in such difficult conditions. and at the same time , information spread through a number of official channels that there were frictional contradictions within the defenders of azov. the risks and threats of such actions, e.e. rashists regarding the formation of their own information background around the defenders of mariupol, e.e. trinity, and i also want everyone to understand everything that we see, how many agreements we see that once someone tried to achieve something with russia, we can all see that there are no uh achievements, you can’t believe what they say in the russian media, well, it’s nothing , look, this is all being done and that well there, the azovians

did not share with the other units there, they were from the top and in the first place they will to exchange only azov citizens, eh, do you understand that this is all about paganism and that is also an information game of the fsb and the russian special services, this is for this, this is what is being done. in those meals they took it away and did not share it with them, well, you understand that everything that is said on russian tv is because it is money - because it is money, the price is not that it is emotional. my opinion, just give an analysis of this because russia says on its channels. how strong their propaganda is, there was no such thing from birth, this is information war, this is propaganda in order to divide us, so that we start quarreling, so that yes, it is not so, it is not so, the main goal of the enemy is to destroy our unity, that is why all these informational spills are being carried out. see what we have

information is separate from er well, only from their mass media , from theirs, well, we don’t see them in theirs. we don’t see independent er journalists there. we haven’t seen yet, well, at the moment, we haven’t seen. no information from the red cross, will there be any independent organizations, that’s all thrown in in order to divide us and it is not necessary to act on this at all, everything that the russian federation says on its channels is just a lie and we know this is slander, and i absolutely agree with such approaches and such an assessment. at the same time, going back a little where there were a number of appeals to the heads of various states to the un to the red cross to the pope to ensure the possibility of evacuating the defenders of mariupol to third e-e countries these negotiations did not give e-e results it is also known that at a certain stage attempts were made by the fighters of mariupol to

escape from captivity on their own do you have any information specifically about the possibilities of organizing measures to get out of captivity on your own, see information about the fact that the boys somehow tried to break out of the zrastali. i don't have such information. but what was there was such an attempt to break through this blockade, to break through from this side, a detachment of 150 men was created to move azov to kyiv. so what was the point. they wanted to break through and tried to break through with a fight and take action until the rest, but er, the gunpowder unraveled backwards, there was an asis sharpened by the whole btgr of the enemy and therefore, well, this plan was implemented, but as a result of the fact that it was unraveled, there were very

brutal battles, there were a lot of losses on our side and wounded, and therefore the plan was not investigated, and in the future the enemy with all his might already well controlled i blocked similar attempts, but did the guys try to break through from that side, i honestly don't know. how did you react to the appeals of various politicians, saying that we should form a unit there and wedge our way through the defenses of the russians to mariupol in order to free our fighters? how realistic are these calls? how well they were perceived by the azov residents themselves, if you know anything about it, the politicians don't want to. pr, you know what, guys. well, i trust our top military leadership.

the guys understood the same thing. the guys accepted me audibly, so, audibly, audibly, here and there, these calls were made by the politicians saying, "let's get together, let's fire there, judge, i don't know, guys, before that." they were realistic, they are professional soldiers and they understood that we do not have the strength and measures at that moment to break through that defense by military means, and i say once again that our military leadership is very professional, i trust him, that is, hai says they said their appeals. well, there was no opportunity at that time, so i don't know how else to comment on it, but if it is, the guys from there understood when i talked to my brother, he talked, says seryoga , maybe there are some options there, he says there are no options, we don't have such events well, the path is to get us , well, by military means, to free otak from here, that is the

situation, that is, they were ready to stand to the last, understanding all external threats and understanding the importance of their mission in this war, so they were ready to stand to the last, and they they stood heroically. they stood before the overwhelming forces of the enemy. there were a few thousand of them, and they were opposed by a group of 14,000 professional russian soldiers, a large number of technicians , crazy aviation support, ship artillery , rockets, well, it’s just hell, but the guys stood and they held out and they carried out their order. therefore, honor and praise to him, and they carried out the same order to go into captivity, they are professional soldiers and acted according to the order. is there any general information about the number of dead of our fighters and the number of those who are currently in captivity, are there any exact numbers? i do not know the exact numbers. i

know that the exchange of the bodies of the dead took place recently. excuse me, 160 of our circles were taken to kyiv, a third of them are azov, and the rest are identified. i know that a little more than two thousand of ours are in captivity well , i don't have exact figures. well, the president talked about 2,500 fighters for azovstal who are in captivity, is there any information on where they are now? well, for information a few days ago, i know that they were there, where they were taken, they were all in a pile, they are located on the territory of that colony. well, it is also a few days ago, in my opinion, or the day before yesterday. i had contact through third parties. i learned the information. they are

living conditions more or less. i say that the information was provided from captivity, that is, there is no statement to this by independent persons, well, independent journalists or some other, well, here is such information . e.e. of the deceased regarding their identification transfer e.e. to the families of the deceased how is it organized by whom it is decided you know i am not competent in this matter i think well my opinion is personal i think that this is done by the patronage service of azov as well as the red cross well i am not competent to answer well , i don't know. does your volunteer organization have direct contact with those newly created associations of women's wives of mariupol soldiers

who today are active enough to ensure a solution to this problem? a number of organizational issues that arise around the identification of bodies and the return of the azov fighters or contacts with the families of the azov citizens. of course , i maintain relations with the wives, such are the relations with some other persons, if you know this is the structure of the family. so where do the batteries come in? women, guys, they grew up, but this is not my line of work.

the question is whether you believe that it will be possible to solve the issue of the exchange of our servicemen even though we are negotiating with the most treacherous country of the russian federation. what are your feelings of expectation and hope? no agreements that do not keep their word promises realistically if you think like this it is very difficult because it is a very big visor of prisoners a prisoner and russia will be somehow use but directly. i have a lot of faith and believe in our military leadership . i think that some kind of agreement will be reached. well, some kind of agreement will be found and the boys will return home. how do you feel about the wild accusations from the russian state duma

that our soldiers should be tried in russia and sold i am sure of this, let's say that this is a propagandistic basis, how can we protect ourselves from this, are there risks of such actions of the russians , there are always risks of talking with russia, you understand. they do not observe any international law than we do nothing is followed, that is, if you think logically, there is a risk, but they are on the international stage and now they feel bad, but i, well , my personal opinion. i think that these are all manipulations. this is all propaganda. everything that is aired is where they will be judged. according to their laws, the death penalty was spoken there, i forgot his last name - it's their yakob dnr, some uncle said that we will sentence them to eternal imprisonment, first of all, i think this

is done for the ukrainian society, too. well, for propaganda purposes, to intimidate and raise the price for exchange, well, well, this is my personal opinion, i'm not very competent in these matters, so to speak, but after all, they came out of the wind not just like that, so i think there were some serious agreements. that is, you have to believe once again and it is necessary not to forget about the boys, but it is necessary to talk about them, because somehow it took a little time, and when they were captured , it became a little less to talk about them, but that was the right way in the beginning, but now we have to remember them again, remind them i am in no way about don't forget them, these are our boys, each of our boys must return home, you mentioned that through third parties you maintain contact with your brother. how stable are these channels, or is it known about our people who are wounded, or whether they are not

provided with medical assistance, i.e. those people who need it urgently, are there any other details related to the conditions of our military being in russian captivity, well, look at the third channels , i won't talk about the third ones, so the connection is very short, very short-term, well, i'm saying i.e. it's heavy. of course, it's a prison sentence. it's even more a prison sentence by the fsb or other bodies of the russian federation, which i definitely want to get . television or any details of these events. at the moment, i haven't heard of such a thing. no one has ever told me about it, that is, a loyal relationship. is it possible to transfer food to our prisoners, or is this question complicated enough

by the shadows of the organization, and i think that this is a very difficult question, but it should be resolved at the political level if we are talking about the political level in particular, there is the red cross, which is actually one of the parties to this negotiation process . we hope that there is a sense that the red cross is really involved in ensuring that our military is kept in conditions that meet the requirements of the geneva convention and whether the red cross is really making efforts to was this process civilized from the point of view of the exchange of prisoners of war or this is the information regarding the activities of the red cross and its representatives. well, you know, the red cross does some work, but information about well, we didn’t see any information directly from them, we didn’t see any reports from them or anything else that they were admitted to the wounded. well, maybe i didn’t see it somewhere on the

air or something else, but i have information that pokamist is having a hard time with this. that is, we have pokamist only the information provided to us by the russian propaganda media, today the name of azov remains such a significant irritant for the russian federation and we already have several units in ukraine that bear this proud name, but please tell us the whole history or the current situation and which units we have called azov, how they are created and who controls them , because in addition to the azov regiment, we see many other units with the same name, the structure, look , there was one a-a

now we will try to call our language in the guest just right we are talking about the fact that the azov units exist now in the national guard in the armed forces in the villages of special operations, they are also being created in the terrodefense units and each of them carries on the one hand such a clear and uh loud name of azov on the other hand tries to match those tall the standards of combat training that were directly demonstrated by the azov regiment defending mariupol , the ideological foundations that were laid as the basis for the creation of this unit and now remain a certain standard for ukrainian soldiers if we talk about courage and observance of military honor and the execution of military orders. now we have our guest on the air again p mom, friends

, i want to continue the story about how many azos exist today, what is the relationship between them and why so many of these structures are starting to appear in various power structures, see the regiment, the azov regiment, mariupol, he was the only one . first, one by one, we will invade those guys who did not have time to come to the defense of mariupol. it's not possible, they couldn't get there, there 's still a lot left in this territory, that is , let's go, here in ukraine, here on this side in ukraine , sorry. who began to join various structures, and we know that

there is a ssoazov kyiv and we know that there is an e-e tireo zaporizhzhia azov also there is kharkiv azov e-e these are units that include a certain number of native azov citizens and that e continue to fight and continue to train the boys who arrive to them on service, and that's why such a large number of azovs come out - this is a large number of territorial territorially placed units of azov. and this, well, basically, it is one azov whose general leadership is that they continue and conduct combat operations quite successfully, that is there are not many, there are simply different units that use and correctly use the name azov, you are also now, in addition to serving in the armed forces , engaged in volunteering with a cow to support the units of azov, which are the urgent

needs today in terms of providing what is needed, how to search for it in this way provide established contacts with the management of e gas ot and directly information e-e our team ot receives from them at the moment i deal with we deal mainly with flying with quadcopters with wings, a very large number of people are involved in this, both in ukraine and abroad, a lot of help from the united states, a lot of help from the czech republic and canada, poland, they are very well established, well, through the mediation of volunteers. serhiy prytula, from whom it is received, has received a lot and

now we are working with a very large amount of help to the fund, come back alive, well, this is my thank you very much, the first shipment was 80% made up of their help, there was such an incredible amount of all kinds well, guys, when they kept the name of the steel, they just passed it on very well, huge, thank you very much, because there really was a lot of help, so i will continue now, thank you very much, please do not give up, we will continue to work and how will people find out the information about the need to provide assistance to the azov regiment, how is this finding informational, because now we have the opportunity to address our viewers regarding support for the fighters of the azov regiment. it is through the power of the espresso channels what other forms of donetsk information do you use, or was this help large-scale, personally, my team, i work, i

convey all the information through my facebook page, as well as through those volunteers with whom we have been cooperating since the 14th year, whom i met now and also there is an official page of the azov regiment, there it is also indicated what to do , there are also requisites. well, that's how we cooperate. mainly in the usual way through facebook. i tried through instagram, but i don't have enough time. because there are a lot of duties in my service, that's the main thing. well, live contact, those who know me, those whom i know, my friends know those friends, the network. there is a lot of work, it is not finished. by the way, do you have enough to compare the volunteer assistance of the 14th year and the current period, or some, let’s say, differences

in the volume of approaches, whether the solutions worked out in the 14th year are now being implemented now or some the specifics of the comparison - compared to the 14th year, the volumes have increased tenfold, because well, we are seeing a full-scale invasion and people are united , the volumes have become so large. well, compared to the 14th year, it is much more, because then there was no experience. no, there was no there are no such well-established channel connections, and almost the whole world now supports us, that's why there are now, well, much more, but there is such a trend that now it has quieted down a little again. to kherson region and here are the people who do not feel hostilities for

them. for some reason, i don't know, it's very disgusting to say such a feeling that well, here he is, the war is over, here you go. when you come to peaceful territories, you look at people, you listen to their conversations. well, there was such a phenomenon in the 14th year, when there were hostilities, in the 14th, in the 15th year, strong, strong, in the 16th, too. everyone was very united, and then when it calmed down a little, it switched to a positional war again. we are at a new stage of the war that will be aggressive tough much let's say it's bloodier than it has been so far and it seems that we have some kind of gap between what we see on television and what is happening in reality, how to overcome this gap, taking into account your experience of communicating with the military and civilians, first of all,

no under no circumstances should you relax, under no circumstances if there are no hostilities in your city, thank god , you don't see it, under no circumstances should you think that the war is just going somewhere. it has gone somewhere, it has happened. we have a very strong, very a cruel, very insidious opponent, this war will last for a long time, the main aspect of victory in the whole war is the unity of the entire ukrainian people, there is no need to separate. there, the war is here. peaceful territory, we do not have a peaceful territory. we have a war throughout the country, there is no clear front line, any when anywhere and at any moment, you can't forget about the war, you can't reassure yourself that it's all there now. sorry, it'll be over in 2-3 weeks. no, it won't end, not in two, not in three weeks , not in a year. my personal opinion there will be active waves again, active offensives, and

we need to prepare for this, and not close our eyes to it . what, that's all. we can see from history who did this, always always lost, you can't think that the russian army is an army of idiots, there are some bums from the rest no, this is a very strong enemy, terribly strong and there are a lot of them, you ca n't underestimate him, you can't be loyal to it so you can lose very quickly, and by the same token, when they say they caught homeless people with the russian army there, they show it on television, don't devalue the feat of the armed forces of ukraine, the armed forces of ukraine are just professionals, those guys who fight in them are fighting hard, but with these we declare that he is standing in bushlatik, they are showing the league, they caught him somewhere in donetsk, or somewhere in taganrog, and here

we are fighting with such people. no, we are fighting with such people. understand and you all need to be united as one and everyone should work at the front for the boys if you drink coffee in your city, please remember that you are drinking this coffee because somewhere someone died in a trench because he was repelling another attack, you can't you ca n't forget about it. the war is not over. please remember this and work for the armed forces of ukraine, because the armed forces of ukraine are the guys who fight there, what heroes they are, and thanks to them, we exist and we will exist, and thanks to the armed forces, they will cease to exist the russian empire it's not me what do i believe, i am sure of this, well, both boys and girls will be caught at the front, and they are just setting examples for all those who, so far, do not perform a function directly with weapons, you made a very good summary regarding the fact that the war will continue for a long time and that we have to prepare for

new challenges, and we are fighting a really insidious and powerful enemy, but our strength and power will overcome all this. thank you for this detailed and interesting conversation, and i would like to remind our viewers that my interlocutor was a serviceman of the armed forces of ukraine, a volunteer regiment with the call sign mongol, now the fighters of azov, with whom we started our conversation, are holding a new battle, this is a battle in the environment, and now the task is directly before us citizens, before the political authorities, before the military leaders, before international structures, to do everything for in order to liberate our soldiers from russian captivity , this broadcast was conducted by serhiy zgurets, watch our on the espresso channel with new interesting programs good evening we are from ukraine vasyl's big broadcast

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