and the meeting, that is, they are somehow so uh from the urgency of these uh, as they say i am not going home, which is not there, and now the red cross is helping to send such people as far as possible from the south, because we are really restless now they are defending, but the villages that are near mykolaiv, and they are their orcs , you can say that they are orcs, they are leveling the ground, i just don’t know, maybe they are doing it because they ca n’t get closer to mykolaiv, maybe in this budget it’s like that and more we have a direction in evacuation is abroad, that is, abroad, we are evacuating germany - this is spain, well, we

also receive some charitable funds, some individuals there, well, work is being done and the red cross works like clockwork, but it should not be confused with the international red cross and the red cross of ukraine, we have joint projects, may i add a little information about ms. iryna, unfortunately, we don't have time anymore, the main thing is that it's operational, after all , the situation is already over these 100 days, we have more or less figured out the difference between the international red cross and red cross ukraine, we know that there are, after all, separate projects, we constantly cover it on our air and pay attention to it, so thank you, especially since our communication with you is a little unstable and we

are hearing some of the information interruptions, but the main thing is that you shared operational information about our evacuation , this was important to us. iryna vorontsova , volunteer of the red cross ukraine in the mykolaiv region, was in touch with us . this morning there were also explosions, we are waiting for more information from the local and regional authorities, but now we will distract ourselves a little from the operational situation in the regions and in the next hour we will start a conversation with experts, which will actually be devoted to the situation with the situation in the economy . at prices, what is our situation with inflation and how does it hit our wallets ? we will be back in a moment good evening we are from ukraine vasyl zima's big broadcast my name is vasyl zima

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on the satellite. now espresso is available on two satellites at once. viewers who watch our channel on the astra satellite should readjust the tuner to the new parameters, because the old ones parameters will soon stop broadcasting espresso ukrainian view thank you for watching, maybe we will actually return to our heifer let's talk about the economy actually we have someone to talk to are economists expert analyst borys kushniruk i already hope to be in touch with us sir is struggling or in us hello, i hear barcelona. we have seen enough of what you have written. we have paid attention to the topic of raising the interest rate very sharply by the national bank from 10 to 25%. yesterday, we also analyzed this story a little bit, but you know, in this case, in this case, what

what is the problem? it seems to me that when an ordinary person who is not an economist hears that the discount rate has risen by 15%, he says well, what is the explanation of the national bank why ? they did not promote inflation because it is obvious that the national bank is now printing a lot of hryvnias in order to cover the budget deficit and it is not fully covered by income. here's yours. what's your opinion about this year ? well, let's just say that i have a very old relationship , considering that i've been in the banking system with it for more than 30 years. on the one hand, i

know many people. for many years, i have been concerned with what the central bank is doing since the time of yushchenko , i had public battles with him on this matter . it is necessary to support the development of industry in ukraine, the production of a-a is definitely not only the national beam is responsible for whether production in ukraine develops or not, but the fact that he, by his actions for many years, is to the point that the production enterprise and what they are more difficult, the more they became hmm, let's say we created attractive conditions for them,

unfortunately, there are problems, and what is the problem, what is the problem? is for you task of manufacturing enterprises and will not be such a task because well, of course, under 25%, no one passed the enterprise can use other things that during the war there is another problem in order for the banks to have the opportunity to lend to enterprises, it is necessary to remove for them, extremely significant military risks are associated with the fact that certain enterprises that will be sanctioned may be designated as a consequence of a war of missile strikes. we saw all this already this morning as in kyiv there were explosions from rockets into the industrial zone

the pain was placed on the first page of the morning shelling of kyiv and the editors report that this is the most massive missile attack on the capital since april . please continue. the reason is that these risks need to be removed in some way, or rododendbad, then it is not a risk to not give credit , especially when it is large enterprises. then the risks are big, and you can actually spend the borrower's ability to return this loan to you . the state introduction of a state guarantee is needed, well, let’s say it’s correct that the insurance of these war risks should be covered by the state in the event that the borrower is unable to pay due to the destruction of his property, in this case, these are the risks of the banks step by step, the government must do this

if we we want these enterprises to start working and develop why do we need it because what why in the training bank is forced to carry out a significant area to cover the defenders also the budget because there is no income to the state budget from the revenues of enterprises, that is, in order for these revenues to appear, you need everyone to be checked and start working, so that they have working capital in order to be able to start operations, or for this you need access to loans. because loans are e- well, bank loans. for this purpose, they are a key mechanism for the replenishment of working capital, so this is already completely destroying the banks, respectively . and that they replenished the revenues of the state budget, in addition, considering that they do not work, they do not have the opportunity to increase production and

export the product or replace imports, respectively , you have pressure on the account from the side of the demand because a- and you have fewer exports and less possibility of import substitution products, that is, you have imports, and accordingly you also have pressure on a-a way of currency, that is, you do not actually solve any question except one of earning money on the pension paper market. well, besides that what in particular, banks currently maintain a multiplicity of exchange rates, and the difference will almost be interest. this creates a huge opportunity for abuse, and i will not be surprised if it is not just an opportunity, but it is actively used when those close to the government and to of the central bank, a person does not live this, that

's why i, based on a hole in the state budget. and more, that is, these statements that we will raise taxes in wartime, so it is necessary to understand what rates need to be restored there, first of all, it may be about vat and excise duty, well, at least on fuel , excise duty should be restored because now the profitability of the supply of oil products to ukraine is more than 100% but how to protect the income and savings of citizens, that is, here national bank warns against tolorization of the economy yes, but still what is the best solution for citizens or is there really the best recipe. well, just reinsurance

and buying foreign currencies for these savings that are in hryvnias. you understand, well, first of all, you already know how late it is to drink . at the same time, if it is not the bank that will continue its erroneous policy, it will continue to create pressure on the national currency rate, in which case inflation. well, you will not be able to stop it in conditions when you are forced to carry out a mission of funds to cover the 10 state budget and when you remove the possibilities for improving the balance of payments by your actions, when there will be more foreign investment coming to ukraine from enterprises and domestic

production will develop, which will replace imports, you will have pressure on the national currency rate. and you will not do anything about it for me it is obvious that there should be a completely different economic algorithm in order to sit and the population is now well in eh on the one hand yes, it is definitely more appropriate to hold in foreign currency , but also considering that especially the opportunity to buy this foreign currency is not so much, so i don’t think that now, well, let’s say it solved the problem of the crisis, which is also with the blockade of ukrainian food exports and sea routes, which is one of the dimensions of the full-scale invasion of russia into ukraine and the economic pressure of russia on our state, ukraine, as we know it is possible to export part of the products with the help of our friends, in particular in eastern europe , and to actually export the railway, and they are already further to

the sea, but this is not enough, and according to the experts, the consequences of such criminal actions of russia, such as the blockade of ukrainian ports, these consequences can be terrible and can cause a global food crisis that will leave about 18 million people on the brink of starvation. un secretary general antonio otelish has entered into negotiations with russia, turkey and other countries to unblock the export of ukrainian grains. well, at the same time, otelish proposes to lift the blockade e-e sanctions have been imposed on e-e russian and belarusian potash, what is the situation in your opinion with food exports, how does it look in your eyes and how to prevent the easing of sanctions in exchange for grain for e-e for other countries that may now suffer from starvation as a result of russia's actions and what may be reflected in the

global world security. the european union itself will be hit by waves of refugees. er, some tables and these are not my data - these are the data of the us department of agriculture, that is, i, and they do a monthly review and review the forecaster of the production of consumption and the so-called transitory stocks, so uh, uh, i showed that in fact, from the point of view of whether there will be a famine due to the fact that there is a physical shortage of food due to the fact that russia is blocking the possibility of withdrawing grain from ukraine, and i categorically state that there cannot be a famine by itself , despite all the importance of ukraine for the world

system and grain crops are mostly affected by a in e, but hunger cannot be a problem for the countries of the middle east and africa. as a rule, these countries are poor there or in the so-called transition economies , and they can, that is, with problems that the cost of a-a food will increase accordingly, they will not have the funds to purchase e for the needs of the population, or it will increase in price very significantly, accordingly, this is very much reflected in the socio-political situation in these countries, and the only way out is not to try, but to somehow come to an agreement with russia. i am sure about the end of the war, it will not be possible to unblock the ports, because this issue is not only a direct threat of attacks on ships that will transport

grain from ukraine, there is also the problem that the russians scattered quite a lot of mines in the black sea i i am far from sure that i will find many willing shipowners who will agree to send ships to the black sea now because there are risks that these ships will be damaged or may be stopped altogether, so based on such considerations, i well, i think that the only way out now is this decision of the leading countries of the world through the mechanisms of the world bank and the imf and the world food organization fao so that they simply financed these countries and provided them with e to finance e partial compensation for food costs is clear, this

is a clear plan, if it is clear, plus , let us also remind you that the ti reported that great britain is coordinating with allies a potential plan to send warships to the black sea to escort vessels exporting ukrainian grain and for the demining of waters that have been mined as a result of criminal actions boris kushniruktiv between us there is no connection economists expert analyst this is an important inclusion, and now we have a great interview that our yuri fizer did with uh, finn himself uh vingarely hugo vingarely, you know that it was the ambassador, the head of the representative office of the european union in ukraine in the 16-19th years, we know mr. mineri very well and against the interview actually about the effectiveness of russian means of mass disinformation in ukraine, some are sure russian disinformator, well, about that later, the terms of the cease-fire and the path

of ukraine's integration into the european family, about this not only see the interview of yuriy fizares, ambassador mingarelli. greetings. my name is yuriy fizer on the espresso tv channel. as you all know very well, i i lead international news tells about what the world is saying about the war that started in ukraine on february 24 of this year, how we have been holding the defense for three months and even pushed the enemy from our lands well, how is the world helping us well, who better to explain and tell about it than not people who know the west, who know the world, who worked in western structures, my guest today is a person whom we saw quite often in 2016-2019 on our tv screens, the ambassador of the european union to ukraine wanted mingareli in 2016-2019 years but congratulations mr. mingorelli congratulations

thank you very much for joining me today and what can i tell you about how the west helps ukraine and how the west will help us in the future so my first question is, in your opinion, is the european union doing enough today to force russia to pay for its aggression against ukraine the union has no choice in this conflict, it must take a very clear and understandable position because this is a war not only of russia against ukraine, it is the aggression of the autocratic putin regime against of all democracies, when putin's regime decided to encroach on the sovereignty of such an independent country as ukraine, in this way he decided to violate the basic principles of the european security

architecture, and in this way the putin regime attacked us, that is why the european union is obliged to unwaveringly support ukraine, it is clear that the ukrainian people are very sorry is paying a high price for this aggression because tens of thousands of ukrainians have died, millions of ukrainians are trying to escape from their homes, but i repeat once again this is the war of the putin regime against the democratic world, therefore, we must unwaveringly support ukraine, the united states in february, the european union adopted sanctions against russia, you probably remember that already on february 23, just one day before the start of the aggression, the is adopted and applied the first package of sanctions, which included the cancellation of visas for a large number of deputies of the russian state duma, as well as members of the russian security council, in addition, the european union introduced sanctions against a number of state-owned companies. the eu introduced restrictions and sanctions against the economic

sector of russia, for example, but the financial system of the energy sector, technology transport, the european union decided to suspend the granting of visas for russian diplomats and businessmen, in addition, the eu decided to introduce a ban on the import of russian coal, on the import of russian iron , steel, cement, wood, and a large number of other goods, so at the moment, the european union already introduced five sanctions packages, but this is not enough. it is clear that the eu should introduce a ban on the import of oil and gas, but how do you know because of this, we are also facing a lot of difficulties two weeks ago, the european commission proposed to ban the import of russian oil , unfortunately, now we have a hungarian veto at the meeting of the heads of states of the european union, this issue will be discussed again, and i hope that the

ban on the import of russian oil will be approved . now it is very important that the eu stops financing russian aggression against ukraine, and therefore it is also important that we stop importing oil and gas as soon as possible. that's how in boating in the oil and gas do you think these sanctions will be enough to stop russian aggression, or maybe at a certain time there will be a seventh package of sanctions, this is not enough, we must do much more, we must continue to do everything to make the putin regime pay for this aggression against ukraine and against the democratic world. a very serious price is required for this, much more, because now it has become quite clear and everyone must understand that putin's regime only understands the balance of power, so if we can make him pay a high price then they will understand that they themselves are not interested in

continuing this military aggression against ukraine. therefore, in this confrontation, we must be as strong and unmoved as possible, mr. he hareli, let's talk a little about the year 2014, because as we all know, the russian war in ukraine began exactly in 2014, after russia illegally annexed crimea and started a war in donbas, that's when the european union introduced sanctions, don't you think that these sanctions were a little too weak and that's why they didn't stop further aggression against ukraine, you are right. at that moment, the european union did not react properly. as you have already said, in 2014, after the russian aggression in crimea, as well as in the luhansk and donetsk regions, the european union introduced sanctions , then decided to stop holding certain

meetings at the ministerial level, then also decided to exclude russia from the g8 and did several things that they wanted to convince russia that aggression against ukraine was unacceptable, but this was not enough, so a whole series of european political leaders who continued to conduct a dialogue with putin probably convinced him that he could continue his aggression against such countries as ukraine, moldova, georgia, that is why i believe that at that time we had the opportunity to show greater confidence and strength in relation to putin and then we could force he paid for this aggression the highest price we could uhu that it is impossible to conduct a dialogue with a country that does not respect the sovereignty and territorial integrity of its neighbors, so i completely agree with you regarding the fact that at that time the reaction of the european the union was not powerful enough. thank you, mr.

minrelli. you have already said that in the european union there is a kind of opposition to the introduction of the sixth package of sanctions and there are several countries that do not want to adopt this package in its current formulation with the ban on russian oil and gas. would it be correct to say that there is no unity in the european union right now, look again july, indopin, union, right now it screen , it is quite clear that in this european union, which consists of 27 countries, it is becoming more and more difficult to make joint decisions on sensitive issues , there is no doubt about this, and this applies not only to the import of russian oil, for example, when the european union tries to reach a common opinion regarding migrants or refugees from syria and afghanistan, it is very difficult to do , however, we must find points of contact and

adopt joint positions i am sure that during the meeting of the european union we will receive a ban on the import of russian oil and if hungary continues to save the adoption of such a decision and the other 26 member states will be able to adopt such a ban is possible, and it is possible that we have adopted it. but i am sure that a large number of eu members are convinced that the european union can no longer import russian oil and gas and thus finance russian aggression against ukraine, that is why the european commission has already published its proposals to end dependence on russian of purchased fuel, especially from hydrocarbons, namely oil and gas, i am sure that we have made such a decision, and i really hope that the sixth package will be approved, i really i hope p mingerell why some leaders of the european union have now started talking about putin's peacemaking, we believe that now

everyone's greatest interest lies in how quickly the ceasefire will be, but at the same time it is quite clear that it is the ukrainians who must decide on what conditions they will agree to a ceasefire, we are talking about the territorial integrity of ukraine and only the ukrainian people and the ukrainian political leadership should decide when and on what terms they will agree to a ceasefire, i believe it is right to try to find better ways to stop the fire as soon as possible because tens of thousands of ukrainians have already died. as you know, the civil infrastructure in ukraine has been destroyed, many roads , railways, ports have been destroyed , many houses have been destroyed - 6 million 600 000 ukrainians have fled their country, more than 8 million ukrainians are not living in our own homes, and therefore we must do everything possible to achieve a

ceasefire as soon as possible. but i repeat once again, only the ukrainian people should decide on which under the conditions, it should not be decided by the west. thank you, you understand, you worked with various institutions of the european union and you were the representative of the eu in ukraine in 2016-2019. you know very well, how to say it, the internal european cuisine. therefore, maybe you will tell me and our viewers about when will ukraine be able to obtain the status of a candidate country for joining the european union, the european commission will announce its opinion on ukraine's request for the status of a country