tv [untitled] June 10, 2022 9:30pm-10:01pm EEST
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the russian ruler with young specialists and many were struck by the fact that vladimir putin for the first time actually openly named the goals of his attack on ukraine , it is meant that when the russian ruler spoke about what peter was and reproached that he was coming to the lands of other nations, that he was occupying during the war with sweden, the lands that were inhabited by the hungarian peoples, and they blame us but we have such a fate, and here putin smiled condescendingly that he was collecting land and we are collecting land well, first of all, i want to say that no for me personally, there is no sensation in this statement of vladimir putin, because i have constantly emphasized that vladimir putin is engaged in collecting
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land in his head, at least, and all the other political statements he makes are related exclusively to an attempt to justify this land collection, let's go back to the era of peter and about which he speaks , the territory that the russian tsar seized to build his new capital, st. petersburg , was called at that time ingrim ireland, they really lived there, the finale of which under other conditions, if the russian the influence on this territory did not spread, the finns would simply have been part of a completely different civilization of countries, russian historians and
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politicians began to talk about slavic tribes then solely to justify this conquest, it was no big secret that petersburg was surrounded by finnish villages and even the imperial family bought the products of these finnish villages, the entire area around st. petersburg until 1938 bore finnish names, as soon as they began to be renamed in russian over time, if there were some slavic tribes. why didn't they leave behind any geographical names? i would like to ask , but no one has, because all russian history is stolen from other people's stories. and as we see,
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putin absolutely calmly adheres to this point of view that if something was captured you can then announce that it is captured by the common hungarian people, this was done repeatedly, and the last time was during the soviet-finnish wars in the 30s and 40s of the xx century, when finland lost even its territory where the ethnic presence of films was already it is absolutely obvious during the seizure of the city of vipuri by the soviet troops, now it is a city of choice in the leningrad region of the russian federation
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. practically the entire population of the city is 100%. moved from the occupied territory from the occupied city to the territory of finland twice, not a single inhabitant remained in the city of vyborkh. that is, where there was no one except finns, the same applies to karelia, more about this now. district, this territory was transferred by the soviet authorities to the then republic of karelia it was also called the karelia of the finnish ssr, but then they decided that it was dangerous to keep the city with its obvious finnish roots even in the soviet union republic, which had a reference to finland to the korean national heritage, because i think you have no doubt that in the elections, this karelia and the city were handed over from karl of the finnish
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soviet republic to russia, that is, the fate of such regions as crimea, which, after the eviction of the crimean tatars, was transformed into the crimean region within the russian federation, of course the tactics of the russians and now let's see if the same thing is happening in occupied kherson, as you understand it, it is also an absolutely obvious demonstration of the true intentions of the russian president vladimir putin . not a new program on lubyanka in the state security committee of the soviet union, then
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the federal security services of the russian federation on the need to return the territory of the lost the russian federation, as a result of the schedule of the soviet union, has been talked about since the beginning of the 90s by vladimir putin, as you know, part of this system , part of this vacation, they talked about it. it is even more certain that this option is supported by the majority of citizens of the russian federation. there can be a division between those who believe that the land should be returned politically. and for those who believe that the military is necessary anatoly chubais, the former head of the administration of the president of russia, the first vice-prime minister of the russian government, a high-ranking official and of putin's time, who has now left the borders of the russian federation and is obviously not going to return because he is not going to deal with the
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consequences of the war, was a supporter of the liberal empire of the liberal empire - this is the empire that does not focus its efforts precisely on the military capabilities of seizing foreign territories, but seizes these territories through political blackmail , bribery of the energy elite, various such tools that putin tried to use up to the moment when the kremlin decided that these tools would not work from ukraine and the only the real possibility of the return of the so-called lands of historical russia is a war, that is why there is no sensation, all this talk of pro-denazification, demilitarization, all this nonsense was always used exclusively to disguise vladimir putin's price measures, as i said in 2014, even in 2014, that putin has no desire to protect any of the people of donbas we
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do not need any donbas at all, that donbas is only a part of his plan, which is connected with the effort to return to russia the lands of today's ukrainian state as much as you better to all these conversations about the fact that the minsk agreements should have been implemented, the minsk agreements should not have been implemented, the minsk agreements were just an effective mechanism for stopping russian expansion from a legal point of view, because it precisely demonstrated moscow's reluctance to withdraw from the occupied territories and liquidate the so-called people's republics although this was absolutely clearly stated in the minsk agreements , you remember in the city in the years there were not even any people's republics, there were separate districts of the donetsk and luhansk regions, ordlo, if anyone
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i forgot. well, what prevented vladimir putin from recognizing the independence of the same people's republics whose liquidation he essentially signed on his own in 2014 during the minsk negotiations, because that's not what he's interested in. here we are getting closer to question and what's next. let's try to understand what the political plans are. then yesterday evening , quite interesting details of putin's personnel decisions in the occupied territories were made public. it turned out that these territories are currently being handled by one of of the veterans of the administration of the president of russia boris
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poport boris rapoport was the closest employee of the assistant to the president of the russian federation vladyslav surkov back in 2013-14 during the ukrainian maidan when the kremlin was deciding on the annexation of ukrainian lands and the creation of the so-called new russia, and the two officials had a division of duties vladyslav surkov was located in most of the crimea, she was in kyiv, of course, but the main bridgehead for sorkov's work was the crimea 40 constantly on video all over the territory of autonomy conducted a casting of persons who should lead crimea after its accession to the russian federation. as a result, he chose aksyonov after long conversations with various representatives of the traitors, and
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boris repoport worked in kharkiv, which was then supposed to become, according to the plan of the russian political leadership , either the alternative capital of ukraine or the center, well , people with whom he cooperated then, it is unlikely that he will tell you anything, the closest collaborator at that time, gennadiy kernes, who was supposed to perform this task, will not tell you anything, maybe he will tell you something now, we will to hope after the war mykhailo dobkin, of course, i would be happy to talk about all the details of this plan. the plan was quite simple, with the help of saboteurs who should be supported by the local population to create a new russia and then decide whether it will be an alternative ukraine or whether it will be some kind
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of quasi-state. will join the russian federation and with the capital in kharkiv, we know that nothing came of this plan, but do you remember 2014, odesa kharkiv, what happened in donbas , in principle, the boundaries of this pseudo-formation are clear determined in the so-called crimean speech of vladimir putin, that is, the speeches of the russian president at the meeting of the federal assembly of russia when decisions were made on the annexation of crimea and all these territories of eastern and southern ukraine are defined there as a gift of the bolsheviks to soviet ukraine, which must be taken away again, no news in this there are no political teachers of putin, the former mayor of st. petersburg , anatoly sobchak, said back in the early 90s
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that the union republics should leave the soviet union with what they had at the time of joining here you can invent anything you want from the point of view of the territorial ambitions of the russian federation, as you understand, then nothing like that happened with rapoport for various reasons, we will not analyze them so much now. 40 cossacks are now under the care of serhiy kiriyenko, who is responsible for russia's internal policy. that is why he is now there as a rapport, because kiriyenko performs these tasks, and we noticed that just yesterday all the leadership of the so-called donetsk people's republic
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are changing from local pansies to russian bandits, this is a prerequisite for the fact that the occupied territories of donetsk, luhansk, zaporizhzhia , kherson region will be united, as my russian colleagues believe, into a single federal district, he can become a permanent representative of the president of russia in this new federal district of russia. why does a hokkien woman go to mariupol, melitopol, kherson, this is what the political program is, at a minimum, go to the administrative borders of the donetsk, luhansk, kherson, zaporizhzhia regions, create this the new federal district of russia and continue to talk with the ukrainian leadership in the language of fait accompli vopros crimea is closed vopros
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donetska zakryt vopros luhanska zakryt vopos kherson zakryt vopros zaporozhye zakryt we continue to talk about the same thing about demilitarization , dedalification, neutral status, all such nonsense , only without these territories and under during these negotiations, why do we need them? we are preparing to seize new regions in the east and south of the country. we understand what will happen after the creation of this federal district. it should become a bridgehead for the capture, respectively, of kharkiv oblast, dnipropetrovsk oblast in the east, mykolaiv oblast in the south, and odesa oblast in the south, with access to the territory of
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transnistria, and the occupation of the republic of moldova with the help of this eternal key to its statehood, and there it is already possible to create the new southern federal district of the russian federation as part of the mykolayiv odesa oblasts of ukraine. transnistria and this territory of the republic of moldova, which is currently controlled by the legitimate government of mukashina, the border with romania is the next stage, well, the next stage - this is kharkiv from the dnipropetrovsk region, this is almost all of novorossiya, this is the war program for the next months or years, of course, i do not rule out attempts to repeat the attack on the north of ukraine, but it seems to me that now
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primarily with the aim of forcing the ukrainian leadership to accept such territorial losses to in the north, the matter will come only after the east and the south have been conquered. although, again, i may be wrong now because i attribute the plans of the russian general staff to them, i have not seen but i can tell you with absolute certainty that they are tied to them after the blitzkrieg plan failed and the plans can change every day, what can be opposed to this, well, realism first of all , realism first, all this can be stopped only by our heroic army, by the army, only by military means, by no political path there is no way to overcome this problem, we must remember this forever once again any negotiations that will be started
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will be for russia only a screen for the preparation of new attacks, no peace agreements with russia can be reached for the simple reason that russia does not perceive ukraine as a subject of international law, but perceives it as a number of russian regions that should be annexed to the mother state, two thirds, all hopes that vladimir putin will understand the consequences of his actions after all this talk about peter i are useless, he is absolutely not interested in the economic consequences, all the more so until russia can annually invest hundreds of millions of dollars in its budget from oil, now it receives, it seems, even more than before the attack
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to ukraine in connection with the rise in energy prices, putin can be sure that he maintains stability in moscow and will pay big money to security forces who will be able to disperse any uprising even if it starts. and this uprising does not look very likely for the simple reason that russians definitely understand that putin is doing the same as peter i. ukraine must use the reserves of the civilized world to win, the economic, financial, military struggle of ukraine with russia. civilized education that will help us with russia can continue for quite a long time but of course the main burden of this struggle will be
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borne by the ukrainian people, get ready for a long-term struggle, don't believe those who tell you that you can negotiate with putin putin can negotiate only on the russian-polish border whether russian-romanian or russian-hungarian , only where the russian flag will stand next to the polish-hungarian, putin will negotiate with someone, not with us, i am not sure, to be honest that there will be serious negotiations with the polish highlanders , because then the question will arise about the sphere of influence of this empire. but that is another story simply because i do not know whether putin is ready for an invasion on nato soil, i am not sure. this is how it all looks today, the question is whether it has influence leaving
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the post of prime minister of great britain hurts sajanson, an opponent of the european union and the initiator of alternative alliances on the movement of ukraine to nato and the eu, what consequences could this have for ukraine? i think that the desire is not in prime minister of great britain boris johnson or any other person from the ranks of conservatives who supports brexit, this is the policy of great britain after supporters of britain's exit from the european union won the referendum, take josen, just one of those politicians, the vast majority of people who are today in the leadership of the conservative party of great britain, they treat it exactly as it is possible to put it if the conservative party loses the parliamentary elections and some other political party comes to power the strength of the barista or there is a coalition but of the borists but of the barals, i don't know how it might look, the situation may change at the expense of a softer policy, but i
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did not lose support for brexit and exclusively for the position of boris jones. especially since brexit is connected precisely with the european union and in nato, great britain is an obvious supporter of the unity of the civilized world, these are completely different things, of course i too. many people with common sense would like great britain to be in the european union now, because then support of ukraine in the european union would be much greater than road accidents and on the one hand great britain could supply us with weapons and help implement sanctions on the other hand and the european union sanctions were tougher against russia and the position of the european union was tougher and the position of the european union regarding the application of ukraine was would be more obvious because great britain influenced it and
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had much more weight than, say, other countries that are currently supporting our candidacy, such as poland, but this is already a choice of the british norm vitaly, i ask you to express your opinion about the possibility of crimea being necessary to repeat the fate of the german students for the russians. as far as we know, the czech republic is still considered a necessary and correct decision. the czechs can consider any decision that was made in the wrong way after the second world war to be a necessary and correct decision, but i do not i understand very well why ukrainians who were evicted from their lands during the vistula operation can agree with the fact that people are expelled from their native homes for military reasons these actions were not accompanied by what happened in europe after the second world war was a tragedy for many peoples, including students, and i
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think it is precisely as a tragedy that people who in the 21st century adhere to such an approach to ethnic problems can be clearly characterized as people who do not have no historical honey, this is the same as what the russians do. as you can see, they are engaged in ethnic cleansing, so it was in the southern grid, so it was in abkhazia, where the majority of the georgian population or abkhazia was evicted. this the majority of the population, and probably the abkhazians, believe that this is still the right decision, which is supported by russia. well, let's take this position. this was the position of the serbs who drove the kosovars
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out of kosovo. that is why the operation took place. - this is a part of a civilized education that will live according to its rules. you must clearly understand your place in this ratio of efforts and opportunities and understand the boundaries of our sovereignty, well, that is, you can imagine a government that will deal with the expulsion of the population but knows for sure that such a government will not have the support of a civilized education that will quickly become easy prey for russia, so whoever wants to expel someone from crimea should not be surprised that they will later expel them from their native lands, clearing places here for a more loyal population another matter is the legal regime in the situation if crimea is returned to ukraine, first of all, i do not know when it will happen,
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i imagine that the ukrainian-russian conflict is a conflict for ten years and a huge number people who live in ukraine today will not even see the end of this conflict, and it is just a physical one when it comes to at least the territory that is legally attached to russia, but let's imagine that it will rather be people who will declare themselves as citizens of ukraine and who will believe that they were forcibly given russian citizenship have the full right to keep their ukrainian citizenship, whatever their political views, because a large number of ukrainians live and will live on the mainland of ukraine, millions of people who will be supporters of special relations with the russian federation. i don't understand why everyone doesn't understand this now that as soon as the war ends and there will be the first presidential parliamentary elections, we will have such an electoral shock that will force many people
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to give up hope for the normal development of the country for years to come. i always say no to these people. experience history, all changes must be fought for, but this is work for ten years, people do not always draw adequate conclusions from critical situations, society's reaction to a challenge may not always be the opposite of that the one and which the patriotic part of society, which has never been in the majority in ukraine, is waiting for, the struggle must be fought and where it will be too long, it is for ukrainian citizens, for russian citizens who live there, this is also a huge question, by the way, with this question, they will meet in cyprus someday when will deal with turkish cypriots and those residents of turkey
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who moved to cyprus almost turkish citizenship or persons will be able to stay in the territory of crimea but not have any ukrainian citizenship do not take no right in the election system and so on and so forth. i think most of these people who came to crimea after the occupation will return to russia, but those who want to stay will of course not have the right to have the same rights as citizens of ukraine have. you can only be citizens of another state this is also an absolutely obvious thing. well, of course, it will be necessary to do everything possible to resolve the issue of indigenous peoples, first of all, of the crimean tatar peace at the legal level, its participation in the management of crimea is also a completely separate topic, and again, i
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i don't understand why you single out russians in crimea. millions of ethnic russians live in ukraine. why should crimean russians with ukrainian passports discriminate against you and have any differences from russians who live in the rest of ukraine from ethnic russians? why do you want to divide a political nation according to ethnic norms ? i don't understand, ethnic russians live everywhere in ukraine, if you put the ethnic before the political, you get a civil conflict in ukraine, which is what our enemy is counting on. good day, right? do you think that countries such as france, germany, italy and hungary do not want ukraine to win and
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have their own interests in the event of a kremlin victory? no, they don't think so, they think it's a senseless chatter of people who now can't openly express their pro-russian sympathies and become anti-europeans. i advise these people to just shut up and to understand that ukraine has the only chance to survive to be in the union with france, germany, italy, other countries of the european union, ukraine has one choice or to become part of the european world, fight for it in nato and is to join or the ukrainian region will become part of the russian federation and the border of russia will pass along the borders of the modern ukrainian state ukraine has no other choice there is no buffer state it cannot be any anti-european state it cannot be ukraine ukrainians can be either europeans or russians the choice is ukrainian people and the second question is how the world would react, in particular the eu countries, if putin's blitzkrieg was successful
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