150 and 300 km range is logical, but in principle, in 10 days there will be a new meeting of the rammstein groups, what do you think, will there be an increase in the number of weapons, will there already be votes that we have given too much, there are huge problems with how russia will react see these are these meetings they let's say yes correcting a-ah they well here we are they receive interim reports from the ukrainians from the ukrainian side usually those parties want to see how their weapons are used, how effective are they, did their weapons hit what is now in ukraine there e-e in the hands the russians, is it not destroyed, if it is destroyed, what help is needed in the restoration, what shells are needed, and besides, the europeans and the americans are also how cynical it doesn’t sound, they are testing their weapons on ukrainian territory, they are getting feedback there and watching. yes, this was

normal, we predicted it here are the shortcomings. we need to improve this weaponry there, and i am sure that as a result of such meetings we will receive more weapons in principle, so uh, you allow the possibility that the possibility will be unlocked the supply of ukrainian grain that we will be able to unblock our ports is it all the same and will it remain a conversation at the level of the kremlin that it is our own fault that we mined everything and now to clear the mines and it is better to send it through belarus what is the task of moscow, the task of moscow i see it in this way they emphasized repeatedly, first of all, that they are making agreements. that is, they say, ok, we agree to provide these corridors. let the ukrainians clear the mines with this. they are sowing a certain misunderstanding among europeans, and the europeans say, well, look. well, the russians are like normal, right? the guys over there look at the offer themselves, maybe let’s

negotiate with them. and i also see the game of the russians, they offer now to the ukrainians to clear the mines, you can grain, everything is fine, but they, uh, bring their sufficient ships to this water area, they are walking in a row in the bushes somewhere, that is, what is the logic? well i see it, we are now demining it, there is one barge, two barges of grain, and then the russians use it to see how they leave, they see this er, let’s say, a safe path cleared of mines and they can simply use it for an invasion attempt from of the sea to the odesa region. thank you, mr. ivan, for this conversation. it is very interesting. when is the case? bilyk of the security service of ukraine stated to the verkhovna rada committee on national security ivan stupak, who is a military expert of the institute of the future. she was on the air. and now my next interlocutor is the former deputy minister for temporary occupied territory former head of luhansk e-e he is based on this

this civil administration and the head of the volunteer group people's rear georgy tuka congratulations to see you good day to you vitali so angels, let's try to understand what is happening in the north donetsk area, a few days ago they said that the russians already control 85% of the place, now they say that the ukrainians have launched a counterattack, that they have already recaptured part of the city's territory, that half of the city is already half of the russians, there are still chances to completely occupy the city, and we have completely recaptured it what is the situation in general? well, i absolutely agree. this is exactly how it is presented in the information space, and the rather complex situation that exists now really exists in north donetsk , first of all, we must never forget that street fights - these are quite difficult battles, it is probably still fair to say that if we are talking about the insurance - the direct use of combat military

units, i mean what is called in the people the infantry, then these are the most difficult, so of course it is a life hack that is a success, then on one of the guards heard information that at first the russians were only on the outskirts of north donetska, then there was information that they already control almost 80% of the city. push back the enemies, i communicate almost every day with our guys who are currently working in the luhansk region, but i want to warn

you right away. i am exactly the same as you, in order to obtain information from the first sources and the mass media, according to my data and, let's say, my observations, one must always treat official sources of information with a certain with skepticism, and i emphasize that this is absolutely normal, because each of the pages during the war, under any circumstances, tries to negate the achievements or successes of the opposite side, and this is a characteristic of any war in the world. they are annexing quickly, as they think they will hold this referendum on joining there, in principle, it can be about this , and here there is an even more interesting question,

will the question be immediately raised about the joining of the so-called lpr to the russian federation a, together with the so-called dpr, because the progress of the russian invaders on the territory of the donetsk region is much more modest than in the luhansk region, and at the same time there is a rather interesting question of the second order, whether they will not want to unite all the currently captured territories in the south and east, announce everything it is the so-called novorossia and from the thesis of novorossia already introduce two probable scenarios or the recognition of this so-called under the cover of novorossia, just as they recognized the quasi-formation of the lpr or even the accession of this so-called

the territory called novorossiya to the russian federation, so far i cannot say that it is much more than that tomorrow, the day after tomorrow , to expect any radical actions in this direction , from my point of view, no, but the fact, for example, that on the territory of the occupied settlements of the zaporozhye and donetsk regions, it is from the kherson region so far, i have not received such information. children in schools are given notebooks and they try to sign them. and how is the russian federation, and sometimes even the rostov region, well, this is evidence of such certain people here. although unofficial, but still certain processes that testify to the real intentions of the invaders. i think that they are still determined to join the occupied territories to the russian federation. what

is the volunteer community doing now ? times, everyone told me that there is nothing new. unfortunately, i did not tell. and i can only testify that it does not exist, but you can take a list of any areas of activity, and for today, unfortunately i emphasize, unfortunately, there is not a single direction in which we can say with satisfaction that in this direction all the needs of our defenders have already been e-er clarified and arranged and in this direction all the issues have already been closed, in fact there is not one, i emphasize from the directions the most e-e such let's say that a successful direction of our activity is the work with our american partners, which consists in the centralized supply of ambulances

, about 3-4 weeks ago we delivered three vehicles as a pilot project the americans reacted to this very successfully, they really liked the algorithm that i proposed to them, and it concerns the fact that the transfer of property is carried out directly from the donor to the recipient, that is, bypassing any state intermediary structures in the form of three or three civilian administrations or some ministries, departments of the armed forces the formations, moreover, did not even ride together directly at the front, the americans liked it very much. when they returned back to the united states, they shuffled a short distance time, we found a lot of people willing to be donors in such and such a project, and the night before yesterday,

when i last spoke with our partners, there was already talk of 100 cars. from my point of view, this is a rather large-scale project, and i sincerely believe that how do the americans deal with their business and how will it be implemented? if we talk about what is happening to the ukrainians of luhansk oblast, on the one hand, people are being deported, on the other hand, they are being mobilized, on the third hand, they are expelling them, what is happening to the residents of the region? in fact, if you take these three theses, yes, you can, well , in one word, it’s a mess, because there is no logic in it, as if there is no way to see it, on the one hand, they really mobilize those who catch people, moreover, this also applies to residents of the so -called, well, new occupied territories. unfortunately no matter

how unfortunate it may be, at the same time it is absolutely true that there are facts when the russians from the occupied territories displace residents, in fact, under coercion, under the pressure of weapons, forcing them to be deported to the territory of the russian federation during such women and children are subjected to deportation quite often, and children are subject to forced resettlement, and men , during such filtering measures, they still try to drag men into the ranks of illegal armed formations as part of the russian armed forces. there are some humane attitudes in general, it is not even worth thinking about it, but from my point of view, in the information space of our country, a huge gap is

that we do not inform and do not tell to the residents of the territories that are under threat of possible occupation, we do not tell in detail about the danger to which these people are exposed if they remain in the territories that may experience the fact of occupation. well, for example, in north donetsk, a certain number of people still remain for various reasons, some are sincerely waiting for the arrival of the russian world , some really have nowhere to go, some do not even have the courage to, some decided to just wait it out. circumstances are different for people, but the fact that mostly, most of these people are not really aware of the danger to which they themselves are leaving themselves with their stubborn actions. and from my point

of view, in this direction, the mass media , first of all, if the government is completely inactive in this context and is firmly doing it, then the mass media need more to inform people about the danger they expose themselves to, well, this is an important thing, how many people in these territories in general do they have access to information, it’s a good thing to say if there is no electricity and if there is no mobile communication. and if there is no such thing, how do you see how people live there, i will not enumerate it now, just so that they waste air time. i agree, vitaly. it lasts for more than one day, but take for example the same severodonetsk , the fighting around severodonetsk started more than two weeks ago, and

there was too much time for making a decision and for more or less safe conditions for the evacuation and the local administration did everything depending on it in order to ensure this process, but the civilians , residents of the city, they largely dragged themselves to the end, and someone decided to stay there until now, our government does not have a mechanism to forcibly force people to ukraine, and they put themselves in danger including my own children, which is simply terrible. unfortunately, i am the head of the civil administration in the 14th district of luhansk oblast, and i could not understand the logic of the behavior of such people, but there were a lot of facts. thank you mr. georgy, we were in touch with the former head of the luhansk military-civilian

administration, the founder and head of the volunteer group people's tik tyl, georgy duka, thank you once again for participating in this broadcast, let's talk now about what will happen to international security for of ukraine and we are in touch with volodymyr vasylenko, doctor of law, professor of the national university of kyiv-mohyla academy, ambassador extraordinary and plenipotentiary of ukraine, former special representative of ukraine to radion for human rights. hello, mr. volodymyr greetings mr. greetings well, let 's try to understand what will happen with this anti-putin coalition in general, we already talked about this on our broadcast today at the beginning of the first hour, but let's end this hour with some considerations because you know on the one hand on the other hand, on the one hand, there is a desire to help the country, on the other hand , russia cannot be humiliated, on the one hand, we must supply weapons to russia, on the other hand, ukraine does not have these weapons to shoot at russia, on the one hand,

negotiations with putin are impossible, on the other hand, without the negotiations will end the war and you know i'm a political analyst, i'm tired morally, i don't know , maybe you're doing better with this and with the psyche vitaliy, i sympathize with you thank you because there is really a lot of speculation in general around the topic of russian aggression against ukraine and all these proposals how to get out of this situation and so on. i believe that we should realistically assess the situation and the reasons that led to today 's violations of law and order by putin's russia and here somehow well cunning

maneuvers and hesitations and attempts to pacify putin and putin's leadership and the leadership of russia cannot help but do because these hesitations of the west are not decisive measures to take adequate adequate steps to counteract russia's attempts to violate the international legal order. they only encouraged russia and she continued to violate the international legal order, the international law of general peace and international security, so today if we want to achieve the desired result of the desired result - this is the restoration of the violated legal order, this is a collapse putin's regime, and this is bringing russia to

justice in accordance with the design and recognized norms of international law, only in this way we can solve the problem of international security for everyone . -e carried out five acts of aggression, the first, the first war of aggression - two fleeting wars against moldova, march, july, 1992, against georgia, august, 2008, two long wars in chechnya, december, 94, august, 96 then march 99, april 2019, and now the fifth war against ukraine, a large-scale

international conflict of great intensity that threatens to be transferred to the third world war, so these are episodes, some kind of coincidence in the functions no, this is a regularity in order to end this regularity, it is necessary to create the anti-putin coalition, which some already exist, only needs to be formalized, the exact goals and specific prices of this coalition must be defined and work to achieve these bodies, this is the only way out putin putin is hitler today hitler hated jews and that's why it's just a holocaust. putin hates ukrainians and that's why he wants to grow the ukrainian nation and eliminate the independent

ukrainian state. and here we must rely on the experience of the past, the same thing hitler did. he, uh, he , uh, grossly violated international law, the international legal order, invaded other states, committed international crimes during hostilities, and then the western democracies created an anti-hitler coalition, this happened in washington january 1, 1942 is exactly the anniversary of 80 years ago and uh, january 13, 42 britain adopted the london declaration on the inevitability of punishing hitler's war criminals in this way, and

they also played their role in organizing the victory over hitler's germany. this is the only way to move, which allows us to hope for success and e- building the restoration of law and order and the restoration of the system that will provide security for everyone. do you believe in the peace-making efforts of the so-called president, udagan is trying to do something to withdraw ukrainian grain, is negotiating with the russians in italy, i am not, well, these attempts are, well, attempts with unworthy means, you understand the fact is that, unfortunately, individual leaders will speak like this, individual

leaders of individual members of the international community still hope that putin is a civilized leader of a civilized state and it is possible to negotiate with him in accordance with the rules that exist in the world, which are recorded in the un charter, there is even an international document, but then it is not the same person and the regime in general, the regime that exists in russia is not the regime that they pretend to be do they want to act in accordance with international law, do they even act in accordance with international law, in fact they violate it and they mock the leaders of the western countries who sit behind them at the negotiating table with them, the leaders, so to speak

, gaining time in order to build the empire to strengthen such armed forces and resort to new adventures. this is the algorithm of actions you will take. well, no, no , these are not empty words, they are confirmed by practice, you understand, and attempts to pacify putin and russia, peacemaking, they are of no use they don't despise the good, turning a blind eye to what is happening also doesn't give anything. look, there were two in chechnya. russia unleashed two terrible wars in the chechen republic, the chechen republic, and these russian armed forces committed genocide in chechnya. the world was silent, ukraine was silent. by the way, what we we have, we now have aggression against ukraine and the same

actions and represent the genocide of the ukrainian nation , that is, after if putin succeeds . then because of poland, finland, the baltic states, the same moldova and so on, it will work. read putin's speeches in which he says that russia, not being defeated in the first world war, suffered unfair territorial losses and the borders of the russian empire were narrowed. and what is this it means that it means that the unfair losses were

that poland, finland, and the baltic states became independent states, which means that in order to correct the injustice, it is necessary to conquer their territory. that's all. well, take the memorandum that putin's diplomacy presented to the united states of america at the end of the 21st year, which the russian press characterized as putin's ultimatum, where it was said that nato can not be expanded to the east although it did not expand too much to the east, and the eastern european states considered becoming nato members voluntarily without any coercion, and there it was determined that what you said , the demand to restore was to restore the status quo

as of 1997, when the expansion began and the list included 14 states on the territory of which the status quo must be restored. that is, 14 goals of russia's future aggression have been determined, and the most dangerous thing is that the russian propaganda machine works so powerfully that the population of russia is so processed that they support and support the putin regime. is this regime and the vast majority of the population agreed after the conquest of ukraine that poland should be

conquered , the baltic states and other states? to look for ways to satisfy putin's crimea or to preserve his face, this is not possible , he himself destroyed his face, distorted his faces and his images, and so on. it is not right now they live even more decisive actions to counter russian aggression today ukraine is alone waging an armed struggle a struggle on the battlefield its others well gratitude

for our allies help us and thank god that they are helping, but the long war they are planning today putin was planning a blitzkrieg, now he is planning a long war, a war to exhaust ukraine, and it is a great sin, and it means to the western countries that they are delaying the provision of effective aid to ukraine, and if they are in the future, they will delay and not sanctions will be expanded to such a scale that when the putin regime falls, because it is because of the fact that the longer the fate of the putin regime continues, the more ukrainian blood will be shed, the country will be destroyed, and this is again from

from the point of view of western civilizational values, this is a game against rights, and, unfortunately, among the leaders of western countries today, there are not people of the churchillian type who perfectly understood nature in the regime. by the way, reagan called the soviet union in due time, empires, let's stop at this, mr. volodymyr, we are already approaching the end of this dialogue of ours, but we will definitely return to it, thank you, thank you, volodymyr vasylenko, doctor of law, professor of the national university of kyiv, mohyla academy, was with us in touch in this part of our conversation and we will continue after the news the conversation about the west about what is

happening in the relations between western countries and ukraine , how come this position is winning. please, iryna , will acquaint you with the current news release