on our broadcasts and he appears from time to time, so we hope that in the next broadcasts he will appear and we will ask him the same questions and allow me the last question for you is the vice prime minister for the reintegration of the occupied territories iryna vereshchuk recently urged teachers from the kherson region to leave the region. please tell me in the conditions that have developed how easy it is for people to set such tasks, because as far as i understand, it is not so easy to leave the region. people the exit of people through the zaporizhzhia region through vasilivka has resumed, but this is not an agreed humanitarian corridor, and people have started to leave again at their own peril and risk, but some people manage to do this. the only way to date is to leave even where this exit is not blocked. occupied by the occupiers through the crimea, georgia, bulgaria, there, moldova, and back to ukraine

, that is, this is the way, so you know, it is a really difficult issue with teachers now, because the occupiers are forcing the heads of educational institutions to work according to the russian methods there are many teachers in the federation under the program of the russian federation. well, not many, but all the teachers refuse to do this, and the principals of the schools, uh, that's why the occupiers here are carrying out this kind of work, you know , intimidation again, and i know many cases when they are arrested, uh, they are arrested. it's a little inappropriate because is arrested if, according to the law , school principals are kidnapped, and those who refuse to work with the occupiers are kept

there for two to three weeks, again in prisons and torture, that's why the situation with teachers is difficult. i think that after all, it is necessary to organize the education of children in the occupied territories online so that the children have the opportunity to study according to the ukrainian program, but again, here we have the question of ukrainian, which is currently blocked, and the russians because of their russian internet traffic, they began to block the connection via viber, we talked about the events in the kherson region, serhii khlan, a deputy of the kherson regional council, was in touch with us, the russian side handed over the first bodies of ukrainian defenders to ukraine

who died at the azovsteel plant in mariupol, this happened as part of the exchange of bodies as early as june 2 on the front line in the zaporizhzhia region, informs the sushi agency and tadpress, it is noted that dozens of bodies were brought to kyiv that were pulled out from under the ruins of the broken plant in the capital. dna analysis is currently being carried out to identify the dead it is not known how many more bodies may remain at the azovstal plant, but the information about the exchange was confirmed by the association of families of azovstal defenders, where they reported that 160 bodies of fallen defenders were returned to ukraine, a third of which are the azov soldiers and the rest belonged to other units about the return of the bodies of the dead soldiers for the azov steel. first of all, i will clarify that your brother is, as far as i know, he is currently in captivity. and do you know where

he is? when was the last time you spoke with him? my brother is now in captivity. when they were taking me out, and i was in touch with him just on may 20, he said that in the afternoon he will not be in touch with him anymore. and uh, as soon as he has the opportunity, he will call me and he will tell me where he is, what he is doing and how he is doing, if he is given it, let 's say yes, so far, unfortunately, for almost three weeks, i don't have any information about where he is, what he is like , how he is treated, how is he treated, how is he eating normally, are they provided to him some medical assistance and so on the day before maybe you saw the press conference of volodymyr zelenskyi and he said that there are two and a half thousand fighters for azovstali in russian captivity and that the

president said against them that torture is not used, that is, i understand that you do not know about the conditions of detention of prisoners , and in particular your brother, uh, no, i do n't know because uh, again- after all, we turned to the red cross, the red cross e-e replies that their occupiers in the dnr plan do not allow them to enter the territory of e-e at all in the territory of the deer park where our defenders are supposed to be and they cannot confirm e-e the fact that with them to them they are treated properly and they eat normally, they are provided with normal medical care. of course, their psychological state is not very normal. they experienced such a horror that probably no a-a country in the world and not a single city in ukraine has seen the horror that they saw

mariupol and in particular the defenders of mariupol and the defenders of azov stopped in the last days, in the last, let's say, in the last weeks, they received so many bombs, starting with phosphorus bombs and ending with 3,000 bombs, which well, you understand , fortunately, we have not seen such a thing anywhere else, and i i really hope we won't see it again. volodymyr zelenskyi said that the liberation of the ambitians from russian captivity is being handled by the main intelligence directorate, and someone from the ukrainian side is contacting you about the return and the terms of the return. well, you see, our president has more information, after all, he is the president he has access to information and we created the association of the families of the defenders of azov steel in order to communicate normally with our authorities and foreign organizations such as the red

the cross that gave security guarantees a-a export reports and e-e we, for example, our association cooperates primarily with gur from gas stations because, well, these are just people who are representatives of our authorities. that is, you communicate with them on this matter. yes, we, we, on this matter we communicate with them, but i understand that, again, ukraine is not allowed there, only the red cross or some international representatives, from whom russia communicates, can come there. of course, i understand that our president cannot influence the situation as much as he wants b i wanted to, so we are calling on the red cross and other organizations to help us and check what they are doing now. sandra, you said that the most incredible thing is that your brother is in the occupied territory of the donetsk region. and you are sure of this

not in russia, but in donetsk region, i am not sure why? because as i say, i haven't been in touch with him since may 20 and until he calls me and says where he is, i can't be sure, and the only thing i can say is that i called the hotline of the national information bureau and they they confirmed to me that he is on the lists and was evacuated from azov to a deer enclosure on may 20, but you understand that three weeks have passed, ah, is he now in a deer enclosure or is he now somewhere on the territory of russia, i cannot know, i have no contact with him. i am waiting for someone to give me an answer as to where exactly he is, so that you understand, we are crimeans, and therefore my brother can be treated very differently there, that is, in the same way as the boys from donetsk, or from donetsk, luhansk, and in general the eastern parts of ukraine so i i'm very worried i don't

i know where my brother is, and i don’t understand why some people are already talking about the fact that they were there several times, they were able to call their relatives, why in three weeks my brother has not called me once, and are they not coming, are they not are you receiving any threats, calls, messages with threats, more precisely because i read the comments of some wives of azov residents and they say that they receive threats from russian numbers well, i understand that they are receiving threats from those people who were called by their relatives and who, let's say so flashed their phone numbers and then these numbers are mine, this is my vision. i think so, then this is the price for these numbers and these threats are coming. i understand you now. allow me to ask you about the return of the bodies of the dead. just in the association of

one of the defenders of azovstal, which you mentioned and represent, they report that 160 have been returned to ukraine. of the bodies of the fallen defenders a-a as far as i understand, correct me, these are not all those who died on azov. ukraine is waiting for someone else. well, of course, a sufficient number of guys died there, not only on azovstal, but in principle in mariupol. for all these 80 two days of active fighting, and a sufficient number died there, i don't know the exact number, but it's clearly not 160 people. of course, these are not all the bodies of the dead, a lot of soldiers are also now under the rubble, which need to be found and , uh, brought back home it finally happened, the long-awaited, long-awaited exchange, and finally at least one of the relatives saw their

loved ones for whom she was waiting. and do you have at least an approximate idea, since the dead still remain in the dead ? and it is difficult for me to answer because i do not i know the number, in principle, how many died in the azov region, i know that a sufficient number of guys died there, and in addition to that, again, i am sure. well, i can answer, uh, just for half of the tales, the azov regiment, for example, does not abandon its own. i'm sure that he took the bodies of his dead brothers to azovstal and preserved the bodies as much as possible in order to hand them over to his relatives , that's why i think that there are still boys who need to be brought home. thank you for your comments yes yes thank you for your comment comment sandra krutevich, sister of the first deputy

commander of the azov regiment bohdan krytevich, thank you very much, the only evacuation train that is currently taking people from luhansk and donetsk regions has now arrived in lviv from pokrovsk, at the station we talked with temporarily resettled people radio svoboda correspondent roksolana bychay she is with us on the yazuk roksolana my greetings, have many people arrived and what do they tell you? hello , dear, in fact, several evacuation wagons have arrived, because this is the train that goes from pokrovsk volunteers mostly take people from more dangerous settlements, villages, villages of donetsk region and luhansk region. they mostly take buses, or buses, or if people have the opportunity to get to pokrovsk on their own, where the train comes from, then they do it on their own, as they see fit. well, and then the train goes to zaporizhzhia, there it is divided into different cars

, the cars are attached to trains that go to different regions of ukraine, mostly to the west or more centrally, further from the east. people come out, for example, how many people were in lviv today, unfortunately, they could not tell us exactly. volunteers who work with them here at the lviv station, however, there were several cars and mostly people from donetsk, luhansk region, who planned to leave mostly from private sector, people who lived in their separate private houses and thought that they would be able to survive the war without evacuation and would be able to survive it at home, but they still had to leave , and the majority of the people we spoke with were like that uh, part of the people, uh, they lost their homes or have serious damage, uh, that's actually why they decided to go to safer regions of ukraine after all

, we can listen more from these people themselves. someone in the fields and it exploded there, and there private houses damaged everything, it was already the second. said that we you if more stay here for two or three days, you may not leave in the 14th year and the fact that now how much the situation has changed well, these are completely different situations, these are different situations then it was thundering thundering , well, the rockets did not fly overhead, they destroyed the house

, destroyed the village, demolished the there is nothing at the tip of our village, well, the naked bosses have left, everything has already been sanctified by mykhailo , they are trying their best to secure regions in the east, they are driving with dogs directly on chains, they say that no, they cannot leave pets at home under shelling, under rockets. there may also be quite a lot of people with children, families and elderly people also travel by this train here, volunteers at the station pick them up in wheelchairs and continue to help in resettlement, in resettlement, volunteers help those who need it, most of the people who need it they go because most of them do not

have relatives here, those who have a place to stay are usually a few of those with whom we managed to communicate. sometimes, not every day, for example, yesterday, such a person also came to lviv with several wagons with people who were evacuated from donbas. well, today also the one whom we met and we also know that such an evacuation flight is planned tomorrow, well, actually , about how many people are now immigrants arrive in lviv, how busy is the station? i managed to talk with the volunteers and they say that now people here are pierced by birch trees less than it was at the beginning of the full-scale invasion, for example actually, the scale is much smaller, actually. thanks to roksolana. roksolana bychay works in lviv. well,

the story of the former employee of the fsb of russia, ilya bogdanov, served in russia in the fsb until 2014, and then he became a soldier of the armed forces of ukraine and took part in the battles for the donetsk airport after demobilization for according to the sbu, bohdanov survived an attempt on his life, which methods the fsb used and continues to use in ukraine, and how can you explain the cruelty and violence on the part of the russian army that took place in ukraine with their ilya bogdanov shared his thoughts on this matter with radio svoboda. we are going and suddenly at an intersection i see a very strange picture out of the corner of my eye. a russian assault vehicle has driven into the fence . this is a bmd-4 nova . and we are starting to shoot machine guns, the machine gun is sitting in this car, bullet that's how the

front one just flies shocking fighter from buch igor, well , his guts probably fell out at the first second he managed to open the door, well, the 200th is to my left he saw a drone, his arm and leg were shaking like mine. bones and i shouted to the driver, gas, gas, gas. well, i felt a thump, a blow, and just my hands. no, i thought it was torn off. they are collecting it, it’s not the enemy without a hand, he was left in ukraine without arms well, you will still have a hand krucha, they will drop chips there, i will put the lion, oh, my left hand, to the driver who, like this, stuck to the steering wheel and said, dear, please, in a calm voice , step on the gas, take us out of here, i really wanted to visit the place where the battle took place and i was wounded, our

honor of the people was walking through the overgrown channel of the already occupied bucha, which is where the fields of opole were buried. state of affairs, that is, there was enough of a trophy, but it was problematic to take them out. we were going there. i had nothing to do with them. i knew that some of our fighters were oak trees. right sector continued to keep in touch, and on the very first evening i dialed my former commander rem there and said rem take me to the war right after school and i entered the khabarovsk border institute of the federal security service of the russian federation to the department of operational and emergency operations,

when they asked a young lieutenant where do you want to serve, uh, i said verbatim how mikhail yurievich lermontov is a real russian officer, i want to start serving in the mountains of the caucasus, being uh, a senior lieutenant in in dagestan, sometime in 2013, i reported to the first deputy director of the fsb, bortnikov, as the third person from putin. i participated in the searches. when we spent 400 minutes on one militant and we spent 400 minutes. primorsky krai, and then when these historical events happened, i was on the maidan. at first, i was in the donbass battalion. when the battalion was withdrawn from donbass, no matter how much i wanted to sit in the dnipropetrovsk region, donetsk airport, how to get there only through the oak tree right sector well, i asked all the volunteers to arrange everything, as if my

closest friends and associates were already fighting then , on the side of the russian spring, you, in contrast to your friends, decided to become a member of the ukrainian armed forces. yes, i am. well, i couldn't connect there that novorossiya will become the center of europe. the whole world will be liberated. well, that takes a second time. something is taken away and there is taken away only they humiliate someone, and there they humiliate only them and humiliate simply depending on their social status yes that is, if you are a businessman or a security guard you are humiliated by the codes of the kadyrov class specifications yes, there is no future in russia, they do not create anything new in culture and ukraine it 's just fresh blood for vampires, that's all , do ukrainians need to know something about the methods of work of the fsb that may be here in ukraine, well, ukrainians love

total treason, total treason, this is the anarchy of the lack of a core of such a vertical. vot ony ochen they don't work with this competent person and rock the boat , he has influence through the agency, you already have ukrainian citizenship, yes, ukraine is for you, what if i came here in the 14th year not to fight for ukraine, but to fight against putin's regime, and i needed a second russia, then in 8 years i already fought for ukraine and i don't need any russia i don't want this state to exist on the map turkey and russia have previously agreed on how to bring ukrainian sports grain to odessa referring to my sources, i will remind you that more than 20 million tons of grain are stuck in the ports of ukraine, and turkey previously promised that it could become an intermediary in the blockade of ukrainian ports, so the turkish government notes bloomberg has offered its

military assistance for demining the coast of odessa and escorting ships with grain to a certain point in the black sea agency also claims that russia demands that it be given the opportunity to inspect merchant ships for the presence of weapons, while according to bloomberg, ukraine does not participated in these negotiations, it is also reported that ukraine does not approve of the proposed plan , in particular, because of the risk that the removal of coastal defenses may leave a vital port open to a russian attack . during the visit of the head of the ministry of foreign affairs of russia and the ministry of defense to turkey at the same time, the president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi said at yesterday's press conference that neither he nor the head of the ministry of foreign affairs dmytro kulebu will attend the meeting in ankara invited at the same time to the question under what conditions ukraine can go to demining the coast of

odesa ports and who should be the guarantor that the ukrainian side will go for it. zelenskyi reminded about the need for appropriate weapons. the export of ukrainian grain, first of all , what is it for turkey and how acceptable can ankara's conditions be for kyiv, we will talk about this further with us on the link ihor semevolos director center for middle eastern studies, i congratulate you for the beginning. i will ask you what is the interest of turkey . why is it ankara? turkey receives serious dividends here. i can say that it will be the head of the famine for the countries of africa and the middle east. i would like to remind you that the account also conducts an active politics in this in these regions and that is why they

should be reminded once again about the importance of turkey and about the success in the foreign policy successes of ortgan, but in this situation it is also beneficial for turkey in view of the upcoming elections to take place next year and in order to raise the authority of our own president, we already have a direct speech from volodymyr zelenskyi. let's listen to what he said about it and continue further. another corridor of the port for the export of grain, we are working on this we are working with specific states with specific systems with specific anti-ship systems, i would even say so, we are working and we are getting little by little, maybe it is also

to state i believe that this is the best guarantee because it can be different with the fleet of the russian federation, we do not threaten these systems, we specifically say that we are ready to respond very quickly, but volodymyr zelenskyi said that the best guarantee is a weapon and what are your hopes that tomorrow everything - turkey and russia will still reach some kind of agreement, given that ukraine will not be at these negotiations. i think that in any case this is only the first stage, that is, if an agreement in principle is reached between turkey and, quite possibly, russia will offer this option through international institutions, primarily through the united nations, at the same time, i believe that most likely turkey will already conduct negotiations with ukraine , and it is clear that this is the

most important thing for us without such a question. as far as i know, ukraine has also applied and to turkey with a request to mediate in this matter. so, if we take into account the previous appeal, it can be assumed that turkey is actually trying to implement this request. well, against the background of these news that turkey can contribute to the unblocking of ports there was also information that russia allegedly exports stolen ukrainian grain to turkey under its own documents. and turkey buys this stolen grain, how can these two things coexist relative co-exist unfortunately, and er, well, at least there is a message about this er, i think that it is precisely here that turkey is probably primarily interested in er-e these reports to be refuted er, that is,

an appropriate investigation must be conducted, because otherwise this is of course a very, very unfortunate er-er will cover up a case that er-er will harm seriously bilateral relations in general in the image of turkey because it is very bad to buy from ukraine, ah , well, before, turkey b bought various goods from the ports of crimea, and there was also a long discussion about this, and from time to time this trade flow stopped and then resumed therefore, unfortunately, turkey is not consistent here. well, as you know, it did not join the sanctions and continues to the full extent of active economic cooperation. i will only remind

you that this meeting between russia and turkey should take place in ankara tomorrow, so we will discuss this topic tomorrow i hope we will devote more time to it, we will follow it to see how the issue of where the blockades of ukrainian ports will be resolved. and now ihor semevolos, director of the center for middle eastern studies , was in touch with us. thank you very much. where is convenient for you well, journalists and correspondents of radio svoboda work literally in every region of ukraine, including on the front line, in order to inform you every day about what is taking place in ukraine against the background of a full-scale russian invasion, two channels on youtube radio svoboda and radio svoboda ukraine subscribe to be informed and the program svoboda life will return to the air as usual tomorrow, it is very important in this difficult time to be aware of what is happening, we

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