such a place as the european union and the fact that they do not support ukraine and the fact that we have just a protest inside us and the issues of the solidarity of ukraine and the issues of the european union are specific - it reflects that what is in this means in the european the issues of the european union, the georgian government is simply a separate georgian people, and we have been in such a situation for the past few years, so for us there was absolutely no surprise in the statement of kuba, the hiddze, or the galbashvili. i think that the resolution itself is underlined. that they recognize the rights of the georgian people in the future to become members of the european union, and for us our aspirations to become members of the european union are very important to us. just like in the case of ukraine, when many people realized that the georgian people are the site of a separate government separately, this is an oligarchic government the european union clothes this for us, this is

very important, secondly, they will not reread all the important reforms, without which it is simply impossible to become a member of the european union, otherwise, because because this is simply the destruction of georgian democracy this is connected again to the position of ukraine, and in the third, for the first time at the official level, the european union is talking about the possibility of sanctioning the coalition and we did not talk. and that is why television is the most fair today - this is precisely the perspective of the georgian people, and by that i already say that there are russian oligarchs we need to get rid of it, we need to get rid of it, we need to protest from the inside, it is strange and about the help, the support of our friends, and of course we are working here, and on what to be sanctioned, ivan sent others businessmen on whom he leans and different judges a-a well, this is an

oligarchic pyramid system. a struggle that is definitely from which because of why are mykhailovitsa saakashvili and nobody in prison? paradise will be based on critical television. it comes to some kind of logic. we are going to die not because of the support of ukraine, but because of the inspection of the european perspective, you can explain this phenomenon, if you can say so, the official position is the official position of the government of georgia, and the people of georgia, and the opinions are different. well , again, in many directions. that's why. that's how it arose in that experts, some of whom we include

in the discussion of this topic uh , it's fair of european integration, explain why it turned out like that. and it turned out like that because uh, the gasoline ones ruined it, it's not just a bad politician or a bad bad ruler , it's actually wrong informally. and formally, he doesn't represent a person, but he, uh, is a protégé of russia, that is, we really do we have our own front, so to speak, the struggle with russia is just another form of occupation of georgia when putin, after the 2008 war, when he was unable to destroy our state, he began to work with the path of propaganda and such interference in the internal bodies of georgia and he simply put georgia to use the

protest that legally existed and put georgia simply to the ambassador of gasoline, and gasoline was not heard for all these years, and exactly the same as in other authoritarian states. about the request for some kind of european union, this is very similar to before yanukovych, it’s just that now it lasts longer, he was able to stick to it, the states won’t even represent that we don’t have a single institute that doesn’t work for him informal supports in business and the prosecutor's office of the judicial system he even managed to seize the elections because he has a bigger budget than us and slowly he was able to simply kill the police in georgia and the struggle never stopped against him, there was no year that we did not come out in hundreds that is, to the streets so that we are not arrested, so that we are not shot down, we do not stop but

fight against such a monster, which relies on russian support, both financially and in the right way, in terms of propaganda in other relations, of course, it was not so easy, and at the same time, i believe that the west underestimated its role, and we see that the war in ukraine made everyone think about how much they are doing in our region to strengthen democracy, especially in all countries where there is a western support in georgia it exactly exists in the people and in the opposition, therefore, i believe that you are changing the position of the west, which is based on the status quo, and also supports the already determined position. well, the position that it is impossible to preserve stability the russian oligarch and his support definitely creates the conditions for us to finally get rid of such an oligarch, listen . and we correctly understood that the leaders of the ruling party

in georgia saw behind this critical resolution a certain revenge of the europeans. did the ukrainians understand whether or not the right wing of the georgian party saw in this resolution an allegedly critical resolution and a kind of revenge for the fact that georgia does not want to join the general sanctions policy against russia federations, is that so and why, by the way, georgia, well , the georgian government, let’s go, and it doesn’t want to dream about the sanctions policy. because they are russian, it’s necessary to say it simply. eh eurosize, but really this oligarchic power is under the influence of russia, so here they would expect that they would join the sanctions,

or democracy would be engaged , or ukraine would be supported, it’s just illusions, so yes, they saw it and how uh, in principle, that uh, the founders of critical television were arrested in georgia right before the response from the european union. this is all accepted by you . they really don't want to be integrated into the european union, they don't want to carry out those reforms that are just eh a-a eh-eh just eh ask they will lose power a-and this eh-eh they simply won't have soil in georgia if they are provided with reforms which they need they don't want democracy, they just want to live in such a country, where the poor oligarch feels good. and we all people should simply

serve this person and the interests of russia. in ukraine, they knew that their position is not only not supporting sanctions, certain questions, do they help russia, and it circumvents sanctions, and in their relations, the statement regarding the ukrainian government, etc., etc. they understand that becoming a member of the european union is the same it is simply impossible to lead, that's why they made a bet on russia, but the problem here is that the georgian people do not gather for this, and we have a constant protest . the religious union also sees this difference. they see that we are not

going to die. the parties of euroservices are not just there to refuse georgia , but the position of the people 's position of the sniffer oligarch tarya stood out at the beginning of the large-scale russian invasion of our country . there are just as many russians in georgia and they also go there actively and how they are treated, because you know the export of russians and then the protection of the russian world. well, he did not disappear in the russian federation immediately after the beginning aggression, er, there was such an influx of russia into georgia every day, it was er, it was already one of the issues of the protest, and we demanded the introduction of certain regulations so that they would not have the

opportunity to simply create comfort after the comfort in russia after the sanctions, of course this government did not intend to do this and does not intend to do so, because even to be honest, if they had killed the visa, they probably would not have let the anti-butyanist into it, let the cynic in it, therefore even the visas will be in their hands it's wrong to work that's why ah but the main thing was the protest and the protest brought a result what kind of result is everywhere in all pharmacies in shops in cafes and restaurants and just on the street eh ah people themselves react to the smallest manifestation ah it's pro-russian or they just speak russian putin is passionate about it, and eh, or there are russian ships, and so on, and it’s so much, it’s just the atmosphere in georgia, and ukrainian flags, and badges, and songs, and so on. what is actually quite complicated

here, eh ? - uh, and this is not a country where they can uh they will leave ukraine or our occupation there, and yes, it would be desirable for our state to lead in a different way, but they all live again. we are proud of our history and we will definitely get rid of it. friends, let's turn to lithuania right now, and about support from this country, because it is absolutely unprecedented on a level with the other baltic countries and poland, including lithuania, that here lithuania has purchased six modern drones for ukraine, in the near future they will give four of them for super this was reported by public figure andrews tapis, the total cost of these six

drones is 990,000 euros, and as yuriy said, four drones will be delivered soon, the other two will be delivered in two months, it is worth reminding that the day before, there was a telephone conversation between the ministers of foreign affairs of non-ukraine, poland and lithuania, in particular growth, they discussed the problem of unblocking ukrainian food exports , that's all we'll talk about now with our next interlocutor, it happened alina and a member of the national security and defense committee of the lithuanian parliament, mrs. shakalin, our congratulations to you good morning er good morning let's focus on drones so and er the help that is still in the private nature outside the european union alone can and does provide prayer to our country today without details. of course , this information is closed, but again we are interested in

impulses. there are a lot of us. well, unfortunately, they are not satisfied with this track. after that i can just switch the house to the russian language eh mrs. shakalina ah our minister of defense and alexey reznikov he eh the day before confirmed that some countries they eh and somehow the supplies of weapons eh slow eh are going and well according to the amount of weapons the question is what is the reason for the track on the side of

lithuania . and we are trying to organize many more new things and of course we will not discuss the details now. and we are very happy because of this. and on account of the fact that in public, this is how you talked, 6 drones, 4 quickly, two more there later because, well, we just additionally collected almost 6 million euros in 3 days. what if people found out about it? so it's not only from lithuania, and some people from many other countries also added a little bit of

their personal e-mails, and it seems to me that this also shows that it's not necessary. they are going in several directions. in some western countries, of course, there are people who, well, i myself talked to some politicians from southern european countries the day before yesterday, who told me, do you know if our country is very far from ukraine? we still decide there how bad it will be for us if russia takes part of ukraine well, when i explained how russia always behaves systematically, that is, if something is given, it always moves forward calculate how many years it will reach them

and it will happen very quickly, and then she advised to see well, how does russia communicate, it communicates, it was yesterday that she sent a postcard to show them which russian honey you must have seen, she congratulated her on the day of russia and said that she conquered many countries in europe and now she continues to do it, she will do it well, this russian is funny to the people who, in the 60s, are throwing bombs at them - it's not very funny, but it seems to me that even where there are people, there are some er, maybe er, yes, here is the sitation, all the opinion is, yes, these doubts can be solved very easily, by the way , i want to say that uh, i came from kiev only in the evening the day before yesterday, and we were there with 16 colleagues from all different the countries of europe are lithuania,

germany, portugal, spain, italy, sweden, and we all together, they made an announcement just before the arrival of mrs. it's better than what's needed, because it's necessary to have a strange one on a bilateral level, they still do more , and in this sense, only a very clear announcement by the west that ukraine is part of europe can only stop russia's further plans. because, after all, russia's strategy is simple, that is, take everything it can, not what it

owns, but what it can, so in this sense, if ukraine is the largest country in europe, it will be united with russia, so for of my southern colleagues, it will be very quickly visible that the road to them is much shorter . i don't want to cancel the independence of lithuania. i think they are they can't anymore, because it's so great prince vladimir nods uh, well, how did uh establish moscow, uh, many years ago, and now, kiev, this mini , there's no more moscow, i don't know what they can do there, he 'll announce today they say well,

we can only talk about it, but these are cosmonauts, if at the political level, so this is a very good illustration, which i will present again, then i will talk with my colleagues this week. i am going to i will meet in 8 european countries of socialists who are er in er i'm telling us how it's all correct, um, in connection with this war in ukraine, uh, and it seems to me that this will be a good illustration for those who think that it is still necessary to uh, think about not provoking russia in this sense. well and idiot, it is already clear that lithuania cannot attack russia, we can express our opinion very clearly because we know

what it is like when you freed us, too, but in this sense, what russia is doing доме очень it clearly shows that this has nothing to do with their security - it is only connected with the imperial ones aggressive ambitions so that everything that we do that can be called eh osoroznoty or what can be called that we are eh hospitations how is this and the time actually yes in our country many

people aa on a good organ you know english yes well everything is like it clothing after the war will take more time, and the ukrainian language will still be somehow well, it will be better to learn it because in this situation , probably the main thing is that the weapons supplies are going, they are going, and here i am, too. about some things with your defense master discussed также with the leadership of your national defense council of the national defense council of the national security service of ukraine. even some things come faster and of course publicly but we

won't say it but i want the public to know that this is happening some things even happen faster and some fights are very fast within a week or a little more новая оружие it works that ukraine can protect itself, but our main geopolitical task now is the geopolitical task of all countries that understand what russia is like. well, how will the virus spread further? explain to our friends in america that there is no doubt. at the expense of providing you with a language well, that is, these long systems of any kind, like mars and so on, they must be provided much faster because this is only defense. that is, if someone thinks that it is impossible of this to do it so that ukraine does not attack russia, i

would see what the reaction would be if america were to shoot their neighbor and someone would say listen and let's be careful so as not to damage the systems of the neighbor who is killing our people. thank you, mrs. shakalina, for your position and members of the national security and defense committee of the lithuanian parliament pressed their knees for joining our broadcast. our next interlocutor is ihor petrenko, a political scientist. we are talking about security here. it is worth paying attention to the material of rbc-ukraine, for example, it reports the process with a reference to the session , so it is in particular about the fact that a huge threat is brewing here. because the world is waiting for a new round of the pursuit of nuclear weapons against the background of the war in ukraine

here it is written about nuclear arsenals, there are countries that possess these nuclear arsenals, there are those who may be hiding it, but in this world they are known in general, so you know the system of checks and balances, it no longer works, it no longer works after february 24, mine completely changed and it changed it the russian federation yes, it completely changed all the rules. do we understand correctly that there are no agreements, no facts, er, which would er, prohibit or not allow countries to one way or another build up their military nuclear potential, it is not working yet, now the world has plunged into chaos after the 24th, well, let's say thank you to the russian federation, yes, well, i think not quite so, in principle, everything is not quite as bad as , uh, i tell yuri here, the point is that regarding the restriction of certain arsenals, there are other factors , first of all, economic factors, because

increasing the number of nuclear munitions, respectively, and then maintaining them is very expensive, therefore, it is unlikely that the russian federation will somehow be the same now is very strongly included in this process, but first, in the current order, i want to say that this is not my own opinion, i relied on journalists from rbc-ukraine, and they refer to the e-e reputation of the stogol international institute for the study of peace problems, etc. they will write in particular about the fact that after 35 years, i am comfortably calming down, so to speak. again, a new round, that's all. agreed in principle that they exist, and again this is actually a question of such deterrence and isolation, because the very use of nuclear weapons carries with it, well, a huge

number of negative consequences, respectively, which will be weighed by the russian federation, well, we have a lot of people surrounding this, well, there is no discussion only accordingly we have it and in the same way in western researchers are discussing whether the russian federation will actually use nuclear weapons in ukraine, in particular whether they decide to release them there strategic weapons and so on, what will be the consequences, what will be the reaction of the west to this, well, as we can see so far, it is moving away from the top, let's say , there are other relevant questions in the discussion , but nevertheless, this is really a problem and in any case now we have such and such a point of further furcation when there are many processes and indeed such chaotic uh-uh is happening but uh-uh hmm i think that after the completion of a correspondingly free ukraine and in that when it should still come that real changes in the system are needed security well, maybe they will accept the proposal that it is from ukraine from our

president is to set up an attack on an effective platform united defoe so when we will have a club of responsible countries that will be ready to act within 24 hours well, let us give the necessary help to countries that have become objects of attack or aggression by the corresponding other countries or it will be a fundamental change of the existing institutions. they have already said that it is not a reform, but it will be possible through a multilateral agreement on the limitation of arms and so on. also see now russian the federation uses prohibited ammunition in the language of cluster munitions, respectively, and recently, again, there was also information from the equality of the international , e.e., shelling of kharkiv before that, we will have phosphorous shells, what was the reaction of the world community , condemned okay, they condemned everything well, hello, thank you, thank you, so why such a reaction it is like a weapon prohibited by will. anyway, this is how i lead to it because , again, punishment is punishment, again,

it is through international institutions, international courts, which will take quite a lot of time. well, then again it is necessary to find directly eh well, let's say such culprits who will be responsible for this and so on, eh , in my opinion, of course, there was a harsh reaction, they will be under sectional pressure, that is, any fact of the use of such weapons or any other actions were carried out immediately before a tough answer well, but again, there are many things that , let's say, that can interfere with this, in particular, the economic integration of cooperation and in ukraine, well , it's a deep onion right now , so we won't delve into that. but of course, what uh, all those things that are happening with us now, in particular, as a matter of why we started this with the increase of nuclear arsenals, the reason for this is that for a long time, i tried to do business with usual instead of adopting,

maybe painful there are solutions, yes. perhaps there are some that are not profitable, but those that would stop any destructive actions of any country, including, accordingly, the russian federation. unfortunately, we will now reach the bottom, so to speak, to the bottom in world security, and then try to it is already a little bit to push back and make new and more of its rules, taking into account the mistakes that have already been made or if we do not do it accordingly well then, uh, then you know, we will have very difficult answers, consequences that will apply not only to certain projects of ukraine or other weaker states and those states that now seem to feel safe, mr. petrenko. thank you for taking the time to come to our broadcast. political scientist ihor petrenko was in the direction of video communication.

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