and exceeds the russian army unfortunately for us now, although they have run out of high-precision missiles, that is, there are certain pluses, and there is a very big such a fat minus, as they say, because the artillery lacks ammunition, we are running out of ammunition . do not agree with this, the minister of defense always exaggerates and exaggerates the shortage and exaggerates when there is a counterattack they say that we have already run 150 million kilometers there and when they defend themselves they say that we are poor misfortunes we have nothing we will lose or or a a a but we heroically stand for that during the war, in general, men have well, you know men love this sentence, god yes always no it still needs to be doubled or tripled because i have a hard time imagining that in some part of the front there is a 10-fold advantage that such

resistance cannot be overcome, it means ukrainians, there is something, some kind of secret, some kind of secret weapon that exists, we have to exaggerate that we don’t have any weapons at all, let’s give them and the westerners give them to us, but somehow i read today that we will have them as early as october german anti-aircraft defense well, i don't have an expert. you program of security studies of the council of the foreign game, and what can your council conventionally speaking offer to ukraine as a guarantee of security?

and therefore similar first than a purely military concept and and let's start with the fact that cyber security is currently considered the fifth sphere and the introduction of hostilities if usually we talked about the four sea, air, land and space now already and ukrainian military doctrine and foreign recognize exactly this the second time when we talk about security, we talk about information security, which is very serious, about energy security, we also talk about issues of international cooperation, because exactly what you analyzed before i joined ether and the presence of allies and international partners, as far as we receive, we do not receive help from them, this also applies at the moment to ensuring the security and defense of the state, but here the army could fight and will not be

on the ground lobbying each partner in order to provide this very military assistance in that among others, experts are also needed for this, and because when only the state explains it to the state , and if whoever communicates with it, it is another state, but the foreign state always needs others public support and support at the media level, and we saw it very clearly during these three months that in this laziness of european countries, the attitude of governments to whether or not to provide aid to ukraine changed precisely after their population, their expert environment, their journalists began to ask these questions and to support all-round aid for ukraine, therefore, at the moment when we talk about the security and defense of the state, we are not only talking about the army, which plays a very big role here, no one will doubt it but we are talking about the whole society and in this case, how do you ensure information security very often when you provide the information that the

population needs in order not to create an information vacuum, and we, for our part, have the opportunity to advocate abroad, first of all, and with our visa holders from the media who are constantly contacting foreign ones just for us, that is, we are forming this information plan that is necessary for us, and we are also analyzing that and what are the needs in ukraine what are we doing and how to make it even more effective look here i made notes here and now i will read to you the world has different interests different countries different groups of countries and now we see that it is impossible to reach an ideal agreement in principle we can imagine such a world or such institutions for the world that will provide a countermeasure to the aggressor i even in this case, i am not thinking about russia, only tomorrow in africa and tomorrow

in asia, god forbid i have neighbors like us ukrainians, some aggressor will appear again and conditionally and people will start no, come on, there will be some kind of conditionality hungary yes, no, it's not the right time now, but some other one , no. let's help the united nations. well, there, someone will vote for someone, someone will vote against, someone will get some kind of russia, for betrayal of security, will again say that we are for aggression, we we do not want anything to do with the aggressor, that is how can the world exist ? well, we are hostages of such different opinions of different people of different countries. well, let's be honest, somehow we have existed in such conditions for more than a thousand years. those questions that you asked, we can find examples in in the middle ages and in modern times and in the 19th century, in the 20th century, there will always be a state that will question the existing world order, and a state that will turn out to be an unreliable partner, and

an ally that will lend a shoulder in the right situation, and an organization that will be somewhere effective somewhere ineffective and here, and really in the past not even thousands of years, but probably even before our era, i will find you a bunch of examples from ancient greece to the modern world. the question is, how do we react to it, how do we try to find the most optimal options and benefits for yourself in each specific institution, first of all, without setting excessive expectations, without asking, for example, why nato does not give us weapons, because nato simply does not have weapons, nato members have them, and accordingly, from nato member countries, we receive weapons from britain from lithuania from estonia from turkey, but just to set an example, and here our wrong expectations among the population very often come from the fact that we associate the un only with the security council, where

the russian federation really has the opportunity to do something block, but it is a crazy system where we have a bunch of other organizations that currently also provide assistance to ukraine, this is an organization like unicef that takes care of children during the war, and these organizations that take care of cultural heritage on the ground, which during the war also becomes under threat are those who help with water and humanitarian aid that is delivered to ukraine from just money that is currently distributed to displaced persons directly to food products that are delivered in the zone of the conflict, and here we take not only ukraine, as you said, but also africa and asia and any other territory where conflicts occur, each simply has its own challenges, and here it is necessary to understand from which organization from which country what is the best we can do to find those who think the same with by us regarding international law, because i always said that although there are rights, we are used to something like the

law of the codex, it is such a gentleman's agreement when someone has agreed to something and only on the agreement depends on how they will be implemented and to what extent these principles are for us not that they are not divisible and not inviolable, in this case, indeed, in the last 8 years, the russian federation has demonstrated how it is possible to ignore all these tools, but on the other hand, ukraine has also demonstrated how, even through legal, these complex mechanisms can be found justice and it happened from there, let's remember the stougol arbitration when we won these three and er billions, how russian assets were seized due to our lawsuits for crimea for staying there and so on. unfortunately in such situations as international conflicts, it does not always happen from one day to the next, very often justice and some kind of punishment is it, and sometimes even decades later, let's look at the

court cases after the second world war, the last ones were in germany and were literally a year or two ago ms. hanno wanted to ask you about military aid from germany, because recently the ukrainian authorities have made many claims to this country regarding the inhibition of heavy weapons supplies, everything that germany is providing now is light the weapons for which are directly mine. thank you, because we also need them. but the promised heavy weapons are still somehow delayed . however, as for the artillery, it should arrive at the end of june. the panthergaovitsa-2000 artillery systems are very important to us. we are very much looking forward to them. and the number is like 7 units, but there are self-propelled cheetah reporting systems, too. we are very much waiting for a lot of other things, which germany either promises or refuses at all. please tell me about the

108th day of the full-scale russian tournament federation on the territory of ukraine, what are the current arguments again? is this happening again? the same story that a german tank cannot cross the territory of russia and so on, are they afraid of that? are there any other arguments, because military experts sometimes talk about what is actually in the bundeswehr? this is not a very strong german army and they do not have as many reserves as we think. well, there are indeed several aspects that should be taken into account. the first is that today the moment and the position, but with conditional tightening, this position is essence of the chancellor's office and this is emphasized now by all the experts with whom we communicate because and when we talk with the deputies of the bundestag in independence from the political party, all three main parties support the provision of ukraine and even more at all recent meetings, this question was raised very seriously from the deputies to the government why is it not provided

, this also applies to journalists, and it also applies to experts, we are constantly monitoring and we see that dissatisfaction is already starting inside germany and we all show conditionally that this is purely a matter it is mr. scholtz and his advisers that there is a second question. this is really about the capabilities of germany, and here , unfortunately, we can state that we greatly exaggerated the possible forces of germany and found that especially what concerns the tanks, and almost half were incapacitated, that is, this scandal is unfortunately not finished, that is, they still have the consequences of this a-a in a certain way let's say that they are raking out and, accordingly, at first for them it was also at first political decisions, they were not ready to give , including because of the fear that they will used against russia, the second was when they realized that they had what they had, which is why all the conversations started that the government was ready to bury the producers but not hand over what they had because they

were not sure of the quality at all, that it would shoot speak frankly well, now it has begun and the third question to all this is that they are afraid that after handing over what works in general, what will they be left with and how much will the ukrainian military be able to work with this weapon, that is, how effective it will be for them, and here they are certain the ukrainian armed forces believe that for a certain number of certain systems there, we will need almost two months for training . the ukrainian military and that very often it is necessary to start just training even before a decision is formally made on the transfer, this happens with individual american systems according to such example well, in principle, because our soldiers, unlike many western european soldiers, receive a very good technical education, it is much easier for them to

learn new systems because they understand how they work and this is a different approach to military education. and sometimes we are hindered by the fact that we we know too much technical skills, we don't know enough about management skills among the military, but on the other hand, in such situations, this technical training is very useful because they can master this weapon much faster, mrs. ghana, you are insidious sowed my doubts about the need for ukraine to join nato, if the bundessphere is such a mess, then why don't we join that mess, you can get it from germany, because they had such an army and such a proven military power that we can take care of ourselves, let them we only have weapons, and we will figure out how to use them there, in principle, because we are

talking about the logistics system of communication and approach management, that is, germany is only one of 30. and it is really not the most powerful, but there are many others countries that are able and know how to fight and teach us enough. not bad for the last 8 years, by the way, thanks to the nato road fund that was allocated to ukraine since 2014, and we were able to show e-e logistics and the management and communication system and all military experts in a completely different way they said that this was what fundamentally distinguished the ukrainian army from the russian army, which did all this according to soviet standards in the first months of the war. and all these skills were paid for and taught by nato and thanks to our cooperation is known. well, secondly, when we talk about joining nato, we talk about collective security. look at finland and sweden. sweden was

neutral for 200 years. when on february 24, my swedish military friends asked how we can help. i half-jokingly said will join nato, they laughed and said, well, bad, we've been neutral for 200 years, it's unrealistic already in a month. we saw how the approaches have changed, and not because they were somehow afraid, because they understood that exactly a together with other countries, their security will be much more not only will it be better protected at a higher level, but it will be worth spending less on it, this is also a question because more and more within nato are talking about the so -called smart security. and this is when each country decides that the best thing is happening in it, that is why now spanish planes are protecting space above the baltic sea, and the french one is now in romania. and this is what nato membership can give us. ani hanno, finally , let's talk briefly about eu

membership . to it is closer to the european union and the appropriate decision will be made soon, and ursula fondolyan, the president of the european commission, arrived in kyiv today and they say that she will be the one who will tell the ukrainian authorities what quick decisions to make. now we have to make decisions to convince those countries that are against. it seems that france has not yet been decided. please tell me what such solutions can be. what do you see? well, indeed, the status of the candidate for ukraine for today is a very important moment for the idea of ​​the third on june 24, we are waiting for ourselves where this decision can be made, and here we will speak frankly about the technical work - this is what we did in may, when we filled out the official questionnaire, handed it over to the european commission for analysis from the signals that we see at the moment, there are no questions about it, that's all ok, because then everything is the same

after acquiring the status of a candidate, negotiations are opened and then we are already talking about a bunch of reforms in these two weeks of reforms, what special reforms can we not do in order to convince the last countries, therefore, at the moment, we are already talking about a political decision regarding the granting of candidate status, but politically here in each ukraine we have to work differently, and because some parts are purely not against the ukrainian candidate, but they are trying to negotiate the same for the balkan countries, which we have been following this path for a long time, and that is why now there is such a bargain between countries who defends whose interests more. negotiations that are not only because of the war. we would like to be in the eu and this is already the arguments of our diplomats and our government officials, who were just last week on a tour of the

european capitals of those countries that have doubts and explain to them that this is serious. let's say yes, the choice of ukraine or ukraine understands everything that it must do, that this is not the essence of a one-minute decision during a war that is purely anti-russian, and we hope that our e-partners will hear this, and somewhere we will speak frankly, we need to work with those parties that simply always were most of such skeptical sentiments, or even pro-russian sentiments, and er, to copy. well, let’s say somehow cut off and their influence on making the final decision, what europeans should be reminded that the revolution of dignity took place due to a change of course, after all, we were going to europe, that is why nebesna died a hundred in order for this course to remain a european integration course, we will then remind our friends from europe about this, mrs. hanna, you will appreciate it. thank you, one thing, you know what conclusions are drawn from the words of ms. hanna, we must finally exclude

germany is part of nato and included in ukraine, and there is no problem if it does not know how to fight, and we know how. well, i think that germany is holding our place there in nato. thank you. thank you very much for being ready to learn and cyber security moments rather, there was a good symbiosis and ukraine could teach nato and not only receive from nato. well , by the way, and let's put it this way, germany can also improve its own security in this case. we will help germany to us and then we will help them. politicians ukrainian prism was on the air, and now we

will talk about trade and industrial circumstances in ukrainian. i don't know or not, mykhaila. i would like to comment on what the lady said, something that they are really studying for the first time in 8 years, he studied in donbas as ukrainian fighters defend their state and how they use weapons and what new strategies are emerging. and now, for these 108 days, the attention of the whole world and all the big institutions there are focused on us. turned out to be not so powerful, not so strong , but it’s in our hands, but sometimes our defenders do the impossible, incredible things, having less manpower, having less weapons, so

now the whole world is really watching our real feat of the ukrainian people and the ukrainian army directly mykhailo neprian first vice - president of the chamber of commerce and industry of ukraine members of the ukrainian business council with us mykhailo good health thank you for finding time for us, i have for you right away well, i don't know, maybe it's hard i may not be asking a hard question, but in government circles or around government circles, there is already an understanding of how to change ukrainian legislation in order to allow small, medium, and large businesses like mine to raise the ukrainian economy faster. after the war, there are already 150 urgent laws about which all the

prime minister and the head of the specialized committees know and already know and they are already at a low start and are ready to say on the first day of peace that we accept 142 laws and the development of business is simply complete and we will catch up with poland in four years and america in 12. well, there is already such a thing or not. is there an understanding of this ? do you think that i am closer, as they say, to the person of the sovereign emperor and know more than you? yes, on your business card it is written that he is with the president of the trade and industry for the first time of the chamber of ukraine, a member of the ukrainian council of business there, mykola, i want to tell you first of all that the chamber of industry is not a state, non-governmental organization, so i think officials were officials in the past, and now we have a tangential relationship with officials we are in dialogue more often in dialogue. by the way,

we are having discussions about that, just answering your question, how to make sure that the month in ukraine flourishes, the work of their children is quite intensive, you know. i am glad for the restoration under the president. there are many discussions . quite normal and logical. because there are many discussions. i just want several groups about this. i listen to many participants, but this is exactly what you are talking about. somewhere, there is a conceptual definition of what the economy of ukraine should be. on the other hand, we did not suspend our dialogues for a single day, our main two such, so to speak, our visas, our partners - this is the head of the economic committee dmytro natalukh, and on matters of finance and budget this is danylo the hetmanship, we conduct consultations, discussions and proposals with them, literally in p on saturday, we had a working meeting with dmytro

nataluka, on the one hand, on the other hand, we gathered associations of food producers, because there are many problems about which the average buyer, for example, does not know, but he pays, you know, there is such a thing the paradox is that there are problems between manufacturers, there are problems between trade networks, and these are such problems that are solved at the working level, they are not hyped about them, they are not talked about, but this is against it later, it can be seen from the purchasing power in the quality of products from the range of products that an ordinary ukrainian comes with. well, plus it depends the fate of producers and the producers are again jobs, it is taxes, it is the economy of ukraine. so, the dialogues where the work is going and one level of the state, well, you should probably talk to yuli svyridynka or denys shmygal. i don't have such authority to speak and comment on their behalf. well, when the discussions are going on, they clearly reach my ears in such a way that i

hear various things, such as mr. danylo hetmantsev. he is more of a socialist. and when you and when i imagine a business conversation as a socialist, i know that they a common opinion will not be reached because the socialists, if at least in our soviet or post-soviet understanding, this is anti-business, the state will be the state, he thinks, sorry, it is to gather a pocket of the state from the soviet past, so hang it up labels are such a soviet tradition. although i was a komsomol member and thanks to the komsomol career , a boy from the village would sit on the school attached by the director . would say that he is a socialist, i would rather say that hetmantseva has certain views and many processes. you can

discuss with him, he agrees with something, disagrees with something, admits his mistakes. by the way, i do not support everything he proposes. i would say what does he have rather, although it is interesting, by the way, the trend in the world economy is going downhill, and this is the last forum in davos, if uh. look at the stream of dmitry natalukhi with yuriy drumanenko on his youtube channel, he talks about interesting trends in the world economy that are happening again now er, a return to more active intervention of the state in the role of the economy, then previously, we had adam smith about the invisible hand of the market that will regulate everything. he regulated the measures, including the situation that developed in the occupied territories and the provision of vegetables, but now the trend in the world has gone is that you know, like the principle of the pendulum, they said that we

are liberalizing as much as possible, we do not interfere anywhere, now it turns out that covid has shown that it is impossible without the intervention of the state, so what i wouldn't put myself so clearly, and hetmantseva, it would be much easier to say that he is a specialist, what can be taken from him, he is not a specialist, he is rather a supporter of this apparently more active intervention of the state in the economy is very controversial, we know that we discuss it from time to time, but we will not devote the entire broadcast to the financial one, after all, let's talk more about ukrainian business . to stand up now and not just give advice now because about 50% of businesses have suspended their work today, especially those that were connected to the war zone and those that simply cannot be physically done there, the situation is more or less

i understand, those who work, of course, whether we want it or not, it goes, you know, as a revaluation of values, so how important is it? how long will you survive ? in lviv, during the military operations, it is interesting that there were projects when people who moved there found themselves there than those who opened small businesses, who had compatriots from pryluk , when there were also military operations, they did relocation is also now produced there on the basis of the ladansky plant, where fire engines were produced. now it produces agricultural machinery . that is, you know that, to give a universal formula to everyone for everyone - this is eco. you are happy for everyone. it is one miraculous phrase for each specific case

, a decision is made separately, returning to the specifics, of course there are good chances for those who provide livelihoods, those who produce food are working normally, many programs that provide for the army and war, and as it turned out, we were contacted now and we are selecting a light industry enterprise because it turns out that uniforms were sewn in kharkiv, and the enterprise has problems, many seamstresses simply left because it was there where military actions were taking place, and now we are looking in other cities. well, i will not say where because they always scold me, they say they don't provoke me, so that god forbid, then it didn't happen, as they say, i didn't wince, yes, there are such questions, those who will deal with the vital activities of the front, the vital activities of the army, these can be the most diverse. well, the third point is export-oriented, taking into account the fact that there are currently the most favorable conditions for our exports

to the eu countries. and this is one of the most interesting markets of communication. read where it was taken. of course, it is export-oriented where there is an opportunity to look there because the business is the same as it was before the war . it will be after the war, we understand if it will be a different economy and a different business. of course, what was before the war will no longer happen . for us, it is time that at approximately 6:30 p.m. the interactive with nicholas begins in our place. you can ask your questions in the comments on this espre facebook page