he says that putin must not win. well, it seems that ukraine must win or putin must not win, but in fact these are completely different things , because ah, the absence of putin’s victory is a pity, but it may mean that the black sea will be blocked in the future, kherson will be occupied in the future, and the ongoing war 1 2 3 years there is no putin victory, but there is no victory for ukraine , and we are absolutely not satisfied with this, and for the world it is an absolutely bad option, therefore our task is to unite the whole world, the free world around a clear goal, ukraine must be won by those who accepted this goal they don't have any questions about weapons anymore, and great britain itself. ukraine needs artillery for mortars. we need anti-ship missiles . to work with them is the first thing. well, the second thing is of course. to watch

and receive weapons from them, eh, now it’s such a problematic topic that tanks and tanks have become, well, let’s call them our classification and bmp apc . i am currently in berlin, but i arrived here yesterday, and for a few days i will be working directly. talking with european german politicians is not about two things . and germany's position here is one of the key ones, obviously, and the second is a weapon for ukraine. well, i'm trying to do my part at the level of parliamentary diplomacy to improve the situation here, we have to work , there is no other option, germany has already passed

a long way and this is not the germany that was before february 24, but there is still a long way to go before it becomes the germany that will be right for itself and for ukraine and for the whole world . european vice-president of the committee on migration of refugees and displaced persons has been in touch with us now, we are joining the conversation valery , the senior diplomat, the extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine, mr. valery, we congratulate you slava thank you to ukraine for once again having to talk to you on the air. explain as a diplomat what the problem is. in such a slow movement of our european partners to understand that we need heavy weapons, there are many statements, many promises, but not many weapons, with oleksiy honcharenko as an example germany, in particular, does not understand

that a victory for europe in this war means exclusively a victory for ukraine, and not just a victory for putin. is it possible? is there any other explanation, please? let's start with the fact that we you and i know very well that there are national interests of ukraine, and of course we protect them, we promote our national interests to other countries, the situation is now such that of course, everyone understands that a lot depends on the front from this confrontation on the front, including, and in such decisions, i will say one thing, the situation can change dynamically a week or a day, and now is a critical moment when somewhere everyone is forming their uh, such medium-term plans, frankly speaking, the mood now uh, is changing not in our favor because what comes, if not fatigue, is the first

getting used to the fact that the war is in the center of europe, that is, i obviously see and communicate with many hm colleagues in europe in other countries . we pay attention to germany that there are statements and we would like to receive these weapons as soon as possible, but also in france, which supplies us in principle, uh, those weapons were somehow asked at this time, now the political position is very restrained, and i would pay attention to france in the first place the situation regarding weapons is much better in my opinion than in relation to other issues. if we talk about weapons, on june 15 there will be a meeting of the third in the format of rammstein and i am sure that the decisions are joint under the leadership of the

united states. and even strengthen and give ukraine the opportunity to first of all defend itself and then be sure that no additional parts of the territory will be seized. well, it is possible to go in contrast, but it is much more difficult. many of the capitals, and even a lot needs to be done a little more about the weapons, but recently we see a lot of speculation around the numbers about the range of projectiles from some weapons, not many among europeans fear that we will allegedly use these weapons to kill on the territory of russia federation, the russian federation itself is actively fueling this thesis, in fact, well, again, it seems to me that this is about the fact that the russian federation fears that the age of the ice of their artillery shells will be inferior to the range

the summer of those weapons that will be provided to us, and this means that we will be out of range, well, our groups are for the enemy, if we talk about the gods of war, artillerymen, but they will be, so to speak, our immediate target. russia - this is obviously not suitable, it is doing everything possible for in order to fuel this thesis in the minds of eh and european eh, in particular, politicians as well, but eh, after all, here is ramstein, we witnessed such a powerful first meeting, a powerful eh, a powerful second wave of consultations, in your opinion, do they correspond the practical effects that we received on the scale of these meetings, these consultations, and this - i don't know international cooperation of any kind, if you like, if you speak frankly, then well, as you asked

the question, the answer is to imagine what will be such an anti-putian coalition of countries, not only nato, but when countries and asia and africa, which will supply ukraine with weapons and form schemes for this supply, for example, a replacement if one country supplies another and reinforces it with some other technique, it was simply impossible to imagine before, so from this point of view how the attitude has changed, this is absolutely clear . yes, i believe that these are unprecedented actions that have not happened before, but if we talk about further steps , the future, of course, every day that we are waiting there, it brings huge losses to us, but i assure you, no one in the economic format of rammstein he does not pause, that is, all these

decisions were made with too much delay, he should not have made a political decision on the first day, not a delay . definitely partners. thanks to them for everything they do, but they have united to a greater extent. and we are also in this union against the russian federation, but you know there are those who make decisions. the work of exhaustion as much as possible and in a military sense, also by the russian federation, because the offensive operations they carry out, they carry with them certain losses. i think that the loss of combat capability of the russian army is quite a long way off, but they get tired too, don't they? do you have this impression? well, it's us. we are ukrainians. we may have a lot of emotions, but i think it was the right

decision from the first day. just show russia's strength on the part of nato, and still there was no progress, but they they don't believe, they believed and they were afraid that a direct confrontation would lead to an escalation, that russia could use nuclear weapons. therefore, now there is a completely different approach. i do not completely agree with the thesis that they gave us a dirty job, this is our defense of our country. unfortunately, it turned out that way it is we who have to protect the world of russia on our territory, and that is why they would give us this job, they would not give us this, it is our simple necessity to protect ourselves, our lives will not get you anywhere . those are from

the anti-missile defense system of the ppu, well, that is, so that what was, for example, in the second world war, there was a full-scale lend-lease, or did it happen, but there is no such scale. although they, i assure you, they really do, first of all, the usa there is great britain, canada, poland, the baltic countries, the czech republic, slovakia, now bulgaria, all our neighbors who may be the next targets. they are doing everything they can now to support what they are not doing, they are not taking us under the umbrella of common protection, this is worrying because if they do not accept a political decision, after we push back the occupied territories of the russians, take us under an umbrella for protection, then the threat of war will remain not only for us, but for the whole of europe, russia will not go anywhere

there is potential in russia based on the specifics of this country, it is a dictatorial authoritarian regime that does not have democracy and therefore can send huge human forces to the front, and it is clear that the threat is in the plan that if there really is in the future full mobilization if there is propaganda on the emotional level, on the psychological level, what are your enemies doing now, then it will be already, well, ukraine-nato will not happen, that is, the collision will be much greater. therefore, now when i talk to them, i say that it is possible to strengthen ukraine now as much as possible to prevent such a situation because you cannot jump over this ditch in two jumps in my opinion but we have to be persistent now so much because it is a critical moment in fact i know this and my colleagues know it now it is

necessary to convince everyone - well, even the complex countries that are often mentioned there is that ukraine is so ready and motivated, as shown by sociological research, people see nothing but where to occupy the territory of ukraine as much as possible, that is, now it must be done in the russian ministry of foreign affairs, the head of the department said lavrov is in turkey on june 8, i.e. tomorrow they will discuss with the head of the turkish foreign ministry in february the renewal of peace talks with ukraine , the trio reports news, the term changes views on the current state of affairs in the ukrainian crisis, the prospect of the renewal of russian-ukrainian peace talks, and today the press secretary of the russian president e piskov he reacted reacted to media information about his apparent reluctance to discuss the status of the kherson and zaporizhia regions with kyiv, piskov denied

the information about russia's refusal to discuss the negotiations with ukraine, the status of the occupied parts of the zaporizhia and kherson regions, the russian interfax reported everything on june 7, to what extent peace talks on the resumption of these negotiations between ukraine and russia are now possible, whether it is possible to discuss the status of some parts of the occupied kherson and zaporizhia regions, and in general, whether there are the russians have a clear vision and their position regarding the status of these occupied parts of the kherson and zaporozhye regions, i ask. well, what we hear from the enemy is that their position has not changed they want to destroy ukraine or subjugate it under their final influence. that is, what they call denazification there, it means the destruction of everything ukrainian, and only collaborators who accept their terms of surrender can

stay here in this territory, as they think. that is, their position has not changed, that's why they want maxim, their goals are now clear, this is the occupation of the entire donbass. well, the luhansk region of the donetsk region is the occupation of the entire administrative borders of the kherson zaporozhye region. well, crimea is also the appetite for today, what are they? there is no inclusion in the composition of russia, but they will try to fix such a position of occupation. well, it is clear that this is not blood until the next big war . - still to force peace eh so far these are mainly political discussions, but there is already pressure on the president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi, he openly said about it in public, but he said that we will take the position on the side of

who p valery well, who looks into putin's eyes and says that it is not necessary to be humiliated. you know that this is also a diametrically opposite point of view. yesterday, after receiving an atom of trust from boris johnson , he noted that ukraine cannot be forced into an unfavorable peace agreement and zelensky should not, in this regard, submit to any pressure, says the prime minister the prime minister of great britain, god bless him , well, some people think that we should put up with at least on any terms, and some people think that ukraine cannot afford this. why, i don't know why, enough discussions in the world to a civilized person, it is incomprehensible to us ukrainians, at least well, what is the meaning of reconciliation? it is not even clear at all. well, at the same time, we were talking about the terbunal against fascist russia, and at the same time

we are talking about such conversations. well, why is there only one reason for this, that now, uh, not only russia is suffering from the sanctions ukraine is losing its economy even more because the russians are destroying our defense industry infrastructure. that is, it is a huge loss, but there is already an echo, obviously , in terms of fuel prices and inflation, in terms of prices for the goods of many countries of the world, it is clear that it will be soon, not soon. well, there will be a consensus that the war must be ended as soon as possible, but a common position will be formed around this. by the way, it is the same with us. they want to wait for this victory to take place, of

course, more than one month ago, they want to do it faster and here, although i am the consensus of everyone that it must be finished, it should be finished faster, by the way, and russia also sees that they have their own limits. at this stage, the invasion and not by chance, these initiatives are being shown by the russian side about the negotiations, but they want to secure now, as they see, the capitulation of ukraine on their terms, and in this way they are lobbying, pushing all the players in the world under various devices, digging there for some uh moments of weakness, and they expected that they would be fatigue, there will be losses not only for them, but also from the outside, and they still have a resource for this year, so it is a very difficult situation, but there is one question , no matter who presses from the outside, it remains open, first of all, any concessions are territorial the ukrainians will not leave the peace, then everything will be the same,

this will be a new bridgehead for further advancement , once and for all, those people who are in the occupied territories are not just in a terrible situation, they are waiting for release, that is, they, like the soldiers at the front, the ukrainians will not accept this attitude of the ukrainian armed forces the ukrainian people are absolutely not the ones to give up their territories there, the kherson zaporizhzhia region, no one even thinks about it, that's why, unfortunately, the realities are such that today the situation is very changeable, but i still said that it is not so bad for us, because no one could imagine that western countries would last so long in helping ukraine, no one could imagine that after 104 days, er, it is already more, well , in fact, so much that how was the war of the soviet union against finland that the ukrainian people , losing their best sons and daughters, losing

huge resources, they will still be motivated not to stop chasing the enemy of their territory, you know why. because no one wants to continue fighting in the future, they want to solve everything the question now is for their children, for their relatives. and in this key moment for the western countries, it is far away. they think that it is possible to have some kind of respite, after which russia can be gradually pressured there, and then somehow it will not be like this, that is, now we must help, as we say as much as possible, that is, it is actually going on, the struggle of russian lobbying interests, informational e-e, the position of some countries e-e is faltering, which currently help us quite a bit, but can gradually reduce the positions of strong countries with the help of the united states, great britain, and poland i would have already named the baltic states and the result will be where all these factors will converge. i think in month three, when this situation

should be stopped for the majority of votes, it will increase regardless of the situation at the front. by the way, thank you, mr. valery, for this analysis. diplomat, extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine worked on the espresso tv channel together with us, and we still have a little time left, and i would like to raise during this time issues related to the violation of human rights in particular and issues in general the general status of the ombudsman institute in our country is clear to me now. tetyana pechunchyk, head of the board of the human rights center, contact us. of human rights of the verkhovna rada when one person was fired, a new person was not appointed and when this appointment will take place at all is unknown,

please, really, this situation happened for the first time in the history of independent ukraine when in fact he found himself such a legal vacuum arose when lyudmila denisova was dismissed from her position, but according to the law there is no acting human rights commissioner, that is, in fact, the institution had a headless new bootsman; moreover, as a human rights defender, the human rights community critically evaluated how lyudmila denisova was dismissed because we believe that this is a blow to the independence of the institution of the human rights representative of the verkhovna rada of ukraine. well, in general, the term of office is 5 years, was it written somewhere at all in the ukrainian legislation, there is the possibility of premature termination of the denisova termination of her powers without the will of the person herself. well, anyone can

change the elected person for a certain time, with certain powers, with a certain cadence , at any time. - and such an early resignation is the first time that the law on the authority of human affairs does not provide for such a procedure, which actually took place because the relevant law provides an exhaustive list of grounds for which a person can be dismissed the human rights commissioner of the verkhovna rada is, for example, due to non-fulfillment of his duties or of his own volition or, for example, in connection with the violation of an oath . the investigation should have heard the report of the authorized verkhovna rada on human rights and only then the deputies could be determined instead. they made changes to another law on the legal regime of martial law and in this

regime provided for the possibility the expression of distrust of any official who was appointed by the parliament, it belongs to the verkhovna rada's human rights commissioner, accordingly, such dismissal began to bypass the procedure provided for in the relevant law on the human rights commissioner and which, in principle, would guarantee greater independence of this institution, i only added that the ombudsman is a human rights officer, this is a position that is not subject to as i understand it , some personnel rotation during martial law is true in another article of this law about legal the state of martial law refers to the fact that during martial law the powers of the president and the cabinet of ministers of the national bank, and in particular the human rights commissioner,

there is a double interpretation. this does not mean that the authorized representative cannot be fired. but of course, the way in which this dismissal took place raises a lot of questions, regardless of how to evaluate lyudmila's own work denisova in this position, and we believe that this is unacceptable and the parliament should not resort to such slow dismissals without explaining the reasons, without actually creating some kind of commission to investigate , not deserving of a report of powers, because this is actually wiping the feet of the institution of the commissioner and this is happening. by the way, this is not the first time once because when lyudmyluy denisov was appointed, it also happened with a violation of the procedure, she was appointed by open voting, also creating a legal conflict by making changes to another law on regulations of the verkhovna rada, although in fact the representative must be appointed by secret ballot, this guarantees greater independence, that the deputies will be able

to show such freedom as you were. when you work, who voted, there is a war going on in our country, and we regularly, in particular, thank you , regularly record cases of rights violations unfortunately for people, this is the truth during the war, nevertheless, we do not have a human rights commissioner, and i think that if ms. denisova was not there, but we need to think about who can hold her position to replace the human rights environment in general is preparing any proposals to the parliament or will we have some bright politician again, say mykola tyshchenko for example or maryana bezugla they told the servant that it must be a woman that is definitely not mykola tyshchenko well other names were called for example ms. verbytska, who is authorized with the president to protect the rights of military personnel, but what worries us here is not that

these names are being thrown around, but that such a behind-the-scenes process is absolutely opaque without the involvement of the human rights community, without consultations, and that is violation of the paris principles are the standards of the independence of the institutions of the human rights commissioner, which are adopted for democratic countries, for countries that respect human rights. that is why we insist on this, and by the way, we have published an open appeal to the speaker of the parliament ruslan stefanchuk, asking the people's deputies to do two things: first hold consultations with international organizations and with human rights defenders and the human rights protection community because ukrainian human rights defenders and e the monitoring mission of the un and the g7 countries, this situation must be solved. that is, there should be consultations, which should discuss what the requirements and procedures should be for the election of a new

bootsman, and secondly, we call for an open a competition where truly independent candidates from the human rights community can apply, and as a result of such a competition, for example, it is possible to recommend three candidates to the parliament, among which the parliament can already decide and choose one of them for us in principle, it should be a person with a defense experience and a professional, and also independent of the current government, because we suspect that just as lyudmila denisova was dependent on the previous government, the current government wants to appoint an ombudsman who will be dependent already on the bank and on president zelensky, thank you on the 7th on june 16, ukraine will be visited by a un commission to investigate russia's war crimes against ukraine. members of the independent un international commission intend to visit a number of cities in ukraine, including lviv - kyiv, kharkiv and sumy. what is the authority of this un commission and what results and

its work do you expect, what kind of result of work in ukraine do you expect we have literally two minutes and the mission was established by the un specifically responding to events in ukraine we are in contact with this commission and we had online consultations with them, i hope that we, as human rights organizations that document war crimes, will be able to meet with them here in kyiv and pass on the important information that we have documented and the standards of evidence and information gathering fixed by the commission are quite high and they are quite serious evidence regarding those war crimes committed by the russian federation and this is another very convincing nail in the situation of impunity with russian war crimes and this will be very important evidence for various organizations for all organizations in the world who are members of the un

regarding the fact that russia is committing war crimes and crimes against humanity. and where will these conclusions be transferred to which structure in the european union ? actually, they will prepare their report . will be presented for all organizations that are part of the united nations, and the standard of collecting this data is quite high in principle in similar commissions. they can sometimes be used in criminal proceedings, but we we ourselves would also like to learn more from the experts of this commission about the specific modalities of their work and how the collected nemetani can be used in addition to advocacy results, in addition to informing the countries of the world about the situation in ukraine and the military crimes well, i would definitely like to add that without a visit to mariupol, which is now physically impossible, the work of any un commission will not be

fully implemented, because precisely those war crimes committed there by the russian federation demonstrate its true face as much as possible the best thank you tetyana pechunchyk the head of the board of the center for human rights the change was in touch with us and mustard irynka thank you for your work and congratulations - this is freedom. my name is vlasta lazur. on youtube and on the air of the tv channel