details about how it happened in the kherson region in the conditions of a full-scale russian invasion of ukraine, e.e. zaporizhzhia became a logistics hub for people fleeing the war from the regions of the kherson region occupied by russia, in particular, and the zaporizhia region, journalists from radio svoboda visited the reception point for forced migrants in zaporizhzhia and asked how they got from the occupied cities and what exactly is happening in the occupation and vaccination, we have no green corridors. we are very worried about our city because of those whom we they left and told their friends what kind of association i have, that in all the cities of ukraine , a bandit came, hit the wall, destroyed it, left, and we have such an insidious, affectionate maniac who smiles and pulls him into that car, and we were in such a state for more than three months in kherson, so of course, when friends we offered, we didn't go

, we waited for liberation, we saw our guys at our first roadblock, we cried, we sat, we sat, we cried. mom is going from kyrylivka with friends, well, she left around 5:00 in the morning. and now we have kotra 19:35 well, we drove for more than 12 hours from novotroitske, kherson region. we drove to melitopol, and from melitopol to vasilivka, to say that it was so heavy, it was not heavy. there were probably about 10 of these russians there. i can't complain about them, the situation is more or less not bad, it's novotroitska, we're there, they're practically not there, we don't even have blue flags

hanging, although now we were just leaving, and collaborators have already passed there, already there, and now we're already in charge will be in charge of our novotroitsk community, they will be in charge. well, people are collaborators. i don't know exactly who was there. one was named, now the other is there, and we went to our place. there is no communication and we can't contact even our close neighbors there. vasilivka and stood still, they turned us back the second time we arrived in melitopol, they called us and said that they were being shelled and returned back again and decided to leave for the third time , it turned out that we are in the melitopol district in the village well, it was quiet just hard well, as you know, strangulation , that’s how it’s all occupation. well, what’s good about them, that we shoot everything, he’s very hard morally, too

, our traveler got to my father, somewhere they didn’t want to take him as a husband, somewhere they didn’t miss it, and so it turned out that for more than a month i was in but kherson was lucky with the people and they brought me. i was in the kherson region, the village of zaliznyi port, and we were immediately cut off from kherson and could only get there after a month and a half. and after russia appeared there, or whoever it is in kherson and it's so expensive, it took time, the situation how can you tell that people are still holding on well, there are already those who are ready to work, but it's still

annoying, people are very tense, everything else is very much waiting for when they will get russian president volodymyr in the teeth putin compared himself to peter the great and the invasion of ukraine in the northern war such historical parallels putin made after visiting the exhibition dedicated to the 350th anniversary of the birth of peter the great, the russian president said that since those times nothing changed, because at that time the emperor waged a war with sweden, which lasted for 21 years, while putin assures that it was not a war, and you are a war of the return and strengthening of the territory, for example, he as an example . he told about the history of st. petersburg. time was recognized by europe as swedish. putin said that russia constantly has to defend itself.

quote from ukraine 2014-2019, mr. klimkin. good evening. greetings. greetings. radio svoboda. thank you . this means that he is preparing for such a long war and he is already openly talking about it, he is not preparing. he has been ready for a long time. he invented historical myths for a long time and you are telling everyone that stoltz macron listened for 1.5-2 hours to this new picture of the world that putin he made it up for himself or he is still being framed in the russian clans there, he writes articles there. and as for this fight, he writes. on his return, putin will tell you that he did not return chukchi and kamchatka

, and that they still have there, that is, some historical arguments have been sucked out of their fingers for this. definitely will be found in other options there. in fact, there is none, and what he is ready to do, as he says, is to collect land. this is what he considers the only way to stabilize russia, otherwise, if it does not wage constant wars, and if it does not feel like a fortress, if it does not pretend to its enemies that it will fall apart this is very firmly in putin's head. well, he also said that in his opinion there are only sovereign countries and colonies even today and said that it does not matter what these colonies are called, if it is, try to analyze what it could mean and make predictions there what is the future of putin's behavior, don't you think that he just started talking more openly than he allowed himself to do before about the fact that he considers himself the head of such an empire and does not respect

the sovereignty of other countries, and if so, is the western leaders finally catching on? no, i don't. i think he used to speak completely openly, only someone did not understand and someone tried not to understand and tried to avoid it. he just kind of pushed away from the stroller. he spoke directly. he wrote articles. he didn't just talk, but remember him. speech for four hours in this in valdai, the same thing in absolutely direct text and the fact that everyone tried to avert their eyes, head, ears or something and for some reason tried to think that putin would not go for overt revanchism . let's go, let's go. and now something is coming to western heads, and

unfortunately something is not coming, because they believe that there is a need to agree on a new status of normality, because the previous normality is definitely not coming back, but they are afraid of russia so that they do not know what to do with it, and unfortunately, the understanding that you need to get out of the warm bath and protect yourself in the future is not fully understood, and there is still not fully understood that wealth, well-being , resources determine security, they do not determine it in the same way as the german east politics ost politicians are resources and dependence on kerosene for security is also real completely gave sorry, it is not known what oak or

something like that and the west is very, very gradually starting to understand it in some countries it is better in some countries it is worse for people by the way sometimes it is better than before politicians well, indeed, western leaders and western societies, despite the fact that they are trying to better understand what to expect from putin, they are also trying to support the euro-atlantic aspirations of ukraine, but the latest news shows that at least denmark and the netherlands oppose granting ukraine the status of a candidate for eu membership this was reported by the bloomberg publication, and the vice prime minister of ukraine for the return of euro-atlantic integration p. stefanishyna. she said that three countries, three countries oppose not two and two not not two, but three, but she didn't specify which ones, but i wanted to ask. and is it only about two or three countries? for example, we have heard statements from france and germany that ukraine is not ready to receive the status, maybe we need to come up with some other entity, are you right? much more

and there is no need to point the finger here, there is no need to make a disaster out of the fact that the candidate status will be accompanied by some conditions , because in many countries of the european union they hold their hearts when they understand what is needed to give the status of a candidate to a country that is at war, where it is also at war with russia, and there they mention the 13th and 14th year of the maidan, where did it start with the non-signing of the association agreement when putin rammed yanukovych? well, in addition, they don’t know what the european union will be like how will it work when the countries of the balkans ukraine are added to it, how will consensus decisions be made there, and how will they work when there will be much more like the european court you hear, will it work these are all questions

to which there is no answer yet the european union understands that in order to accept the western balkans and ukraine, it is necessary to change the fundamental treaties , it is necessary to understand how to get rid of the threat from russia, and they feel it. well, in the end, how to give impetus to ukraine for european changes, because they perfectly understand that we still need to go a long way in it is very important that they help us in this, so i would not count countries and point fingers, i would work systematically. strategy, we say that it is ours, there is a civilizational choice, is it our choice at all, as for the nations, it is only about the state, it is about the country, which includes its state and

the nation, so we will pass this way anyway, but bothering there, jumping at someone, pointing a finger, counting somewhere two countries, somewhere three we need the european union to understand that ukraine is actually a very, very valuable acquisition. i'm sorry for the cynicism, and it's primarily the people, they understood it , but they now understand that we are a mixture on the one hand of the weakness of our institutions and on the other hand er, the fantastic power of the people and so far they don't know what to do with us, so we have to tell them. i'm not joking. in particular, according to bloomberg denmark’s information, and in that diplomatic note, which

is at the disposal of bloomberg denmark, it indicates that ukraine is allegedly not ready, the criteria are recalculated , that the criteria are not met, and if , for example, we compare the same western countries the balkans, some of which currently have this candidate status, if you compare ukraine and these countries, is it true? do you think ukraine is not ready and does not meet these criteria? if you want, i answered and worked with the eu for more than 20 years, you from the visa-free association agreement and the eastern partnership once made karl sikorsky a pain there in the eighth year. romania at the moment when they got a european perspective and it can be simply shown if you draw a sheet there and check the boxes, but

this is a political decision and there is no point in saying how many percent of what we have fulfilled some plans of the association agreement, this decision is political and we have to achieve this decision and now is a unique moment when people in many european countries are inspired by ukrainians, sympathize, understand what it is, well, it is unique when you people are afraid not just for themselves, but for their freedom, for their dignity. this is how we are understood by many and this moment must be used, it will not last indefinitely, but i am absolutely sure that we will use it and i am telling you without any slogans. it is politically correct to send such a signal to putin, see so we are taking ukraine into our own family, we are giving it the status of a candidate, and

on the contrary, they are afraid of showing putin. partly they think to connect it with other things, i will remind you only one simplest example - this is the italian plan well, okay, the so-called plan, let's put it in quotation marks, it's actually not really a plan, just a little, a little, damn, what about the bow, but do you remember it clearly says let's ukraine give up nato let's give it to the eu and let's give it all in a package as we wrote in italian in the ministry of foreign affairs and then on the one hand there will be candidate status but this is only the beginning as you remember as church said paraphrasing this is the beginning of the beginning and then more there will be conditions for the start of negotiations, then more and more and more and it will be a long and difficult path that we

have to go through, but go through it not just in order to get somewhere, remember alice in the country, as she said to the cheshire cat, but in order to become become stronger, become cooler, become real examples in the same european union, if we are ready to do it and i am sure that we are ready , then in fact, we have a great opportunity to convince the entire european union and not count the bureaucratic that we have ticked and not to point fingers at individual countries. i just saw a lot of documents from different countries. well , i will deliberately not voice any things there during the broadcast. yes, there are some caveats, but these caveats are semi-bureaucratic, and ultimately the decision is political , and here the bureaucracy is used to make the political decision softer on the contrary,

thank you very much for contacting us. it was pavlo klimkin , minister of foreign affairs of ukraine 2014-2019. radio svoboda recorded the story of a woman from mariupol. she and her sister found shelter in in the lviv region, while their men from the first days of the war defended mariupol, one of them died in the battles for the city, and the other is now in russian captivity. this story was written by galina tereshchuk from mariupol on march 23. before that, we were in the basement all the time. it was uh parents' house . and this is a private sector, but there was a kindergarten there, and then it was arranged under the house, so it was very good there, let's say, the basement will be very large, even people from other districts came to us. well, there were almost 70 people once and, of course, the child was a little scared, but she

was already used to the game, and i explained it there. that is, she even used to understand that it was not necessary to go outside, she told babah well, she did not want to go out, even when i wanted to take them in my arms and breathe a little. she watched to the sky and said babah and did not want to come in when there is no information at all, this is scary, there was nothing at all here, but on the 23rd of september, so i ran to catch the connection. and i ran out. i had already said goodbye to the child. well , because i didn't know if i would return and after almost 4 km i just caught a call from the house, because we were told that somewhere near azov is near the port, somewhere there you can make a call near a store, some crowd of people, we ran up to you and there, uh, caught a call and the first person to call from the dnipro and the first time they asked if they took kyiv in years, they took it because there were rumors that already kyiv-kharkiv is no longer ours

, my husband's relatives also called me and said that they were already coming for me, it was only possible to take me and the child, my sister stayed for now the moment is still with my mother there because the first thing was necessary to do this, to take me and the child out because i have a military husband, that is, there were rumors that there was a purge and so on, that is, it was very scary, let's say it like that. and we had a girl in the basement who was in her ninth month, and now she is already 1- she has to give birth in 2 days and already at that moment they said that the second hospital - it is on the 17th that she is no longer ours and there were battles and there was no way to get together alone and we persuaded this man to take her with us the husband had to refuse his mother, she stayed here and we took this girl

a man ran up to us twice. he came to our basement, which is a very sentimental moment. and at that moment, well, the meeting was short-lived, of course , because he was very worried, that is, he was at the other end of the city and he just came to find out if everything was fine with us and our last meeting was on march 12, he also came to us, but the first time was already on march 8, the second time was on the 12th. he was so confused, i remember he was like that. well, he was very sad in azov since the 14th year defends our city, that's why you know he's like that militant in his own right, that's why he was his and he was released in the 17th year, but in the 21st year he returned, we are the same age, he had his birthday on march 15th, but he died on march 16th i found out that way when i

was in the controlled territory because they didn't want to tell me. she already knows that dad is a cloud in the sky and that dad will watch over her when she came to us in the basement on march 12 and he said he would take a picture of me with a small one as a memory yes, we have such photos of ours protection, guardian angel for life, this is piers. when was this piers just made, and it is also the 19th year. russian oligarch mykhailo fridman wants to obtain ukrainian citizenship and re-register his main assets to ukraine and is even consulting on this issue with the ukrainian authorities oleksandr novikov, the head of the national security council, announced this. according to him, such a scenario is possible and beneficial for ukraine. will friedman, against

whom by the way, sanctions have been imposed in the eu, get a ukrainian passport? fesenka good evening good evening well, how about you in general this is the idea voiced by novikov, because at least to many it looks like an attempt by friedman to simply avoid sanctions, well , not only friedman has such a desire. it just manifests itself in different ways. abramovich as we know, i also want to avoid sanctions and that is why he took an active part in the negotiation process, in fact, in all these events there is well, especially in the topic of citizenship, friedman's desire to obtain ukrainian citizenship is i would say two news, one news is problematic and negative, it causes a discussion in ukraine, very sharp emotional discussions, many, many people do not like it, and for obvious reasons, and in my opinion, it is precisely because there is already a certain trend here, not in zora, but now, friedman, i do not include

others, others will arise characters who want to get ukrainian citizenship, we need the authorities and society to develop clear criteria to whom ukrainian citizenship can be granted in the current situation and on what grounds, this is very important, the principles and grounds are not only the norms of the law , they must also be followed, but this should be part of state policy, and here there must be agreement, a certain agreement, even if it is informal, but understanding between the position of the government and society, the good news is, what is it , you know, when people like friedman, well, nevzorov. he has been back for a long time. with the russian authorities, mr. friedman, when they want to get right now, during the fierce bloody battles in donbas, where russia is trying to advance, ukraine is

defending itself, and russia is saying a little more we will win, but he wants to get ukrainian citizenship that means he believes more in our victory and not in the russian one. and the fact that these people are people who, in principle , are, let's say, a significant part of the basis of the russian economy, they want to go over to the side of ukraine, there are certain economic benefits and political this is important, another thing, taking into account both the negative and the positive here, we need to find the optimal balance of interests, uh, we need to hold a discussion in society, i think, and put all the dots on it, and uh, how should we act in such a situation, here is my personal point of view, we should use such people and no matter how exemplary and friedman, by the way, friedman has a formal basis of ukrainian origin

, yes, yes, yes, he was born in lviv, formally according to our legislation, this can be a basis . there are long-standing ties with the kremlin, they did not influence the decision about the war, and they and i, in principle, did not have any anti-ukrainian positions . but nevertheless, he is a russian oligarch and there are definitely negatives here motives for him and in this sense, this is really a very difficult decision. i'm sorry, i just wanted to understand, but if it's really, well, here's fridman derybaska , for example, tinkova abramovich. so to speak, it is possible to get the ukrainian government can provide the ukrainian government can provide a ukrainian

passport if there is uh, how about when novikov says that it can be economically beneficial in ukraine, then why are there sanctions against russians at all oligarchs if well, it is possible, it may simply be ineffective and cannot actually stop the war, well , listen, so that there are no illusions, you said that sanctions should stop the war, it is an illusion , in fact, even after the 14th year, western politicians do not have such illusions there was, and any serious specialist will tell you that the international experience of the process testifies to any sanctions that were in modern history in the 20th century, in particular, none of these sanctions stopped the war, no goal was to stop the war, that is, after the 14th year they tried deterring russia from war at a certain time - it supposedly succeeded, but in the end it did not work, but these oligarchs simply cannot. even now,

the goal is not to stop the war. no, the situation there is not an oligarchic regime, everyone depends on putin, not unfortunately, putin is from the oligarchs, and sanctions will not destroy this russian economy . now it is not working 100%, but the results are already being observed polizenko i apologize, we just have unfortunately, there is little time, but i wanted to ask about another piece of news novikov novikov also reported that due to the war, the register of oligarchs in ukraine, we are already talking about ukrainian oligarchs, has lost its relevance, because allegedly the oligarchs have now lost their centers of influence, but after the war, they will probably return and i will ask you to be brief . literally in a minute .

for sure, novikov will decide on citizenship, and it is desirable that the ukrainian authorities decide this, taking into account the opinion of the public. thank you very much. we were contacted by political scientist volodymyr fesenko. they talked about oligarchs in ukraine and pro-russian oligarchs who want to obtain ukrainian citizenship. this will be the end of our broadcast. i encourage you to subscribe to radio svoboda on our social networks, we are on facebook, instagram , telegram and twitter. we also have two youtube channels, radio svoboda and radio svoboda of ukraine subscribe to both because there is different content, in particular, our topics on radio svoboda drew ukraine, you can see our stories . and please also like this video . that way, more people will be able to see it, comment on it. that's exactly how youtube algorithms work. set the bell

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