a lot of humanitarian aid comes from here precisely at the level of the state, armored mulans, medicine generators, a field hospital, in lviv, fairy tales, a bulletproof vest, and well, a lot of other things, naturally, a lot of people gather и подвижается личный или не личный или organized , in fact, the aid is coming, uh, not enough military aid is coming, and uh, and it's wrong, on the monster, ah, and here even our ambassador mentioned that israel promised to provide armored vests and promised to help the wounded soldiers to invite them to try on theses and that he noted that even this was not done, what do you think , why even in the plan of medical care there is, you know , this, this, this pause, er, well, there is no pause, because er, the

hospital in ukraine works there constantly israeli medical personnel eh речёт идёт вышении медицинской помощи и насколько я приняжии ето будет ресшено ресшено время see also if returning to military issues at the beginning of the war there was a conversation about such a thing called pegasus eh it's a spy program so at one time, when there was a request for this program, israel also forbade it to be provided, and i wonder what the reason might be, because this program is very well known, but i read about its capabilities. it allows you to listen to a mobile phone, and even when you use it you don't use it, you can turn on the camera, you can listen to everything that happens around you,

you can read instant messengers. i didn't even imagine that there really are such programs that are like in the movies , uh, yes, uh, and uh, and there are such programs, that's why uh, for example, the israeli army we don't attend any important meeting, we just hand them over, and only then do we discuss about pegasus, pegasus, and the company of the developer whose programs recently got involved in serious international scandals. now they are under investigation, so i rather connect it with this than with other reasons. and the final question is, what do you think can happen, what should happen in order for the israeli authorities to leave this zone? comfort about which our ambassador spoke and began

to make some concrete movements in the direction of ukraine and fulfill the will of the people, as you say, because you say that the people really want to help ukraine, and a political decision is needed from the authorities, what should happen, who should move this stone, this is a complicated question, that's why there is no unity in this issue, there are ministers who advocate more serious, including military aid to ukraine, who are trying to balance on some level with russia, but it is impossible to balance quickly, in my opinion them israelis who usually congratulate you are your eyes, well , how can i say that i was at the rallies of the support of ukraine in tel aviv, where there were more than 20,000 people, and the opposition rallies in

support of russia, they collected the bill, what should will happen well, for example, anu already happens, eh, the israeli went to moscow, had a very difficult conversation with the minister of foreign affairs of russia just the other day, and the russians wrote about it because russia is very dissatisfied with israel's position on ukrainian of the conflict, eh, the war in ukraine, and israel condemned, eh , russia's invasion of ukraine, israel called things by their names, they called war crimes war crimes, and of course, russia warms me, i am happy, i voted in om, of course, support of ukraine, eh, and russia is not satisfied with this expresses his dissatisfaction, that is, here, um, there may be such a conflict that will unleash somewhere

in the game, that is, it remains to wait for this point of inflection when it will really untie the hands, uh , viktor, i thank you aa for these comments thank you very much, victor, vrtsnerov , the officers of the israeli army were in touch with us, but we will be back in a moment. revival of the unbreakable well, continuing our conversation with the expert, i will remind you of the topic of the iron dome. i

propose to understand how this system works and whether it would be effective in our realities. vadim hrinko told the story, we will return later and let's discuss it with an expert, the sounds of sorans and massive explosions, the sky over israel is often lit not by stars , but by rockets, usually it comes from the gaza strip, less often from the morning or from libya, however, almost no projectiles reach the ground, as in this video, they all explode. this is how the iron system works in the air. the dome is israel's own development, although it was created with the significant support of the united states, it has been in service for 11 years and during this time it has shown a significant efficiency of 90% on average, this is one of the highest indicators among ppu iron systems the dome protects the settlements of israel day and night in any weather, hail storms, thunderstorms and

storms are not scary for this system, the iron dome consists of three main components of the radar , which in just a few minutes detects a missile launched in its radius of action, the command center that analyzes the information and determines where the missile flies, the third component is the launcher itself. it can launch 20 interceptor missiles in one salvo, however, this will happen only when the command center confirms that the missiles are flying in populated areas or strategic objects, etc., the iron dome simply ignores the task, it helps to save valuable missiles, the cost of one can reach 100,000 dollars, the iron dome really works almost perfectly, however, it is designed only for short distances up to 80 km and rather primitive missiles, the system would not work neither russian caliber

iskanders nor any other long- range missiles of the iron dome system. it protects the cities of israel from slow e-e missiles that fly slowly for a short distance and are made in garages in the neighboring territories with which they are at war. and this is not a solution to the issue of protecting our strategic objects, such as a nuclear power plant or an airfield , which is clearly stated in recent years. israel refused to purchase romania and baijan from many countries due to difficulties with the export of defense technologies. well, actually, will the israeli air defense system save us or can it save us, taking into account the varieties of which graters which is being used by the enemy. let's talk with a military expert, oleksandr musienko, a military expert is joining us, mr. oleksandr, and

we wish you a good morning. and please tell me, in your opinion , is there a system that can be as effective or more effective in procurement, well, look, we need to get out of what tasks are ahead of us, challenges from threats to get out of our realities, yes, iskanders are just one of the challenges that such a system as dome a solves for us is artillery shelling, for example, jet with alcohol systems, he uses quiet, for example, tornadoes that are capable of hitting targets from up to 80 km away and with which the enemy fires at the city of kharkiv, mykolaiv, mykolaiv oblast and some of our other regions, but only where he tries to lead the artillery, where he succeeds, it takes hours and the second stage is some ballistic years but not all, that is, in principle

, all the tasks that this complex for tasks is capable of solving, for such purposes, it is good, it is effective, but there are two points: first, it is not known how it will behave with such an intensity of russian the fire conducted by the enemy must also be understood, it is high intensity, and the second question is, what should we do with the other types of missiles that the russian federation of ukraine attacks? and the eu 300 comes out no it does not work it is not effective some 300 s300 is a long-range complex it is a completely different system or the p3 system or any other they operate from 100 km this system we have a date to hit missiles that are fired from a distance of approximately 80 -100 km are cruise missiles effective for israel? it

cannot hit all types of missiles, such as the kha-101, with which ukraine is being fired upon. such missiles as, for example, the caliber, which is also cruise missiles and is launched from the black sea, and other types of rocket launchers are needed against them. such complexes , if we are talking about the average radius of action, these are complexes like sams, norwegian, american, these are the complexes of the same german irises, and this is if we are talking about the average radius of action, if we are talking about the long radius, and this is the european system there and or there is the american petri system, in principle if we are talking about the fact that we have lend-lease prospects and wide opportunities open up before us. therefore, the most likely and most likely thing to do is, let’s say, the stop was on our system of medium range because such systems

are in service, in particular and in the united states, accordingly, they are integrated with petriv ot systems and form a single air defense shield of the state, which is also good from this point of view, and they can counteract almost any kind of missiles and air targets, drones, and so on, etc., so it is probably worth emphasizing this system, as well as the same systems, the german iris, the principle of the missile, it also provides protection against cruise missiles, and also against aviation, well, for us on today, the most urgent challenge facing us is the protection of e-e from enemy missiles, if we are talking about protecting us from enemy aircraft, everything is more or less not bad here, because we have the appropriate complexes that are precisely sharpened, what is called the fight against enemy aircraft, but as far as missiles are concerned, we would like

very appropriate modifications that are capable of hitting missiles against now we see this is one of the important turns and it is russia that is simply actively using the dome - it is one of the elements that is capable of protecting and performing certain tasks perform effectively enough and quite well, but obviously, taking into account the whole level of threats, we should look closely and consider other types of systems that in the future should be integrated into a single system that covers the ukrainian sky. your opinion, what kind of systems do we have the most realistic opportunity to get well, uh, we need to start from that uh, first of all, we need to start from two three criteria, one criterion, we have definitely already discussed this

level of threats, we are facing something, this is absolutely clear, it is cruise missiles - these are ballistic missiles, these are drones and aviation, the most we need, of course, are windmills, the second is how many such systems are currently available in the warehouses of ukrainian manufacturers or operators, as well as how quickly they are ready to transfer them, and the third is of course, the readiness in the future to deliver systems of different types of action that would be integrated with each other, that is, they would make up one chain of the system of the medium radius of action and the long radius of the court, so i think i allow that it is possible. it is worth paying attention to the same complexes on sounds that we have with the help of lend-lease to continue and get patriots to integrate together but again here we need to proceed from the quantity that is available as soon as they

can deliver or then we can already talk about the same iristi which, for example, germany promised us well, about the irish people, i think you know how the ministry of foreign affairs has already noted that we will obviously not receive them before winter, so here is the question of whether we are getting a political solution at all here, and here i am sorry, i will just say that it is necessary to understand that air defense systems, anti-aircraft missile complexes, unfortunately it cannot be said that they can be obtained in a week or two, this is still a process, the fact that we received soviet samples such as the s300 - it is clear to us that they can simply be delivered, we use them, while others still need to be manufactured in some places and then also trained accordingly of our military therefore, this is also a process, alexander , and we still have a minute and a half left. well, i am from

you as a military expert. i would like to hear your opinion on the situation at the front. and where, according to your prognostications, will the epicenter of powerful hostilities. where are we moving next? it is already defined in principle, it is concentrated, it is somewhere in 2-3 points. the first direction is, of course, sevredynets. and uh, next is the direction to bakhmut. russian troops will try to leave. the second direction is that they activated the offensive, and it was there, and from the east along the e-e, these are the main main directions where the most controversial record form, where do you think they can transfer the troops from in order to support the group that is trying to go to bakhmut, and i think that they will all go from the direction of zaporizhzhia, kherson they are from there, it is already obvious that

considering the fact that the enemy is not currently conducting active combat offensives there with the exception of artillery shelling, it is obvious that they are being dropped from there, that is, the ukrainian troops have a chance in the southern directions, well, theoretically so we see that we are already to some extent using this chance successfully in kherson, for example . thank you very much, mr. oleksandr, for at least this kind of understanding of the front-line situation. oleksandr musienko , a military expert, was in touch with us. military analysts, the armed forces of ukraine work according to modern standards and strategies, russia still uses the principles of the second world war, what methods were used in the first and second researched by kateryna danylovich the first world war significantly changed approaches to the conduct of hostilities in general, in the years 1914-1918, the

decisive role of economy and technology , i.e. the business support of countries, became apparent. the four-year war militarized all enterprises, i.e. they put them on military rails. world military operations on the western front during the first world war were the first and one of the most significant examples of the conduct of the so-called trench or positional war by the opposing sides approximately equal in combat equipment with weapons and equipment, and therefore in military power, they are not able to break through the enemy's defenses, accordingly, months-long exchanges of blows from the trenches begin, attempts to break through the defenses with a high concentration of artillery on the battlefield, each such attack attempt cost huge victims during the first world war with the concept of a curtain of fire or a barrage of fire appeared, simultaneous continuous fire of artillery in the direction of enemy positions also expanded the very front of military operations, they began to be conducted even in the air and under water were used for the first time

chemical weapons of mass destruction were reorganized and the forces to carry out operations to defeat the enemy had to unite several armies in the company of 1915, two types of operations, offensive and defensive , were clearly formed. the front line of the front, after which the infantry attacked with the support of armored vehicles, the defense was broken through , and the enemy was surrounded, eliminated, or the enemy retreated, but still under the threat of encirclement motorization of the infantry led to changes in the tactics of combat, it became clear that the mobility of combat units played a key role in the performance of tasks in the second world war. germany first began to use ballistic missiles such as f1 and vau-2, bombing english cities and areas of crimea. are the territories conquered by the allies possible ? both world wars showed the problems

of fighting on more than a few fronts, because the indecision and uncertainty in choosing the direction of the main strike scattered the armed forces and their incorrect distribution between the fronts seriously hindering the achievement of goals kateryna danylovych the only news marathon rostislav hunter military historian associate professor of the national defense academy joins our broadcast and i congratulate you mr. rostislav, you also had the opportunity to watch this small material together with us, but here i would actually like to understand which one you see eh hmm the principle of paralleling the principles of the first and second world wars, which are used now in the modern russian-ukrainian war, glory to ukraine, congratulations, you know, it seemed that the answer was simple, why so at this time, the russian army is fighting, but everything is much

more complicated, it’s not just that they can’t and don’t know how to fight in any other way here. in fact, everything is much more complicated. the nature of war, military actions are determined by a low factor. well, for example, the state of the economy, a number of purely military factors . military art is the theory and practice of training the state and the armed forces of ukraine, the headquarters, it has three components , strategy, operational art and tactics, all these issues are interconnected russian history has a lot of program wars, although the principle of fighting not with numbers but with skill has always been asserted,

but practice shows that it often turned out the other way around, that is, if that’s actually how it happens. so why do they fight with numbers a and that’s the point. well , first of all, it’s… only the art of military leadership, we are ukrainians and of this time. yes, you correctly appreciated them, so research the version, especially the jumpers of your children . the audience can't hear yes please continue like this yes they are fighting according to the principles of the second world war why because in this war it ended victoriously for them and this experience seems to be uh for them uh uh shun as shown by

other wars especially the last time of the war in chechnya, for example, this is especially the first chechen war, and the beginning of the russian-ukrainian war, everything went wrong, if their plans are killed, they do not know how to adapt, there is a significant difference, and in general , in the management of troops, let's say with nato countries there the commander takes responsibility and fights in a real-time mode in the russian army, and there is no such thing in the russian army, although the state of armaments, it must be said, was significant, but as soon as they lose this advantage, they immediately disappear and show their weakness in the introduction of military actions, probably in

that and the reason that now, according to our intelligence, the heads of the generals are flying from putin , and look, we only have three minutes left . i have a very important question for you: war crimes as a method of waging war, do you see it now parallels with earlier wars and modern ones. you know , until the 20th century, this system did not rise at all. in the first world war, there were also not such significant ones, but in the second after the second world war, these methods, that is, many more people were killed, free people than soldiers, for example, we can draw parallels with the soviet troops when they entered the country and not only pressed germany, hungary, but also poland and even

ukraine, they committed crimes and they usually turned a blind eye to these crimes but they had no single and mass character, therefore it is not surprising that it is precisely and graphically ukrainians, which is unique , in fact, it is not similar to all the methods of the first and second world wars and the post-war period and armed conflicts of the second half of the 20th century and this is also a hybrid war, including actually hybrid methods. do you see any similarities, were there similar hybrid methods before, of course there were, but to say that in the second world war they were decisive , by no means they made up only a small part. and now

hybridity goes into war preparations and information propaganda operations, i.e. hybridity acquires more and more signs of this war . well, i still have time to ask you the last question, what do you think about the actual russian terrorist army, it deliberately violates these laws and customs of waging war on its why do they need it? please repeat the law of ukraine. the russian army deliberately violates the laws of war. the high command and so on, but this is, first of all, a cement feature. unfortunately, as experience shows, let's say hungary in 1956, czechoslovakia in 1968

, there were also such projects. it's probably still mental, but if there are such documents that confirm that these specialists are from the higher society, so they will definitely have to be brought to the specialty, so actually you said something important about the mentality and about the evidence, the evidence was published by the sbu, so who actually allow them to do this and give instructions, thank you very much for this conversation is growing pilavets, a military historian and associate professor of the national defense of ukraine, was in touch with us. there was a short pause, and then the news will be re-drilled, re-stitched, we will win and shields, no news. together, we are strong. the unconquered cities of ukraine are cozy kherson, the pearl of protected areas, in which

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