they have a different mentality. in my opinion, mentality actually does not play a role here, some other things play a role in your opinion, which well, here are a few questions , in fact, in order to say i remember this article by portnikov and it seemed to me to be very fair, very correct caution to ukrainians and it hasn't lost its relevance, let's imagine a situation when putin is overthrown as a result of a palace coup and comes to power, well, some conditional khodorkovsky who appeals to the west come on guys live amicably, how does the west react, it is not necessary, it immediately forgets about ukraine and immediately prays for a new

democratic government of russia, so this version of this and the line is still relevant, i do not think that the west has fully realized what an existential threat russia is in the current borders as an empire and why did the russian civil society not work , i.e. apart from the mentality, are there other reasons, it is clear that during the war we build the worst versions of how russian society lives, ukrainians must know how to remove their stress and they remove it because of the search for the most abusive words to describe er russia i understand that i resort to it myself

er nearby but despite that if we hmm think about russian society then we think about a society that has two stereotypes don't you see well first perception er is that i am a small person i can't do anything against such a er powerful state er james sher- a british er columnist compared russia and ukraine in this way he said in russia a powerful state weak civil society in ukraine a weak state is a powerful one civil society so, russians do not feel the power of civil society

properly, because it is lacking and the greatness of the state seems insurmountable, that is, they will not do anything, we are too small people, and the second thing that greatly affects the way of thinking of russians it's the fact that in the russian identity, is n't the most important element is the state, not morality , injustice, not anything, the state, the presence of a state is a prerequisite for russia's pride and peace, russia does not respect foreign countries and foreign state borders, of course, are not respected, because the greatness of the russian state means that everyone around it is afraid of it. the thing is that all this greatness of russian

culture, all these lofty words about russia, have come down to the fact that well, to put it conventionally, yes, we are in trouble, but we everyone is afraid of this because of that, everyone is afraid of us, this is widely spread in the paper of many russians, if we observe russians there conditionally according to russian bloggers or according to the news that is published or according to surveys of people that are conducted on the street , then we see how they repeat the wording of the cold war, the west is so bad, we all can do everything by ourselves. thanks to putin. thanks to our authoritarian leader who leads us and what can we change, that is, in fact, they remain in the mentality of the soviet union. despite the camps they went through, despite the beginning of the human rights movement, they still

remain in this soviet soviet psychology. i think there are two levels here, the first level is that they cannot condemn the soviet union because the era of the soviet union was an era greatness, everyone was afraid of the soviets something. the soviet union was the second er superpower, there is something to be proud of, accordingly, condemn stalin for what, because he was a powerful leader. look at how putin takes an example from stalin. that is, this is the first layer, but i would also suggest looking deeper e-e russia appeared on the world map as a state with the idea of ​​a third rome, a third rome that opposes

the first and you know this as imprinting, it is like a matrix on which this state grew and it will be with it as long as this state will exist, russians think of themselves as opponents of the west, they are fed by the west, that is, they know that philosophy is a phenomenon, my dear, i take you as an example, but i also hate you . political scenery, but this anti-western orientation will remain in the mentality of russians for a long time. actually, can we say that because the west, the civilized world of the un did not condemn the crimes against humanity committed by the soviet

state, in fact, this is what caused the war here i don't just agree with your words , here in my position there is just so much pain because we political prisoners shouted about it, we shout about it all the time not because we want to condemn our offenders, they have already left from this world, we want to condemn the communist system because it was not condemned in the same way that the nazi system was condemned, which is why the seeds remain in the ground all the time and they germinate .

then in yalta they said yes, for security reasons, we need to come to an understanding with the soviet union , let's forget all this, we are building a new new one, yes, the new world was built, the dissidents went to other camps, the soviet union ended so well, the soviet union fell, was there an investigation of crimes, was anyone even brought to justice there was repentance, and all nations, not only russian, at the time of the fall of the soviet union, ukrainians also had to repent, because they lived under the communist system just as well, but this was not carried out today, all the seeds left in the ground have

sprouted in the form of putin's regime, and that's why my constant appeal these days to the west is don't make another mistake, don't conclude a peace treaty with russia to protect the poor people as soon as possible. because people are suffering, you need to do it as soon as possible. -e conclude a peace treaty on will return if you leave this force in power in i don't know in a few years now the decades are going fast now in years to come we will have new victims and that's the real question eh or hm if we now when there will be a tribunal over russia that will relate to the war that began in 2014, is this or will this tribunal be a chance to condemn the

communist state and the soviet union and all the crimes of the soviet union, but how then should it be condemned because if we are talking about the war in ukraine since 2014. yes, we are talking about the relations between the imperial aggressor state and ukraine, but other countries also suffered from the union, that is, how should this be resolved? well, i cannot say all this in legal terms, because i am not a lawyer, but i i would think of two tribunals eh, the first tribunal regarding putin's russia and here i would consider specific war crimes eh mm and on the basis of these crimes i eh would condemn putin's russia eh as for the condemnation of the communist system eh i think that the

role of russia is primarily key here, but we should also join, it should be, you know, there should be a big meeting like this, a big round table, for all the communist nations, with the participation of many western communists, because the event is the participation of the event in the -e-e victories in the triumph of communism it was very big, they also have their own fault. therefore, it should be a wide, wide circle that should draw a line under this period, and condemn these crimes, and the main thing is to analyze where these crimes came from, why what is in the communist ideology

that gives rise to these crimes, we are talking about analysis crimes, i want to ask you, as a former human rights defender, since 2014, there has been a war on the territory of ukraine, a war is being waged, part of the territory is under occupation, and now a full-scale invasion has begun, were you ready at all human rights organizations around the world until a war begins in europe and before a full-scale invasion of russia in accordance with the correct, correct fixation of everything that russia is doing now, i think about the human rights organizations were not ready for this, but i would not make it easy for them to explain that why they were not ready is not because they imagined such a rosy picture that putin's regime would suddenly become

democratic, but because in the west all politicians and people are simple and pro-war defenders, including i am convinced, they were convinced that ukraine very quickly it will happen that russia will really enter kyiv victoriously and there will be no such crimes, not because putin's regime is good, but because all of ukraine will obey instantly and there is nothing to fix. for the whole world, it was a complete shock to see how this supposedly small weak david defeats a huge goliath and actually the moments when we started to win, that is, human rights organizations have now joined and are actively working, are there cases when, like with the

red cross, they refuse to join eh? i think that there are still many eh human rights defenders organizations that work. i know that they play a very active role. even our human rights defenders, the kharkiv human rights group, hmm, they do. i also do not rule out that our general prosecutor's office works on this, because otherwise, well, if she did not work, then it would the question once came up, what were you doing at this time? you don't have different things. i hope that in the near future. yes, we will achieve victory, but then another cross will fall on us. in fact, it is a long one . unfortunately, the process of reconstruction is not only physical , but we understand now. that most institutions of ukrainians do not work according to their main

duties, so they retrained, some of them, let's say, sculpture managers, became volunteers and sort humanitarian aid, someone is standing now protecting weapons with weapons in their hands. in other words, we will all return, in fact, with post- traumatic syndrome, and in fact, in peacetime, we will return with him and what should be the main points of the ukrainians that they should pay attention to so that everything works as soon as possible after the victory everything will depend on the spirit with which light or dark we will come out of this war and what affects this spirit will have a very strong effect on this spirit will we not grow discontent hatred reproach in the whole world what will dominate us if we

allow these emotions we will lose we will destroy our own spirit let's see today, the reason for our success is that our spirit is bright and this is a gift from god, you understand. if we keep our spirit bright, we will rebuild our state, our country. well, in a few years it will be a beautiful country, it will be an economic tiger in the future in the world, all this can happen under one condition, we must continue to be warriors of light, warriors of good. and how to remain them, your advice, that is, what not to allow, because it is clear that the war is on

one side, so that is, especially the first days, we were bright because we, that is we were led by righteous anger, yes, yes. there are certain things that again evoke on righteous days and the desire to gain freedom, but at other times, let's say when, for example, there are no sirens for a couple of hours, we start quarreling on social networks, let's say there how immigrants should behave or how those who return to kyiv should behave , or their information, the beliefs of those who tell the truth, those who tell the truth, that is, how to stay clean in general, that is, how to stay bright, you actually mentioned social networks and you did correctly. i am not a supporter of -e restrictions on freedom of speech, but i would be very happy if, for some technical reasons, social networks

did not work after our victory. well, for a year or two, because we would not have e-e platforms in which we would spew out our rage and infect others with this rage and you look at how it all looks on facebook, we are infecting, we do not realize that every post like this is hateful, it affects our actions, it is soul -destroying, i really stopped reading facebook, i post some of my things there, but i stopped reading the feed i it's just that i feel that i'm poisonous , poisoned by a whole hour of reading and i'm gone. thank you, mr. myroslav, for this conversation. i'll remind you that this is a special project of the tv channel ua culture. we

talked with myroslav marinovych. let's all stay on the bright side. let's know what we are. we are doing everything for a reason and that soon there will be a great reconstruction of a good country that will impress everyone and i think that the victory will come very, very quickly in just one week in ukraine there were 34 cases of death from the coronavirus disease among them there was one child about this during the briefing the chief sanitary doctor igor kuzin said how much longer the pandemic will last and about the infections that may arise, revelations about all this in an interview with anastasia, the poet oksana above, congratulations, i recently saw the news in oos about the coronavirus and a little, well, i really remembered that this pandemic still exists in some places, experts say that it will last for at least five years, what do you think about this , in what form it will be infectious diseases

? yes, the causative agents of infectious diseases will always wait for the opportunity to survive in the human body, and in addition to cooking and they will always look for something for themselves, some certain things, in order to continue their life, well, that is why, little by little, a person will do everything in order to protect himself from those infections, and there will be a virus or a bacterium will do in order to survive, therefore, of course, the corona virus exists and will exist, but we have to minimize it and protect our lives, what steps can these be? well, we have enough of this. coronavirus that found a vaccine after all and we saved a lot of lives because the vaccine saved us from a severe course of the disease when we had a severe course of the disease a high

percentage of people were seriously ill before the vaccine when vaccinations started we still had morbidity yes, but the cases in the hospital, the ones that happened were severe, those that were not vaccinated, now almost nobody on the street follows the mask regime, but the number of sick people is fortunately less, why are there no large gatherings of people? i understand that now there is a war and there are gatherings there where there are local outbreaks of infection , that is, and when, including, that is, but they are not so widespread, that is, mass events have been canceled in our country. such as concerts, e-e, in schools, to date, they have switched to distance learning, all yes, very often, all infectious diseases first spread among children of preschool age, because these are groups that actively communicate with each other, children of course never follow the rules like that well, as you wish

, the spread of various diseases always begins among them, and then it goes on on adults. therefore, we have many factors for it to decrease, but the main factor why it decreased is because even if there are cases of the disease, it has turned into a milder course. and as you know, everyone knows that a milder course of some yes, a person has a respiratory disease, he just has to stay at home, but he no longer goes anywhere, he is not tested, that is why it remains, let’s say, it was not diagnosed at first . there is not always access to some human benefits , intestinal infections really now, first of all , there are two factors that contributed to the fact that there are many people who cannot follow certain dietary rules

yes, the rules of personal hygiene, and the second factor is the temperature, which contributes to the development of intestinal infections , when in the winter, e.e., food products could be. yes, there was a sub-zero temperature on the streets, but they did not spoil, so to this day, in order for them not to spoil , appropriate conditions are needed and it is not always possible, but we know that intestinal infections can be easily overcome, that you need to wash your hands, eat foods that have been washed, that are kept at the appropriate temperature conditions, so if we have there, a certain cheese was not stored in the cold and there is some pathogen in it, so there we have it, for example, tselmuleva. so, if it is warm there, let’s say the time of year, it multiplies very quickly there, so come down and a person uses it, and unfortunately, certain such local outbreaks can actually occur

intestinal infection spreads, let's say, among those who, well, that is, they consumed some food together, or were together somewhere, well, that is, drank water of some unknown origin, which is interesting, by 30% this year the number of people suffering from intestinal infections has increased in lviv oblast, and it is among lviv residents who are not internally displaced persons - no, it is among lviv residents that lviv residents apply for medical help. what is an intestinal infection? well, she doesn't feel well, and she usually goes to her family doctor, registers and submits a report. yes, there are probably just as many cases among internally displaced people, especially in other countries, for example regions and everything else, well, that is, but not always , they can all turn to uh for quality

medical care, give some recommendations on how to live in shelters now, when you don't have the opportunity to boil water, you don't have water in principle in some places if we are temporary kriti, there is an opportunity to limit eh in your diet and you, well, that is, your health allows you not to eat if there is an opportunity, of course, you get from different food use drier food products that, let's say, usually do not spoil well the best thing is to have a supply of water. if there is tested ventilated water, then of course it is factory water, this is the best option, but if there is no possibility , make sure that you bring the water to a boil. boiling kills the pathogens of many infections . is there a threat of an infection now in ukraine, looking at the fact that many people

live in shelters in some places, you do not have access to basic hygiene products, except for intestinal infections, our airborne infections are in shelters, if , for example, with intestinal infections, we will also wash them there hands, let's not use food products. they don't spread like that. air is a droplet of infection. they spread perfectly among people. and the only way to fight the main air droplet infections is this vaccination . measles, rubella, mumps, poliomyelitis, diphtheria. this is a very serious disease. because it gives, for example, a 50% mortality rate if you get sick, but uh, when vaccination came, these vaccines were found, we now only see isolated cases, if we stop vaccination against these infections now, we will make it possible that those viruses and bacteria will continue to exist, and unfortunately, everyone is very afraid of this

, because almost everyone in the world has overcome these diseases . mandatory and this is a 9-infection vaccine, it is available with the help of a-a ministry of health is distributed to all regions e-e which, well, maybe yes, which are working now, where do family doctors work lviv region rivne region as far as i know there in the ternopil region, there are also such mobile brigades, where medical workers go to points where internally displaced persons are and study their vaccination status and carry out vaccinations if necessary, and now probably the biggest disaster is in mariupol, in particular because of the water. there are practically no people working there. they are not always accessible to people, so there is an

opportunity to receive humanitarian aid , but the easiest way is boiling, according to mayor vadym boychenko, he says that there are now about 50 corpses under each rubble, why is a mortuary dangerous before the war, you know that there are rules where you can build a cemetery so where can you build a toilet where can you build sewage pipes yes and where are the pipes that, say , supply water so drinkable that's all the rules are built for that, so that, after all, there were not, let's say, some of these different diseases, so we used high-quality water . drinking water can get let's say the causative agents of various diseases, these are various infectious diseases, hepatitis a, cholera, and other intestinal infections, and if

people start to get sick, it will lead to the fact that they need to provide medical care until the end of medical care, now it is not possible to provide it there if it were to be granted, it could unfortunately shorten their lives, and this is this is very . we can study and what infections were e what kind of things did people get sick, how did they get sick, if it was n't for the bombing, we actually raised the ground with those shells, so this one is also in the ground. that is , we usually monitor this in ordinary life here, we cannot monitor it all, and it can lead to that there will still be such an infectious disaster , we can say that if we wear masks, relatively speaking, against gases, it can somehow stop all this, the only

thing we have to remember is that if we are sick, try , well, that is, not to be at home, not to go out anywhere not infecting other people is not the only concern in mariupol, this applies to different, er, you can say all regions, because if one person is sick and you can, say, so easily transfer it, and someone else can transfer this disease very hard, if you still need to go out somewhere, er, according to the rules, you even have to wear a mask on the patient because the patient has if he is very