that's why i'm telling you that they shouldn't fool the advisers with their statements, because that's what it will be if the adviser declares that ukraine will receive 1.5 billion euro of income, then accordingly the adviser must have a mandate from the minister of energy in order to make such statements. do you understand oil when she made a request to the ministry, did she give me a mandate to her advisor? i received a reply, no mandates and powers, the advisor did not receive any requests from the ministry, that is why i am notifying you, this is just such a person, the mirror, time speaks, but the ministry must be listened to and read on the website, there is kosmolovska's press secretary is a minister, hlushchenko, as a person who understands what state responsibility is, please pay attention to the fact that we do have this problem in the country, that many people say

so, but it is still worth listening to the comments of officials, first of all who are responsible for certain decisions and statements oleksiy kucherenko people's deputy of ukraine first deputy chairman of the verkhovna rada committee on energy and housing and communal services was in touch with us and right now we have the next inclusion kira rudyk the people's deputy of ukraine and the head of the voice party are in touch with us. congratulations to panikira. congratulations to the studio. congratulations to maria. well, let's start with the latest news. first of all, i would like to talk to you about the collaborationism of politicians . of kherson region admitted that he cooperates with the russian invaders and supported the annexation of the region by russia, this is stated on kovalev's facebook page, now these posts are

politics, eh, we hope that soon the former but for now the active membership of the kovalev faction of the political force, the servant of the people, with whom the people 's deputy entered politics, has been suspended and they will initiate the deprivation of kovalev's mandate . with the farmers of the kherson region, the first deputy head of the administration of the president of russia kiriyenko, we know about the stupid policy that putin is pursuing in the south of ukraine, it consists in looting, kidnapping of ukrainian food grains, hmm, torture of our farmers and all kinds of provocation of hunger, not only in ukraine, but also in the world, in the style of the 30s of the 20th century, putin and his posypaks are acting today, among

whom , uh, recently, we don’t know since. what do you think about it, ms. kiru? what should a systemic solution to the problem look like? the servant of the people faction, the question of the legal possibilities that the verkhovna rada has in order to deprive deputy kovalev of his mandate, for this, it is necessary for our law enforcement agencies to work out, the question is primarily for them, where were they all this time, were there any suspicions of the cooperation of deputy kovalev with by the occupiers, if there were such suspicions, if there were such investigations, and some work has already been done there, it is a criminal case because, er, i want to remind you that by expelling a deputy from the faction, he cannot be deprived of his mandate it is possible to spare me so that he left on his own or

if there is an open criminal proceeding against him and what is the result of this case which has been proven and will there be a verdict, that is, what has happened now - these are necessary practical steps, but they are the result they won't have it if the security forces don't do their job. the second issue is a systemic one. this is a law on collaborationism. it has a lot of good work, the european solidarity faction and the voice faction also worked on it, but it also does not cover the case that just happened with deputy kovalev, because any deprivation of a deputy's mandate is very easy to appeal in the constitutional or supreme court, and this is also a problem. today, consultations were held with representatives of the supreme court and representatives of the constitutional court. what should the mechanism look like so that it is possible to deprive a deputy of his mandate and

then this decision could not be appealed, so that the deputy could not recover in any way, this issue is now difficult. it lies in the legal sphere, but even more so in the political sphere plane, because was it known about the inclination of this particular deputy to cooperate with the russians? well, there were many deputies in the verkhovna rada who also showed inclination. the question was whether any steps were taken by the majority for to er somehow prevent this or er i don’t know to put a certain list er limited who didn’t allow such moles to happen about this we do n’t know we would like to hear a more expanded position now of the monomajority on this matter but i want you to say that when this happened, all the factions

now worked as one simply to help get out of this unpleasant situation because this is a slap not only to the majority, it is a slap in the face to the ukrainian verkhovna rada, which has worked so actively and productively for the past three and a half months well, practically without quarrels, practically without scandals, with maximum efficiency, trust from people, now these steps, well, this is, of course, extremely unpleasant, we are all working to fix it, fix it, and so on if we talk about the kremlin's food crimes , the kremlin actually announced that there is an ongoing food crisis and that western sanctions must be lifted so that russian grain , now that's what they call grain stolen in ukraine from ukrainian farmers of the ukrainian state, could be supplied to international markets. the garden reports that our position is well-known, says

kremlin spokesman piskov e-e and actually there are no grounds in russia for default on debts because the e-e country can not pay interest to the bond owner accused the sanctions of pushing russia into an artificial default and says that if you want grain, remove the sanctions. here is what you can say to ms. kiru about russia's own plans to plunge the world into hunger, how realistic are they, how to avoid the lifting of sanctions from russia in exchange for ukrainian food, i returned literally several days ago from davos and the united kingdom and other european countries where i held negotiations on this very matter at the time of the world economic forum in the united nations there were grains left for 10 days to support countries in need of food support next where 10

weeks er sorry next really the world is threatened er k er crisis which will cause famine which will cause huge human losses around the world even in those countries that sorry even in countries that know nothing about ukraine and do not know what to do with it. we are of course opposed to the lifting of any sanctions from russia, we advocate the organization of a humanitarian mission that would unblock ukrainian ports in this mission to participate in the united states, great britain and other european partner countries, most likely, the representative of the united nations will participate in order to, instead of buying russian grain, lift sanctions, and eventually unblock the ports and be able to to trade ukrainian grain when i tell our international partners that closer to autumn,

ukrainian farmers will burn their harvest because we will have no place to store it and no way to export it. they are just horrified, but it is the truth. this will happen if the world does not take decisive action now. at the same time, we have to ask. and what is step two? well, let's assume that after the sanctions are lifted, let's assume that the sanctions are lifted from russia and, er, russia trades russian, as they call it, grain with the world. and what's next, what 's the strategy to continue to feed russia with one hand, to give them money with the other hand, to help ukraine fight russia, this is a road to nowhere, everyone understands this perfectly. everyone understands that there is no such simple way out of this situation. all beauties understand what i'm talking about when i say it's all a collective collective west but also a

collective south because latin american countries and african countries they are primarily interested in the fact that ukrainian grain was received by the united nations and then their countries received it further. therefore, now the main task of the western countries of our international partners is to form such a humanitarian mission and achieve through negotiation power to unblock ukrainian ports, this is the only systematic step in order to prevent hunger in this world if this russian grain will not be produced, there will not be enough to cover the entire demand systemically, ukraine will not be able to produce its entire crop and will have to burn it. what will we do next year? everyone should think about this, and therefore i am absolutely sure that er, now they are not seriously considering the issue of lifting sanctions, er, yura,

please, about the economy, so that’s what we ’re asking today. now the budget covers only a third of the expenses per month because they have gone very much, the expenses have increased on defense. what do you think about it, you know, there were a few more questions about ponamarchenko, which has already been analyzed on the internet , and i created a paycheck here in his personal affairs lviv documents but now i think we should do well, only that when the country is at war there are no right solutions and then peck the stage i am absolutely sure that now the business is doing everything possible in order to simultaneously to survive and support our plan, if you look at the expenses of the business, er, who has been

giving money to the armed forces of ukraine on his own for the last three months, you will see that er, that these are huge sums that continue to come in, and that er, people who are barely making ends meet continue to transfer to the ukrainian army what will the business do if taxes return to martial law, most likely it will either close or leave, and then our state will lose both the taxes that are paid now and the huge support that people give voluntarily without they were ordered from the mountain without uh to introduce additional military taxes, you know. recently, i spoke with a radio presenter who every day reads out the businesses that uh give money to our armed forces and he says that the list is so long that it is easier to read out who is not gives money to the armed forces and say well, let's give it too, then we will say that

everyone gives because it is true, every ukrainian now understands that the only chance for us to return to a normal life, to a normal business, to a normal existence in general, is to win the war and we do everything from our side, so some abuses are possible, but they are now minimal , maximal, the struggle is maximal, there is good will, according to which businesses, large, medium and small , transfer money to our army to our boys and girls so that they have what to eat to drink and to fight and i think that now screwing the nuts is generally good for your business, but the question is simply where to find the money to cover this financial gap in the budgets, this is the question, there are several answers and the first answer - it is working with international partners to rebuild forever, you know. when i was

abroad and talked with representatives of different countries, the main issue facing ukraine now is enormous trust and we are given enough help to close the holes that we have are in the budget, it is true that the question is whether, by some careless steps, including corrupt ones, we have not lost this trust, and it is now a question for those who serve this money, who spends this money, to make it so that there is no there are no questions about this. you understand that we have been at war for three months and we live in a completely different world for the organization of the type of international currency fund, we are all the same people who six months ago promised to appoint a sap prosecutor and did not appoint us, we are the same people who took the money, promised reforms and these they didn't do the reforms, and that's why now, er, the trust that has supposedly been restored to us because we are fighting

bravely, we are actively fighting, it is very important not to lose er, in any way, i am sure that the support in order to not line up with well, but at least not to fall into default and make ends meet, we will now receive a huge number of grant programs that are in the process and will not reach ukraine in the near future, starting with the 40 billion dollars that the united states is giving us and ending with the two billion dollars that we are currently receiving transmitted by the european union and will be transmitted further, all the countries of the european union proposed to give ukraine a different format and not the status of a candidate for membership, and the main opposition , as of now, comes from three states, this deputy prime minister of ukraine's european integration olga stefanishyna during a visit to brussels stated during a conversation with the media that this statement was made before stefanyshina did not name the states

that are against it, but they say that on june 24, none of the leaders of the european union will be able to tell ukraine let us remind you that today the president of the european parliament adopted a joint statement calling on the heads of state of the governments of the eu countries to make a decision on the application of ukraine, the republic of moldova and georgia to join the european union at the summit on june 23-24 yesterday the european parliament supported the resolution with a call to grant ukraine the status of a candidate for membership of the european union at the eu summit, expect ukraine in your opinion on june 23-24 and what will be the conclusion of the european commission, which we expect on the 17th, and what will actually be the expensive sentence for this e for this adoption when the active level by the eu member states maria, i created a formula called cautious optimism, that's what we all feel now, we

understand how difficult the task was now we are represented by ms. stefanishina, who is really doing a great job, there is a lot of opposition to the expansion of the european union, there really is a lot, no one, the children, will be able to say no to us, but they will be able to say yes, but we need it to be clear, yes , and now it is for us duda is campaigning, did you see the news that duda will be traveling now, even on wednesday, he already went to campaign for ukraine to be accepted into the european union by a huge number of people who support us, so my feeling is that i will not make any predictions now, but i will tell you that mine the feeling is cautious optimism. thank you to mrs. kira

kira rudyk, people's deputy of ukraine, head of the voice party, she was in touch with us. well, we're going to the next inclusions, in a moment we'll talk with the next guest of our broadcast. what's new during this time, actually, we see that uh, the president of russia, vladimir putin, decided that it was his destiny to return and strengthen the territories , the kremlin media reported on this. putin himself about the fact that this is the destiny of this generation to return and strengthen russia will not step on this rake that the ussr was prophesied ferguson's article again, i know mila who said on the eve of the war that putin, you are wrong when you think that hitler imagines himself with himself

stalin brezhnev, i don't know how he imagines himself as peter peter the first and don't surround him with a fence - he said, "make sure it doesn't happen that in poltava not for a day, uh, there will be some kind of anniversary of the battle of poltava this year, and he says so that this military parade was not held in poltava, well, we see that they definitely did not reach poltava. well, but they want to unite the occupied territories of a separate federal district, we already mentioned this today . these are the plans of the occupiers . but the russian propaganda resource writes that the so-called supreme court of the dpr made the first decision regarding foreign fighters who defended ukraine in the so-called dpr, they are called mercenaries, these are two citizens of great britain and one of morocco.

in fact, they were sentenced to the death penalty. well, we will see. we talked about it with vadim denisenko about the risks of such decisions in russia. which actually can , in this way, create yet another reason for its own population to talk about terrorism in ukraine and how russia effectively punishes it, but to remove any responsibility from oneself because it is not russia, not the state duma, such a decision is made by the dpr. and what is the dpr? henchmen of responsibility for violating the geneva conventions, and zero for them, well, that's what they think, but in reality we see that it won't be like that, that the whole world is now talking about a tribunal for

putin and everyone can see what it really looks like and who is behind the giving of orders to the puppets in the so-called dnr and e well, actually, i don't know, i can't believe that the british will suffer in the dnr, to be honest, it seems to me that great britain can, you know, there are some people there, idiots, you know, somewhere there africa and there, that is, i was just thinking to andriyu , concluding the essay, the reply was also great britain, because if something similar happens to its citizens as a result of putin's criminal actions, it can completely unblock any decisions regarding the provision of long-range weapons to ukraine and regarding those things the nuclear blackmail that putin is currently using in relation to the collective approach to ukraine, it can be directed at the

russian federation itself in the case of such decisions by the so-called dpr, it is quite possible. time will tell how they say, you know, we will use the journalistic stamp a-ah, mr. igor, how much do we have access to you? this is a question that won me over three months ago. they formulated it very well. by the way, i am darka and girna. and the question is very simple. the marathon is informational and performs some very important functions or tasks , but in essence it consists of three oligarchic groups of channels that cooperate, including in informational content, agree on some of their own. the flow of information with the office of the president and the government represented by the city of culture and so on, and on the other hand, this is

ok , this is another story. which is in ukraine. the question is that a public broadcaster also participates in this information marathon. here is the question: does it correspond to the mission of the public broadcaster ? i think this question is actually quite difficult because let's be honest, our legislation is basically not that much for martial law, that is, the fact that we have everything is banal, open the law on television and radio broadcasting, but everything related to war, and it, uh, consists of one article and

two short ones the sentence is called speech in special circumstances, and further, during a state of emergency or martial law in ukraine or some of its territories, in accordance with the law, a special mode of speech in the visual media of the mass may be established information is determined by the law. that is, it is all in reality. why did this happen? well, first of all, because the current laws governing the field of television and radio broadcasting are a law in their spirit . and since then, in fact, this law well, it is more reminiscent of a cookie cutter, when it has some squares of triangles sewn into it. well, but this does not add to the integrity, but the same thing, somewhere

now we have a bill about media in one or another from the appeal of television, radio broadcasting editions of these there have already been a lot of editors in the last 10 years, because actually i have been participating in the working group since 2012 , in the yard in 2022, imports are currently there and the draft law on the media could be regulated to some extent, at least there are sections related to military aggression, restrictions on state content, and so on дальше well, this was not accepted, again, everyone, every group of subjects in the media market has their own motivations. well, for example, online media does not want this law or the name was so good, there is no regulation at all, and there is some media on them and the question is conditional. who is there and so on? someone is afraid of the regulator, in principle, deep pains, because we really had quite a lot of pages in the activities of the national council, especially

the year 2004 can be remembered. day 2010 also raises a lot of questions from history. the implementation of incoming digital broadcasting regarding the marathon regarding martial law well , by and large, if we look at those restrictions that are specified in the presidential decree, they talk about what can limit freedom of speech, i would say that the ukrainian war is definitely certain to a certain extent, not only national and international standards should be reconsidered, because everything already happens quite online, we know information not only from traditional media, but also from telegram channels, and unfortunately, sometimes information appears there that was worth waiting for and faster, but telegram is not regulated by anything e- well, in general, the nature of this social network is 4 courts. it is not quite a social network, it is a separate huge issue, and i told you that it is both an

instrument of opportunity and an instrument of huge threats to public broadcasting, well actually itself the marathon essentially united all broadcasters on one broadcasting line. and here the situation arises that the public must be responsible for its own part of the work, i.e. the fragment of the broadcasting which it conducts and here, well, at least i. let's put it this way, i don't watch the marathon from the general national form, i watch in regional marathon is more interesting to me because my colleagues who have now been forced to move from kyiv , but provide broadcasting and give access from all points, including even the purchased kherson, for me, this is exactly the fulfillment of the mission of public broadcasting, that is, to show a picture, to talk about various and rather painful issues, eh. you can say that the presenters are also quite unhappy, because

they are also connected with certain risks, or she, conventionally speaking, is made up of public broadcasting, which has a special purpose, and commercial broadcasting, which has another goal, yes, formally, all media in our country should give non-engaged for objectively balanced information. well, let's be honest, this is rarely followed, especially when the interests of the owners of the instruments are included, so i will not say that i'm happy with such a combination, but we can say that considering the fact that now it's not even extraordinary because of the martial law and in principle the state could generally produce all the broadcasters, say sorry we have military censorship, well, it's a certain compromise that obviously many people don't like but it is probably still better than what we will have. there was nothing. i want to remind you that, for example , during the second world war, the soviet regime

and the nazi regime generally hit the population and i understood, i understood you, i just don't understand why we have to choose between the nazi and the bolshevik regimes, all of our war for freedom in fact and we already have to talk about it from the media right of the center for democracy and the rule of law, get in touch with us well, i personally would like to see espresso tv channel returned to the digital air and corrected this epic assessment, of course, it is illegal, and the outrageous situation that has been going on since april 4th when our tv channel was disconnected from digital broadcasting without clear and understandable explanations, and by the way, they asked the president until the end of the broadcast radio svoboda is taking us away, but now we will continue in our next broadcast.

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