tv [untitled] June 12, 2022 3:30pm-4:01pm EEST
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what do you feel, because i understand that you are not at the front , judging by the fact that there is nothing so dangerous behind you, but you have the feeling that the front has stopped, because for many weeks, well, at least two weeks, we see that russia cannot go any further, but ukraine too cannot go into a counteroffensive and many experts say that now there are such tactical battles and in fact the front is not moving, can you confirm this? good afternoon once again, mr. mykola. there is no side of russia. i was there this morning closer to the front. i was leaving for kramatorsk. i spoke with the military. what they said was that the war entered a different stage. it moved into a technological stage. when is the radio intercepted, when the radio
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is banned, when does this become the most important, when does the research on the part of the parlans, 10 are constantly coming and they must be shot down, because russia eventually learned to fight in a different way than ours and knew how to fight before that, they were more flexible, so the war starts in a slightly different way than it was before that it concerns the situation in druzhkivka, you see what i found out now. what in such a place where water is being distributed behind my back , of course, technical water is not even drinking water, but the humanitarian component in, friends, all of kramatorsk is extremely difficult. we have been here for more than two weeks . we don’t have gas, we do n’t have water supply, yesterday the powerful radio and electricity network was cut off and we were without power , that is, it’s absolutely interesting. yes, the light
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was restored yesterday evening, gradually it was restored almost everywhere except, well, except for populated areas which are directly adjacent to the front line a-a p mykola, here are things like pharmacies, shops, exit , entry, you can evacuate people, you can find some pills, you can buy some cookies there, i don't know bread, see, business quickly adapts to the realities that exist and this is very good are brought from the dnipro , we have established logistics with the dnipro from the dnipro , medicines and food and things and everything else that is needed, besides that, the humanitarian worker is unfortunately not the one, not in the amount that the population here needs now, because well, imagine if you see behind me back there is a machine that gives water, how much water can be collected there, 10 20 30 l. if you have a small
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child, you have to wash it there every day, what can you do? it’s obvious that there is not enough water. moreover, it is only technical drinking water. and there are queues, that's why we need baby hygiene, diapers, we need very, very much, especially those cities that are currently without water, some kostyantynivka druzhkivka and toretsk ugh, i'm turning to those volunteers who can provide such help to our cities, please we will we are very grateful to the center of ukraine and nowadays the country and everyone who generally takes care of the base now and prices have risen due to such a shortage of products and necessary various hygiene products without a doubt, well , these are the realities of war, these are the realities of business, you can’t do anything here, gasoline has become more expensive, logistics have changed absolutely, if it used to be from the kharkiv bas, then now from the dnipro bas, yes, the prices have doubled
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and 2.5 times for some food products, and finally, let me repeat again, mykola, i repeat that diapers, baby hygiene, druzhkivka, yes this is a critical need, please, volunteers . keep in mind that there are problems in druzhkivka, contact the content people, ask what they need and try to establish a contact in order to supply what is needed there, maybe from the dnipro, maybe from other cities and towns of ukraine . we know that there will be more people with disabilities in the coming days, tell us in what number, who exactly will be taken out, where to gather, maybe not everyone knew about this and where they plan to take them, as for evacuation, it is an extremely difficult question. i want to tell you frankly that more people return to our region, to our cities, because after
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leaving a month or two months ago, having spent somewhere er, in some apartments, feeling all the difficulties , the complexities of this life without, without things, without er, some usual absolutely deleted spoons i know what's there. what's around you? well, in ordinary life, you don't even notice. people have started to return here. i know a lot of families , that's why the evacuation itself . nothing prevents people from leaving dnipro, the only thing is that people see, uh, those people, they communicate with those who lived there and they return, that's the problem, the problem is that people are returning, not that they are being taken out, now the military administration gives the opportunity to leave well, of course, there are no people money, just live for a month, two, three, four, they will
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live here in lviv. excuse me, housing prices have to be paid very expensively, and few people understand, and even we know this problem in the western regions, especially when they do not want to settle immigrants sometimes. and so then there is this and that. i want to say that, unfortunately, this brand of donbass has a place in some regions and there is, well, not that negative. such a wary attitude towards people from donbass, that is, it will happen to you. all the problems are for you, everyone. our difficulties are the same for you, you must understand that the fourth month of the war is going on and everyone is frozen, er, everyone is frozen here, ordered on the front line, ordered those who accept, those who, that’s right there in lviv, in ivano-frankivsk, there in short, i don’t know the problem are social thank we want all i counted on you very much in druzhkivka of the city council, i
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would add that just yesterday i was told about a conversation on the street of people who are from mariupol and who saw everything, that is, i am different people. people who survived the horrors of mariupol, on which russia simply dropped a bomb and killed half of the children's neighbors. they are evacuating, not all of them come here, but some part and they say that because of azov, if there was no azov , we would have a great peaceful life in mariupol and there are also such people and so on, they saved people, they gave the last dry rations, in particular, there at the factory directly because of that, well, no, no, there will be no such thing , there is no such magical tumbler, where you click, they started
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to think differently, some part will start to think differently, some part will curse russia, although yesterday it praised and some part will say no no no it's the khokhlys and all this is because of nitrogen why didn't they leave russia there is a possibility well that's another question in short i'm talking about what to think that we can imagine such a country where 100% without exception people will say no we understood, now we understand who is the enemy, we understand who is not the enemy, this will not happen anyway, there will be five 10:15%, i hope, i hope that there will be no more who will still say that it should not be there, no matter what, they will say russia what is ukraine like if a russian soldier rapes me? i am convinced that there is a percentage of people who, show them in front of their eyes, they changed their clothes . azov changed into a russian uniform and raped
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a girl there, that is, there are no options. that i i see, i see why, for 79 years, the soviet authorities told that she was a bitch. but when was that, well, listen, in ukraine, all television has been television for 30 years, they created a wonderful television, where they sewed propaganda, and after 79 years, for another 22 years, they continue to hammer into the heads of these people , and they include beliefs, yes, look, that's it, everything is clear, that's why the difficult situation is difficult, we can only hope that these people become fewer and fewer, but it will not reach zero, well, it's impossible, probably anyway, you said, a certain percentage will be with us there is already the next speaker, ivan marchenko, an expert on security issues, because he is the armed forces of ukraine, ivan, glory to ukraine , congratulations to you heroes, glory to you, well, look, here we
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have some information, you are a fighter of the armed forces of ukraine express on security issues, which is very nice to have on attention, and then you have a question, i have a question for you, there is talk that russia did not abandon its original plans, despite the defeat in kharkiv oblast, kyiv oblast, and sumy oblast, and there are small successes in the south and in the east. by the way , that’s not all great but e what does it mean when the military command and the military-political command still continues to think in the categories of february 23 that we will seize everything now and everything will be ours. well, i sit and think. well, listen, what should be more evidence to make the russians understand that well,
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well, what does this mean? this means it is in favor of ukraine, well, if the enemy has any illusion, then it is always in favor of the opponent of this thief. let them think that they are strong, strong and can reach odessa. the truth this means admitting my complete defeat and failure to fulfill my plans anya on the first three days anya on the first week anya on the first 100 days even as we can see today already how many names of such cities, settlements small and large these plans must not be carried out. neither the tenth nor the 22nd is an independent mark, therefore they are not even called in that
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month until the 10th. is also called in this way. i understand that the russians are trying to once again present the illusion of their now so massive information to replace the reality that some conscious citizens of russia have the opportunity to see if they use not only consume the product that is made on tv, but also browse the internet from time to time or installed an e-e dish that allows you to watch satellite television and possibly access ukrainian channels, which most likely give them real information about the state of affairs in an elegant russian language and about their losses on the ukrainian fronts, uh, i think that this is the information policy that the russian leadership is currently using, and the actual russian
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one about putin and the establishment, it rather shows that they have not found another option to defeat their rhetoric, in principle, they don't have one and because of that, of course, he has to repeat that everything is fine with them, that in fact they planned to destroy more than 30 of their commanders there, they report every time that they achieved their goals as a result of one or another operations, as it was when they entered three and a half thousand kilometers, crossed the ukrainian borders in some places, the border between the occupied territory , as it happened in crimea or over the occupied donbas , and then they gave up more than a thousand of this km and rearranged it as a huge victory of the russian army . by way of these victories, yes. they initially said that what they did not take kyiv was their victory, they refused, now
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they will take the donetsk luhansk region and create the new russia of the black sea region next to them of course, it is not possible to create novorossia on the sea, well, let's take donetsk luhansk oblast, it is not possible to take donetsk luhansk oblast, let's take lysichanskyi to severodonetsk, for sure, by the one hundred hundredth day there, wreaths, as we can see, all these dreams remain blue dreams for them, they do not come true , and in the end, i i do not rule out that after a certain time, russia will say that it is a great victory that they finally returned to the bosom of ukraine the ancient ukrainian bathing lands inhabited by ukrainians there or slobozhanshchyna, which today are on the territory of the russian federation, but look, mr. ivan, we can speak carefully, i 'm trying to listen through the tree, here we need to put something wooden somewhere, because i broke it in mourning, knocking on it, that russia, because i see that the
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tactics and the strategy of the ukrainian armed forces of the ukrainian generalship is like this. i would call it the scythian shukhevich strategy. thousands of cuts, the results of which are simply exhausting the enemy. well, in the same way, oun-upav fought during the second world war, so russia has already exhausted itself to a certain extent on your tolga, from your point of view, we can say about some stabilization of the front in the sense of what we are all talking about now artillery duels, this means that the manpower from our side does not move or moves very limited, this means some stabilization of the front and a rethinking of further actions, er, some pause may occur. am i
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wrong or not? ivan, in fact, the ukrainian army which, like the russian one, is post-soviet , based mainly on soviet equipment, it differs to a large extent, and we actually have this parity now in the military struggle, the actual confrontation is not due to the number of weapons, which, as we can see, in russia, there are significantly more cartridges and of this post-soviet equipment. we are now ensuring parities and have established such a plot, as remar once wrote. on the western front without changes , so we have relatively unchanged for a long time. well, if we do not consider changes to be we consider the maneuverability of the war that ukraine is waging today to be invariable. we have neither the desire nor the inspiration to fight
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within the standards of the past war of the second world war or those wars that russia conducted trying to extinguish with its mass. it is clear that we value everyone soldier, and we appreciate, including the equipment we have here, we appreciate the effort of the ukrainian people, which is currently being carried out for our victory, and because of that, we cannot throw even equipment into the crucible of war, and never again, we say our soldiers instead russia, which sees enough of this cannon fodder and is ready to wage a war in the style of marshal zhukov when the soldiers are not pitied because the women are still offensive, then accordingly our maneuverable war usually consists of this tactic that you mentioned, it is characteristic was for the small eastern japanese and chinese opposition e-e movements of its time, pension movements
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. after that, of course, it was taken into service , including the military upa. as you rightly mentioned , absolutely and now we demonstrate that small but very maneuverable e-e units or groups of even 3-5 people are capable of inflicting using modern technologies using modern weapons, including unmanned aerial strike forces, including e-e corrective fire, high-precision artillery capable of making a huge impression on a mass gathering of russians like this it has been repeatedly demonstrated in the ukrainian reality that we can talk about er, belogorivka, we can also talk about chernobaivka and about hundreds of other plots, and we can see the remaining she really wanted to ask you about the hottest zone, after all, severodonetsk, we had access from there, but i wanted you to
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assess the situation from a professional point of view, your colleague oleg zhdanov, a military expert, writes that in fact over the last week the situation has improved for us, it is critical but not catastrophic, as if we should have left already from north donetsk, but thanks to the western weapons that we received with a longer range, we still hold positions, we can hold the defense there, what do you say, how has the last week changed, actually ukraine in north donetsk also has the opportunity military maneuver and includes, as you know , considered this military maneuver of the withdrawal maneuver, but we also understand that the current concentration of its troops, which the russian army has now carried out around north donetsk, allows our high-precision artillery, which is far from complete, but already to a certain extent, which allows to inflict fire impression eh on a deep eh on a good depth of up to 50-70 km
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allows us to be much more effective, which is why it is important to preserve this cluster and that is why we use the probability of leaving again but at the same time, we are holding the ukrainian armed forces are holding in severodonetsk, causing a greater impression of russian troops. thank you very much, ivan varchenko, an expert on the security of fighters for the armed forces of ukraine, and we are moving to mariupol. i think that we will now see dmytro zabavin, a deputy of the mariupol city council, if in if you can hear us and see us, then good health. glory to ukraine, listen, let's start with very simple questions, but maybe during the war they are quite difficult, so that people can imagine what mariupol is, how many inhabitants do you estimate now, how many people live now in mariupol, if we can call it life , what are the people there? unfortunately, the occupiers and
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collaborators say that there are about 200,000 people left in mariupol, but this is a lie, there are somewhere from 100 to 150,000 people left there. it is difficult to list because there is migration, but the city has been closed for the last week because there is a threat of an outbreak of infectious diseases and people there are really surviving and what they say there is russian occupation, this is genocide of the ukrainian people in the city of mariupol, mr. dmytro, well, look now we are sitting in june, and i am already thinking about october, despite the fact that mariupol is still a southern city and a sea city, there is also cold there, and i want to imagine that you say 150,100-150
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thousand people, but it is 150,000 people who you need to eat something, wash yourself, hygiene, uh, somehow cook this food, move somewhere, thanks to whether or not there is gasoline, you are talking about the possibility of six cholera or something, and we are all of them, the whole world knows about it now, are there such dangers in you the russians are discussing some plans or we are informing them we understand that half of these plans are lies, but they say that we will bring you gasoline there, it will be warm, there will be medicine in the pharmacies, there will be bread, maybe with water, is something like this being planned at all? cholera is caused by frost and so on and so on and so
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on. fortunately, i have the opportunity to communicate with the residents of mariupol who stayed there, and they give me true information about what is happening there. uh, there are some dirty mass media that life is getting better, that they will be given housing, that they will be given jobs, that the employment center is working, ah, in fact, this picture does not correspond to reality, and what is actually happening there, there is no victim to me, uh, yesterday i literally wrote uh- a woman about the fact that she simply has nowhere to go. her uh, they did it for your relatives, they bombed and she just ended up on the street uh, she is so old that she can no longer leave there 70 and actually, she
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just stayed on the street, her documents were burned they do not restore anything, there are no payments, they promise to pay no pensions at the end, now there are none, they only form some lists, well, that is, what is the population there, they see everything clearly, what is happening there and they say about it why is this picture russian? they want as many people as possible to return to the city. that 's why. because they feel that they are in such a difficult situation and that they can be drunk from there, so they want to form as much as possible . human shield to er if there is a counteroffensive to hide behind the civilian population and what is going on there instead of housing instead of the
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housing promised by the occupiers the occupiers have a russian krikovodr in their eh this pot was repainted a hundred times in mariupol it is very difficult for me unfortunately to say this because i remember how beautiful was this owl and now they have repainted it into a three-color russian and this is instead of providing housing to people instead of providing jobs and some social benefits they are giving out to people on the streets today this is such a bloody kraznik day of russia they are handing out the tricolors of this ribbon, these russian flags, which are so dirty that they can't even wash the floors of the restrooms because they are dirty, did you do something with them? now i
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will show you the clarity of these flags, which the russians are coming, what should be done with them, the ukrainians should burn them, it’s great there, don’t start a fire, i’m begging you, please, federation, but when they came and drank thousands of residents of the city of mariupol, residents of ukraine and hang their rags, it’s er, you know, cruiser moscow, they are probably i didn’t learn anything and let’s hope that this is the last day of russia in the form it is in, in the borders it is in now, what is happening. please tell me, mr. dmytro, with the bodies of the dead , do they continue to demolish all the
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high-rise buildings, residential areas and take it all to the dumpsters together with the bodies without disassembling the rubble, see. first, they disassembled the bodies, first the rubble, they took out the bodies of those who were killed among the people, then they realized that they simply could not physically bury so many people we saw all these fraternal trenches that they dug and piled there er and people er died killed by them and it was all er clearly visible on satellite images regarding what is happening there now, they are just spreading these rubble together with the dead. unfortunately, we will never know the number of dead in mariupol. we know for sure that their number has unfortunately reached more than 20,000
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. unfortunately, the number of civilians is even higher, but we will not know from this. it will be just disappeared missing people uh same thing we all heard about there drama theater, there were about 600 dead there, there were also other combo storages there, 12 schools, about which no one said anything at all, but, unfortunately, there were more than 200 people there when there was a direct hit by the russian aircraft on this school, that is, unfortunately, such facilities where such mass murders took place there are a lot of ukrainians in relation to the burial of people, and they continue to be in the courtyards of high-rise buildings, people who were buried at such a low height
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, and their bodies, of course, are developing, and why exactly can this cause such there is an epidemic crisis haha unsanitary or are there any other diseases, er, this is actually due to the fact that such an epidemic situation is happening and er, the occupiers are not doing anything about it, if there is an outbreak of cholera, they will just say that it is some kind of er, ukrainian biolaboratory well, they will find there is an excuse in such a format and what kind of people they don’t care about people at all, they only need the territory, we all see that russia communicates, they only care about expanding their borders, and people are for them cannon fodder thank you very much mr. dmytro dmytro funny, the deputy of the mariupol city council was
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in direct contact with us, i will remind our tv viewers that at 16:40 we will start an interactive session with mykola in september. you can ask your questions on our facebook page yes yes and the activity is high yes on youtube very high activity reports, we will also read out questions, so write there, of course, more comments of such impressions, some uh quarrels between russians, russian bots and ukrainians, so we will also be most interesting to voice on the air and comment on mariupol to things appeared information that the bodies of 220 defenders of mariupol are beginning to be identified in kyiv, there has been an exchange of the bodies of the dead between ukraine and russia, and 220 defenders of mariupol who were in custody have now been transferred to kyiv
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