own homes, and therefore we must do everything possible to achieve a ceasefire as soon as possible. but i repeat once again, only the ukrainian people should decide on what conditions to pursue this, it should not be decided by the west. thank you, you understand, you worked with various institutions of the european union and you were representative of the eu in ukraine in 2016-2019. you know very well, how to say it, the internal european cuisine. therefore, maybe you will tell me and our viewers about when ukraine will be able to obtain the status of a candidate country for admission to of the european union the european commission will announce its opinion on ukraine's request for candidate country status in june in june the

opinion of the european commission will be in a few weeks, but as we know the european union does not have a consensus on this issue, but all the political leaders of the eu have already very clearly said that ukraine is part and member of the european family , there is no doubt about this. however, there is currently no consensus on how to best integrate ukraine into this european family, some eu members such as the baltic countries or poland clearly state that the status of a candidate country in the country must be granted immediately and that we must also immediately start negotiations on the inclusion of ukraine so that ukraine can join the european union as soon as possible, other member states such as france,

italy, germany believe that for it will take 15 to 20 years to complete the negotiations on the accession of ukraine and the accession to the european union itself. and for this it will be very important to establish and create a new format that the french president has already called the european political community, such countries as ukraine, georgia and moldova can be integrated into it, and whenever the heads and governments of eu states meet, for example, twice or three times a semester, the political leaders of ukraine, georgia and moldova could be invited to this meeting, they could participate in them in order to discuss political and security issues that interest everyone and at the same time ensure that ukraine gradually adopts european laws and regulations in order to sometimes integrate into its own system a whole series of european rules, we are now observing exactly this situation, this issue will be discussed in memory in brussels and in june , the next meeting of the european council will be held, i

cannot say how these discussions will end, but i advise my ukrainian friends, first of all, to implement the current association agreement as soon as possible why because godi will act on the association, there are conditions for a deep and complete free trade zone, which means that ukraine can relatively quickly become a member of the single european market, and this means that according to the current association agreement, we can integrate the ukrainian economy into the economy of the european union, and this will be extremely important in order to, firstly, improve the living conditions of the ukrainian people, and secondly, in this way, european businessmen could convince our political leaders that ukraine needs to integrate into the european union as soon as possible is the first thought of a friend, i would advise my ukrainian friends to speed up the political and economic reforms of ukraine to the point that it is incredible to apply

the economic potential of your country, because if you introduce the necessary reforms, you will convince the european leaders that ukraine will be a non-burden for the european union. and the advantage is that ukraine is a country with a fantastic potential, if it is worthy of use, you will be able to convince the political and economic leaders of the eu that it is they who are interested integrate ukraine into the european union, because i repeat once again, you are a fantastic country with fantastic potential, please do all this and do not pay too much attention to the split of the eu, the main thing is yours future fate if you are serious about introducing reforms to implement the association agreement, then you will create objective conditions for ukraine to join the european union relatively quickly, mr. minvareli, i really hope that our government officials will watch our interview and hear what you just said and what was

proposed and this will help speed up the process i really hope so thank you so some european leaders at least i read about it say it's time to cancel the unanimity article when making decisions, they say that it can help to make very important decisions faster in the european union. and you think that in the eu they can do this. it is quite clear that the principle of unanimity is used. today i am a serious obstacle to the adoption of a whole series of laws. i have already mentioned the policy regarding migrants and in denmark the asylum commission put forward its proposal on the issue of migration two years ago. but we still cannot decide anything despite the fact that the management of migration and migration flows today are one of the main problems facing the european union and we cannot

adopt such a policy due to the lack of unanimity, so i believe that we should think very seriously about the possibility that would allow the european union to move forward in certain sectors without such unanimity if certain countries do not want to take participation in certain things, they can simply be removed. by the way, this is exactly what we did with the schengen area, which allows the free movement of people within the european union, which member states did not want to participate in this because they didn't take it the same was with the euro area you know some countries didn't accept the euro as our single common currency and so they continue to use their own currency i'm convinced that this is exactly what we should adopt we should decide that in case any member states do not want to deepen our european integration, they can simply be removed, they can participate in

the eu single market, they can participate in some quarrels but not in others, for example, this is how we should push our international and security politics, because these are precisely the areas in which the european union should be really strong. today, we are faced with a whole series of autocratic regimes , such as putin's regime, and it is quite clear that the european union should be able to adopt a common security policy and security policy if we do not have 27 countries for this members must make such a decision, and the number of member countries reduces what ukraine must do in order to receive the necessary investments for the post-war reconstruction of the economy and the destroyed infrastructure. i think that the leaders of the european union have already clearly said that the eu will lead the process of rebuilding ukraine. it is obvious that in this

process it is necessary for the ukrainian government to be the main one in this process, but in close cooperation with the main partners. institutions, it will also be important to create an international coordination platform that will first of all assess damage from the destruction on the basis of such assessments, it will be necessary to prepare a reconstruction plan , it is obvious that the ukrainian government should do this but then this plan will have to be adopted by the main partners and the main sources of funding, after that it will be necessary to have close coordination during the implementation of reconstruction projects we will need to agree on common rules and procedures, the ukrainian government should create a very serious monitoring mechanism, it will monitor the implementation of reconstruction projects and finally the ukrainian government should also create an instrument that would ensure open reporting and sound financial management, since at stake will be

hundreds of billions, the ukrainian government must convince the funding sources of international partners that it spends these funds in the best possible way. it must convince international partners to invest in the reconstruction of ukraine. all this can be done. because before we were already involved in the reconstruction of the balkan countries, we took part in many post-conflict situations. we know what needs to be done. and i have no doubts that the political leadership of ukraine will take all necessary measures in order to implement this program very seriously, and we all thank our european friends for the necessary help that we receive from them, mr. wingareli, how strong is the russian lobby among european politicians today, and is it possible to weaken its influence now? the russian lobby in western europe

is extremely strong and effective for this there are several reasons, firstly, the russian disinformation ecosystem is incredibly effective with tools such as the rush tudey satellite and social media that the putin regime was able to spread lie and manipulate information in western european countries, very, very many people in western europe do not understand the judges of the putin regime, they do not even know that there is no political position in russia at all, they do not know that the putin regime does not accept the sovereignty of its neighbors, such as belarus, ukraine, moldova , georgia, armenia, they they do not know that in such countries as the central african republic and other small countries putin's regime uses mercenaries, for example from the wagner group, to commit atrocities , they do not know where, i repeat again the russian disinformation tools are extremely ineffective, for example, you should know that

many people in the western european political class are still convinced that the orange revolution of 2004 in ukraine was inspired mainly by the united states of america, russian mass media convinced a number of people in western european countries that when in 2013, the maidan revolution and dignity began in ukraine, this happened mostly due to the intervention of western countries, many people still believe that after the collapse of the soviet union in 1991 nato and the european union humiliate russia, all these narratives are spread by the russian disinformation ecosystem and, unfortunately, we could not oppose anything in this ideological struggle. this is the first reason, the second is that russia simply bribed a lot of western political leaders in countries such as austria and there are france, you

know that many leading countries are members of the supervisory boards of various russian companies, one of the examples of which everyone knows is the former chancellor of germany, gerhard schröder, but in austria, france and italy also has many politicians who are in the same situation. they receive salaries from russian companies that are close to the kremlin and they actually spread and support russian influence in western european countries. we should also remember this. and in western europe there are many intellectuals who believe that russia as a world actor has the right to have its own sphere of influence and that it is therefore quite acceptable that russia limits the sovereignty of ukraine, georgia and moldova, although these people do not express such opinions openly, but speaking the european union and the united states must take into account russia's security interests, they say that we must understand the fact that 25 million ethnic russians live outside of russia, and that russia

must take care of these people in ukraine, in georgia, in transnistria, in the baltic states, in kazakhstan, they are for with the help of history, they explain that russia has the right to be interested in what is happening in ukraine, georgia and armenia. they are looking for different ways to justify russia's interference in the political life of its neighbors, that is why the european union together with the united states must explain that this does not correspond to the basic principles of our security architecture, it is unacceptable to violate the territorial integrity of a sovereign state, and all these countries must respect the sovereign choice of independent states such as ukraine, this also applies to belarus , moldova, georgia. but for this, a lot will need to be done. already said putin's regime is now much more effective than western european countries thank you very much mr. mingarelli for today this was the last question question thank you for your

thoughts for your comments and thank you to the european union for all the help and support we receive from them during the war with russia thank you very much and thank you very much for inviting me to this discussion glory to ukraine glory to the heroes thank you well, i will remind you that as usual every week well-known people from europe are on skype. well, i want to and i ask them about what is currently being said in europe about the events of the war that russia started on february 24 of this year and how they are helping us today. of the european union in ukraine in 2016-2019 and he told us showed told us the inner kitchen of the european union and what is

happening there now. role in the formation of statehood became the southern center of the ukrainian revival during the great terror , the nkvd shot almost thousands of people for nationalism, and the kherson branch of the oun led by bohdan bandera was actively fighting against the german invaders, because an angry kherson citizen will go out against the enemy column with bare hands, but will not bow down to the occupier. kherson is unconquered. we continue our information marathon . in particular, we will talk uh for us uh

international aspects of sounding uh russian-ukrainian war valery klychok political and economic expert head of charity fund nova dear, we are in touch with you, sky, we remember mr. valeriy. greetings to each other, friends. greetings. well, let's start. hm. i apologize. i didn't want the diplomatic scandal that broke out between ukraine and hungary this weekend. let us remind you that the speaker of the hungarian parliament, laszlo kevers, said that in the president of ukraine zelenskyi has mental problems, the hungarian publication 444 reports that what keveri actually said is that zelenskyi's determination is his rhetoric, which sometimes turns quite harshly to partners with the demand to help ukraine in defense and armaments. psychological problems because, as this hungarian parliamentarian claims, he actually needs help,

he should politely ask for it, not demand or threaten, so the speaker of the hungarian parliament saw it and added that the hungarian minority may have to leave ukraine after the war. well, today we see an action from the office the deputy chairman of the president of ukraine responded to the statement of the speaker of the parliament of hungary and wrote a harsh message in his siege in which he criticized the official, called him an unfit politician and mentioned the fascist dna and the extermination of ukh ukrainians in chernihiv region by the hungarian nazis during the second world war, sibiga published his post on his personal facebook page, mr. valery, i would like to hear your assessment. there are aspects to this story, and, of course, we are now concerned about what lies ahead, the 15th, well, the middle of june so when are we to receive

a conclusion from the european commission regarding ukraine's readiness to apply for candidate status in the european union , how can this actually be a diplomatic scandal it is possible to influence or not influence the conclusions of the european commission. and what do you think about this? it is an exchange of courtesies. in fact, the hungarians are really surprising and indignant with the whole world. their current policy towards ukraine is the blocking of sanctions. here is a rational grain, i ask for your word, thank you for the question, it is quite difficult to find a recipe now , the restoration of normal or, well, it has not been restored, it is probably the finding of normal relations with hungary they have a very long history, you even cancer was made during the second world war and, of course

, against the background, well, again, we also have a precedent against the background of not very simple relations with poland, today we managed to find a common language, so i do not rule out that in the future, when the politicians in power will be conscious in hungary, we will be able to build a dialogue in a different way, unfortunately, today there is no such category of unconscious politicians in hungary. and indeed, the name of keber today flew all over ukraine, not by chance, and the reaction is quite, well, let's say so, well, at least in my circle communication, those who read me support the opinion that it is, well, idiocy of the highest order for the speaker of the parliament to make such statements, however, for the general situation, you need to understand the position of hungary , and well, everyone understands. to its paradigm and very openly plays with russia, i do not rule out that there are certain separate agreements

regarding the division of the european union, which was actually written about, for example, yesterday in the cnn edition, where in particular they mentioned the negotiations that are ongoing today between by the united states of america, great britain and the leaders of european countries regarding the end of the war in ukraine and the really difficult situation that has developed for europe, it is the war in ukraine that has created a difficult situation for them, it has led to a certain split both in the north atlantic nato allies and in the european union, but hungary is is such a factor in the instability of the european union, and here it would be very important for me, for example, if more precisely , well, not only me, i would be pleased, it would be really important for the european union to understand the nature of this schism. and here are some other positions, because you can throw as much as you want the politicians of korban kever for today , let's also remember that there are many such

characters, but the problem is where the problem is - ukrainians , in my opinion, in the very in the very principles of the organization of the european union, which over time, uh, became such that they were not acceptable for low countries. well, today, for example, the problem with relations is always one of poland and the same european union. have seen, at least i have not seen in detail the sixth package of sanctions, only the official press release and there are exceptions for hungary, for bulgaria, for the czech republic, for slovakia, and so on and so on, that is, there are serious problems within the european, so expect some quick positive at the nearest tvs today's decision regarding the possibility of granting the candidate status of eu members to ukraine . the evidence is good that the office of the president and the ministry of foreign affairs, that there is a reaction from the spokesman, are adequate to that plan, that such a thing

cannot be kept silent. well, hungary actually today is playing along with putin, who yesterday in an interview with the russian tv channel russia-1 said that he would intensify the shelling of ukraine, which we actually saw this morning, if weapons continue to arrive in ukraine, they cannot but continue not to arrive, they cannot not not arrive, this is an accomplished fact. other countries have a rather serious constitution on the issue of supply. therefore, this all indicates, personally, that in the future, world events around the distribution of harpliv and everything else will unfold according to various scenarios, which today will not be easy to predict, but at least the problem areas are already emerging, over which the bureaucrats and the usa, the uk, mentioned yes, although they are members of the european union, they still work because the main question that the problem is facing the eu today is the

energy component, in which part it was allowed a colossal number of mistakes behind it, or at least the same third energy package, which was falsified a long time ago and which led to a serious imbalance of financial tensions, that is, there was an extraction between the countries of the european union of resources that they could get, that is, not in equal distribution, this causes they have a serious dispute. unfortunately, we return to the approach to the origin of this problem, which is finance without finance, because of course there are objections when, uh, single rules lead to the fact that some countries are developing faster, more powerful, and the other is slower. well, in the end, the wrong policy is inconsistent. i believe that the previous series of germany led to a serious imbalance of energy resources and today's statements about the allocation of additional hundreds of billions of euros. i apologize for green energy, for energy market reform, this is a good thing,

good statements, but it takes some time, here when i have a dream, you ask how it will be in theory, a complex problem, how quickly and europeans will solve it, well, today there was a statement about reducing the dependence of his commissioner on russian gas and generally abandoning it is very correct, a good statement, the only thing i wanted to see is practical steps in the future, how they will be drawn up in the time period, because following expert assessments of specialists this media component, they are simply reacting today with the eu that the speed of decisions in this context they will not be able to leave because europe's dependence on russian gas in last year there was only 155 billion cubic meters, they received this approximately 45% of the gas market, the total energy dependence of the european union on oil, coal and gas last year was 25% of europe, and this is a very large, powerful number. moreover,

the negotiations that we would like to do, for example, with the same pike perch to the united states of america, they have not yet determined in time what is meant by the diversification of the energy supply source, so this whole discussion, in my opinion, boils down to what way they will be able to ensure sustainability a social issue that is formed in the first place by the provision of energy services, this is the number one problem europe is working on diplomatic uh, i'm the only one that well, i understand that this is this looks like a really good answer but that's why it's called the language of diplomacy surely diplomats don't always descend to some level let's say market

quarrels and if we analyze the answer that andrii gave to himself a, whom i respect very much and in principle know since my student years, even and i have no doubts about his diplomatic skills and the same thing that we can also hear from the official representative nikolayenko of the ukrainian ministry of foreign affairs. this can all be reduced to a very simple formula. he's a fool. well, it's real. that is , it's even a stupid quote. you can see from the chatter whether it's a direct quote or not, while nikolayenko advised his own family to undergo a medical examination. examination of your certificate but in fact, if you simply put the statement of the speaker of the hungarian parliament back into context, it came down to the fact that if zelensky considers hungary and other countries of the european union to be allies, then perhaps his tone, a demanding tone, could be more let's say so

polite and less so rude, well, in fact, it was about this and in response to this, we respond only by increasing the degree of rudeness. i understand that this is a completely natural reaction, but on the other hand, do we not think that hungary is and should remain an ally of ukraine, and in many ways we really need support in the matter of continuing the approval of the next package of sanctions and the implementation , including of the sixth package, and in the matter of supporting hungary in relation to the future accession of ukraine to nato, we all really want this in the matter also the granting of membership to ukraine , the e-e status candidate is applying for 14 to the european union, your question , explanation and interpretation, is absolutely logical.

if we were talking about peacetime, it would be true, if there was no hot phase of a large-scale russian-ukrainian war outside, then it would be true. then you could speak under the current conditions, mentioning the points listed with you alone, if we take the sixth package of blocking sanctions, it was constantly carried out by hungary she stood in the locomotive more and more frequently, confirmation statements are being heard. so far, there is no. regarding the exclusion of patriarch kirill from the list of personal sanctions , i will also appreciate the initiatives of hungary and many more examples can be given, for example, dependence on hungary is the same as slovakia in matters of oil production of petroleum products. this is an insult to the whole people. i don't understand if this is just good rhetoric. it can be full of statements. it runs a little bit. we need to be more careful with the one with the fascist dna. well, i think that this is exactly what well. diplomats need to be more careful with this because this is what

our ally is saying once again. do we really care? look, i just don't agree that this is a response to a group plan to a personal accusation because when sibiga he is talking about fascist dna, which is an extremely sharp statement, without a doubt. he is talking about this specific person whom he calls an under-politician and emphasizes in his statement that actually , if we talk about the hungarians themselves, he is expressing his hope that ukrainians