[000:00:00;00] a lot of people left the villages and villages of the kharkiv region, if we are talking about the immediate line of demarcation, the line of shelling then left. well, most of the people left, we have very few left, but those people who remained, if you say correctly, are engaged in household chores . of their usual way of life, it is very often very dangerous. but we observe this as well and we see how women go out into the garden and sow potatoes and when the whistle blows over they are hiding in the basement with their heads, this is probably an attempt to provide for themselves a life hmm somewhere i don’t know how to provide ourselves with products or something else ukrainians are very strong and it is probably genetic that we know that we have to be

reliable reliably protected in terms of the fact that everything will be fine with us for the future. however, it is extremely dangerous and we constantly try to explain to the local residents about this danger, they do it for themselves in the first place and besides, they cause quite a lot of trouble to us because that we are worried about them. we are trying to convince them that this cannot be done and give them help to evacuate and if necessary we also provide medical assistance, er, if such a thing happens, we are always ready to come to the rescue, but it would be better if they still listened according to our advice , they evacuated and were safe, and it would have been safer for us then as well. and why don't they go , they understand their responsibility. why are you distracted by them and responsible for them? there is nowhere to go, what people say, for sure, they understand most of the people who stayed actually have nowhere to go, that is, they are afraid of the unknown,

they are afraid of the unknown more than shelling, and that's probably why they are the part of the people who just probably can't realize what they want to do safety not only of oneself, but still , on the one hand, on the other hand, it is also a very great strength of spirit, because one should not be afraid of such a thing, and probably also a very strong love for one's life, one's voice, one's life, one's land, and this is also, again , genetic ukrainian to protect one's house to protect their homeland this is probably very much instilled in them and they will join forces very strongly here in zaporizhzhia they talked about collaborators, there is such a character volodymyr rogov, such a local who has been there all his life for russian peace, everyone knows him there but nevertheless, the law enforcement officers almost do not ask him it was now he is almost talking there, so here

i am, quoting, reading lb.ua, about the production about sviatohirsk, the dbr opened an investigation into the mayor of sviatohirsk, who publicly supported the occupiers. he recorded a video in publicly promotes russian peace and discredits the armed forces now if we see this character can be shown on the channel zvezda of his russian ministry of defense showed this this is what the mayor of the venerable svyatohorsk looks like the dbr opened criminal proceedings for treason against the mayor of svyatohorsk in donetsk region volodymyr bandura his name is stated that he distributes interviews to russian propagandists who publicly promote russian peace, discredits the armed forces of ukraine and the state authorities of ukraine well, in particular, on one of in the video, he publicly supported the views of the liberator and stated that it seems that the ukrainian armed forces set fire to this holy hermitage of the sviatohirsk lavra, which was completely burned down. well, it was actually fired upon by the russians as

a result of the shelling, but according to the version of the mayor of sviatohirsk, the armed forces did it what is your attitude in general, what to do with such well -liked collaborators, gauleiters, we can still remember about the nelyush tepu who sat in sloviansk in the 14th year and there gave for tv channel russia-24 with the russian flag and said that putin called the army, come, help us later. well, she calmly walked to the russian full-scale war, now she is free, the trial has been going on for the ninth year, it seems that it will not end, and what to do with such people, well, the trial is over there is still during the war, i think it would also be enough, well, actual punishment or not, maybe not very humane

and in european terms not so terrible the most terrible thing that can happen because uh to a large extent it is precisely because of such people that we have a war in our country because you remember that everything began, we remember that putin came to protect the russian-speaking population from his point of view so when did all this begin and not just so he came, and because he was supported by individual individuals, they supported him and caused such trouble not only for ukraine, but for the whole of europe and the whole world, about what to do with them according to the laws of wartime, we must act as in education they were inferior to the laws of wartime. here i am i am convinced that uh, by example, by example, even those settlements that eh holds our building karpatska sich can be observed who

help our unit, who, er, help in everyday life or in the kitchen or er, in cleaning, well, in many things, but they support the ukrainian army as much as they can. and those who could even think something against us are simply not here anymore, they are afraid they are afraid because they understand that against them are those people who came with such a motivation that they are ready to give their lives for this land and in the fight against this enemy they simply do not dare to either stay here or even show themselves in no less a way that they understand that the punishment will be severe and it should be so, because politically there should be a form and they will go to the presidential elections, this man is young enough, this bandura volodymyr volodymyrovych, he was born only a year before the adoption of ukrainian independence in 1990 this person was born, and you know from which party the

trump party, of course, even freedom, our flight, construction must make very sharp and tough decisions now, because it is precisely on this and also the life of his father or his son, someone's husband depends, because it is because of this that it is necessary to understand that the responsibility does not lie only on these people who talk like that, but also on those who do not take action against them, the punishment weighs because impunity breeds and multiplies evil, this must always be remembered, and in conditions of war - this is special thank you very much and especially hard, mrs. maria, maria czech deputy battalion commander of the carpathian sich freedom legion, we talked about the kharkiv direction and political responsibility , petro kuzyk is already with us, the commander of the anti-terrorist battalion, svoboda, captain of the national guard of ukraine, congratulations, peter , we welcome you to ukraine. good day, peter. located near the north of donetsk, as i understand it, there is a

lot of information about the fact that the ukrainians there partially intercepted the initiative and partially recaptured part of the city, what is the current operational situation there from the ground tell us about our units. i'm a little far from you, but i was in north donetsk. now we're storming new ones. they repelled somewhere around a quarter of the muscovites. they're suffering heavy losses as of today. well, only in my sector, two tanks have been burned in our sector. they've beaten up the infantry. we're trying to move forward. the dynamics of the street is enough. what should i talk to you about? i'm there. i'm taking a break . all the units working in donetsk today are trying to storm with varying degrees of

success. we are trying to move forward and the armed forces of ukraine, the national guard is moving forward, the volunteer battalion of freedom, well, in principle, everything is working harmoniously, god forbid, god forbid that today is like every day. well, this is one of the few days when you can really say that the initiative is on our side. it is related that the initiative was intercepted by the ukrainian defenders, there were more weapons, more manpower, or the russians just ran out of steam or how do you explain it? well, i think it is in the complex, uh, where we worked from the defense, we took care of their lives strength, and for our information, they recently raised reserves eh, from this we can conclude that

we are still exhausting the destruction and infantry and not the equipment, the result was successful well, for now, we are satisfied with what is, it is possible that this is the moment, maybe it was a strategy there to exhaust them and leave. maybe it is, well, because the dynamics are so unpredictable, maybe it is a rush in order to gain a foothold in new positions, and then we will land again. for now, we are moving forward and glory god we hear that the battle is going on for minutes. and tell me, please, well, at least we hear artillery there . severodonetsk for us now has exclusively political significance, is holding it strategic, including, well, it certainly has a strategic significance ? why? because while we are holding

severodonetsk e- smear the color of the artillery both in lysychansk and in bakhmut and in those units that hold those er efforts to take the grouping of troops and so on, as soon as we move away from severodonetsk, the concentration of artillery on those participants er moskovskaya i mean she will increase, even in this there is something that we uh. it is here that we divert them from uh, they are from other serious directions, we also uh, we are fighting urban battles, they are bogged down in these urban battles, so there is a certain strategic significance in this as a logistics center, well, in my opinion i didn't see a clinical look in him, but the fact that i'm a field commander there is my vision and i still absolutely trust the military

leadership, there's no reason not to trust it. maybe there's some kind of strategy in this, we're fulfilling our role as a soldier and an infantryman . that's why we try perform them well as a field commander, please rate them now in the north donets forces. our enemy forces are alive and technical. frankly, we have an advantage over the enemy here, especially in artillery, especially in uh, new heavy weapons in tanks and so on, uh, but our advantage is in motivation and in the ukrainian countryside, we are not trying to change our tactics a little bit, not just work from the defense when we also made losses because, er, the ratio of artillery shots on good days was one to 20, in hell it is one to 50

the concentration was very high. now the tactics have changed a little bit. let's try to go forward, mix with their infantry, break their cards, work more dynamically . the way our tankers work, the way our scouts work, the way the infantry works, even with that small one, i can’t say how many. some units in pana are retreating, they are sorting it out, there are prisoners today, so, god forbid that today is not worse, and the fact that they have an advantage

in technology, we don’t care when we came here. we knew about this advantage when we came here. on the air, in principle, they also had an advantage and they are here and so on in terms of technology and so on, so far we are working. it is possible that our mission is to torture them to such an extent to give ukraine time to get enough of weapons and offensive, including then the president maybe ukraine is clear about this back and forth to the construction strategist, i don't know. i now have a tendency to trust absolutely everyone, because there is no place for politics or intrigue , we all work as one, until victory, after victory, we will all go back to our own business, peter. and what about the local population? russian propagandists filmed many videos of scenes where the local population meets the russian

occupiers with set tables and vodka and tells how they suffered, how they are rejoicing now, how are the local population now, do you see him there and what is the reaction of the people, what are they doing, please? of course, there is no such thing, the only thing is that for the sake of justice, the local population that remained here is here, it is civilian people who want to survive , that is, they are kadirovtsy. there and other urban growth. to the people they meet, they can easily say, politely, that they were waiting for them in order to increase loyalty, they need to survive . water was extracted from under the zavaliy, it is very loyal from us to argue loyally there, i heard a story

when a person worked at a factory as a driver, and i also had a high salary, it was the russian peace here and i don’t need it at all, or a happy person, etc. but i understand that when a civilian sees people with weapons, even chevrons or ukrainian ones, and she needs to survive, she says what she possibly wants us to hear, and tells them what they want to hear, but in fact, he has only one goal, which is to survive in this meat grinder here. honestly saying you know if there is a hell in the world, then in principle this place is the very ass of hell, so you can understand the civilian population, which at any price, uh, that's why they are accepted with closed tables. this is a complete brand. so there is a lack of food, shops do not work and people they cook food on a fire because there is no infrastructure there, it is all destroyed by the products we ate recently, well

, that is, the territory that was controlled, they helped it, most likely it is again brought in by eh shapito eh of these people who are there. they take them with them and shoot these videos. grace of the civilian population he is in the city now, absolutely, how can i say there are people who have nowhere to leave, there are people, uh, it’s just that there are people who i asked, i say, can i take you out, so i have nowhere to go and just like that, the circumstances of life have made it so that there is nothing to live on and nowhere to go and there are no relatives, there is a certain number of such people, thank you for your work and that you still found time to tell us all about it on the air petro kuzik commander of the freedom terrorist defense battalion captain of the national guard of ukraine north donetsk is holding the defense thank you very much let's move on

oleksandr musienko, let's talk more globally , from the specific to the general situation, oleksandr, we welcome you, i congratulate you, petru kuzyk was on the air with us, if you heard, he told about the fact that today they have good harvests in north donetsk, our guys, yes, but well, the obvious advantage is enemy technology, and he says that it is possible, our task is now to track down ukraine until they reinforce the weapons, your assessment of the situation in north donetsk, is it possible to be encircled there? in particular, this is a continuous process, in fact, if we look at cooperation with western partners, then almost every day there is information about the provision of weapons, i recently saw a report presented by a respected western analytical think tank , that is, such an analytical institution, where they

summarized how much ukraine has already received from a measure of aid, and in principle it is possible, is still not enough to turn the situation around and achieve an advantage over the russian invaders in the village of heavy weapons, but in general the situation looks more optimistic than it is more pessimistic, it is also the m109 guns, especially the last few days, there is information about them and the delivery of the m-77 , and still, i would like you to help me with jet artillery from both the british and the americans, well, ipodrons, which also play a great role an important and serious role, that is, weapons are gradually arriving. but of course, they are still obviously not enough to completely knock out the enemy from the east. as for the situation in general, the impression is now that russia wants to level with

on its part, the maximum front line along the left bank of the river siverskyi donetsk in order to then have to use these certain advantages as opportunities to force it because there are more options for this, more sites where they can choose more territory where they can to choose to do it and to decide, let’s say , the question of further promotion if they have the resources left for now and they will be able to do it without a pause without prior assembly let's look at the map, which is constantly changing and being updated, then we can say that, of course, russia does not stop making efforts to shell and approach the lysychansk highway, and of course such risks

exist . of course, it is necessary to try , let's say, to take it under complete control. well, in the same way, we see that despite the fact that from other er-e areas, the mountain gold is south of severodonetsk , the enemy is also trying to advance seriously let's say there are no developments and successes there, although the situation of course remains difficult. and just what is holding out from severodonetsk for so many days, moreover , they can go into a counterattack, this indicates that they are simply exhausting the enemy, this indicates that the enemy threw large forces and even having an advantage, they they cannot gain complete control over the city. well, the situation, let's take a closer look, it is so dynamic and extraordinary oleksandra, well, judging by what we just heard from peter kuzyk, he is so in optimists - he is optimistic, i.e. he is more optimistic than pessimistic. he says that we are succeeding.

we have already won back two quarters there in a day . with severodonetsk-donetsk is much worse, and i will also ask you the same question as with peter , does severodonetsk have political significance for us or strategic significance from the point of view of the introduction of military operations, i am strictly asking for the retention of this city well you know that military command is also combined with political command, for this it will not disappear anywhere, there is no avoiding it, and that is why it is called military-political. but if we talk about the strategic importance at the moment, then we get the impression that in fact now severodonetsk can turn into a kind of stalingrad. there will be devastating battles, and we see that not

only russia is now throwing large forces, but also ukrainian forces are trying to do everything in order to bring reinforcements, give help, give more weapons as much as possible to our defenders there in severodonetsk and lysychansk and in other directions , where also now in donetsk region, in particular, not just to hold on the one hand, in this way, the military, due to the fact that they do not allow the russians to fully align the front line along the siversky unit and move and get an opportunity and a bridgehead to release the forces with which they are now storming the intensive city and try to force the river to move further west, it is from this point of view, they defenders play a big role there, plus they hold back a large grouping of enemy forces, in principle, this was the case in mariupol

, the only difference is that now it is not the flanks that are from the north and from the south. our forces are holding for that in order to really prevent the encirclement of severodonetsk in mariupol a little bit unfortunately, a worse situation has developed. luhansk in 2014, it is clear that this is, let's say, a loss of the administrative center on our part, and this will mean, well, full, let's say not yet 100%, but getting closer to that is a loss of control over the luhansk region , so here it carries the usual political aspects . also oleksandr well, petro also said about artillery, the superiority of artillery that in the worst days well, he says that it is hell in general. yes, but the ratio of ukrainian and ukrainian shelling and russian artillery is one to 50 - he says, and in the best days -

this is one to 20, that is, when our ukrainian shot is one to 20 and in response 20 russian ones are a good day. why did it happen? well, it happened because russia has more artillery, objectively, they have a lot more ammunition, a huge amount of plus. let's say what kind of e- during the years of putin's rule of russia, there was held, let's say, more than one event and more than one decision was made that it is necessary to increase the production of weapons, in addition to the ones that are in the warehouses of the old soviet union. objectively, there is more rice jet artillery of different calibers, and they have now brought it up. maybe even from other directions, most likely at the cost of shaving the flanks a bit. they have brought up more and more artillery in this direction, as for us, of course we

need to build up artillery, and there is one more point, we need to understand that without a certain superiority in the air, it will not be easy for us either, i mean that moving to talk with our western partners, in particular, or to look for internal a resource for the supply of a large number of attack drones. and it is even possible to gradually transfer our individual mortar calculations to the use of the same kamikaze drones as the americans are doing now. this is what could be effectively implemented right now because it does not require too much money and it would be possible to do it quickly and just beat the enemy with artillery offers and heavy equipment in particular and so oleksandr. nihilevsky 130th district, a majoritarian from the

people's ears, information about this bashansky bashansky hospital, a multidisciplinary hospital, where our dutch partners transferred a mobile hospital, it is called deployment manual 50bd, uh, and it contained not only 50 beds for civilians, but also a military autonomous hospital. here is this one help and after that after this publication a rocket hit and partially destroyed the hospital this and this hospital is there a direct connection this is what it looked like this mobile military hospital is there a direct connection maybe we are in vain. well, we talk like this to the people's deputies and accuse them of disclosing information. maybe this information is known to the russian intelligence that the hospital was opened even without this publication, and the russians would not know if there is a connection after all, but such things are not allowed well , to publish in your opinion. well, i can say whether there is a direct reason for a super-investigative connection, after all, let it be an investigation if it is such. and as

for it in general, i can say that there is an evaluation technology for conducting intelligence from open sources from where it is obtained approximately 75 10 sometimes even 85% of any information it goes through social networks through mass media and through other activities e . if any photos are posted, they can be monitored, in particular, by representatives of the russian special services and the development of that. of course, every citizen, and people's deputies and civil servants, especially. they must be extremely responsible and think about whether it is worth posting this or that information on social networks, let's say , can it expose you to risk, and it exposes you, you know, i remember. well, now many people already know the researcher

tom cooper, he writes on the topic, in particular, from there he gives russian-ukrainian during the war, he conducted research that was earlier in the series. so, he established that as soon as the russian aviation saw that there was a hospital or a red cross mark or a mark about it, civilians could be there, they would certainly launch airstrikes because they had to wait on to the geneva convention unfortunately, we have already seen it on our examples, and that's why these are the objects for which we should also pay attention, and we must be very vigilant and responsible, thinking before disclosing this or that information, it is possible. sometimes it is better to just soak it and nothing more. well, it is possible i will remind you that i am what you said statistics that from 75 to 85% of intelligence information is collected from open sources, that is, social networks, publications of changes, the internet, be careful, vigilant and careful not to help foreign foreign development

oleksandr, thank you for participating in our broadcast . oleksandr musienko, director of the center for military legal studies, commented on the operational situation with his forecasts. the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine, dmytro koleba, admitted that he does not expect any positive changes for ukraine from any decisions at the nato summit, which will be held in madrid on june 28-30, that is, in at the end of this month, ah well, he said that he was asked by journalists. he said that he considers the criticism of the alliance that is being heard in ukraine to be correct. is happening in ukraine and the world right now iro hello, thank you for the word anna literally in a moment about the most important events at this time 15 in ukraine on time you are on the espresso tv channel in the studio iryna koval