assess the damage to the ecosystem from the
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bombing of the city. plundered, so in what condition is the water area of ​​the sea of ​​azov, it is difficult to say at the moment. in the black sea, scientists record the mass death of dolphins and birds. due to the use of military sonar devices and navigation devices of the occupiers, the situation with drinking water is also catastrophic, the russians are destroying water treatment facilities, water channels due to shelling and the destruction of protective structures, rivers are overflowing their banks, watersheds are developing, damaged by shells , it is quite difficult to repair the destroyed ones, in many places, active hostilities are still going on, insufficient water quality already in the summer can lead to the spread of various infections, especially the eastern and southern regions of the country experience a lack of drinking water that lie in the basin of the seversky donets and southern bug rivers. on february 27, the russians destroyed a temporary dam that limited the supply of water to the occupied crimea on the peninsula. it has already been illegally
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poured for approximately uah 620 million. the inspection of international experts dealing with ecological problems in ukraine after the beginning of the invasion has already recorded about three hundred environmental crimes on the part of russia are already preparing documents for international courts. of resources from 2016 to the 19th year, mr. ostape, congratulations glory to ukraine to the heroes, the word i congratulate you and also with us ivan grusev, doctor of biological sciences, head of the research department of the national natural park tuzlivskyi limani, mr. ivan , we congratulate you glory to ukraine, to the heroes, glory to ukraine, we spoke with the previous speaker it would be completely illogical to talk about the economy and talk about energy, and to be honest, when it comes to pro-energy , it would be completely illogical to ignore the economy. i would
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just like to remind you that actually on the eve of full-scale invasion of the russian federation into ukraine this happened on february 2. the european commission presented an additional delegated act which included nuclear energy in the eu taxonomy, which means that nuclear power plants are recognized as an ecologically sustainable source of energy, new nuclear construction can count on receiving permanent investments from financial institutions of the european union well, of course, under certain conditions conditions and their fulfillment eh at the same time, we must understand that eh full-scale invasion must have thrown certain thoughts into consideration on the part of european countries, what to do with their own energy, so that you do not depend too much on the russian federation, and it is also desirable not to cause damage to your own environment, and mr. ostapa, to what extent do you think that russia's war against ukraine will change the rules of the game in the sense of energy and
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ecology in the world or there is any hope at all for this , it is already changing the rules of behavior and planning for the strategic development of energy in the european union, first of all, and in general, then this will be a consequence that the whole world will feel, let's say if analyze the latest statements, not only what you said just now about the decision, but also the latest political statements of the leaders of the european union, they clearly say that the dependence on the energy carriers of the russian federation significantly affects geopolitics, and that is why the european union is trying find new sources. and new sources can be not only renewable sources, but also nuclear energy, although a lot of attention is paid to the development of green energy sources, and appropriate decisions are made regarding
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support for projects that contain such a component , in particular, the commission two weeks ago presented a new , new legislation, a draft of legislation, more precisely , legislation that will stimulate and determine that all new construction that will take place in european countries must contain a green component. well, what is it about if a new one is going to be built there, i don’t know whether it will be a residential complex or a shopping complex, the projects must contain new technologies from renewable sources, and such projects must follow the accelerated procedure. there is also a clear and bright signal that, as a result of the aggressive policy of the russian federation, europeans are looking for new approaches to become less dependent on the russian federation. well, this trend
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is usually supplemented by the green deal policy of the so-called grindilo a, which involves a number of steps just to support the search for new sources energy and i think that ukraine after the war will obviously also have a strong push to develop such sources, but i am surprised by today's policy of the ukrainian government, which stops the development and does not support such especially difficult conditions there, let's say to what extent it was decided by the government, and now the stations that produce green energy receive payment for the energy produced at the level of 15 percent. i understand that these stations only have enough money there for wages. yes, it is already in trend after
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the end of the full-scale war, in fact, it is just another stage, it is not with the russian federation, mr. ivan, i pass you now, i know that you definitely have something to say as an environmentalist, in particular, well about energy problems i won't say because i'm not an expert i've been working in the national nature park here for many days, for many years, the lviv estuary, which is not far from zmiivny island, this is a large area of ​​the sea, many estuaries, and we we are observing a really terrible phenomenon that is going on in this, uh, uh, nefarious and bandit russia in recent days. we are recording a lot of dolphins on the coast of the black sea.
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to the shore and they are unlike those dolphins that we observed earlier and were poachers because they have cut off fins with uh, well, traces of nets, now they absolutely look, well, as if they were alive, but they die because russia uses uh powerful sonar, and there was never anything like that in the black sea before, they are disoriented, they can't uh, uh, look for uh, food for themselves and they fall into nets, uh, turkish nets, for example, we know of such cases from our colleagues , they come across mines, they fall into they are hit by shells that fall in the black sea, and therefore now there is a great threat to the population of three species of dolphins in the black sea, in addition to the fact that children are hit, we have very big
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problems from bombardment from the sea, the territory of the national park, especially the estuaries, there are several objects there who are trying to find this growth and they are bombarding the tuzliv estuaries and this leads to various negative consequences , they are very big, we are fixing them. we are counting the losses and i hope that the time will come when russia will have to pay for everything that it has done against humanity and against the environment, of course these are the key words they should pay in general maybe someone should pay and compensate us for the huge environmental costs, we understand that there are a lot of environmental international organizations in the world, on the other hand, we understand that there is an outright aggressor who destroys our nature and it is about abstract, do you understand ecological formulas act about very
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specific money so, mr. seven, in your opinion , is there any chance to condemn billions of funds that would received for our various environmental protection measures . thank you for the question, in fact it is extremely important and very important. if it is possible to condemn these funds, so that these funds go to the body that you are asking about and not to the general boiler, and this must also be discussed in relation to the procedure itself in order to be sued, of course it is necessary to fix, and such fixing actually took place starting from 2014, because we perceive that the damage was caused not only during the full-scale invasion, but starting with the annexation of crimea and those military actions that were on donetsk region and luhansk region since 2014 and
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when i worked as the minister of ecology , we did such work together with the osce monitoring mission and published reports every year. they are public . they are on the osce website and once they were on the website of the ministry of ecology e-e available for anyone, and they contained several sections on damage to nature, to the trust fund, on damage to the water, damage to the soil, damage to the atmospheric air, and other sections, i will not list them. this work should be done not only by ecologists, they should have support of the lawyers of the ministry of justice of the ministry and we understand that the case is actually very, very serious and it is not about tens of millions of dollars, it is about billions, but the question in which office in the conditional gay tribunal should carry such documents, i am a
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supporter that after the end of the war and our victory, a special court should be created that will consider and make decisions regarding the aggression of the russian federation, and i am i stand on such positions because the damage, especially to the environment, which caused by the russian federation as a result of aggression against ukraine, not only ukraine will suffer this damage, the whole region will suffer this damage, and of course turkey and romania and moldova should also join us, and possibly other countries and i think the european union , because these consequences are felt by the countries of the european union union and having such international support, investigative actions should be carried out and there should be e-e decision of the courts and the most important recovery of this damage and i emphasize the
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correct and effective application of the use of these funds so that they go to measures to restore the environment in our region, mr. ivan, you detailed the situation that concerns the black sea, i would now like to draw attention to the situation in the sea of ​​azov. and this is already being announced at high levels. the sea can simply die out if the russian federation will continue to do what it is doing and is destroying just now the environmental problem in general with our seas to the extent that it spills out is generally felt by our other neighbors let's say in the same seas and whether it can be said that some kind of joint mechanism for countering at least the ecological consequences of the war is being worked out, and indeed the threats from the sea urchins are incredibly
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large, especially as regards the sea of ​​azov, because compared to other seas, it is a very shallow sea and there are any factors there is also a large amount of negative quality, it completely affects the entire ecosystem of the sea of ​​azov, and now there is a threat of hydrogen sulfide... it's not the black sea. it's so scary because the black sea is more than 2,000 meters deep with hydrogen sulfide. that's why it's not so dangerous. but in general, the hydro and biota and flora of the black sea are very sensitive to those challenges and i think i know a lot. their friends in various countries , especially the coast of the black sea, who are following
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these vegetative processes, and we will jointly work out mechanisms for compensation for damages in the black sea and the sea of ​​azov . i believe that this war will soon end with the victory of ukraine and we will show the world that we we protect not only our land, but also the unique biological diversity that we have, national property is international property, we signed our country signed many environmental conventions, and i think that these conventions can become for the protection of all the biological diversity that we are currently losing. i hope that the money will be reimbursed by russia, as if she were showing off her power and her er directions, the destruction of the world, but the civilized world will overcome
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this is the way and we will live in the best country with a unique biodiversity, which we will restore. thank you mr. ivan for the optimism, but on the other hand, we understand that the devil hides in the budget, in the budget details. targeted and at the address well, accordingly , now we have another threat, we understand that the european union, thank god, canceled various export duties for ukraine, but we also understand that our not lazy forest poachers can to use it for what for the export of products made of wood and trees and wood as such, that is, they cut down the carpathian oaks, so to speak, and sent them
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to the european union. a hot topic and it was hot before the war, today you correctly noticed that it went into the shadows a little against the background of war and military actions, but those people who engaged in illegal activities obviously did not change i don’t know if it’s suitable for life or for earning money. and they continue to work. it’s obvious that today the ministry of ecology is a little easier, because in the days when i worked, the minister of ecology was responsible for this area for some reason in the ministry of agriculture, and they usually treated the forest as a resource . i understand that these tariffs that you are
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talking about are not significantly reduced - their cancellation will not significantly affect the speeding up or reduction of the illegal forest flow here most likely, it is necessary to take a balanced and reformist position regarding the forestry strategy . unfortunately, today it is not a priority for the ukrainian government, and not very much. we hear certain changes and of course control what goes abroad from the ukrainian carpathians. i understand that there are very few statistics, but i suspect that the visual statistics do not show the situation, but i just saw it a couple of days ago. for example, it is moving towards poland, yes, by rail, that is, grain, grain, empty
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fuel tanks, round, round, round, round, no i know. maybe somewhere it will go under other papers, so to speak. well, but a visual analysis shows that our ukrainian right-wing forest is moving towards the european union. of course, this is worrying . well, i don’t know khrystyna, how or if we will manage to do this . in the current situation, we can control it, especially if those or other velor boys will sit on such topics, well, no matter what, but i would like to believe that the rules of the game in ukraine will change and some awareness of what we are doing with our country and how we can preserve it in general will appear in on the heads of ukrainians, there will be no more garbage in the carpathian river, because the water will carry it or take it away. but at the same time, there is one more question, again. we talk a lot about the restoration of ukraine after the war. we count the money . we count the losses first. it's clear, you even
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try in some places eh hmm i don't know how to build some visa concepts of my life for the future, this is done in that specialized ministry, then those working groups. and in the context of ecology, to be honest, i would like to see something very similar. i think that i will not open america to anyone and if i say that everything is very, very, very bad with the recycling of garbage in ukraine and the war would have been better not to have fought. has been living by these rules for a long time, and it is bearing fruit, mr. ostap. i think that, unfortunately , with the current verkhovna rada, there are no such chances. sorry for the bad news, but the law that should continue the reform that was carried out in ukraine since the accident on to lviv
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landfills in 2016 was stopped in 2019 by the ukrainian parliament of the current convocation and the draft law of them we lost the sound, unfortunately if you hear it we hear we don't hear mr. ostap we don't hear i then forward this question to mr. ivan well, i don't know recycling it is garbage one way or another and then everything ends up in the world ocean. maybe someone will say, well, another gretaturnberg was found here, but well, it really hurts me, mr. ivanovich gretochko, i think that the war gives us a very harsh panasap, please, the psychology of people who are now
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they feel anger and pain in relation to this war, but it hurts me, i will tell you about it, we are now, and during this war, we are occupying a lot of objects of the nature reserve fund, starting with mariupol, there is a neotida national park of azov sivashsky priazovsky, er, other objects, we have them under occupation now, and our country promised when it took the european strategy into account. it promised that by the 21st year we will have 15% of the objects of development of this territory of ukraine, and we have them now only 64 tithes we cannot fulfill ours promises, therefore, i believe that the new government that will be after the war, i will definitely have it, it should expand the territories of the nature reserve fund
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, because thanks to such territories, we have the opportunity to protect and restore and preserve this precious nature that we have in ukraine is incredible. thank you, and mr. ostapa, please complete your opinion about the reform that has been delayed in our country. thank you. has been preparing for the second reading for years, from my point of view this is a deliberate blocking of the reform of the press in 2016 and unfortunately this parliament will obviously not accept it, we need to wait for the next convocation of the parliament of the next government in order to solve the problem with garbage in ukraine thank you i will remind you that the environment has launched a mobile application eco threat invites ukrainians to join

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