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greetings, dear viewers in the next hour we will analyze the most important trends of ukrainian and international politics, we understand that the amplitude of support for ukraine fluctuates and we we understand that sometimes this causes a pattern of concern and questions on the part of our society and friends of our country, at the same time we must understand that the west has never demonstrated such a unified position in supporting the state of an individual state that has suffered aggression, we are talking about russian aggression, of course, about this and about other things let's talk now with a prominent polish and european politician, former minister of defense of the republic of poland, former minister of foreign affairs of poland, former marshal, speaker of the polish diet, mr. radoslom sikorskyi good day, mr. marshal, and

to you. good day, dear gentlemen, i send you my sincere congratulations from the general headquarters of the european parliament in strasbourg, where, as i hope, in the future , our ukrainian colleagues will meet. we have the so-called seventh round that has not yet been carried out, that is, it is about sanctions against russia that have not yet been approved, but we see that russia is not reducing aggression against ukraine, how do you see the trajectory of deterring russia than we they really expected it, russia intends to take ukrainian territory in the future. but the russian capability turned out to be weaker than it was believed. and here in the west

there is a belief that ukraine has already won the war for independence and is now waging a war for the territory. the current discussion is focused on the conditions under which this war can end. and, unfortunately, some believe that it is possible to satisfy putin with some pieces of ukrainian territory instead. i believe that it is the opposite. if putin can sell aggression as a success, then use ukrainian territories as a place will regroup forces and attack again, so i believe that putin not only has to lose, but there is a way to make it clear that he lost, since such a freezing of the conflict would inevitably lead to an escalation in some time, we agree, but on the other hand,

we see that we do not have a full-scale embargo on oil, there is not yet many important things, of course we have serious military equipment, but our military tells us that it is not available in the amount they need, which means that the war can be long, and putin is counting on this for a war that is weighing down the ukrainian economy, and putin is playing the so -called long game. putin is playing the so-called long game again. that 's true, even the soldiers are like that. wars usually end not at the so-called tactical level, but at the economic level. yes, but let's remember that russia is currently the country that has suffered the largest sanctions in the world. and recent history, the west covered russia with much

greater sanctions than i was a supporter of this, i hoped and still hoped, i will tell you honestly, i thought that it was possible to stop at swift, but even that would be a problem. i did not expect that the west would freeze russian currency reserves are a very serious blow , because it means that these funds that putin collected for decades before the start of the war cannot be used. but he cannot import, he cannot import microcircuits and other spare parts, which means that it will be very difficult for russia to rebuild stocks of missiles or tanks or other military equipment. announced a ban on the transportation of oil by ships."

from exports, you traded in russian coal, oil, gas, and gas. there will be very serious consequences for western economies and societies, and this is in a situation reminiscent of ukraine

in the future, it transports russian gas for itself and for transit, you still receive calculations from gazprom, so this is a very difficult decision, also please remember that we do not want these sanctions to be so painful that western societies turn away from ukraine and support it in this there are also conflicts in humility, well, with gas and with mr. that means with you, that means that russia is possible and no one in the world expected that the united states would resort to sanctions of this level, as our mutual acquaintance from the united states said daniel fried, the sanctions will be very serious, this is about our conversation with him about a month before the next russian invasion of ukraine, but

no one could have thought that they would reach such a level, and apparently putin did not expect that his wife would fall so hard for him and that the russian economy would be under such a threat and in general will be deprived of development prospects as a whole, however, on the other hand, we can see that it is still holding the second moment is very important, perhaps for the first time in many years, russia is pursuing an aggressive policy and a war without allies, in fact without any allies . i can no longer remember such a thing. maybe it was in the 19th century. during the afghan aggression of the soviet union, was there at least the so-called warsaw bloc, a support bloc for the soviet union, involved? now russia is alone, and the cleansing itself is not finished because for example, the next kyiv would not have taken place if lukashenko had not provided his territory,

but i agree with russia and the angry one, although we remember if we count the population of those countries that were held there in relation to the resoruc of condemnation support for russia's aggression against ukraine, quantitatively, the majority lives in countries that abstained, this should worry us because it means that my wife wrote about that in her article bad people win that, unfortunately, democracy is not in its prime at this moment, on the contrary, autocrats help one one and, unfortunately, succeeding in returning to the economy. you are right, the relativity of the size of the year's economic decline is taken into account, it is estimated that the russian economy

will decrease by 10-15% this year ukrainian more estimates point to several tens of percent. i believe that the most important factor today is what the leaders of smaller countries who collaborate with putin do or say. and what the us congress passed billions of dollars. this is a tsunami of money, part of it will go to humanitarian aid and part to support the economy and about half for military support er i would er er in washington 48 hours ago in washington i spoke with several important persons there who are convinced that there will be a significant improvement in the position on the battlefield of ukraine in the coming weeks that deliveries are already on the way

those that have already arrived in ukraine not yet at the front or ongoing training but as soon as they get to the front in the next few weeks, then the park of advantages will shift to the side of ukraine indeed , but still our military is waiting for weapons for heavy weapons, we understand that this should solve everything, it is about the battlefield, on the other hand, we are very much counting on support and other things, that is, in the intelligence service, it is not only about the united states a also about our closest neighbors. that is, it is poland , lithuania, latvia, estonia. obviously, it is not so

close , but it is very friendly to us. and the weaknesses of the russians, the strategic advantage of ukraine in this war is russian corruption, i hope that putin himself did not know how weak his army was, and that russian soldiers, pilots, sailors most likely did not they want to die for his palace and yachts. and here is the point of difficulty in this war: persuading russian soldiers not to follow orders, to return home, so this war also has a political aspect. we want the russians to admit that this is really their war, it is in our

interests, in the interests of ukraine, what was believed to be putin's war, ukraine, the prospect of the so-called defense alliance between ukraine and great britain and the baltic countries, maybe poland would also enter there, what do you say about it? i don't know whether it is possible to create such a nato in nato or also such a union that would be partly in nato, partly no, we thought about it when i was the minister of foreign affairs , together with the minister of foreign affairs of the circumstances of russia's aggression against georgia, it is legally possible, of course, because poland is considered safe on the nato border and at the same time provides support to ukraine,

considering that they have other alliances than only nato ones, the union regarding korea, japan is hypothetical is the union in relation to israel or ivanovna only the united states have other possibilities, the truth is that i hear an interesting feedback that comes from very high circles in the west precisely that until putin attacked ukraine, the member of the european union was at risk because they were in the west because it gave putin a pretext, and maybe partly a reason for aggression, but now that he has carried out this aggression, it is paradoxical . the public opinion of the majority of nato countries is for

supporting ukraine but not for a war with russia in defense of ukraine. i am already afraid that we have to move within the parameters of the use of nuclear weapons that putin threatens. the threat is not very plausible, nor is it zero, i do not believe that putin dared to attack nato territories with nuclear weapons, except for rhetoric, at the moment i do not see any preparations, russia has several thousands of tactical warheads, they are stored in warehouses specifically prepared for this, and how we

as the union usually monitor 24 hours a day and when we see the transfer of nuclear warheads to units of any aviation artillery or missile units - it is mentally that russia is preparing for something similar as well as how it covers the night yes , it is not there at all, but there is nothing like that, what is more difficult is to convince putin that it would be too risky for him to issue such an order regarding ukraine, which is not a formal member nato and our ally. i have two arguments that i think putin should take into account. the use of tactical weapons takes place through a different

channel of decision than strategic weapons. to be a very quick reaction within a few minutes, for example, to an enemy first strike, instead , armed tactical, as the name itself is called, is used on the battlefield and is in orders of leaders of a significantly lower level , of course, with an order from the kremlin. i believe that if putin did give the order, this moment would be the greatest danger for him personally, since the russian generals would have to make a decision whether to be responsible for the genocide with all its consequences or to get rid of putin because do not evaluate

because there is no other option, it is impossible not to comply with orders and keep the position. and maybe life is also another argument, it has not yet appeared publicly, but which i consider to be justified as it is known that ukraine gave up its nuclear arsenal after the budapest memorandum was signed in 1994, today the russians and even some others say that it was not a guarantee, as they say , everyone then understood that ukraine would instead be an independent country within the borders established during

the time of the soviet union, russia undeniably , ukraine has violated this treaty and many times, ukraine did not have operational control over that arsenal. it also did not have the ability to keep it in a safe state. but since russia violated this budapest memorandum, i believe that we as a west had the right to present nuclear warheads to ukraine so that it could defend its independence, this is a very important moment to take advantage of the budapest memorandum in a proper way, this means in our favor and maybe there is still some chance since we understand what the kremlin is threatening, maybe not only by striking

ukraine with a tactical nuclear weapon, and perhaps we are talking about the so-called dirty bomb because the strengthening is possibly demonstrative of the old friendship between putin and the kremlin and the environment in the middle east in the east the neighbors are talking about representatives from various arab structures, a dirty bomb would not have given putin anything, that is, innocent people would have died, but putin would not have achieved either a political goal, or a military one, or any other, but obviously we must introduce him to uncertainty about our intentions so that he took this into account in his calculations of ukraine. what is the chance for change, that is, it is about the rebellion of the russian elites already in 400-44 that in 1944 in

germany something similar happened there not only because colonel von stauffenberg was so good evening. but he understood where he had led his country. it is about hitler's germany, and that is exactly why part of the german elite began to actively prepare for antat. how do you assess the readiness of the russian elites today for changes in their country? i was not a liberal in a german nationalist and believed that hitler was harming germany . i think that many russians today think this way about putin, only this is a very centralized system, a personal personal dictatorship, paradoxically, but more centralized than the soviet union, i will remind you once of the death of an old man

the soviet leadership, what is the threat from the side of beria, the generals were convened in the crimea, they voted for the removal of beria, he was arrested on the spot , that is, there was a group of people who could make a decision to remove the leader from power in the same way. when khrushchev ridiculed the soviet union with his solution to the cuban crisis, it was about placing nuclear weapons missiles in the cube theoretically sent him to retirement , that is, today putin is theoretically the president of russia elected by the fm demographically, so he can be removed from power by completely traditional methods you know, many roman emperors were convinced that the territorial guard was not in all situations loyal to mrs. marshal kutsar pavel. paul the first

was also destroyed, and his son tsar alexander nevertheless knew. but he washed his hands and began to wash. maybe we will see something similar, some activity on the part of patrushev and some other similar to him well, of course, these are russian affairs, a person should explain to our friends in western europe, who do not always know the history of russia as well as we do, that is, they believe that feeding putin with ukrainian lands is a road to some stabilization and some kind of relaxation, and you and i know that in russia, reforms took place only after lost wars, like after an iron in the crimean war , which operations in the russian-japanese war, i completely

agree with you, even in a certain sense. after the defeat in the first world war, but unfortunately, the kremlin seeks the destruction of ukraine as a sovereign state, where nazification means an attempt to destroy the ukrainian people with a trumpet, the destruction of the people is a ukrainian goal and something similar, we have already seen in the realities of the kyiv region in irpen bucha and so on really about the terrible reality of the russian plan, for example, when talking about the realities, what scenarios do you see in the next few months, i would assume that these war crimes that took place north of kyiv were rather the demoralization and arbitrariness of the militants, but what is politics is classification

, deportation, the introduction of destination currency traitors in the occupied territories and it is obvious in the territories and the picture and mariupol and mariupol but also kherson but also part of zaporizhzhia and so on here russia can no longer pretend that it is not this is not official policy why should it be used? we all know that putin has been speaking with brutal sincerity for a long time, he just tells us about it, it is enough to read his essay from july of last year or his speech at the beginning of the war or various texts. for example, the text that appeared in ria novosti when they already considered what

kyiv has taken is the intention of extermination, when it comes to the statehood and identity of ukraine, it means that they want to do to you what they did to the countries of central and eastern europe after the revolution or after the second world war liquidation of the elites, destruction of the culture of destruction and otherness, then management with a russified demographic population devoid of leaders, believes that this is their plan, but it has already failed, he tells you the rest. i think it is very strange that putin did not draw any conclusions from the 14th year, because in the fall of that time they already tried to do this with the help of those points. you remember that in

mykolaiv, in kharap and odesa, they wanted to take control on the same mistake, arguing that a supposedly russian- speaking ukrainian is a russian and wants to live under the leadership of putin but this is an absurd theory, please, um, try to tell an irishman that he is english and that ireland should be ruled by london again. continue. try to say something similar to americans who also speak english, because it is ultimately absurd. i believe that identification in ukraine today not only ethnic , linguistic, but also political. i have the impression that today's ukrainian is partly a civilizational choice for europe and against the autocrats of the ussr, socrates, in your

opinion, why did putin start another intervention it is about february 24, he was misinformed by intelligence or was it some kind of mental reaction on his part. why did he start all this? i believe that by 2011, he wanted to be on a converging trajectory with the west. this may confuse you, but let me remind you that putin was the first leader of russia i visited, for example, katyn when i was in moscow. i visited such a former nkvd camp where during stalin 's time orthodox priests were trained. the orthodox priests who now take care of this place begged me for putin to be a frequent guest there. but in about the 11th year, putin decided that the

west was trying to prevent him from holding the presidency again, and in the 14th year he decided that the west took ukraine away from him, as it were ukraine was ours, or was it possible for this to be taken from someone during the pandemic, he read some nonsense dugin or stalinist tsarist propaganda books, picked up an absolutely distorted history of russia itself, you know, in a certain sense, he follows the traditional path of russian tsars, many of whom started as modernizers and reformers, and ended as reactionaries, because it turned out that reforms in russia are too difficult and this is a defeat, modernization, but at the same time, testing

the system, and you know how it turns out, and this in the full sense is reassuring for us that a system based on coercion of lies or theft was ineffective, who could have thought the truth, the truth. glory to heroes on the espresso tv channel was praised by radoslav sikorsky, former minister of defense, former minister of foreign affairs of the republic of poland, and now a member of the european parliament .