look at what she calls this rotten collective event against which she is fighting. she is not fighting with us, she is fighting with the west. this is how it is served in russian e-e for ordinary russians . of the package of sanctions that have just been adopted for russia, now it will be more difficult and when the president of the united states says that one way or another ukraine will have to sit at the table, i will be called negotiations at the table, we will have to sit at the table. by the way, we have already sat at the table with russia, if you think there is such a lavrov, he calls himself the minister of foreign affairs, he told istanbul that we did not attack ukraine at all, look at that, one way or another. when moscow will see that moscow is ready to put something

adequate on the other side of the table for consultation, that will hear us, then ukraine will decide er, is it worth sitting down with that, uh, is it not worth sitting down with that, but it will be when ukraine fulfills the main task that stands at the current stage of the war, and this is, uh, inflicting a military defeat on putin 's troops in ukraine and liberating our territory. i see it this way and i think that it is in such paradigms that what the president of the united states of america says about this should be considered." but

we already see at least the strategy, this is the failure of some doubt, how will it all end, well, it will not be the soviet union-2, it will be the soviet union-2, a complete fiasco, well, that is, the end of the soviet union-2, the end, oh, mr. igor, please tell me your correct answer the statement that russia will stop, well, in view of this sixth package of sanctions that you have already mentioned, in view of the fact that we will win in the fields battles of the russian aggressor, it is more correct to say that russia will stop where it will be stopped, or will it stop at some point because it will not be able to go further on its own. the first part is definitely that it will stop only where it is stopped . the surprise of the whole

world is the second, more complex part of creating such conditions under which russia will no longer be able to do what it is doing against ukraine, and this may not be so noticeable part of the war this is another a front is a front - it's the same sanctions again, i call it an economic outpost, that is, so that russia does not have physical capabilities, it is not meant to be cannon fodder in russia well, that's enough for now, but this cannon fodder must fight with something. and to fight for something, for some, for some, you have to buy it with something to fight for. so, the second part of this war, this front is a large sanctioned

one. to the ruling e-e-e in this ssbeshno means the clan it will not be that it is unprofitable for russia, but it will be impossible to continue such a policy, and when that time comes, you know, uh, one of my good colleagues who directly deals with this issue said that sanctions are an invisible weapon of slow action, and we really need to consider it. yes, what is it, i can mention many historical examples. but it is often quoted that to win a war, you need money , money, and money again, here are the three answers. yes, exactly

. on this front, soon enough soon soon. till the end of the year it will definitely be noticeable not only to the government of this cage of putin, but also to many ordinary many tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of ordinary russians, it will be noticeable that something is going wrong and the picture on the tv it does not quite correspond to what is happening around and here is exactly this it's an economic joke, he can to some extent answer the second part of your question , when russia will stop, it's hard to predict now, because russian history is full of such examples when something like that suddenly happened. what's going on in russia? suddenly the attention shifted from the fact that they are beating the people of bender or what they call us... suddenly , they have something there that cannot be missed. and here

we are together with our partners together with the world that understands the danger, the global threat that today carries putin's regime, we are working precisely to ensure that such a time, when russia will look and understand, stop further, it is not possible for it to come as soon as possible. well, let's hope that it will come as soon as possible, mr. igor. well, the next question is for you, only for you, because you are you. is really the kind of person who will be able to give him an answer, look, er, a few days ago, not a few days, a week more than a week ago, it became known that the united states of america appointed and sent envoys to ukraine, finally, because for a very long time we did not have such the ambassador was temporarily charged with the charge of christina quinn, now it will be brigitte bring. please tell me and our viewers why it is so important that ukraine

will have an ambassador and not a temporary charge of affairs of the united states of america in ukraine, it is very important that there should always be an ambassador in the country, because an ambassador is a person. rather, it is not a person, it is a function, it is a state within a state, it is a representative of the state and the state. everything that the ambassador says is the same thing that the united states of america says in the voice of the ambassador. therefore, a temporary representative is always possible. well, let's say yes . this already shows the technique internally, but it is possible to comment on the ambassador in a different way.

the head of state that sent this ambassador, i ask you to believe him, as it is an old diplomatic tradition for me , but this phrase is still present in the poem and letters, and this is what ambassador brin will say, this is what the united states of america, the country of ukraine, today in the war against ukraine used all types of weapons except slava for god's sake, one that we will remember so far, uh, has uh, the moscow regime has in its arsenal, the american ambassador was controlled a few weeks ago, now she has returned, now the whole ambassador has come to kyiv, and this despite the fact that in kyiv continue to launch missile strikes, it shows how strong the trust and understanding

of the possibility of this mission is, that an entire ambassador arrives in kyiv, which is a front zone in one way or another, and works and conveys the right message from the government of the united states of america, so i would not underestimate it this event is extremely important for all those ambassadors who also work in kyiv. i don't remember how many of us now have an embassy working in kyiv. about a week ago i saw that it was under 40, but thank god it's just those who understand that we go to right direction and should not receive news from the first sources let's say to inform your government, therefore i sincerely congratulate the new american ambassador to ukraine and also congratulate colleagues in the diplomatic corps of those countries who are

currently present on the territory of ukraine in kyiv in my native kyiv thank you i didn't underestimate you, i just asked you because you could explain it. this is how you explained why it is so important for ukraine that the ambassador of the united states of america will be here and this ambassador will be it was in kyiv that i thank you, mr. igor, as always, very professional comments. you helped me understand many issues. i would like to remind you that i was in touch with ihor kharchenko, diplomat extraordinary and plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine. thank you, mr. igor. well, we talked about very important topics , in particular, and i would like to remind you once again that there was information published by a russian publication and there are connections that ukraine and russia, with the mediation of turkey, reached an agreement on the export of ukrainian grain from the blockaded by muscovites odesa port, that turkish warships will enter ukrainian coastal waters and

escort ukrainian boats with cargo to neutral waters, and then russian warships will accompany them to the bosphorus, we will wait for confirmation of this, in particular, from the ukrainian side and from the turkish side, mr. ihor boyak said with whom i just spoke, to the end believe the russian propagandists even if they did not submit it with reference to reliable or unknown sources in the kremlin, we still will not, but the fact remains as a fact i will tell you well, we are moving on to further discussion of international issues and my next interlocutor is volodymyr dubovyk, director of the center for international studies at the department of international relations of the mechnikov odesa national university. greetings, mr. volodymyr. good afternoon. greetings. i am glad to see you again on the air. the program should be followed during the war but as i always say, soon we will win and return to the usual format of the international

review with yuri phys and i will also be glad to have you to see you on those broadcasts, but for now we are talking about the world during the war, mr. volodymyr, the washington post wrote about the fact that recently, again with reference to own sources, that recently the president of the united states of america, joe biden, has to appease the european allies who they are trying to convince ukraine to somehow negotiate with putin, but he managed to do it, and they refer to the fact that well, he is this one. he is somehow one of those who convinced them to adopt such a sixth package of these anti-russian sanctions, well, that is, taking into account all of this. you can say that it will be harder to convince in the future . the united states and

great britain themselves replaced themselves with more powerful and such decisive support, so the europeans are different here. by the way, they are also not to be compared to, and there is more such a hawk and she is tougher towards russia and persistent from the point of view support for ukraine, but there are also those who are waiting for the moment to stop everything and provide weapons to ukraine and make peace with russia and lift sanctions and so on. and that is why washington has been working with european partners for a long time. by the way, it started working long before february 24 from the very beginning of the concentration of this accumulation of russian troops since the end of october . last year, we already know that there were many different meetings in washington with various key european capitals. and where the americans prepared their own diplomats and sent people from various ministries of departments to europe to the key capitals to prepare that package of sanctions, so it can be said that if there had been no preparatory work, then two people in february, we would have been

pondering for a long time after that what kind of sanctions in which term is different and now i continue to work with a european partner and to convince them that it is necessary to support ukraine, it is another matter here that there is already a certain discussion going on in washington itself regarding the limits to which ukraine should reach, or whether there is any limit to how much it is possible to help it. came at the moment when the ukrainians need to sit down at the negotiating table or not, they still need to be fought over and then we will have a better negotiating position, such discussions are also taking place in the american political environment, and in particular in the white house, and there are different points of view on whether to continue pushing ukraine to that there would be such a decisive defeat of russia. is it still better not to do this, but simply children of a certain moment for a long time when it is possible to say to the ukrainians well, it is okay to sit down with the russians right then and there to start negotiations, that is, in washington is also told that it is not necessary to humiliate putin. for example, the

president of france, manuel macro, said this. well, they say it not out loud . we don't want the total defeat of russia we don't want this humiliation of russia but we just want to leave russia weaker so that it can no longer continue its aggression against ukraine well, by the way, i wanted to talk about this article with you, but a little later, since you are already talking about she was remembered please tell me the positions of president biden in it. you expressed these strong positions. if we talk about ukraine, and so does nino, as for the fact that he did not mention the territorial integrity of ukraine, this income is still a bit unfortunate, because usually americans talk about it. every time they talk about ukraine and mentioned the negotiations several times. yes, and also said that we do not want to fight against russia directly and that we do not want regime change in russia. that is, this is such an explanatory

moment and why you did not write this article to to calm down a little those who in america are very worried about the fact that america is getting involved too much in the whole war, that it could still lead to a direct collision with russia, but you see, there is already such a hint by the ukrainian that we need to negotiate somewhere, but on the other side of it 100 people in the administration do not understand that ukraine still needs to receive dividends from these types of weapons that are now to be sent to us, and after that, increase the powerful negotiating positions and start negotiating already. look, you said that this is an article more on such a domestic consumer in order to reassure the domestic consumer, but the article obviously concerned ukraine in many respects. it reassured, or with, or somehow made them more wary . slogans about russia, i.e., those times when it was there a

month or so ago when secretary of state blinken and secretary of defense austin said that the main goal now for america is to weaken he said to russia that ukraine will win and must win , will win this war. they don't say that anymore . washington doesn't say that anymore. well, uh, i think there are certain camps. there is no serious division in the administration, of course . which are usually attributed to the same blinkin, there are more such uh well, for peace negotiations for a diplomatic way out of this, in the end, the rest at some stage, what kind of personification of this approach is, let’s say, salvan, the president’s adviser on national security, mr. volodymyr, look at saturday, paulo genchiloni, european commissioner for energy well, the prime minister of italy once said that there could be new sanctions. and then there is his quote, but the gas barge is not being considered now, because it can greatly harm the countries of the west. how can this

be understood? that is, it is purely situational. so when we are talking about the seventh package. if it will harm our institution's interests, then you can forget about ukraine. well, of course, i paraphrased it very rudely. but can you say that? well, you can say that. what is the stop package, it is also the sixth package, it is also quite problematic here, and it was accepted for a long time and there were such objections, and i even went personally to his supervisor, he went to budapest and still did not overcome one thing in the opposition about the urban regarding the seventh gas package, so i think that really soon it cannot be expected. i have the impression that they have already reached almost the maximum of the sanctions that they were preparing to propose and introduce against russia. his interests and the same american senator rainbow, who criticized him for the fact that he blocked lend-lisa, let's say a bill about

a linguist. and then he said, look, i would take such an oath of loyalty to the american people, or to the people of ukraine, that's why i have before taking care of the american people, it is the same in europe, there are elite political governments that were elected in the elections and now they have a certain responsibility before you elected them to their citizens. it is good for us that for now the public in northern europe america is on the ukrainian side, and it actually requires its governments to do even more to help ukraine, but i already have people who say that we are giving so much to ukraine now and how much we can do, and there are some limits, there are some limits, when will we stop doing in the same america, every month it will be more and more difficult for biden to explain what tens of billions of dollars are going for in conditions when america has its own problems and the same in europe. well, let's go back to europe and in particular to those countries that they are blackmailing openly blackmailing the european union , in particular hungary, where is this power in hungary, what

is it relying on during this, what can it rely on during this blackmail, and what helps it to negotiate what it is bargaining for ? on land gas pipelines through ukraine, there is only on sea their strength, what is their strength explained in russia as a trading partner with russia, it is interesting that europe has its own power, it is such a soft power, mostly that is, some norms of value and principles, but also financial capabilities, etc., well, our main strength today is our people , who fight at the fronts, who work in the rear, and so on, that is, each of these players in this triangle, russia, euro, ukraine, has its own certain advantages and its disadvantages, but there are also limitations, you understand, in the euro in russia, and even with its crazy resources,

you may not help it at a certain stage when these sanctions will work in full, and in europe, too, values ​​and values, but sometimes the governments of the countries that i just spoke about return to such a question what and how much can we need to support ukraine , and if we have hundreds of thousands of unemployed people, what to do with it, how will there be criticism, anyway, that's why everyone knows the situation of dynamic russia here and putin is trying to write a lot about it in recent days and weeks and that he tries to sit out as usual to hold out before showing such endurance, let's say that he believes that europe and america will not be able to maintain such a course against it for too long that sooner or later they will simply give up these positions a little. let's hope not let's hope not i'm sure that russia will surrender very quickly and even its oil and gold dollars will not help to survive the sanctions that i hope i really want to

be sure that there will be a seventh package will still be introduced, mr. volodymyr, let's move on from the sanctions issues to of international security issues, and obviously about germany, an article appeared in spiegel today about germany, in which the journalists, referring to their sources, said why berlin is so drawn to supply of weapons to ukraine, we are afraid that these long-range uhm long-range weapons will be used by the ukrainians for shelling russian territory, this could be at least some kind of explanation or not, of course there could be more, the americans do n’t want this text either, because they are also afraid of this, we have heard about the fact that for several weeks they reasoned about these anti-aircraft missile systems due to the fact that their range is so powerful and they were not afraid that the ukrainians would fire on the territory of ukraine, so if in washington is more determined, there is such a fear, while berlin is more cautious, the more

so there are such restrictions and such doubts that it is necessary to give such weapons to ukraine, but i will tell you that we have such a certain tendency to such a well, a little unhealthy fixation on berlin and germany because there are other countries, many other countries, they give us weapons if they can to germany. by the way, germany has already given a lot of weapons. germany is one of the main financial donors of the ukrainian economy. it accepts ukrainian refugees, it provides humanitarian help us to deal with internally displaced persons, that is, in fact, germany is giving a lot to ukraine now. and we are always fixated on how many new tanks they will give. well, that's clear. yes, because we now have a battle for the loop here, because we want these new ones in donbas too tanks, and others, and many other things. we really need whoever writes this, but at the same time, we don’t need to fixate on the same germans. some bad people, that they betrayed us there, there are other countries. you see , spain announced at the weekend that it is ready to provide heavy weapons, spain seems

to have always had a soft position towards moscow, russia, but you see, they are ready and many other european countries outside europe provide us with weapons, the germans give us what they can, yes, they have almost revolutionized their approaches to wars and foreign policy since that time rested well, the russian mass invasion already has a lot of red lines and they simply pushed aside these taboos and crushed them, so there is no need to worry about the fact that the germans are somehow bad, they have their own political restrictions, mr. volodymyr, no i am worried that the germans are bad on the contrary. i thank them for all their help. there is simply information that i asked you to comment on the germans for the audience. yes, mr. volodymyr, and the last question for today. poland began to prepare plans for economic cooperation with ukraine after the war, the deputy said in an interview with polish radio . of the minister of finance artur sobon, this purely hypothetically could develop into some kind of union, taking into account this according to last week's statement of the prime minister of great britain, boris johnson,

the new union is some kind of analogue well, not an analogue, but another one according to the type of the european union, between there great britain, poland-ukraine, estonia, lithuania, latvia is good, first of all, i want to add briefly to the previous question. what was the reaction rather not to our question, but simply to these trends? i know the trends, what i hear and see that people are offended by germany but this is partly understandable and partly this is already such an exaggeration, and regarding your last question, i will say that mr. johnson has problems now and we know that today there will be a vote of no confidence in his government, he may not to be the prime minister for us of course it will be a problem, it will be a loss although on the other hand, in principle, the entire political elite in britain is now quite pro-ukrainian. approaches will continue to support strategic ukraine, but all the same, he has shown himself to be a very serious and consistent friend of ukraine, so it would probably be

a little bad for us regarding this new format of security, well, look, i think it is difficult in such format to understand now in the conditions of the war, it is usually better, after all, when it does not end, then they already analyze what happened, what might happen in the future and form such and such an alliance. now say that britain, poland and ukraine plus our baltic states. an effective, er, safe union, i wouldn’t say that, although the fact that there is such a willingness to take such appropriate steps is that this is not bad. this is not bad. industries, that is, now i think that we should simply intensify our relations with countries where we know we can get support in certain bilateral areas, and thank god there are still quite a few such countries, and we thank these countries . well, thank you, mr. volodymyr, for the professional answers and professional comments that

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june 14 21:45 city lutsk poland city stadium lks glory to ukraine is a program verdict my name is serhiy rudenko good day and good health to all today is the 103rd day of the heroic resistance of the ukrainian people against of the russian occupiers the armed forces of ukraine continue fierce battles in donbas heavy battles for severodonetsk maryanka krasnohorivka avdiyivka gold and mountains the enemy destroys practically everything in donbas residential buildings civil infrastructure