these church structures have become confused and are trying to work in this way with the bridges of believers in different countries, and ukraine is here at the peak of events. thank you to lyudmila filipovychi, a religious scholar who joined our broadcasts. in this studio, we will talk about the situation with human rights in the temporarily occupied territories, we will also talk about military affairs, about the situation on the fronts, this is important, so stay with us, we let's come back in a moment, mariupol was an industrial center until recently, and it's just a wonderful city on the seashore. and now the city is a martyr, a city for which the heart of every ukrainian hurts, the russians wanted to capture mariupol 8 years ago, they destroyed the city, shelled peaceful neighborhoods, but all in vain, but how did

mariupol survive in 2014? in 2015, artem shevchenko's documentary mariupol, the city of the unconquered , june 13 at 10:30 p.m. on espresso. thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you . send a message to cool viber 099 214-640 and our presenters will announce everything right away, everything will be ukraine on the fourth of april concert rrt illegally turned off the digital air ukrainian independent tv channels

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try to find out what is known about the work of international investigative prosecutors and human rights defenders in the direction of recording the crimes of the russian army in ukraine and bringing russia to justice for these crimes in a timely manner. this commission was created under the council of e- of human affairs of the united nations, it is one of the agencies of the united nations, today, by the way, they are in kharkiv , and all yesterday and before that they met with human rights defenders who document war crimes in they visited bucha irpin in kyiv and saw a lot with their own eyes, including being able to communicate with local residents who stayed in these cities during the occupation. well, i will say right away that these are people representing different countries

. bosnia and herzegovina, you know this country. well, it has deep experience in the investigation of war crimes, so their expertise is actually very high and it is important for ukraine, because it would be critical for ukraine, after all, on the un fields to get the possibility of creating a separate tribunal regarding the aggression of the russian federation in relation to ukraine, and it would be, well, it would be more global, more extensive than those crimes that can be covered by the international criminal court, or the international criminal court can now work only with war crimes , crimes against humanity, genocide, and crimes of aggression on unfortunately, it does not fall under their jurisprudence, so communication with such a commission both human rights defenders and the general prosecutor's office and investigators who

conduct documentation and investigations on the ground crimes directly, including e works for this purpose after the removal from the position of human rights ombudsman and lyudmila denisova, the facts about russia's crimes in ukraine have stopped being articulated to the public in such a way and reach as regularly as before that it is known what you think about it first and second what is known about the terms of the appointment of a new authorized representative and the effect of removing denisov's. and actually about the existence of the crimes themselves, it is possible that the fact that no one is talking about them now means that there are fewer of them, or maybe there are none at all. no less, everything that happened directly even on the territory of the kyiv region , is it a thousand episodes, for example, our global initiative, the tribunal for putin has a base, and we

already have more than 8,000 episodes all over ukraine, a war crime, there are no fewer of them, not yet everyone even recorded a problem with the communication of the office or the ottoman. unfortunately, they recorded a lot of sexual crimes and mm. well, for example, human rights defenders could not verify whether such a number was really true sexual crimes are particularly specific. the fact is that in 2018, even for this, they received the nobel peace prize for the fight against the use of sexual crimes as a separate type of weapon in military conflicts . with such, with a large number of details regarding sexual crimes, it raises a very big wave of such an emotional reaction, including a problem

for the motivation of not only the entire society, but also, in particular, the armed forces of ukraine, who worry that they are not were able to protect these victims, in general, sexual crimes are a special category that will be opened even after the end of the war for fifty, maybe 20 years, because victims of sexual crimes in ukrainian society do not feel they have the opportunity to immediately receive rehabilitation, such support that would not affect their lives and that is why this is a very complex and fragile topic , and it is precisely in this way that it is mass covered, as it was done by the boatswain's office, the management of denisova posed a certain problem, oleksandr, but i am here after all, i apologize for the break, because i regularly follow the polish media. for example , i am subscribed to the election newspaper, it is a women's newspaper, and if

there was such a division called high heels, high heels, that's what they write, referring to the testimony of volunteers and psychologists who work with the victims of the sexual crimes of the russian army in ukraine. this is much more acute than what was published by denisov. why should the poles know about what the russian army is doing in ukraine , and we have no right to it? i don't understand this, no, no this is not true. it is very important that this is not a problem with the right to know about something. and the problems with the fact that this information also needs to be verified do not become one of the parties that simply inflames well, how is it correct to say that it simply inflames the emotional wave with which we we will not be able to cope with you, not a single soldier who is currently fighting in the armed forces will be able to solve the problem of sexual crime where it has already happened, firstly, secondly, unfortunately,

it does not help the victim. did it and it is logical, but unfortunately this system of ours is restless in order to help the victim after that and re-rating back about the society , it is simply not necessary to embroider obosmen at this moment in an illegal way, but to look for means for psychological rehabilitation, to involve specialists. let me, after all after all, you won't let me finish for the second time. i'm just adding additional layers to you that i would like to talk about, and we don't have much time. we have 6 minutes. i 'm trying to finish the sentence by saying that the procedure the release of turnisova from this law and there is no problem that we talked about, uh, with the coverage

of sexual crimes uh, it does not give an opportunity, and the law does not actually make it legal to get rid of an ambuquat in this way, but in our country it is possible. me too, well, just not yet i had the opportunity to add two words to your discussion, but i am actually listening to mrs. oleksandr with great interest. well, the islands were talking last week, it seems, also on this topic. correct communication and said that it was quite a fruitful conversation, denisova heard it and it was definitely not a reason for her dismissal, and in this case, if we all understand that this dismissal was uh, illegal, it weakened our positions, maybe the urs foundation of deryan came to us yesterday to explain to the authorities that they are friends, come to your senses a little, well, they won't take you anywhere right now. and that's how it might make sense to appeal to the authorities that our friends are

people who didn't like denisova, we are even more outraged that she was fired using our public appeals are just a pretext for a political decision, well, please turn back. how do you like it? it started out that this means that she also needs to be fired illegally, but the problem is in the procedure itself, and it is actually now creating a problem for our rating. and there are such ratings that evaluate within the framework of the un paris convention, the independence and effectiveness of such bodies as the ombudsman are evaluated. the fact is that in our country, under this government, under the previous government, unfortunately, this is directly the position does not have sufficient independence from political decisions. it must constantly criticize

the parliaments of the state. in this way, the state is kept from systematic violations of human rights. it must respond to the appeals of the people. here is a very long history. we appealed about the election procedure . we contacted ludmila denisova regarding the problem of her qualifications during the good day. we established cooperation with the office , helped her to qualify faster, well, actually , and with such appeals, she became the way she is necessary and now this release is a problem , including for uh and for this independent procedure, do human rights defenders apply like this, do human rights defenders apply if you saw this appeal regarding the situation with the statement of sexual crimes they concerned uh not only human rights defenders there were journalists and experts, psychologists, that is, this is a question of the possibility of interaction by parliamentarians instead of trying to interact

well, just cut live and even if the procedures were changed during denisova's term of office, this means that in this term she should complete the work before her mandate expires, and i think this is exactly what fundyulyan said, that such an institution should be independent, then it will work to keep the country from making mistakes in the field of human rights. well, i'm just i would like to add that i am personally concerned, first of all, that the commission to investigate the crimes of the russian federation in ukraine is coming today, the un commission. there to communicate about the verification of those facts that were made public during calls

to the mambudsman hotline. and now we have these facts at all, somehow it looks like there is no one to report to the public, we learn about these facts from the international media in your opinion, how do you harmonize all this now, because it is important for society to know the truth is extremely important, and we are actually fighting for these facts. you can find out these facts with the kind hotline that works quite well. these facts of the sportsman's office are usually frozen so that to create something new, because now there is no manager, but until now there are departments, for example, the department of children's rights and departments that work with other topics . the commission has been working in ukraine for more than a week, and before that they were

constantly communicating online with human rights initiatives that document war crimes, and i will repeat it again, there are actually more than 8,000 episodes that are registered in our database are more than a thousand open cases conducted by the general prosecutor's office together with various international investigative agencies, well, with such motives, even the osce found a form in which to come to ukraine. they have also been working for more than two weeks on the territory of ukraine, not in the form of a mission, but also to document a war crime because international structures bureaucratically do not work, but there are ferals who feel that what is happening in ukraine is important for the whole world, so before commenting on war crimes and the results of this documentation can be obtained from human rights defenders , and the situation with the replacement of seats should of course be resolved, the prosecutor's office should be changed. i think lyudmyla

denisova will go to court and there will be a decision regarding this procedure, and of course the parliament should no longer play with the independence of this institution . the executive director of the center for civil liberties was in touch with us right now, and we have the next addition immediately, and ivan stupak - a military expert of the ukrainian institute of the future in contact with us, who is also a consultant to the verkhovna rada committee on national security and defense, congratulations, mr. good day. i congratulate you. well, let's start with your assessment of what is happening at the front now. the troops are not successful in capturing the city, but the destroyed

second city remains alone and there, in principle, the distance to carry out an operational encirclement is 10 km, but the russians are preparing to attack sloviansk and siversk, how do you assess the situation on the front itself and what can these new and new points of potential offensive mean, in particular in the kharkiv region, about which world intelligence, in particular british intelligence, warns against the fact that russia is not able to achieve the goals set for itself, such as in severodonetsk, yes , you have large-scale questions well, let's try to tell, well, my personal opinion, i see that our troops in north donetsk are simply using their efforts to attack a large group of russians, and they are fighting for this city, and at the same time, our the troops in the south are advancing step-by-step closer to kherson, there were reports that

it seems 15 km remain in four directions , that is, if it is possible, not if and when it is possible to close this valve of the arrival of weapons and manpower from the crimea there, i am sure that the situation in the east is also significant changes to our side again , although it is really very hot in the east, they are throwing all their forces here and the kadyrovs have gone there. well, although they are filming there. those who are only on the outskirts of the city, further from the active hostilities, but at the same time time, i.e., numbers. well, there, well, it is very, very important to have a living family and equipment and so on, that is, the situation actually looks even in this short-term perspective quite good for the ukrainian football forces. only the general stamps the president of intelligence have information from what i see. that is, the more we

hide the power of the russians in the east, the faster. here we are attacking here we are defending well here we are chaining there we are moving i, well, i really believe in our troops who will be able to sell there in the south, squeeze the russians out of there and allow us to close this valve with the arrival of ammunition and people spiegel wrote about what they made a report there on the front line and wrote that they themselves witnessed what it is worth to such duels, which are now the main battles in the east , ukrainian artillerymen are the winners, however, we understand that very all the same, the ratio is not in our favor, and look at the ratio, well, the ratio is not ours at all , both in people and in equipment, and you have ammunition, eh. well, i already have a number of shells. really, the russians have this rubbish like a fool, only, well, there are

no questions. and what they have no motivation, and this is a very big thing in the modern war, even in the line that said that they won the war, and in the first part thanks to the motivation of the british, and secondly, russian equipment and efficiency are measured by the range of the flight and the area of ​​the territory there what are these shells they say well, here we are there hailstorms there are tornadoes we are there 60 hectares, they caravan there is 70 hectares they were driving, well, there are no questions. if the russian equipment is at a distance of 70 km, the range of the projectile plus or minus there is 170 m, that is, we understand 171 or there. that is, it is one number, the value of a, these european and american samples plus -4 m. that is, we

say that conditionally 1-2 projectiles and this is one hundred percent hitting the target, that is, this is what makes the strategy of the european, american, and russian fundamentally different . not recently, we know somewhere that there is a draft in russia . actually, 130,000 conscripts are selected , and there are plans to recruit as many of them as contract workers as possible. this is how i understand the russian command and send it immediately as cannon fodder to the east of ukraine. what do you think about this? how real is this threat? yes, there is a thunderstorm. well , without exaggeration, they are recruiting people. it is cooked due to propaganda there, many people have to go with banderas fascists no one has seen them, never, well, you have to fight, this is the first category, the

second category is money, they offer really big money. and the first e-e you say the contribution to the war for volunteers is 3.5 thousand dollars there for every day for every active for every day of active combat action $120. i.e., for snoring. it's just that cosmo has money there, well, it's just hanrilo henrie's person before they leave although many understand that i apologize for these funds, we are the funds, they will not see it in the first place. and secondly, they are paid in rubles, and the ruble is further and further detached from reality, and with this money there is already banally nothing to buy in russian stores, yes that first of all , they will be able to find people, but not in the amount that he announced, that is, we can see that we have already finished with this live meat. and secondly, what to

put them on? kalashnikov forward to say a come on, she is acting under the cover of someone. artillery technicians need to be taught something. we need to replace the dead russian tankers, and there is nothing else. we learned yesterday, literally, the ambassador of ukraine to germany, melnyk, announced that we will receive air defense from germany, the iris systems, which are capable . to protect an area the size of kyiv. and that they will enter ukraine in the near future in october, and actually this is a breakthrough because you can compare them with the german ones. i apologize to the american patriots that this is a system according to which ukrainian diplomacy has been working since the first days of the war. how do you assess the importance of this supply, and

secondly, will iris be able to protect our cities, because i am looking, for example, at the latest materials of defense express, which came out just an hour ago under the title no promises or how the german government does not deliver heavy weapons in ukraine, yes, despite the fact that the german government actually flaunts the german authorities that they are one of the first in the lists of the amount of what was provided to ukraine during this war, but the only thing that we really them saw these are grenade launchers. i don't know what principle this actual layout was based on. how many weapons did ukraine receive? but maybe it's actually about how many decisions were made and the implementation of decisions from the day . according to the promises to provide weapons in ukraine

, it is really in you, even such expressions have already appeared, macronit. that is, it is a lot of talking and uh , shocks, that is, you promise to fulfill it later when he and putin are constantly talking there, well, pidkova, but trying to save your face and so on. well, let's talk about weapons. i follow a strategy of not commenting on these weapons, promises to be made to ukraine, that is, when it already arrives in ukraine, then we can already communicate honestly, because there have already been many cases, we were promised so much. and that's all little and little, even the top was promised, and we are forever very satisfied, and there , with these spanish tanks, there was also a similar story there, a chip about what about the end user , that is, even if these tanks are german and they are in

spain will not be able to transfer them to ukraine without germany's consent, so i am asking you and all the viewers to wait until she has already moved. you can already say there to measure there in the maps there the distance there to the russian positions there to draw a picture there of how it will be to hit the russians because it is very strongly pumped information when he promised and then the job didn't work out the job did n't work out it's such an imbalance well, the question is in what quantity it will come so because of course of course of course because actually if talking about self-propelled installations from germany, which were also announced as an incredible decision about rivne, then they are all provided and they will arrive only at the end of june if seven pieces of these self-propelled art installations of 155 mm caliber under the name pz-2000 arrive, well, seven pieces - this is

actually enough for training yes, but it is not enough for a full-fledged repulse of an aggressor, what if we talk about what has really already happened, that the costel defense system grapple complex has arrived and is already defending ukraine with a fire range of up to 150 km this was reported in the ministry of defense . oleksiy reznikov actually spoke about the successful deployment, which as a matter of fact has already taken place this week , so let's analyze what kind of news this is for the enemy, how will they be allowed to change the balance of forces. look , when we do this, we will find out that it is not only she who is breaking down there . it is announced somewhere or is going, it means that it is already deployed, it is standing, it is already turned on, it is connected to the network, it is fully deployed to the maximum and it is already ready for the defense of ukraine, this is good news that we can

rely on a-and secondly, now there will be a big confrontation, well, with the russians in the plan why has no one ever tested this weaponry in real armed conflicts of today it is meant well, here is such an adversary as the russian federation, so don’t talk about me there, but it has weapons and technologies there are, even if they are there with foreign components, but this does not diminish their ability to remove, you see. how many objects have we had to evaluate russian equipment with russian missiles ? weapons can bypass russian air defense systems against defense ships and successfully hit these objects as soon as the flow of the first russian ship with the help of and this will be a signal for the europeans, they themselves are worried about how it will be used effectively, but we will see aha, that is, it will break through the russian defense

was done by the russians there, radio-electronic warfare is in progress and is breaking through. that is, we can work in this direction and then we can ask the europeans to give us more than just 150 km, let's go for another 300 km, and at the same time, do not apply and continue our own development in this direction, because i see that we have such missiles, there is a serious development of the same war. so far , everything has slowed down. ivanov, we have little time, only attempts to ask such a question i read it on the mirror of the week and agila rustam zade of azerbaijan, such a military expert, he is by the way what i remember in the first days of the war, he wrote in english even and even i translated it especially i still didn't like that she didn't know who it was but he was there wrote that everything is not it is clear that they will not take anything in kyiv and in general, they ukrainians fight like elon musk and they fight like marshal zhukov, that's why they lose and