grain because previously journalists and international journalists could only refer to their sources and the thing is that on the eve of this meeting between lavrov and the representatives of turkey, zelensky reacted to this because our president was asked how evil he is in the course of what this should be and does he also have a situation? why are you invited to this ? let's hear what i am, the president. blocking of ukrainian ports, i spoke with president erdoğan, it is important for us that we are ready to release grain, we are now breaking russia's information narrative that there is a shortage of food products through ukraine due to the fact that

we do not export, this is untrue, we need it to be safe a corridor of ships so that one or another fleet of one or another state will provide us with the export of this grain. that's all and here we talked with britain and historical turkey is now finding a format how to give them to us to give us there is such a guarantee. i think that is why they are meeting with the russians so that russia will give turkey a guarantee that nothing happened to their ships. you know what happened after the proliferation to the journalists. then the president summed up his words in simple words, actually, that the guarantee is the safety of this corridor. and this is not what else just like anti-ship weapons on our shores will protect both our shores and our ports and

actually then the ships that will deliver everything that is needed from our ports and already in this regard there is positive news from our colleague andriy tseprienka, i am quoting this. britain promises to supply ukraine with high-tech missiles to unblock kiev, according to data provided by the italians. thus, the british government hopes to resolve the situation with the export of ukrainian grain, that is, there is more. this is the international response to aa. this is the meeting between russia and turkey. for me , friends, frankly, in general, well, the format is unclear . what is the blocking of the sea, how is it, how is it that i am blocking ships, well, this sea does not belong to anyone, yes, it is not the territory of someone's country and for everyone can use the sea according to international laws and rules, which means that russia must unblock it. let's try to talk to andriy klymenko, the editor-in-chief of bleksinnews. andriy has a deep understanding

of the subject of the sea. question good evening, mr. andriy, greetings to everyone, please explain the fundamental fundamental understanding to us of what blocking of the sea is. yes, how does it happen? i already said that the sea is public access, er, well part of our planet. how does it happen physically? how is it? it's threats. it's the fear of going to ships. how did russia block the sea? well, by the way , minister lavrov and the rest of the russian leaders are silent on one fact that on the morning of february 24, the russian federation, according to the established procedure, released an international maritime warning that in connection with a special military operation it closes the area of ​​the black sea from the latitude

of the island changed to the coast of ukraine that military operations are being conducted there and if the russian federation, that is, such a maritime warning circle stallorna is received by all navigators and captains of all ships in the world. we go out, there is a safe corridor and everything else, it's all chatter, we need to cancel this notice about the closing of the district, how is it

ensured in the corners of this district, along its borders , there are warships that stop traffic of any non-military ship of any country, if it enters this zone with the coordinates indicated in the warning, that is, the ship stops, it means on the radio and on the loudspeaker that it must change its course immediately, because the zone here is closed due to military actions. all tell me, please, former us admiral james tauridis said that the black sea will become the third front for confrontations in a few weeks, how can you comment on this, what could be the further scenario of action, or could there be an escalation in the black sea.

i'm sure that stavridis, who is currently a very respected expert in the naval sphere, well, like all american military men, they are very intellectual people, and when they retire, they usually work in analytical centers. i'm sure that admiral stavridis has in mind, after all, the risks of the russian amphibious operation in the black sea. we see that they are strengthening the snake island, we see that they are probing, so to speak, various areas of defense not on the coast of ukraine. at the moment, this is an area located on the coast. well, behind the island of the snake immediately this is the coast there of the odesa region, there is bessarad and uh, this section m-m uh-uh, here uh-uh, where

the dnipro flows into the black sea and the dnipro-burg estuary, the dnipro element, then the buk estuary , uh, that means the kinburn spit, that is, the territory of the kherson region it is occupied, there are quite significant means of impression placed there, artillery is located opposite. one of our small naval bases is ochakov, and behind it there is a passage to southern bug in the direction of mykolaiv, that is, these are possible sites for ah ah attacks on ukraine from the sea as for what the president said and experts say, well, the provision must be understood as providing us with anti- ship missiles or harpoons or other er

means missiles of other countries manufactured there, british or some other it solves the problem only of the protection of our territorial waters - by and large why because, well, 150 km, yes, 150 km - it is from odessa to snake island, and the distance from odessa to the bosphorus is more than 500 km, and it is not by chance that yesterday's leak, what is russia organized through the izvestia newspaper, he was referring to that. well, it goes without saying that russian ships will be constantly inspecting this. i have been commenting on this topic for two months and i say, uh, freedom of navigation is impossible in war conditions, that is, we must stop the war at sea. we must take

the warships of the russian federation to their bases it is necessary to clear the variable island from the russians, only then is it possible eh freedom of navigation if you ask eh each other or the tv viewers whether it is possible to do it or is it possible to stop the eh war on eh in the southwest part of the black sea and it will continue in the donbas, yes, this is nonsense, we understand that they will be nothing there, mr. andriyu, and what is the number now in the grouping of the black sea fleet of the russian federation, how many ships are warships in the waters of the black sea well, this figure of each of the day changes because they cannot be in the sea all the time, er, it means

that today, from the fact that er, directly there constitutes the strike force for er, such er, amphibious operations, er, in russia, at the moment, er is in service there are 10 large amphibious ships in the black sea, that’s more than 2,000 paratroopers, two and a half together with equipment, they can take on board. in addition, they have two frigates and three missile corvettes in the black sea, that is, 5 missile ships with eight caliber missiles on each, i.e. 40, there are four submarines with four caliber missiles each , i.e. 16 in total, 56 missiles in a salvo that can be used along

the coast. time, well, there are other ships, er, but they are not there is a lot, and the main problem here is that we criticize turkey for what is there for what does it mean for the same thing that at this time they are calmly buying turkish entrepreneurs are buying stolen grain, not only crimea, but through crimea, zaporizhia, kherson and all of this goes, including not only to syrian or libyan ports, but also to turkish ports, but turkey did us one good thing, besides the bayraktars, on february 27, it closed the bosphorus straits for all warships of any country, and a huge group of russians in the mediterranean sea, including a dozen missile ships , including four from the black sea fleet, are stuck there, it does not let them into the black sea. these are

exactly the surface ships that russia really needs in order to clean up part of the coast before the amphibious landing because the situation, that is, in fact, when we asked europe, in particular , to close the sky to us at the beginning of the full-scale invasion, and we did not receive it, at least they wash turkey, they received a closed sea yes, it is absolutely true that russia is trying to solve this issue right now and negotiate with turkey to let the ships of the black sea fleet through, because i don't remember according to which rule or law there is, and she is obliged to let the country's ships through. which are located in the water area of ​​this sea, and it is possible that lavrov's visits to turkey are not public, but this package of negotiations may also be the case, i think that you have a completely valid opinion, well,

if you carefully look at the message today, for some reason, for some reason, the chavushok separately said that the turkey of the old man is receiving traveling conventions, he said at the press conference that the russian media ignored it, but this means by 200% that russia put the question of allowing turkey to return to its base in sevastopol for four two-armed ships and two missile submarines. this is indeed the 19th article of the montrio convention - it provides for it, but turkey uses the rest of the articles there is articles 20 and 21, which sum up what they say about it,

if turkey sees a danger for itself, it allows military ships of even the black sea countries to pass through the straits at its own discretion, that is, the water it uses, it understands that if they return again 4 missile submarines and two rocket surface ships uh so sote will give 16 plus plus eight 24 caliber missiles in a salvo and this can be used by russia to provide conditions for an amphibious operation on the black sea coast i'm sure i will say once again that such a topic was for victory today, but returning precisely to the issue of the blockade of ukrainian ports, uh, you know very well, you explained as clearly as possible what is happening, why international

ships do not enter there, but even now we are simulating the situation that tomorrow this message will be removed uh then the question of demining the sea arises, we have been hearing about it for the past three months. so, what is the general picture of demining the sea, because you know the precedents of demining seas on the planet yes, there are many, yes, among the latest figures, which indicate that only demining the baltic sea after the second world war took plus or minus 50 years, but what about the demining of the black sea? in fact, the situation there has, in my opinion, a somewhat different accent, the main problem there is that a few days ago, the international maritime

organization aimo published a report from which it appears that the ukrainian side, in order to protect its ports, sunk the fairways of ports, well, something sunk some old ships, some objects in order to prevent the possible passage of amphibious ships , and of course it is easy to sink, but to raise it is not so much, so to speak, so to speak, not so much, so to speak - the first is the world practice, in fact, during the second world war, when there is a convoy of commercial vessels from merchant ships in front of it, there are minesweepers on the sides , that is, on the traverses

. in this way, the er-er danger er-er decreases, so er-er they exchanged everything ukraine officially notified er-er in january of this year and even in december of this year a separate message because against the background of these large-scale exercises we were replacing certain sections of the coast and about these are official, the same maritime ones about danger messages with coordinates, they are on the map. we even published this, and of course, after february 24 or starting from february 24, we replaced up to 200 percent, of course, all the passages, er, all the fords to their ports, and it is absolutely correct an element of the security system of the

coastal defense system did it, that is, it is necessary, so, i say it again, it is easier than raising the objects that we were flooded on the farms, but now no one will do this. i am sure that eh the headquarters of the naval forces of ukraine competently told about this what it cannot be done and under what conditions it can be done well, let's take, for example, yes, the size was raised, cleared, demined, and russian warships went along these fairways. let's imagine that nearby there is a turkish frigate. so what he will do, he will shoot at the russian amphibious ship that will go to the port of chornomorsk because of the pyudenny point and never once will he warn him that he is not right, then

inform the authority of erdogan call putin putin seems to be in a bathhouse, the accent is gathering somewhere yes and then he will say oh, i'm nothing i don't know. meanwhile, the amphibious operation will begin and it will already be in full swing, that is, that's what the question is. the security of the alliance can be ensured by the renewal of exports and the work of ukrainian ports. we can imagine what, for example, britain and the united states say. we are ready to contribute to this. what is the algorithm for the implementation of this project, that is, first turkey must give permission for the passage of their ships. yes, we must clear the water area of ​​mines well, judging by your conversation on the er story beforehand, these are very complex, complex elements of re-realization

. first of all, various joint naval operations have been taking place for decades, including now and uh, there are naval operations of nato, there is even a military naval operation of the european union, and all this was connected with protection against piracy, that is, experience in this there are soldiers and sailors who know how to do it. for many decades, there has been a permanent mine of the natural grouping of nato in the mediterranean sea, which consists of eight natural ships on rotation from different countries and which is intended for

in order to demine such areas of the seas are problematic. they exist for this purpose, but even after the first rammstein, no one said anything except the turkish minister of defense, who is already in the fields of this. how do we say it there? allies of ukraine, he said that turkey does not want to support the american proposal to create an operational group in the black sea , from which we can conclude that the americans made such a proposal. turkey said no. as for the british, it was even more interesting after as a respectable, really great friend of ukraine, the minister of foreign affairs of britain said

that you mentioned that britain is ready and was asked the next day if the british military had entered the black sea, she said no. that is, this is an operation. so far , it looks like just such attempts to to probe the diplomatic sub-groups for the basis for some other option, yes, or just simply in order not to be accused that you did not try to do anything, rather the second, and well, for russia, this is an excuse to say that we are yours, we are nothing do what you want. ukraine has taken hostages and these sailors are 78 merchant ships and does not want to do anything because of it. the

food crisis and what putin said. we will give the number market only sanctions from us to change that and-and that means the whole vote and actually make a counter-blockade of the ports in the occupied territories, well for this we have to unblock our ports and have a fleet that would have the opportunity eh we still let's get back to me topics of the black sea, we will talk fatally about zmiiny island in particular, and i will leave it. it seems as if we are not very well-deserved bypassing the issue of the sea of ​​azov, mr. andriyovych. can you please explain and what is actually happening in the sea of ​​azov ? in principle, russian warships are also present in the sea of ​​azov, everything is absolutely clear, it was blocked on february 24 for everyone, including for russian

trade days, but for russian trade days ships, well, this ban was uh, for a week, and they are walking as they walked er, russia is going through the sea of ​​azov as i went. well, maybe they escorted there with warships er, so they escorted there just in case, especially when hostilities were going on in mariupol, in berdyansk, there are no merchant ships, er, they pushed them out of there on 15 march for in order to er there were five of them and there were 10 er there were only 10 and

there were five er ships of the technological quota who were doing deepening work on the farmator why because they used the port of berdyansk as a logistics hub for transferring troops in the direction zaporizhzhia mariupol eh means and eh currently nothing is happening there except for military transports port of mariupol 6 eh foreign commercial ships are currently eh only one of them belongs to a ukrainian company at least one of them there eh received a projectile hit there was a fire severe damage, but the rest is there in turkey . including there, there is the bottom of the turkish operator erdoğan is trying to calmly agree that

this means that this is the ship of the turkish company, and they released the rest, but nothing like that it is not happening yet, that is, i think that the main reason is that there are no crews there, because at the beginning of the siege of mariupol, the ukrainian side tried to do everything possible to evacuate foreign sailors from mariupol, well , look, there are safer places. stolen, in particular, as you stated at the beginning of the grain that is bought in turkey, by the way , this confirmed the words of the ambassador of ukraine in turkey that such facts as turkish companies buy stolen ukrainian grain, but the peculiarity of even mariupol is that it is metal, and we have already seen these shots how are the russian propagandists reporting that they are already

threatening something on the boats, eh, we seem to see that it is possible to steal something and take something out. can you please explain, just for us all, for the audience, and how the russians will then legalize all this because it's just that it's ukrainian, or how can it be sold somewhere? thank you very much for the question . the fact is that they have a huge experience of 8 years of occupation of crimea. they exported crimean grain under sanctions. well, there were two streams. one stream is i went to syria and there were no problems there,

it was under sanctions. got to greece in in the first years, until my colleagues and i raised a loud voice, we did not raise our voice on this matter, so this is how it is done. the kerch strait has a floreid advantage , and there it is overloaded on a large bulker that takes 50,000 t of grain there, it can take and mix with soft grain on the same beam brought from the volga from the don of the saratov province with a conditional and it continues to world markets having a certificate that it is russian grain from the

saratov region. that's all. it's just a change of documents. thank you, mr. andriy. it was a very, very interesting conversation. it was meaningful and we learned a lot, a lot of new things. i think that their viewers are talking about how russia is implementing its plans about the blockades of the ukrainian black sea, the editor-in- chief of black se news, andriy klymenko, was in touch with us. well, let's take up the economic topic and the work of the ports, and add andriy stavnitzer, co-owner and seaport of tis, to our broadcast. a person who knows exactly how the economy of the seas works and how the blockade on ukrainian ports affected ukrainian business and how the logistics were destroyed in general hm seas at the beginning of this war good evening, mr. andriy, andriy klymenko and i have touched on the topic a little that the russians sell

ukrainian grain to rob the country but we wanted to talk with you more deeply about the impact of the war on the economy of the sea and in general that you would tell us how the sea works and its importance in the black sea in the world logistics chains well let's start with this, yes, no one ever even thought about what seemed to be a small inland black sea or will lead to well, that blocking it will lead to such a global world food crisis yes, which is looming, er, er, er, er, er, er, er, er, what value the black sea is for world logistics